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Halladay starts out well against the Sox in a 4-1 win.


Good signs:
  • Doc got 6 ground ball outs in 2 innings
  • Aaron Hill went yard
  • The pitchers only gave up one walk and just 4 hits

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Joanna - Thursday, March 01 2007 @ 07:12 PM EST (#163923) #
I know it doesn't really matter but ... YAY!  Almost makes up for the crappy weather.
Geoff - Thursday, March 01 2007 @ 07:20 PM EST (#163924) #
Crappy weather? I'd like to go where the weather is crappy. The weather here is abominable.

And for those who need to see some pictures of the winners having fun in the sun, I give you SI's Jays Postcards from Dunedin.

JustinD - Thursday, March 01 2007 @ 08:22 PM EST (#163925) #
Listened to most of the game on the Fan today. Small sample size I know, but I liked Alan Ashby behind the mic. You know you read too much stats when you classify one day of the new broadcaster as a "small sample size." I'm not a person that will bash Warren, I think he is a nice guy that came in at the worst possible time for a new Jays announcer. I am really excited from what I heard today from the new team though.

Welcome back Alan!

As for the game, I was really happy that there was only one walk. These young pitchers could really provide some nice bullpen depth. I know the results don't mean anything, but I think the fact that they had command of the strike zone is real good this early in the spring.

budgell - Thursday, March 01 2007 @ 08:39 PM EST (#163929) #

Burnett looks leaner, perhaps he really is following Halliday's workout lead.  I also like that he didn't throw as much in the offseason and his decision to focus only on locating the fastball early in the spring and mix in the curve and change later. 

I'll tell you what, if he finally reaches his awesome potential, Doc stays healthy and they get anywhere near league average from 3-4-5,  with that offense....ahhhh spring.

Chuck - Thursday, March 01 2007 @ 09:12 PM EST (#163930) #
The renewed optimism of spring. Gotta love it. HIllenbrand's gonna crank 30 dingers this year! No wait, that was last year. Never mind.
Lefty - Thursday, March 01 2007 @ 09:14 PM EST (#163931) #

I'm going to set the over / under on Aaron Hill's homerun total at 10.

What do people think?

Regarding that lousy weather you are all dealing with. My GF is stuck in Pearson right now, severely delayed on her way back to Lotus Land.

Damn your freezing rain!  Whatever that is?

andrewkw - Thursday, March 01 2007 @ 09:21 PM EST (#163932) #
I'm going to put Hill under but at 9.  It would not surprise me to see him pass 10 home runs this year however I think it will be at least another year before he reaches double digits.

I thought today's game was going to be on mlb.tv  I thought all red sox st games are televised?  First thing I did when I got home was buy a 1 month subscription so I could watch it in the archives and surprised it wasn't there.  I did enjoy Ashby as well at least.

budgell - Thursday, March 01 2007 @ 09:22 PM EST (#163933) #

I'm going to set the over / under on Aaron Hill's homerun total at 10.

I'm taking over, I'm thinking 15.

jim854 - Thursday, March 01 2007 @ 09:35 PM EST (#163934) #
There were 2 areas of todays game that stood out: first, the pitching ( except for Accardo) was excellent- very few walks; second, the team defence (except for Roberts). - even when the minor leaguers entered the game - was very good.

There were 5000 people at the game and the early lead by the Jays kept the BoSox fans at bay. For spring training, the Jays played sound, fundamental baseball.

There was also a flyover by a Coast guard helicopter just before the game started. The crowd showed their appreciation for the fine work these people do (especially during Katrina). Very moving!
A - Thursday, March 01 2007 @ 10:20 PM EST (#163935) #
The other half of the Red Sox roster was playing Boston-area Northeastern University. On the hill for the Huskies was Toronto kid Kris Dabrowiecki, going into his third season with NU after being a late-round pick by the Brewers out of high school in 2004. The ace of the Huskies staff, Dabrowiecki was given the start but only faced four batters because he'll be starting Saturday against Purdue. Of the two outs he recorded one was a strikeout of JD Drew.

