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By Fawaz.

Every time I read a suggestion that Orlando Hudson is headed to Team X for John Q. Slugger, one name pops into my mind: John ‘Hot Rod’ Williams. I vividly recall my cursing out loud (to the chagrin of a 10-year-old Fawaz’ parents) and the ensuing swoon in my fandom following the announcement that the Phoenix Suns had finally acquired the big man that was going to put them over the top. I didn’t know much about the guy. He was 6’11” and I had his basketball card, though I never looked at it. I knew everything about the guy he was traded for. He was an all-star, went for 16-5-4 in 1994-95 and knocked down threes whenever Charles Barkley felt moved to pass the ball. (He was in town last season doing the colour commentary for the Suns broadcast and before the game he started knocking down long three-balls in his suit… one-handed.) He was Thunder Dan Majerle.


I don’t remember what the Suns’ record was in 1995-96. I know that they didn’t become an elite team. I know Majerle’s numbers dropped with the Cavs – he was perfectly suited to the Suns and no one else. And I know that everyone soon realized what a ten-year-old’s gut had told him all along; the Suns had traded away a piece more important than they had understood. He wasn’t as good as KJ or Barkley, but he was a perfect complement. He completed a virtuous circle for that team (this is, of course, a completely alien concept to Bauxites…).


Not that it really mattered. They could have won the championship that year and it wouldn’t have been the same. A parade with ‘Hot Rod’ Williams leading the way just wouldn’t have looked right. I rooted for a group of players that had its own style and character, not a design on a uniform. (What made me feel differently about the trade that brought Barkley into the fold? I don’t know and I won’t pretend that my feelings are logical.)


So when I hear Orlando Hudson for Troy-Freaking-Glaus (a man with Toronto on a no-trade list!) bandied about, it upsets me. Forget the fact that Hudson is incredibly valuable to the Jays. As far as I’m concerned, he IS the Jays. He wants to be here. He’s fun to watch, and I can’t stress the importance of that enough. I know this is where I differ from a lot of fans, but I’d rather enjoy watching 162 games featuring a 3rd-place team (with a winning record - I’m not sick) I relate to than watch 162 games and a playoff run orchestrated by a bunch of mercenaries. I hate the Sox and I hate the Yankees, not least because their current incarnations are filled with a bunch of guys that earned their stripes with other teams. I’m rooting for a sports team, not a management group. That’s not to say I’m against improving a team, but I would like it to remain recognizable.


Go ahead. Trade Hudson for some OBP and some SLG. It might push the Jays over the top. I might even smile about that. But whenever I reflect on why I’m so emotionally invested in sports, I’ll feel even stupider than I do now (and that's hard for a guy who's never even lived in Phoenix, but still lives and dies by their success). At least now I can say that I root for a style, a distinct character and a group I’ve watched develop. A trade would mean all I’m doing is rooting for a uniform and the empty privilege of being able to say “my” team is a winner.


Many thanks to Fawaz for this great pinch-hit, and to Aaron Reynolds for his usual stellar photography. If you’d like to submit an article for publication here at at Batter’s Box, please contact any roster member by e-mail.

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Pistol - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 09:22 AM EST (#137328) #
Well said Fawaz. I don't particularly agree with it (I guess I cheer for laundry) but I can appreciate that viewpoint more now than I did.
andrewkw - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 09:24 AM EST (#137329) #
Even if my favorite player was traded (not sure who that is at this point) if it was for a better player I'd be happy but also sad too. Sure it's sucks to lose a player like Hudson whom we've seen develop into the best defensive 2nd basemen in the majors, but everyone will get over it. It's not the Blue O-Dog, and one player, even your favorite player doesn't make a team. A lot of people including myself were heartbroken to see Delagdo leave. I've gotten over it. I'm sure most people have. If trading Hudson improves the team then it will be a quick road to recovery. Even if the trade was a bust you'd eventually get over it even if it take years. Plenty of fav favorites have been traded before. The days of having a group of players play together for their entire career are long over. It would be a surprise if even one current home grown Jay spends their entire career in Toronto. It sure would be nice though.

