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Jordan's article on closers got me thinking about one of my favorite topics, a proper World Cup of Baseball where MLB players would compete. In particular, his "2006 dream staff" caught my eye.

Jordan's dream staff amde me think of the current status of Canadian players. Who would be part of a Team Canada roster if a World Cup of Baseball were held this offseason? We'll assume everyone is healthy and ready to go, and try to settle on a lineup of some description.

Clearly, there are eight guys who were on opening-day rosters who would be favoured to make a 23-man roster - thirteen position players and ten pitchers. Those are Dempster, Reitsma, Quantrill, Cormier, and Gagne as pitchers, and Stairs, Walker, and Koskie in the field. Jeff Zimmerman would be a cinch if everyone were healthy.

Danny Klassen is probably the first-klass choice at one of the middle infield positions. Cody McKay would be a good choice as a catcher, but he'd get competition from Quebec youngster Maxim St.-Pierre who is in the Tigers organization. It would be very hard to say no to Justin Morneau as well. Stubby Clapp is doing well at AAA Richmond, and let's face it - he 's STUBBY FREAKIN' CLAPP! He must be included.

Ryan Radmanovich is playing in Mexico... I don't know how his stats translate, but he has been a part of previous teams and he can play the outfield, and so can Aaron Guiel, who is hitting very well (.302/.427/.440) at AAA Omaha. Todd Betts (in Japan with the Swallows) is a possibility at first base and pinch-hitter. Kevin Nicholson might be a good choice to back up in the middle infield... he doesn't hit much, but his best competition (Dave Detienne) doesn't hit much either... Braves farmhand Pete Orr is the other candidate, and probably could outhit either with one hand tied behind his back but his defense might not be as good, I don't know. Jason Bay is another outfielder who would be a useful piece and probably would the number one pinch hitter. Jeff Guiel probably isn't going to bring enough to the table yet.

An infield of Koskie, Klassen, Clapp, and Morneau might be the best bet, with Stairs in leftfield/DH (if the DH is used, put Guiel in left) and Walker in right, and Radmanovich in center and McKay, I guess, behind the plate. Betts, Guiel, St.-Pierre, Nicholson, and especially Bay would be a reasonable bench. I'd love to have Morneau back up at catcher and bring another bat, but it might make more sense to have two catchers.

Rich Harden would clearly be one of the four starters along with Dempster, Reitsma, and I guess Aaron Myette. The bullpen is the best feature with Cormier, Quantrill, Zimmerman and Gagne as a two-inning man at the end in close games. Steve Green would be a good choice to bring along as well (remember we're assuming perfect health), and he'd compete with Eric Cyr, Erik Bedard, Mike Myers, Jeff Francis, Mike Johnson, and even Vince Perkins for two slots.

Any other suggestions?
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_Mick - Tuesday, May 06 2003 @ 05:46 PM EDT (#61673) #
Here's a strategy question, not a suggestion about the Canadian roster, which along with the US roster would have the hell mercilessly beaten out of it by the Dominicans and probably the Puerto Ricans.

Let's say you're Team Canada. You're on an unbelieveable winning streak and Rich Harden has just no-hit Cuba in the semi-finals. Now you're faced with a decision. Who starts the Gold Medal game?

How about Paul Quantrill? Then after he goes three, Cormier, Zimmerman and Gagne each go two? Or at least, that'd be the plan going in, flexibility allowed if one is bombed or one tosses a couple of six-pitch innings.

I remember thinking this in 1990 when the Reds had injuries to the rotation. Why not start Tim Birtsas, and have him, Charlton, Dibble and Myers each go about two innings in a must-win game? Surely someone like LaRussa has thought of this before?
_Darryl - Tuesday, May 06 2003 @ 06:06 PM EDT (#61674) #
Gotta have Mike Myers of Tillsonburg, Ontario :)
Coach - Tuesday, May 06 2003 @ 06:15 PM EDT (#61675) #
Excellent list, Craig. I'd invite Adam Loewen to camp; you can't have enough good lefties in the pen.

It would be an upset if the U.S., Japan and the Dominican Republic didn't make the final four. The rest of the Caribbean countries would be tough, but Canada would at least have a chance against them. I find it interesting that all our dangerous hitters are left-handed; is this just a coincidence?

Mick, I like your "empty the bullpen" plan better than a starter on two days' rest. I agree that the D.R. would embarrass Canada, but why so down on Team U.S.A.? It would be a fantastic Gold Medal game -- Pedro vs. Randy.
_Mick - Tuesday, May 06 2003 @ 06:31 PM EDT (#61676) #
Coach, in the Dream Team scenario, true. I guess I'm being a realist, in a world where the 2004 USA Basketball starting center will be O'Neal ... Jermaine, not Shaquille.

