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Heartbreak again as the Jays waste a fine start from Shaun Marcum and get swept in a pretty exciting series of baseball. Unless you're a Jays fan, that is.


After Jeremy Accardo gave up a run in the top of the ninth on Tuesday the Jays lost 9-8. Yesterday Accardo gave up four runs in the top of the ninth as the Jays lost 6-3. Today Brandon League did the Jays in, allowing two runs in the top of the twelfth, as the Jays lost 3-2. League didn't pitch terribly, and got a bunch of ground balls, he just had trouble finding the zone, walking three (1 intentionally) and hitting a batter in 1.2 innings. Equally at fault were the Jays' hitters. The Jays got two men on with two out in the bottom of the ninth before Marco Scutaro flied out, two men on with one out in the tenth before Vernon hit into a fielders choice and Thomas struck out, runners on first and third with one out in the eleventh before Scutaro and Eckstein grounded out, and had runners on first and second with one out and one run scored in the bottom of the twelfth before Hill GIDP'd to end the game.

On the whole, Marcum looked sharp, striking out eight in seven innings while only walking one. The Jays were done in by lefty Dana Eveland, making his eight career start. His fastball sat in the low nineties most of the night, topping out at about 92 if the Sportsnet gun is to believed. His breaking stuff was nearly unhittable, however, and he rung up both Frank Thomas and Vernon Wells looking with a nasty curveball that just caught the outside part of the plate both times. Only Shaun Marcum and Alan Embree prevented him from collecting the win. Brian Tallet was fantastic in relief, throwing two perfect innings and K'ing four, while only Wells and Rios (2 for 6 with a double, 2 for 6 with a double and a walk) had memorable nights at the plate.

In other news:

  • Rich Harden is going on the 15 day DL with a strained arm muscle. Its unclear when he'll be back.
  • Mike Lowell is also hitting the 15 day DL with a thumb injury. No word yet on how serious it is, and Sean Casey figures to fill in in the meantime.
  • Fausto Carmona signs a 4 year deal worth $15 million, which I believe takes him to his last year of arbitration. Much like the Aaron Hill deal, the Indians will have three option years, for $7 million in 2012, $9 million in 2013 and $14 million in 2014. It's a lot of money, and young pitchers, they'll break your heart. We'll see how it works out.
  • Detroit is 1-7 and has been outscored 58-28. Bonus points if you saw that coming.

Anyhow, we begin anew tonight in Arlington as Jesse Litsch (1-0, 3.60) and the Jays take on Vincente Padilla (1-0, 2.77) and the Rangers. First pitch at 8:05.


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Sister - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 08:34 AM EDT (#182518) #
27 men left on base last night is inexcusable.

The play of the Jays during this three game series with Oakland -- and the subsequent outcome -- has really broken my spirit.



timpinder - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 08:52 AM EDT (#182519) #
How long will Gibbons insist upon having Eckstein and Stewart at the top of the order?  It's time for Hill to be moved up.  He's a better hitter right now than either Eckstein or Stewart.  Eckstein may start hitting again eventually, but he should hit 9th until he comes around.  Also, I can't wait until Rolen returns.  His bat will be a big boost to this offence. 
Thomas - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 09:13 AM EDT (#182520) #
I'm curious as to the timing of the Wells/Carlson move. One could ask what the point of keeping Wells was, when he was on such a short leash that as soon as the team thought a spare arm was useful in the bullpen he was the one to go down. The best I can come up with is that maybe JP figured that once teams had set their 25-man rosters for opening day and their AAA rosters, it might be easier to work out a deal to keep Wells in the organization and avoid him being claimed on waivers.

John's right in the other thread that record in one-run games is partially a product of luck and that the Jays could easily have a better record than they do right now. However, luck or not, the Jays didn't win any of the games this series and if they're serious about contending they can't afford too many series where they are swept by mediocre teams (which Oakland looks to be, although I think they'll be better than some expect) at home.
Gwyn - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 09:15 AM EDT (#182521) #
Anyhow, we begin anew tonight in Arlington

My back of the envelope totting-up has the Jays at 5-16 in Arlington since 2003, 61 runs scored and 94 against.  
rotorose - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 09:22 AM EDT (#182522) #
Posts in this and previous threads have failed to highlight Gibbons' glaring error in the top of the 12th last night. Leaving 'Nuke Lalouche' League in to face Buck when the lefty Carlson was warmed and ready in the pen was inexcusable. After the damage was done, Carlson was finally brought in and struck out the next lefty in the Oakland lineup.
Chuck - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 09:43 AM EDT (#182523) #

Leaving 'Nuke Lalouche' League in to face Buck when the lefty Carlson was warmed and ready in the pen was inexcusable.