Having played a season with Kris at Ursula Franklin Academy, I'm sure that hitting (or more accurately not hitting) against him in practice is the closest I'll come to facing a Major League pitcher. Glad to see he's doing so well for himself.

Oh, as for the game
: Josh Beckett started and Northeastern lost 11-0. But Dabrowiecki and a couple teammates combined to no-hit the Sox through three.
timpinder - Thursday, March 01 2007 @ 11:23 PM EST (#163936) #

Over.  Power comes from the core and the base, and Hill's got it.  I'm predicting 12 homers this year for Aaron Hill and he'll peak at 19-22 later in his career.

Mylegacy - Friday, March 02 2007 @ 12:15 AM EST (#163937) #
When I see Hill at bat one of the first things I notice is his powerful chest. IMO, while I'm not predicting it for this year...I think Aaron will be a 20 homer guy in his prime.
MatO - Friday, March 02 2007 @ 09:47 AM EST (#163939) #

I had the impression that Ashby had a deep voice but in fact it was much closer to Jerry's voice than Tom's.  In fact I confused him and Jerry once but I was only half listening.

Jerry made an interesting comment which didn't sound like it was opinion but something he was told.  He said that Adams would play 2nd at Syracuse and if all goes well he would move into the 2nd base spot and Hill would slide over to SS.  He made the point a couple of times that Hill has a SS arm.  I don't think I've heard Jays management talk about moving Hill to short recently.

Sanjay - Friday, March 02 2007 @ 09:58 AM EST (#163940) #

Bought the audio pass from MLB. 

What a treat to listen to the Jay game at the office while it was sneezing (snowing/freezing rain) outside. 

What a nice surprise it was to hear such a well called game.  Haven't enjoyed a Jays game like that since Tom and Cheek were calling the games.

Frank Markotich - Friday, March 02 2007 @ 11:04 AM EST (#163942) #
MatO: On the subject of Adams, at the team's annual season ticketholders' function in February, JP Ricciardi said that they hadn't given up on Adams, that his future now was at second base with Hill switching back to SS if Adams got his act together.
Chuck - Friday, March 02 2007 @ 11:39 AM EST (#163943) #

his future now was at second base with Hill switching back to SS if Adams got his act together

The thing is, what else could Ricciardi say? While the statement may well be true, it could also be the case that Ricciardi believes Hill to be the second basemen for the next 5 years with Adams' only potential value to the organization as trade bait, predicated on success at AAA. And that's something I don't think you'd expect a GM to actually say out loud (gotta keep Adams motivated, you know?).

I think the likeliest scenario that would see Adams log playing time for the Jays were if Glaus were hurt (requiring Hill to slide to 3B) and a hot-hitting Adams in AAA sliding, temporarily, into Hill's 2B shoes. As has been speculated elsewhere at this site, maybe the glut of middle infielders is intended to indirectly back up third base. While my preference would be to see Hill play 150 games at second base with no shuffling around the infield, that may be a luxury the team can't oblige.

Flex - Friday, March 02 2007 @ 12:08 PM EST (#163945) #
It wouldn't surprise me if Ricciardi has an eye to 2009 when the only thing keeping Glaus here will be a player option for $11 million and change. We might find Hill officially manning third at that point.
SheldonL - Friday, March 02 2007 @ 01:35 PM EST (#163946) #
I know I'm getting ahead of myself and that we had this discussion about a month ago, but the offseason between '08 and '09 will be rather interesting. That marks the end of both Glaus and Thomas' contracts but Glaus has a player option and Thomas has a mutual option. It's very likely that that will be it for Thomas who will be 41, but Glaus may not choose to come back if he's pushed into the DH role. He'll be 33 or 34, I believe, so hopefully, he'll embrace the DH role...I'm just thinking aloud here...
Mike Green - Friday, March 02 2007 @ 01:47 PM EST (#163947) #
The thing is, what else could Ricciardi say?

He could say something like: "Russ is going to spend most of his time in Syracuse at second base to start the season, but he will get some work at short and in the outfield.  We are confident that Russ will be a valuable player for us in the long run, but we are not sure yet the role that he will play."