I'd love to see Hudson stay forever, but I'd like to see Glaus hit 40 home runs for the jays even more.
BguyRed - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 11:24 AM EST (#137340) #
What is happening to the payroll flexability that JP wanted so badly in past years? I thought he was supposed to be trying to pick up under valued talent in the moneyball vein. What about someone like Wade Miller, he isn't any worse than he was last year and with all the rest is probably going to be at least a half decent pitcher who we could flip at the deadline for bats.
Gerry - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 11:26 AM EST (#137342) #
O-Dog is also a very good corporate citizen. He regularly attends charitable functions and I saw recently that he is coming to St. Mary's, Ontario, in mid-January. He is brave to do that in mid winter.
Named For Hank - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 11:39 AM EST (#137350) #
What is happening to the payroll flexability that JP wanted so badly in past years?

He got it, and now is using it. Having a budget surplus doesn't get you any prize in baseball.

Thanks for that, Fawaz, I enjoyed reading it (though I disagree that all Bauxites wouldn't understand virtuous circles -- maybe they just don't get called that. I've said more than once about how glad I am to have another groundballer added to the pitching staff to make more use of Orlando Hudson's fabulous abilities, for example).

Intellectually, I understand that players I like will be traded from my baseball team of choice, but it's hard when the player is a guy like Orlando Hudson. He works hard, he makes spectacular plays (and finally won his Gold Glove), he's funny as all get-out, he's active in the community, he's very fan friendly...

Basically, I'm in denial of the possibility that he might be traded, in order to not get myself all worked up. Who needs that at Christmas?
Rob - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 11:43 AM EST (#137352) #
Who needs that at Christmas?

Or, more accurately, at Festivus?

Named For Hank - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 11:44 AM EST (#137353) #
Gerry, he and Larry Walker are doing an event together to benefit St. Mary's baseball. The price to attend the breakfast and autograph session was very reasonable, as these kind of things go. If bird droppings wasn't in England I might have bought him a ticket for Christmas.
Dave Till - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 11:52 AM EST (#137356) #
I fervently hope that the Jays don't trade the O-Dog, but I'd rather have a pennant than Hudson any day.

This is, I think, where Keith Law earns his spurs: presumably, the Jays have numbers that show exactly how much Orlando's defense is worth to the Jays, and how much of an offensive benefit the Jays need to gain to offset the defensive loss of trading him.

And the Jays don't have a lot of marketable parts to trade. Other teams don't want Hinske for the same reason the Jays just traded for Overbay to take his place. And other teams don't particularly want Batista or Lilly. If the Jays are going to acquire a bat via trade, and don't want to part with McGowan, they're going to have to give up somebody valuable.
Nick - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 12:25 PM EST (#137364) #
What about someone like Wade Miller

What about Halladay, Burnett, Towers, Lilly, Chacin, Batista, and McGowan? Why on earth would Toronto go after Wade Miller? I have no idea why I respond to things like this that clearly make no sense to anyone reading it but I do. Who would you get rid of to make room for Miller? Please, stick to discussing things that are even remotely relevant.

Ryan Day - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 12:46 PM EST (#137371) #
I always have mixed feelings about this sort of thing. On the one hand, I love watching Hudson play, and I think he's one of those players whose real value may exceed what the numbers say.

But at the same time, I try to be somewhat reasonable, and accept that no one player is more important than the team. If trading Hudson improves the team, how can you not do it?

Realistically, I suspect any trade talks the Jays have start with at least one of Hudson, Hill, McGowan, and maybe Wells. You can trade mediocrities for mediocrities, but it's a lot harder to get a star.

I'd miss Hudson, but the playoffs would help ease the pain. And if he has to be traded, I'd rather it be to Arizona, where he's not as likely to come back and haunt the Jays.
DepecheJay - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 01:18 PM EST (#137377) #
Absolutly wonderful piece Fawaz, you've said all the things I've thought about this and then some.

Hudson's value goes even deeper then any stats can show, offensive or defensive. Consider the stance that Vernon has taken on this whole matter: DON'T TRADE O-DOG. His reasoning is that it would simply hurt the chemistry in the clubhouse and cause a resentment from the players towards management. That's something the Jays definitely don't want, especially after fighting to get past the Mondesi years where he would constantly talk on his cell phone DURING THE GAME.

