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Batter's Box pays tribute to one of the game's great lefthanded pitchers, Warren Spahn. The amazingly durable ace passed away in his home in Broken Arrow, OK.

Known as half of the subjects of the "Spahn and Sain and pray for rain" rhyme discussing the Braves' staff of the '50s, Spahn was far more durable and dominant than his righthanded teammate. Consider:

* He led the league in innings pitched three times. Over a seventeen-year stretch (1947-63), he averaged 278 1/3 innings per season, with a low of "only" 245 2/3 IP in 1955.
* He threw 382 complete games, despite pitching well beyond the birth of the meaningful bullpen. As closers began to dot the landscape, he continued to be a durable anachronism, leading the NL in complete games at age 36, 37, 38, 39, 41 and 42.
* Thirteen times, he won at least 20 games; he had but one season with a losing record (14-19 with the woeful 1952 Boston Braves) before age 43.
* He won three strikeout titles, two ERA crowns and the 1957 Cy Young Award, back when the award didn't feature separate AL and NL winners.
* In fact, the Cy wasn't even established until 1956, when Spahn was 35. Had the award existed previously, he would have certainly won the 1947 and 1953 Cys, and would have contended in 1951.
* He hit 35 home runs in his career, still the NL record.
* His numbers might have been even better, but for the terrible designs of the Axis Powers. After earning a cup of coffee with the Braves in 1942, he spent three years away from baseball, performing military duty that included combat in the Battle of the Bulge. Wounded in battle, Spahn earned the Bronze Star and Purple Heart.

Warren Spahn, you'll be missed.
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Craig B - Monday, November 24 2003 @ 09:09 PM EST (#85156) #
Many ballplayers are heroes, to many different people. But few are actually heroic.

Warren Spahn, a hero to thousands if not millions, was heroic right down to his bones.
_Mick - Monday, November 24 2003 @ 11:14 PM EST (#85157) #
I think the most amazing baseball-related stat about Spahnnie is that he won 363 career games ... and before his age 26 season, he had exactly eight career wins.

For a little historical perspective on that, good ol' Roger clemens, of whom we all made much winning his 300th career game this past season, had 78 wins before his age 26 season. Greg Maddux, who will win his 300th next season, had 75. Tom Glavine, like Spahn a lefty, but one who will never reach 300 wins, had 53. Steve Carlton, the last (maybe in both senses) lefty to challenge Spahn's win total -- had 57 wins before his age 26 season, and ended up "just" 34 wins shy of Spahn's career total.

You hear that Spahn had the most wins of any lefty? True. This generation's best lefty, Randy Johnson -- who had only 10 wins before his age 26 season, a good comp to Spahn -- only needs to string together six more 20-win seasons to get within a Baker's Dozen of Spahn's career win total.

If you take the career win totals of the most dominant left-handed starter ever (Sandy Koufax, 165) and the top lefty in Jays history (Jimmy Key, 186) ... that total of 351 is a dozen shy of the number posted by Spahn alone.

Sure, sure "wins" aren't the best measure of a pitcher's effectiveness.

In this case, we just might have found one of those infamous exceptions to the rule.
Coach - Tuesday, November 25 2003 @ 01:25 PM EST (#85158) #
I actually saw the old guy pitch on TV a few times. That wasn't a great windup for a ten-year-old righty to emulate but he was amazing. He still had fantastic control at 43, and a simply amazing move to first.

Rob Neyer has penned a nice tribute, including mention of Spahn's intelligence and wit. Warren was still pretty sharp in his eighties. One of a kind, unforgettable.
Mike D - Tuesday, November 25 2003 @ 01:40 PM EST (#85159) #
I like Neyer's article too...but he makes a few factual errors. Lest anyone think that we at Batter's Box are sloppy with our facts, this thread is correct (and Neyer's is wrong) to the extent there are discrepancies.