There is nothing wrong with admitting that one's first round draft pick in a weak year might just end up as a fine utility player. 
Mylegacy - Friday, March 02 2007 @ 02:26 PM EST (#163948) #

Regarding Adams...

I predict he will be an EXCELLENT utility player and if we cannot find a qualitatively better 2nd baseman or SS...and I fear we won't...then I predict Adams will be an OK slightly above major league average starting 2nd baseman with Hill being an OK slightly above average starting SS. Our SS and 2nd base situation will be taken care of for the next half decade.

timpinder - Friday, March 02 2007 @ 02:44 PM EST (#163951) #

I wasn't sure where to put this, but Jayson Stark at ESPN has an article about the Jays' inability to sign Lilly and/or Meche.  He believes the Jays are probably better off, and I agree.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2007/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2784998

 

 

AWeb - Friday, March 02 2007 @ 02:45 PM EST (#163952) #
One thing the Jays do not have this year is a strong bench. The fourth outfielder might be Stairs (assuming Lind will be kept at AAA); he would be the logical backup DH as well. All the OF can play CF, which certainly helps a lot there. The backup middle infielders aren't clear, but don't look good. Backup at first is Stairs again? Or perhaps Thomas?  At third, Hill appears to be the backup, or perhaps one of the SS? Which is where Adams comes in.

Contrast this with last year, where Hinske/Hillenbrand could play either corner IF position, Hinske showed surprising competence in the OF, Catalanotto was a reliable OF, Hill/Adams/MacDonald were interchangeable on the middle IF,  spare catchers and the spare OF could DH reasonably on top of Hinske/Hillenbrand.

Adams, at worst, serves as a valuable asset for the team to have in AAA ready to go. In a pinch, he can play SS a few weeks, should the old vets not cut it. He can play 2B if Hill gets hurt. If Glaus gets hurt, he can cover 2B while Hill moves to 3B. Adams is unlikely to make the team, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a significant # of AB's this year.

I expect some of this to come up in a month or so when the Jays are previewed, but they appear to have a much larger uncertainty this year. If everyone stays healthy and as good as last year, the lineup is very good/great (even with a SS sinkhole). But almost any injury adds another hole to the lineup, or at least is a large downgrade. Strangely, I think the pitching is more predictable despite being more up in the air...there are a lot of similar options at the bottom of the rotation and the bullpen.
Gerry - Friday, March 02 2007 @ 04:37 PM EST (#163955) #
Jays win 9-6 today over Boston.  Tracy Thorpe blew the save in the ninth and got the win when the Jays scored three in the tenth.  Ryan Patterson hit a home run in the tenth.  Kevin Barker hit a home run earlier in the game, Alex Rios, Adam Lind and Ryan Roberts had doubles.  Gustavo Chacin and Dustin McGowan were the first two pitchers and each were scored on.
Mike Green - Friday, March 02 2007 @ 05:06 PM EST (#163956) #
It appears that Roberts will be moving back to third base this year.  The Syracuse infield of Roberts/Hattig, Olmedo, Adams, Barker/Hattig with Thigpen catching should be pretty good, and that'll help the young pitchers. I wonder where Sergio Santos fits.
Subversive - Friday, March 02 2007 @ 05:09 PM EST (#163957) #
Not sure if this is an okay place to reply with this (new here, so feel free to yell at me if you need to), but there's an interesting (and shockingly, free) article at espn.com by Stark, about the pitchers the Jays signed and didn't sign this offseason. It's here.
HollywoodHartman - Friday, March 02 2007 @ 05:44 PM EST (#163958) #
It's fine to post articles, just that one was posted just a few posts above you. But welcome, and thanks for trying to spread some knowledge.
G Baier - Friday, March 02 2007 @ 05:45 PM EST (#163959) #
The Jays scored six runs in the third on Runelvys Hernandez  who pitched last year for KC. The irony is that he pitched a complete game shutout against a 2 run complete game by Halladay at the end of August. Perhaps the best (worst) example of the offense not giving Halladay run support near the end of last year.
BigTimeRoyalsFan - Friday, March 02 2007 @ 05:57 PM EST (#163960) #