I would imagine that Gibbons was concerned that the two out, bases loaded situation might present too much pressure for the rookie, though he did manage to handle the pressure against Barton. Buck was certainly trouble waiting to happen, especially against an erratic League. On that I concur,

Another dubious decision, I thought, was using Stairs to pinch-hit for Barajas. Why not just have Zaun pinch-hit, since he had to come into the game anyway, and hold Stairs back for later. This would have made Stairs available to pinch-hit for Scutaro when the Jays needed a sac fly.

I don't want to jump on the anti-Eckstein bandwagon (other than to concur that I'd prefer to see him batting 9th), but in watching him this year I'm just amazed that he had any sac flies last year, to say nothing of homeruns. I haven't watched every minute of every game, far from it, but has Eckstein even flied out to an outfielder this year (not that I'd want to see Eckstein trying to hit fly balls)?

Anders - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 10:07 AM EDT (#182526) #
My back of the envelope totting-up has the Jays at 5-16 in Arlington since 2003, 61 runs scored and 94 against.  

And Vincente Padilla is 3-1 against the Jays in 4 starts since 2005, with an era of 3.25 in 27.2 innings. I just didn't want to be too pessimistic...
Mick Doherty - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 10:14 AM EDT (#182527) #
You won't recognize this Rangers team. They're 5-4 (Pythagorean also 5-4) -- over .500 under Ron Washington for the first time ever! -- after sweeping the Orioles in a twinbill last night. And they are third in the AL in ERA, though hovering near the bottom in runs scored. This is not the Rangers team of A-Rod, I-Rod and Juando (okay, those three were never teammates, but the all-pop, no pitch rep goes way back) ...
Mike Green - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 10:30 AM EDT (#182529) #
Another dubious decision, I thought, was using Stairs to pinch-hit for Barajas. Why not just have Zaun pinch-hit, since he had to come into the game anyway, and hold Stairs back for later. This would have made Stairs available to pinch-hit for Scutaro when the Jays needed a sac fly.

This was a similar decision to the one several games ago when Gibbons brought in Stewart rather than Barajas to pinch-hit for Zaun .  The common element is that with a short bench (12 pitchers and Coats), pinch-hitting and following with a defensive replacement who has significant offensive value should probably be a rare event.  Even pinch-hitting for Eckstein and subbing in McDonald may at times have a cost (leaving no back-up for Scutaro in case you want to pinch-hit for him later).

Really, the club cannot afford to have Coats on the bench now unless Gibbons is prepared to trust him to perform tasks such as key pinch-hitting duties. 
Frank Markotich - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 10:34 AM EDT (#182530) #

Chuck - I don't agree with your criticism of the Stairs pinch-hit decision. Actually, at the time I was afraid Gibbons was going to send Zaun up for Barajas and was happy to see Stairs there. Of course, the result wasn't good.

My thinking is that this is a game situation right now, and I want the best available guy in there. Waiting for a sac fly or other opportunity later - well, that opportunity may never come.

Frank Markotich - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 10:37 AM EDT (#182532) #
And Mike, your points about the short bench are valid and earlier in the game I have no dispute. But in the late innings with the game on the line you can't worry about that aspect.
John Northey - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 10:42 AM EDT (#182533) #
Seeing League brought out for a second inning concerned me as he seems like the classic one inning great then dead in the 2nd pitcher, which is what the Jays have been training him for (setup/closer). Still, pushing for a second inning this early makes some sense to see if he can do it, although one would hope they figured this one out by now.

The big issue right now, imo, is having Scutaro as your only real option at third. So far he is 148/343/222 and has played all but 3 innings at third. Meanwhile McDonald has been benched with a total of 12 innings played out of 82 potential innings with just 5 plate appearances in 3 games played out of 9. While I don't like either option at least do some mix and match while Rolen is out.

Through 9 games we now have the following playing every last inning... Hill, Wells, Rios. Hopefully all 3 get a day off soon as the Jays are now in their longest no break part of the schedule.
ryan_the_canuck - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 10:55 AM EDT (#182534) #

http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=234028&lid=sublink05&lpos=headlines_main

Ed Sprague admits to using, among other things, steroids and corked bats.

Mike Green - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 11:12 AM EDT (#182536) #
I am pretty sure that Stairs isn't 100%, and at this point, the difference between him and Zaun is probably not significant.  With runners on first and second and one out, he is right now a higher DP risk than Zaun.  As I said yesterday, I'd probably DL him.  There is no point in pushing a 40 year old.