I think that matchup might be Pedro vs. oh, say, a 41-year-old Roger Clemens one year into retirement, or maybe someone like Rick Reed, unhindered by the Players Union.

I would think the final four -- again, in Reality Land -- is Japan, Cuba, DR, PR.
Craig B - Tuesday, May 06 2003 @ 08:16 PM EDT (#61677) #
No, I'm convinced that in a torunament like the one I'm thinking of a great many of the American players would turn out to play for the U.S.A. If the players union are going to stick their noses in, then the tournament won't go on at all... we have a World Cup now, one that sucks exactly because it goes on during the season and MLB won't let the players go.

If the union doesn't let players go, PR and the DR aren't going to be any good either.

I'd pick the U.S. as the favorites. The Dominican have a good team, but Team U.S.A. are still the best choice. Here's a sample lineup:

LF Brian Giles
SS Alex Rodriguez
DH Barry Bonds
1B Jason Giambi (Todd Helton?)
C Mike Piazza
2B Jeff Kent
RF Shawn Green
3B Scott Rolen
CF Mike Cameron or Torii Hunter, I guess (Vernon Wells? :)

With a rotation of Randy Johnson, Barry Zito, Mike Mussina, and Curt Schilling. Or, a rotation of Greg Maddux, Tim Hudson, Roy Oswalt, and Kevin Millwood if you prefer. Or Mark Prior, Derek Lowe, Kerry Wood, and Kevin Brown. I could go on.

The U.S. isn't unbeatable, but they have a far stronger team than even the Dominican Republic.
_Mike H. - Tuesday, May 06 2003 @ 08:23 PM EDT (#61678) #
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I don't see why everyone thinks that Cuba would be such a lock over say the US. I guess it would be based on Cuba's showing in various tournaments in the past, but I would say that the US hasn't fielded either a Dream Team or, as Mick put it, a Reality Land team. I still think a US team filled with the Rick Reeds of the world or top minor leaguers would at least be in the top 4 in the world.

My friends and I have also been bouncing the idea around in general last summer (about the time of the World Cup). Subsequently I found two pages talking about the same thing.

This one's by Voros McCracken on the Baseball Primer site:

http://www.baseballprimer.com/articles/mccracken_2002-07-07_0.shtml

This one I found by Googling "world cup of baseball" It actually has prospective rosters for many different possible teams. The formatting's a bit screwy but you can get the right idea.

http://www.crystalball.jp/ewc.htm
_Jordan - Wednesday, May 07 2003 @ 11:26 AM EDT (#61679) #
Coincidentally, Jeff Blair at the Globe & Mail sounds off on the All-Star Game plan to give World Series home-field advantage to the winning All-Star side. Count me among those who think it's a stupid idea. If you want to make the All-Star Game actually matter, you'd better do away with that silly rule that says every team must be represented. As Blair says, why should a Tiger have a say in whether the Yankees get Game 7 at home?
Coach - Wednesday, May 07 2003 @ 01:30 PM EDT (#61680) #
As Richard Sandomir of The New York Times recently noted, every All-Star Game is bleeding viewers.

This has Fox footprints all over it.

If an undeserving Tiger or D-Ray affects the outcome of the exhibition game, Bud and his boys will be squirming in October. Typically, their "solution" to last summer's problem could make matters worse. Dmitri Young hit beyond the cycle last night; in the ninth inning of a tie game, already 4-for-4 against the Orioles, needing a double for the milestone, he legged one into his second triple of the game. Admirable, but I don't want Young determining where the seventh game of the World Series is played.
Craig B - Wednesday, May 07 2003 @ 10:22 PM EDT (#61681) #
Not that I don't want to jump on the knee-jerk criticism of MLB bandwagon - I love jumping on MLB - but WHY do we all care how home-field advantage in the World Series is considered? How is any particular system less arbitraty than any other one that has been used or proposed?

I just can't bring myself to care about this.
_M.P. Moffatt - Thursday, May 08 2003 @ 08:34 AM EDT (#61682) #
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Admirable, but I don't want Young determining where the seventh game of the World Series is played.

I think it'd be funny if Young won the game for the AL, then was traded to an NL contender at the deadline.

Personally I love the idea. It beats any of the other systems mentioned. It's a heck of a lot better than "Give it to the team with the best record", which most of the time is just "Give it to the team who had the easier schedule".

MP
_Normar - Saturday, May 29 2004 @ 02:59 AM EDT (#61683) #
"The U.S. isn't unbeatable, but they have a far stronger team than even the Dominican Republic"

I do not agree witt that....see this..