"There is nothing wrong with admitting that one's first round draft pick in a weak year might just end up as a fine utility player. "

Weak or not, what i see is Kazmir-Swisher-Hamels in the 3 picks immediately after JP's pick of Adams, not to mention guys like Francouer, Blanton, and Cain later in that same first round.
HollywoodHartman - Friday, March 02 2007 @ 06:04 PM EST (#163961) #
I'm not sure about Swisher and Hamels, but Kazmir slid due to signability issues.


Subversive - Friday, March 02 2007 @ 11:31 PM EST (#163962) #
Sorry, I only had the 'featured' comments showing. Saw it about five minutes after I had posted.
VBF - Saturday, March 03 2007 @ 02:07 AM EST (#163963) #
Weak or not, what i see is Kazmir-Swisher-Hamels in the 3 picks immediately after JP's pick of Adams, not to mention guys like Francouer, Blanton, and Cain later in that same first round.

I pose this question to those who know more about the operations of minor leagues significantly more than I do: Of course there's a certain level of talent, athleticism and skill within players before they are drafted, but who really creates the player? Who's to say that Adams grown and raised by, for all intents and purposes, the Phillies instead of the Jays doesn't become more than he is with the Jays?

I guess the conclusion I'm looking for is that a certain amount of accountability has to be put on the coaching and development at the minor league level and perhaps more taken off the people who drafted the player. I'm just not sure how much and variability between development systems in each franchise.
Malcolm Little - Saturday, March 03 2007 @ 09:05 AM EST (#163965) #

VBF, that's as nebulous as deciphering whether the buracracy of government foiled otherwise good policies by elected government. There's obvious value to the knowledge, but it's very, very hard and exhaustive to find it out definitively.

In retrospect, the Adams pick looks terrible. We could pillary every GM who ever drafted with this game. The only insight gained that way is hearing whom we do want to pillary.

At the time, many thought JP was going too safe, but most agreed that a year or two of conservative drafting was necessary to avoid Berg the 1B and such follies.

I wish he'd go best talent available for the first two rounds at least with some fliers and conservative drafting mixed together afterwards. I'd rather he pull a Clayton than draft another Adams in the first round, really.

Had Adams been drafted in the 3rd or 4th, we'd all be celebrating JP's foresight.

Pistol - Saturday, March 03 2007 @ 09:24 AM EST (#163967) #
I guess the conclusion I'm looking for is that a certain amount of accountability has to be put on the coaching and development at the minor league level and perhaps more taken off the people who drafted the player.

Are David Purcey or Josh Banks (or whoever) the same pitchers they are with the Jays if they were drafted by the Twins or Astros or Pirates?

I've wondered the same thing.  What's the split between drafting and development?  Because it all gets put on the draft, but it probably shouldn't.  Picking the players is more important, but is it a 90/10 split?  60/40?


earlweaverfan - Saturday, March 03 2007 @ 02:09 PM EST (#163971) #
In Ontario, this week, a report just came out on the public schools, that rated them not in absolute terms (how well their students performed) but in relative terms (how well did they perform, given what hand they were dealt with.)  Without getting into the merits of that report, is it possible to imagine a similar assesment of a minor league system?

On the surface, it would seem that Kansas City and Tampa Bay's systems ought to be judged more toughly than that of the Yankees - they get all the top picks, year after year.  Of course, the first problem is, we don't know whether the starting calibre of the players is in any serious way reflected in how high they were drafted.  Obviously, if we knew that the player who was picked # 10 was actually the 10th best talent in the draft, we could assess whether he rose to anywhere from 1st to 9th best of that cohort throughout his minor league career.  Then, if his team achieved this for more than half of the players they had in the farm system, year after year, we might conclude that they were better at developing talent than other teams.  The challenges of doing that are pretty evident, and so maybe we need another approach.