It's nevertheless worth a read.
Mike Green - Tuesday, November 25 2003 @ 01:47 PM EST (#85160) #
I'm sorry that I missed Spahn's career by a couple of years. Most ballplayers whose career was interrupted by the war did not really recover. Spahn simply accepted it and carried on from that day forth. A fine example.
Craig B - Tuesday, November 25 2003 @ 01:58 PM EST (#85161) #
Seeing Mike D's note that Spahn holds the NL record for home runs hit by a pitcher with 35 made me think of a record that will not be broken in our lifetimes (and yes, I am *quite* confident of this)... Wes Ferrell's record of 37 home runs by an American League pitcher.
Mike Green - Tuesday, November 25 2003 @ 02:32 PM EST (#85162) #
Craig, you're a young man. The DH in the AL may be gone long before you are, so you never know. Or, who knows, a Brooks Kieschnick type might make it as a pitcher, and hit for himself. As Roseanne Roseannadana said, it's always something.
Craig B - Tuesday, November 25 2003 @ 04:43 PM EST (#85163) #
Mike, my allotted three score and ten is up in 39 years and five days. Since no AL pitcher has even come close to that number in the last 39 years, I am quietly confident. Has any AL pitcher even hit five home runs (as a pitcher, of course, and in the AL) in the last 39 years? (someone must have hit some HRs from 1964 to 1972, but who?) I mean, Bob Lemon had 37 homers, and Red Ruffing 36, and they were great, great hitters. But that was a long freakin' time ago.

I'm happy to take 40-1 odds on this, provided you pay up front... that cash ain't much use after I die, but I'd be happy to pay up as soon as it happens.
_Mick - Tuesday, November 25 2003 @ 05:09 PM EST (#85164) #
Didn't Ken Holtzman hit a bunch of homers in the AL before the DH? Or was he still with the Cubs at that time?
Craig B - Tuesday, November 25 2003 @ 05:19 PM EST (#85165) #
Holtzman hit two career home runs, none in the AL.
Craig B - Tuesday, November 25 2003 @ 05:27 PM EST (#85166) #
First note... Ferrell hit one in the NL, so the AL record is in fact 37, and it's shared by Lemon and Ferrell. Not all those HRs were necessarily hit as a pitcher for all that I know.

Don Larsen actually hit 14 homers; he's 13th all-time in the AL, tied with Jim Kaat. Mick may be thinking of Blue Moon Odom instead of Holtzman... Odom had 12 ALhomers. Dave McNally had 9, Catfish Hunter 6. Mike Cuellar, Jim Perry, Mudcat Grant, and Luis Tiant all had 5.
_peteski - Tuesday, November 25 2003 @ 08:01 PM EST (#85167) #
I was listening to the fan 590 today, and they were talking about Warren Spahn, and apparently he went on the fan to talk at some point in the last few years or perhaps very recently, and from the sounds of it, it was a very controversial appearance. Does anyone know what happened? They wouldn't say what specifically happened or what was said, but the guy sounded very wary about replaying the interview. It was really weird and quite maddening that they just wouldn't say what happened. If anybody has any idea what this was about, please post.
_Nathan - Tuesday, November 25 2003 @ 08:56 PM EST (#85168) #
he was on the FAN 590 bullpen with Mike Hogan and they were asking him questions about the baseball playoffs and who he liked to watch in the game today, you know, the run-of-the-mill line of questioning ... he was pretty sour, not sure if they caught him on an off-day or he didn't like the line of questioning (i'm guessing both), but i found it to be the best interview i've heard on that station b/c i couldn't stop laughing ... the fan 590 is a bit of a joke anyhow, but spahn came off as a cranky old man, which i guess at 81, he was ...
i heard pete gammons talking on ESPN radio today about him and it seems in his old age spahn became very jealous as to how much the players of today garner in salary -- i would think most older ballplayers fall into the same boat and i'm not suggesting this is why he snapped on the FAN 590 but if Gammons speaks the truth, i could see how asking him about today's game could maybe set him off ...
_Mick - Tuesday, November 25 2003 @ 11:23 PM EST (#85169) #
but if Gammons speaks the truth

Well! There's your problem right there!
_peteski - Wednesday, November 26 2003 @ 01:03 PM EST (#85170) #
thanks Nathan
_Ryan - Wednesday, November 26 2003 @ 01:32 PM EST (#85171) #
The Toronto Sun had an article on the Fan interview shortly after it happened.
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