1b-Carlos peņa---Albert Pujols
2b-Alfonso Soriano
3b-Aramis Ramirez--(Alex Rodriguez..say's would like to play for the dominiocan republic for his parents)
ss-Miguel Tejada--Rafael Fulcar
DH-David Ortiz--Julio Franco
OF-Vladimir Guerrero--Sammy Sosa--Many Ramirez--Raul Mondesi--Moises Alou
Pichers-Pedro Martinez--Bartolo Colon--Juan Ortiz--Benoit--Odalis Perez--Armando Benites--Jose Mesa--Octavio Dotel

This dominican team is a looser......i do not thing so!!!!!
_Normar - Saturday, May 29 2004 @ 03:01 AM EDT (#61684) #
"The U.S. isn't unbeatable, but they have a far stronger team than even the Dominican Republic"

I do not agree witt that....see this..

1b-Carlos peņa---Albert Pujols
2b-Alfonso Soriano
3b-Aramis Ramirez--(Alex Rodriguez..say's would like to play for the dominiocan republic for his parents)
ss-Miguel Tejada--Rafael Fulcar
DH-David Ortiz--Julio Franco
OF-Vladimir Guerrero--Sammy Sosa--Many Ramirez--Raul Mondesi--Moises Alou
Pichers-Pedro Martinez--Bartolo Colon--Juan Ortiz--Benoit--Odalis Perez--Armando Benites--Jose Mesa--Octavio Dotel

This dominican team is a looser......i do not thing so!!!!!
_Normar - Saturday, May 29 2004 @ 03:02 AM EDT (#61685) #
"The U.S. isn't unbeatable, but they have a far stronger team than even the Dominican Republic"

I do not agree witt that....see this..

1b-Carlos peņa---Albert Pujols
2b-Alfonso Soriano
3b-Aramis Ramirez--(Alex Rodriguez..say's would like to play for the dominiocan republic for his parents)
ss-Miguel Tejada--Rafael Fulcar
DH-David Ortiz--Julio Franco
OF-Vladimir Guerrero--Sammy Sosa--Many Ramirez--Raul Mondesi--Moises Alou
Pichers-Pedro Martinez--Bartolo Colon--Juan Ortiz--Benoit--Odalis Perez--Armando Benites--Jose Mesa--Octavio Dotel

This dominican team is a looser......i do not thing so!!!!!
_Normar - Saturday, May 29 2004 @ 03:02 AM EDT (#61686) #
"The U.S. isn't unbeatable, but they have a far stronger team than even the Dominican Republic"

I do not agree witt that....see this..

1b-Carlos peņa---Albert Pujols
2b-Alfonso Soriano
3b-Aramis Ramirez--(Alex Rodriguez..say's would like to play for the dominiocan republic for his parents)
ss-Miguel Tejada--Rafael Fulcar
DH-David Ortiz--Julio Franco
OF-Vladimir Guerrero--Sammy Sosa--Many Ramirez--Raul Mondesi--Moises Alou
Pichers-Pedro Martinez--Bartolo Colon--Juan Ortiz--Benoit--Odalis Perez--Armando Benites--Jose Mesa--Octavio Dotel

This dominican team is a looser......i do not thing so!!!!!
_Normar - Saturday, May 29 2004 @ 03:03 AM EDT (#61687) #
"The U.S. isn't unbeatable, but they have a far stronger team than even the Dominican Republic"

I do not agree witt that....see this..

1b-Carlos peņa---Albert Pujols
2b-Alfonso Soriano
3b-Aramis Ramirez--(Alex Rodriguez..say's would like to play for the dominiocan republic for his parents)
ss-Miguel Tejada--Rafael Fulcar
DH-David Ortiz--Julio Franco
OF-Vladimir Guerrero--Sammy Sosa--Many Ramirez--Raul Mondesi--Moises Alou
Pichers-Pedro Martinez--Bartolo Colon--Juan Ortiz--Benoit--Odalis Perez--Armando Benites--Jose Mesa--Octavio Dotel

This dominican team is a looser......i do not thing so!!!!!
_Normar - Saturday, May 29 2004 @ 03:03 AM EDT (#61688) #
"The U.S. isn't unbeatable, but they have a far stronger team than even the Dominican Republic"

I do not agree witt that....see this..

1b-Carlos peņa---Albert Pujols
2b-Alfonso Soriano
3b-Aramis Ramirez--(Alex Rodriguez..say's would like to play for the dominiocan republic for his parents)
ss-Miguel Tejada--Rafael Fulcar
DH-David Ortiz--Julio Franco
OF-Vladimir Guerrero--Sammy Sosa--Many Ramirez--Raul Mondesi--Moises Alou
Pichers-Pedro Martinez--Bartolo Colon--Juan Ortiz--Benoit--Odalis Perez--Armando Benites--Jose Mesa--Octavio Dotel

This dominican team is a looser......i do not thing so!!!!!
_David Armitage - Saturday, May 29 2004 @ 07:30 PM EDT (#61689) #
From everything I've read it seems like Pujols seems more interested in playing for the US than DR.
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