When I was a kid growing up (pre-Jays) I became, as you might have guessed, a Baltimore Oriole fan.  One of the attributes of the Baltimore farm system in those days, was that they had a Baltimore Oriole way of doing everything (all the key disciplines of fielding, throwing, base running, hitting, catching, and so forth) and they drilled it into the heads of every minor league player so that when any of them reached the majors, he had been trained in all the best practices (as we would now say) that the big club expected.  This meant, of course, that all the minor league managers and coaches were working off the same playbook, and saying very consistent things to their players.  (Of course, this is a different standard to judge a farm system by than its ability to make the most of the talent it has drafted, but it is one of the great potential contributors to buildikng a franchise that consistently wins over the long haul).

Does anyone believe that there is a Blue Jay way of doing everything, that you can see drilled into every new player coming up?  If so, what skills or best practices differentiate Blue Jay trained players?  If not (I for one can't see it) does it bother you?   Do you think the  team suffers for this lack?



Chuck - Saturday, March 03 2007 @ 05:19 PM EST (#163979) #

Jack Wilson may well be an excellent defensive shortstop (John Dewan has him ranked 2nd overall to Adam Everett for the period 2003-2005), but his career OPS+ is 75, and that includes his alien invasion, OPS+ of 107, three years ago. It's hard to believe his glove is good enough to offset his miserable hitting.

Would he be an improvement over Royce Clayton? Sure. But so would Youppi. Would the "better than Royce" argument justify absorbing Wilson's 3-year, $20M contract? I personally can't see it, though some might argue the merits of locking down the middle infield for the next few years (I argued this same thing this winter in my defense of pursuing Lugo over Meche).

On a related note, just how sad is life as a Pirates fan when Jack Wilson is what you are spending your spring talking about?

Magpie - Saturday, March 03 2007 @ 05:57 PM EST (#163983) #
what i see is Kazmir-Swisher-Hamels in the 3 picks immediately after JP's pick of Adams

And later still, Jeff Francoeur and James Loney. Looking not so good at the moment. No argument there.

But youneverknow. There are very well established reasons to regard drafting high school pitchers in the first round as the height of foolishness. And it's still worth noting that we only have access to a fragment of what these players are going to accomplish in the game. It's early days still. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that five years from now, Kazmir and Hamels will be out of baseball - both those guys have already had some issues  -  while Adams is playing in the major leagues.

But this year, for sure, I'd rather have Hamels. Or Kazmir.


Barry Bonnell - Saturday, March 03 2007 @ 06:48 PM EST (#163991) #
In the Stark ESPN article I am surprised no one mentioned this comment by JP. IMO, this reflects badly on his skills as a GM.

"Sometimes -- and this is just being flat-out honest -- we just get caught up in the chase," Ricciardi says. "We get caught up in the chase of going after these guys. And because of the competitiveness in you, you want to get these guys. Then I think sometimes, when you don't get them, you have a tendency to take a step back and say, 'You know what? Maybe this was the better thing for us.'"
VBF - Saturday, March 03 2007 @ 08:08 PM EST (#163994) #
"Sometimes -- and this is just being flat-out honest -- we just get caught up in the chase," Ricciardi says. "We get caught up in the chase of going after these guys. And because of the competitiveness in you, you want to get these guys. Then I think sometimes, when you don't get them, you have a tendency to take a step back and say, 'You know what? Maybe this was the better thing for us.'"

I think JP is speaking about himself and a lot (most?) GMs in baseball. It may not be the cost savvy approach, but every GM seems to have a frivolous gene in them, some more than others. I think there's human in a lot of these people, especially GMs who may come from a background where GMs cared more about PR (See Ash, Gord). It sounds bad that the defense is "well everybody is doing it!", but computers don't run baseball yet. They're humans have natural instincts, which will influence the job that they do.

Heck, look at Billy Beane, a perceived 'PR killer'. Tell me he didn't feel pressure to replace Thomas' bat that he had to spend a little more than he wanted to obtain an inferior (but still quite valuable) player.

As long as human beings run the show there will always be an element of "bad" instincts that may hinder the success of the team. This is something natural and expected.
Magpie - Saturday, March 03 2007 @ 09:44 PM EST (#163995) #
IMO, this reflects badly on his skills as a GM.