Unless you land a young stud like Dunn or Teixeira (which isn't happening any time soon)and O-Dog has to be included, hold off on trading him for now. He is, as Fawaz pointed out, the Majerle of the Jays and there are plenty of examples of players who thrive on one team or one system and just can't perform to the same level on another.

In all this, I'm hoping that O-Dog is the consumate professional. What I mean is, I hope that he hasn't gotten offended or upset by the constant trade rumors involving his name, some which have been even confirmed by JP himself. O-Dog is probably in every Jays fans "Top 3" along with Doc and probably Vernon or someone else, and it would be a tough pill for a lot of us to swallow. The fact that he plyas with so much heart and genuinely loves being a Blue Jay is what makes him such a favorite and what makes him so irreplaceable.

Please don't trade him J.P.
Named For Hank - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 01:20 PM EST (#137378) #
I have no idea why I respond to things like this that clearly make no sense to anyone reading it but I do.

I've trained myself not to. But I came close on that one.
Fawaz - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 02:21 PM EST (#137382) #

though I disagree that all Bauxites wouldn't understand virtuous circles -- maybe they just don't get called that. I've said more than once about how glad I am to have another groundballer added to the pitching staff to make more use of Orlando Hudson's fabulous abilities, for example

That was a tongue-in-cheek remark made because, after a wonderfully articulated post by Robert Dudek about a week ago, I was only just introduced to that particular term.

Thanks for the kind words, and as I mentioned, I'm not against improving the team. It was also unfair of me to demean any sentiment that supports improving the team at the cost of players we may be attached to (there is clearly more to it than 'laundry' and I shouldn't have implied otherwise). I suppose that, underneath some hyperbole, my message was that I have a man-crush on Orlando Hudson.

FWIW (and it has been insinuated by others), I suspect that Glaus' bat and defense at 3rd, coupled with the extra ABs for Hill, could vault the Jays into the playoffs and this could make some of the hurt go away.

I hope I haven't completely butchered this HTML stuff.

Mylegacy - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 02:37 PM EST (#137384) #
Fawaz enjoyable read, BUT:

The team is the house, the players are the decor du jour.

You BUY/DRAFT them to use and discard. You BUY/DRAFT them to get the TEAM to the next cup, the next step, the next level.

As you get older, I'm somewhere between 600 and 1223 years old (I'll have to check my birth certificate) you realize this even more so. There is no glory in the grave and EVEN the IDIOT GOD (Damon before someone prays I get stricken down by their God) went to the evil side of the force.

May the force be with you.

I enjoyed your post.
Craig B - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 03:19 PM EST (#137388) #
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Craig B - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 03:21 PM EST (#137389) #
That last message was from my son Jay who loves the O-
dog. :)
Shrike - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 03:32 PM EST (#137392) #
That's simply awesome. Craig's son knows his baseball players. :)
Mr. Destiny - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 03:45 PM EST (#137393) #
I don't understand how adding Troy Glaus for, as the rumour has it, Batista and Hudson, helps us with our current problem of an infield glut.

That trade would have Adams and Hill as our DP combo, presumably with John McDonald as the primary backup to both.

That leaves Koskie, Glaus, Overbay, Hillenbrand and Hinske between 1B, 3B and DH. Hinske's clearly 5th of the 5, but one of the other 4 guys would be on your bench every day. None of them can play anywhere else.

I just think that would be a poor allocation of resources unless the next move is to deal Hillenbrand for a corner outfielder. Maybe send Shea to Texas, they put him back at third and trade Hank Blalock elsewhere.

We'd have a daily lineup with (I assume) Hillenbrand on the bench, with two of Rios/Cat/Johnson still in the lineup every day.