And Ricciardi obviously agrees with you.
Kieran - Sunday, March 04 2007 @ 12:23 AM EST (#163997) #
I actually found Ricciardi's quote to be refreshingly honest...GMs are human beings too. It's no different than spending a little more for a car that you fell in love with on a test drive, etc. I'd rather hear him admit to the human element of the free agent pursuit than be subjected to the usual rhetoric of professional sports.
Andrew K - Sunday, March 04 2007 @ 12:52 PM EST (#164004) #
If anyone wants to chat then do come to the live chatroom (linked in the top banner) during spring training games. If other people are there then I will probably be around during most of the games that are on the radio or webcast, just like last year.
Gerry - Monday, March 05 2007 @ 03:32 PM EST (#164053) #

Dustin McGowan, Casey Janssen and Ty Taubenheim pitched in the B game this morning.  McGowan was average, 49 pitches in 2 innings.  Janssen and Taubenheim both pitched well.  Russ Adams hit a two run home run off Freddy Garcia.

Magpie - Monday, March 05 2007 @ 08:37 PM EST (#164061) #
Ricciardi has stated pretty flatly that the Jays are not trading Rios.

Not for Lieber, but for Myers or Hamels? I'd have to think about that (I am somewhat smitten by Brett Myers, I admit.)
Gerry - Monday, March 05 2007 @ 10:01 PM EST (#164064) #

I am somewhat smitten by Brett Myers, I admit.

As was Mrs. Myers, last season.

Magpie - Monday, March 05 2007 @ 10:41 PM EST (#164070) #
From all accounts, Mr and Mrs Myers truly are smitten with each other again.

Last year, not so much.
Noah - Tuesday, March 06 2007 @ 01:06 PM EST (#164076) #
Blair has a new piece up on his dunedin blog which has Gibbons saying that he'd be surprised if League is ready to head north with the team at the end of spring training.  He mentioned that there are some serious negotiations going on right now with the Phillies and possibly the Padres.  If league can't go for the start of the year they need to make a move for a true setup guy.  It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.
China fan - Tuesday, March 06 2007 @ 01:49 PM EST (#164078) #
    Blair insists that there is fire behind the smoke of the trade rumors, and he says he has multiple sources confirming that the Jays and the Phillies are talking trade, with the Jays looking for a set-up man in the bullpen.   I find this rather frustrating.  The Jays had an excellent set-up man -- Justin Speier -- and they deliberately let him walk away as a free agent because they were confident in League's development.  But they didn't supervise League's winter weight-training program, and the guy managed to give himself a self-inflicted injury -- and a fairly significant one, it now appears.  So now the Jays might have to trade away one of their top pitching prospects -- perhaps a McGowan or a Janssen -- to fill a spot that was supposed to be so solid that Speier was deemed superfluous.   It's true that McGowan or Janssen might be unable to crack the Jays rotation for another year or two, so perhaps they are trading chips.  But why are the Jays forced to use one of their best trading chips to strengthen a bullpen that was supposed to be plenty strong already?  Seems like poor planning to have let Speier walk.    By the way, do the Phillies or Padres have any low-priced set-up men of any decent quality?
Ryan Day - Tuesday, March 06 2007 @ 02:24 PM EST (#164083) #

If League is only going to be out for a few weeks, or maybe a month, I don't see the need to make a move: I'm fine with Frasor and Downs holding down the fort for a while.

I wonder what Ricciardi and Gillick are talking about. I hope it's not Lieber - anything more than Ismael Ramirez would be overpaying for a guy who's probably not much better than Marcum or Janssen. A Rios-Myers deal would be interesting, but it seems too big. And they really don't seem to have much in the way of ML relievers or middle-infield prospects (assuming that Utley & Rollins are going absolutely nowhere). I don't know what the Padres would bring to the equation, either.

VBF - Tuesday, March 06 2007 @ 02:26 PM EST (#164084) #
By the way, do the Phillies or Padres have any low-priced set-up men of any decent quality?