That said, if this deal goes down, I'm pretty sure that JP knows all of that, and it's still 2005 on the calendar.
JayWay - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 05:44 PM EST (#137426) #
Posters shooting this deal down should not only think about what Glaus brings, but what Glaus could do for Vernon Wells. Wells hasn't been the same since Delgado left.
greenfrog - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 05:51 PM EST (#137429) #
I hate the phrase 'win-now mode' (as in "The Jays are clearly in..."). I'm sick of consistent mediocrity--now up to roughly ten years of it. I don't want the Jays to make the playoffs once, or even twice, and then regress to a team that resembles the Ash-era Jays (aging, overpriced veterans, middling farm system). I want the Jays to be young, dynamic, with an abundant farm system in 2008 and '09. This is what made the organization so exciting for most of 1984-1993.

We finally have the budget to be consistently good--if the drafting and trades are up to scratch. No matter how many big-time free agents we sign, and expensive veterans (that are the subject of bidding wars) we acquire, we aren't going anywhere without a dynamic nucleus of moderately-priced players and a robust farm system.
Mike Green - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 06:04 PM EST (#137435) #
For the Jays to have a long run, they will have to do exceptionally well with their young pitchers. It could happen, but the odds against it are very long.
costanza - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 06:08 PM EST (#137440) #
Being a Blue Jay fan in the 1980s was fun... seeing the team vault from obscurity to perennial contenders, built around a nucleus of talented young players who were really fun to root for. Steib, Key, Henke, Fernandez, Mulliniorg, and the Best Outfield in Baseball... great times.

That said, I had a lot more fun as a fan of the 1991-1993 teams, even if it was full of "merceneries". (Was there a bigger "enemy" for Jays fans of the 80s than Jack Morris?)

No offence intended, but "I'd rather root for a losing team with Player X than a winning team without him" sounds like something that is almost only said by someone who has never actually rooted for a team that won anything...

Having "your" team win a championship is fun, Fawaz. I'm betting you'll like it, if you ever get the chance...
JayWay - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 06:24 PM EST (#137456) #
"No offence intended, but "I'd rather root for a losing team with Player X than a winning team without him" sounds like something that is almost only said by someone who has never actually rooted for a team that won anything..."

Well said. I also wonder how much those people spend on this team. As someone with a Season Pass and who drags himeslf out of bed every other day in the summer to trek down to the dome and spend my cash on overpriced beer and crappy hotdogs just to watch this team, I can say without a doubt that watching a 4th place team with "potential" gets old real quick.

I have a FAN Sports Forecaster from 1998 that projects the Jays to be the Wild Card team. It talks about the Jays great pitching and young talent. Sound familiar? It should. It seems like we've been the "potential wild card team" for a decade now. It's time to take the next step.
Shrike - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 06:42 PM EST (#137458) #
There are reports on TSN that the Hudson + Batista deal for Glaus + a prospect is done, pending physicals.

This gets a genuine exclamation out of me. Damn, I'll be sorry to see Hudson leave.
CaramonLS - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 06:53 PM EST (#137462) #
You trade O-dog if the *right* deal comes along. I really don't think this is the right deal unless Glaus:

1) Manages to stay Healthy
2) Play above average corner OF defense.

As it stands right now, I highly doubt either of those things would come true.

This trade just does not fit our current needs.

I like O-dog as much as the next person, but you have to give up assets to get something in return.



JayWay - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 06:57 PM EST (#137467) #
Don't we need a 30+ HR guy? Isn't that just about the last piece of the puzzle?

What difference does it make if that power comes from the OF or the infield?
CaramonLS - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 06:59 PM EST (#137469) #
http://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article.jsp?content=20051223_164232_5304

It is Sportsnet, not TSN who is reporting the deal FYI.
CaramonLS - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 07:07 PM EST (#137471) #
Well, it looks like we'll be saying goodbye to Shea according to that report.

Now, the real question is, why would they play Glaus over Koskie @ 3B? Koskie has better defensive skills.

Probably a wash to tell who gets injured more.
danjulien - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 07:08 PM EST (#137472) #
I'm hoping for personalities that this won't be true however Glaus will be a welcome addition...why trade Hillenbrand and make Koskie DH. Probably because we can get more for Shea, but a lot of Koskie's value is in the field...
CaramonLS - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 07:12 PM EST (#137473) #
Koskie, when healthy (never) is a better player than Shea IMO.
Craig B - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 07:15 PM EST (#137474) #
That said, I had a lot more fun as a fan of the 1991-1993 teams, even if it was full of "merceneries". (Was there a bigger "enemy" for Jays fans of the 80s than Jack Morris?)

Not me, not even close. When the 80s team broke up after '89, my interest in the Toronto Blue Jays waned with it. In the mid-80s, my Blue Jay passions raged as high as my Expos ones; by the time the first World Series arrived in '92, the Blue Jays were really just another team and the Expos were unchallenged for first place in my heart. I pulled for the Jays in that ALCS and World Series, but it really felt like no big deal to me. When the Gord Ash era drew to a close and the Expos looking certain to leave, the Jays came roaring back for me as a rooting interest.

A team with no real core identity, composed of whoever the latest guys to catch the GM's interest are, is fine for casual fans and bandwagoneers. And yes, winning is always fun. But for the person I'd call the passionate fan, a team is a team of players - personnel may change but the team should retain an identity.

I'm not saying that Hudson is that identity. Like everyone else (yes, even Doc) one man cannot make an entire team. That being said, someone who doesn't recognize what a player like the O-Dog means, I think doesn't appreciate what draws people like me to a team.

That's not the worst thing in the world. Remember, we're pretty much all on the same side here, and we want what's best for the Toronto Blue Jays.

I saw comments above suggesting (essentially) that someone who doesn't think winning is everything is just a dilettante, not a real fan like him who goes to lots of games and so on. That's just ignorance. Winning is NOT everything, baseball is far, FAR more meaningful than that, and if you think that's all it is then I suggest you go buy a Yankees hat - while there's still time.

With all that said, I'm going to be the first to welcome Troy Glaus to Toronto with open arms. Orlando Hudson will remain one of my favorite players in the big leagues (it's not unusual for no Jay to be on that list, although thankfully Doc's still here) and I hope he keeps kicking ass - in the National League.

XooM - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 07:32 PM EST (#137475) #
I was just wondering.. who is this Figueroa guy? And is could this somehow be related to Glaus coming to Toronto?
Maybe they plan on putting him at short, Hill at third, Adams at 2nd and Koskie at DH.

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051219&content_id=36592&vkey=news_milb&fext=.jsp
King Ryan - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 07:44 PM EST (#137480) #
Can't we all just have different opinions?

I take offense to the notion that I'm a "bandwagoner" if I will still root for the Jays even after they trade away their "identity" and sign a bunch of FA's.
BrockLanders - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 08:01 PM EST (#137486) #
The Blue Jays have borrowed from the yankees' dubious playbook with this type of trade. Big money, big risk.......
JayWay - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 08:23 PM EST (#137493) #
Craig,

Putting 'essentially' in brackets doesn't justify you misrepresenting my post.

I never said who was and wasn't a real fan.

I never said winning was everything.

I'm well aware of the importance of team-identity, continuity, and community relations. I was the one, afterall, who argued on this board that it was a bad idea on the part of the Canadian Baseball Association to bring on American players with marginal Canadian roots in order to boost the team's chances in the Baseball World Classic (or whatever it is called).

Winning isn't everything. But you're naive if you suggest it isn't a big part. This team is in a position to win. In addition, I believe they're also in a position to win the right way. Neither this trade, nor any thing the Jays have done this offseason, has compromised the team's integrity. We still boast a mid-table pay-roll. The core of our team is still comprised of home-grown talent. Even if we aquire Glaus, he would come to us as a result of our own minor-league system - a player in Hudson who we developed.

I'd hate to be a Yankee fan. Part of the fun of following a team like the Jays is the ability to follow players like Halladay, Hill, McGowan, Adams, and others from the draft, to their debut, and throughout their career. Doc is not just one of my favourite players because he's possibly the most dominant pitcher in the game. He's one of my favourites because he's one of the most dominant pitchers who I saw and supported back when he was little-known outside Toronto and/or hardcore Blue Jay circles. Like Hudson, if Doc leaves, he will always be a Jay in my eyes.