I can think of one out of San Diego but surely his price is going to be more than McGowan or Janssen.  As for Philly, they probably value Gordon more than anyone, and the cost to take him out of Philly would be ridiculously high and not even approach true worth.

But for Cole Hamels, I'd pay whatever it takes.
Ryan Day - Tuesday, March 06 2007 @ 03:00 PM EST (#164085) #
I'd have to think about Cole Hamels, to be honest: His injury history makes me very nervous - the guy makes A.J. Burnett look like Cal Ripken.
SNB - Tuesday, March 06 2007 @ 03:49 PM EST (#164086) #
I don't think you can criticize JP for not beinging in Speier. After what happened a couple years ago with Ligtenberg and Adams, he's understandably very wary of giving any relievers big long-term contracts. And the chances that the Jays could have matched Anahiem's offer is pretty slim, in my humble opinion. I haven't got as much of a problem with him trading a superfluous pitching prospect for a reliever who isn't signed to a fat contract.

The one I think Toronto will miss is Cat, honestly. I know he seemed not to have a place on this team, but it would have given JP a lot more flexibility in negotitating this offseason.

VBF - Tuesday, March 06 2007 @ 05:28 PM EST (#164091) #
From Jordan Bastian's Blog:

Brandon League threw fastballs off a mound for about five minutes at Knology Park on Monday. It was the right-hander's first time on a mound in 10 days, and he said afterwards that the right lat injury that's sidelined him so far this spring wasn't an issue. In fact, League said he has no doubts that he can be ready by Opening Day.


SheldonL - Tuesday, March 06 2007 @ 07:16 PM EST (#164094) #

I think San Diego might just go for a McGowan for Linebrink deal. It would absolutely break my heart to see McGowan leave but he would immediately perform in the most spacious park in the majors and with a Gold Glover in center field with a couple of slick fieldng middle-infielders....oooh-wee! I think we lose the trade immediately but if we really need a reliver(I just know I'm going to regret this post, yup there it is, I regret it already...)

Mike Green - Wednesday, March 07 2007 @ 11:59 AM EST (#164104) #
Ricciardi makes perfect sense on this one.  League is likely to be ready, and if he is not, there are any number of reasonable options. 

I am pretty sure that Jason Frasor would fill the "set-up man" role a lot better than Royce Clayton will fill the "starting shortstop" role.  The Jays have any number of other choices in the pen (in fact, there are real questions about whether this is space for all of them) and relatively few in the middle infield. 

Pistol - Wednesday, March 07 2007 @ 12:35 PM EST (#164105) #

And even if League can't start at the beginning of the season it's only going to be a week or two before he's ready.  There'd be no need to trade for a reliever for that short of a period.

Plus, good relievers aren't cheap (in terms of talent given up in trade) and the Jays have more than enough candidates to fill in.  That's why you sign Matt Roney & Jean Machi and keep Ryan Houston & Tracey Thorpe on the 40 man roster.

Mick Doherty - Wednesday, March 07 2007 @ 12:57 PM EST (#164109) #

Either there's something more to it, or Gibbons is blowing smoke.

Or none of the above. I read it and figured it was Gibbons using a lot of words to say nothing, but not denying any possibility ... "going outside the organization" is more or less the GM's call, so he'd best not say "We won't do that." Saying "that's an option," which is essentially what he did, is both true and safe.

ayjackson - Wednesday, March 07 2007 @ 01:19 PM EST (#164116) #

I thought the offseason was for drinking beer, going on cruises and playing in celebrity golf tournaments!!

If everyone has offseason workout schedules, why do we need 45 days of Spring Training???  Play Ball!!

Magpie - Wednesday, March 07 2007 @ 10:35 PM EST (#164148) #
why do we need 45 days of Spring Training

The players needed it once upon a time. And they don't anymore. Why is that, anyway? Does your modern ballplayer have no sense of fun?

Nah. There's just too much at stake to spend the offseason drinking beer, going on cruises, and playing in celebrity golf tournaments!!

That's right. I blame it on the money.

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