But if Doc leaves, just like if Hudson leaves, that alone won't compromise this team's identity. And if one player leaving leads to success, then it's worth it.



brent - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 10:05 PM EST (#137502) #
Merry Christmas to Bauxites out there. I think everyone should be pleased that JP has gone out and been so aggressive in acquiring talent. He is making the Jays a team to want to come to.
If the trade goes through, I am OK seeing Hudson off. I remember a few years ago when Joey Lawrence was playing second base, I called into Wilner and said, "What about Orlando Hudson? Why isn't he up with the big club?" Wilner responded basically he thought the team should consider it.
I have liked him, but at the same time painful choices need to be made (see Oakland pitching). There will more prospects and new-comers to cheer for.
JP also needs to keep up his 'White Jays' reputation...
Craig B - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 11:22 PM EST (#137530) #
I'm more representing my own personal viewpoint, perhaps somewhat inarticulately, than suggesting what other fans should feel. I'm saying that if they were like me, a passionate fan would want a team to keep an identity - that winning with whoever was fine for the others but not for the passionate fan.

Others will feel differently. I didn't want to suggest they aren't passionate fans - just that they aren't a fan in the same way I am, they feel diffferently about the team, and certainly no less strongly. So no, if you don't care who is wearing the uniform then I don't think you're a "bad fan" - just someone who thinks of the team very differently from me. That's not necessarily bad.

Like I said, we're all on the same side here.
Fawaz - Friday, December 23 2005 @ 11:25 PM EST (#137532) #

No offence intended, but "I'd rather root for a losing team with Player X than a winning team without him" sounds like something that is almost only said by someone who has never actually rooted for a team that won anything...

I must have said this somewhere. I just can't find it. I said that trading an integral and likeable part of a team for a player that I don't relate to makes the experience less enjoyable for me. I'd like them to win. I think the Jays will/would win with Hudson next year (unless you believe that each season gives us one 'winner' and 29 'losers', and there are a few of those out there).

Having "your" team win a championship is fun, Fawaz. I'm betting you'll like it, if you ever get the chance...

Do back-to-back SuperBowls count? World Cups (the cricket and soccer varieties)? Division titles? Conference titles? I won't bother mentioning the World Series because I was too young to appreciate the build up and the final triumph. Yeah, it's fun. And it'll be fun if it happens in Toronto. I'll ask not to be spoken down to because I look for something a little different in my sports experience than you.

costanza - Saturday, December 24 2005 @ 03:46 PM EST (#137668) #
Do back-to-back SuperBowls count? World Cups (the cricket and soccer varieties)? Division titles? Conference titles?

No (x4). Not even close, unless you were living in these cities at the time.

I'll ask not to be spoken down to because I look for something a little different in my sports experience than you.

If you interpreted my remarks that way, I apologize. It's not what I intended. But the fact that you think that having your team win a Cricket World Cup would even remotely compare to what it'd be like to be a Blue Jay fan in Toronto during a World Series win further suggests, to me, that you couldn't really understand what it'd be like.

"My" team (at the time) won the '86 and '93 Stanley Cups, and the experience wasn't remotely like it was being a Blue Jay fan in '92/'93... but, of course, "shared experiences" aren't important to everyone. YMMV...

(Of course, if you don't live in Toronto, or around other Jays fans, nevermind. :-)

Anyways, Merry Christmas, all.

slitheringslider - Sunday, December 25 2005 @ 10:05 AM EST (#137686) #
Craig B, I would also beg to differ.

Like the players, I feel like the ultimate goal for each season is to win championships. Many of my favourite players have come and gone throughout the years, but it is part of the business. We as fans must also move on and trust the GM to make the right moves for the ballclub. I don't think by putting winning as THE THING make us bandwagoners, or Yankeeites; we are only a different type of fans with different rules. Sure, obviously we would like to win with a team that is completely home-made, but now-a-day in baseball that is not possible. Even if they trade Halladay - who is my favourite player - to improve the team, I will welcome it eventhough it would hurt a lot.

All I want for Christmas is a CHAMPIONSHIP!!!

At this point I just want to share with you how sad I was when they traded away Shawn Green, who was my favourite Blue Jay at the time. Although sadly that trade didn't work out.
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