Lefty - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 11:12 AM EDT (#182537) #
I see he's coaching college ball, so a tip of the cap to Ed.
Chuck - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 11:15 AM EDT (#182538) #
Chuck - I don't agree with your criticism of the Stairs pinch-hit decision. Actually, at the time I was afraid Gibbons was going to send Zaun up for Barajas and was happy to see Stairs there. Of course, the result wasn't good.

The (unlikely) Scutaro 8th inning triple notwithstanding, after Stairs' DP, shouldn't Gibbons have put McDonald into the 8th spot at 3B and Zaun into the 9th spot at catcher?
Pistol - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 11:19 AM EDT (#182539) #
It's a lot of money, and young pitchers, they'll break your heart. We'll see how it works out.

$15 million over 4 years for a top of the rotation pitcher is about a good as a deal as you'll get.  I imagine going year to year would have cost a lot more, and the first two options look good even if he's just an average starter.

It'd be nice to see McGowan and Marcum locked up now.  Speaking of Marcum - 14 innings, 16 Ks.  He was at 6.3 Ks/9 last year.

Anders - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 11:42 AM EDT (#182540) #
$15 million over 4 years for a top of the rotation pitcher is about a good as a deal as you'll get.  I imagine going year to year would have cost a lot more, and the first two options look good even if he's just an average starter.

They are basically buying out his three arbitration years for 14 mllion - certainly not too much money for a top of the line pitcher, I agree. However I believe this contract is now tied for the most guaranteed money ever given to a pre-arbitration eligible pitcher, and my point in general is that young pitchers develop in so many ways that any long term extension certainly has a chance to look foolish - all it takes is a Casey Janssen type of injury and the money's down the drain. The option years are indeed reasonable given what pitching costs these days, if Carmona remains a solid pitcher. I doubt he is as good as he was last year - his track record is good but not outstanding, but he certainly can be a good pitcher.
I do like the deal for the Indians - they have managed their risk well. There's just a much greater chance of injury with pitchers than position players, and long term contracts for pitchers have worked out poorly in recent memory.
ChicagoJaysFan - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 11:47 AM EDT (#182541) #
Ed Sprague admits to using, among other things, steroids and corked bats

2 down (Canseco plus Sprague) and 17 more to go.
SheldonL - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 12:00 PM EDT (#182542) #
I think when Halladay meant the lack of urgency, it showed when the Jays faced Mussina and Wakefield.

Mussinas fastball had absolutely no life and his breaking pitches were high and missing the strike zone. I think Halladay ( and I most certainly) would have preferred if the hitters got a little more aggressive at that point and swung hard at the hittable pitches instead of trying to coax out a walk.
I mean, there were plenty of hanging breaking balls that were like 3 inches above the zone - we're talking about as high as the navel.
And then Jamie Campbell talks about how the Jays are smart for trying to tax Mussina's arm by taking pitches so that they can get to the bullpen quicker!

That's ridiculous! I mean, we had him on the ropes and we didn't capitalize... he ended up being an out away from a quality start - and that start was anything but quality!

We had a similar situation with Wakefield... and we've had plenty of games in the past where young, unproven pitchers pitched gems because of our lack of aggressiveness.

I didn't see the last two games and I know Eveland's supposed to be a good prospect. But the guy the night before(Smith?) had 5 walks! I mean, surely, he was off his game, right? and we got nada that night!

I'm not saying that we should be swinging at every pitch a la Francoeur or Guerrero, I'm just saying that hanging breaking balls should be belted! Working the count makes sense when facing aces and top notch pitchers, but lesser pitchers should be hit and hit hard(of course, responsibly)!

I think that's what we mean when we say the Jays should beat up on the lesser teams like Boston and the Yankees do.
Magpie - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 12:35 PM EDT (#182545) #
Well, they beat Mussina. They would have beat him up worse but it wasn't for lack of aggressiveness. They had one inning end with a caught stealing. and they hit into a bunch of double plays (Wells, Barajas, Eckstein twice, and Thomas.)

Anyway, hitters are simple folk for the most part. They all go up there looking for the fastball. No one looks for a breaking ball (because then you can't catch up to the fastball). So they tend to let them breaking balls go unless they've already got two strikes or they were simply fooled by it.

Magpie - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 12:44 PM EDT (#182547) #
Working the count makes sense when facing aces and top notch pitchers

But those are the guys who tend to throw strikes. Nobody does this sort of thing better than the Yankees, but you don't see them try that with Roy Halladay. They work the count with Dustin McGowan. You try that with Halladay, or another real quality pitcher, and you're hitting 0-2 all night and the Doc is having your lunch. Next thing you know, it's the eighth inning, you're losing by three runs and Halladays's still thrown just 78 pitches. But against a young guy like, McGowan, you can get him out of the game after five, and roam around in the bullpen until you find the guy who doesn't have it tonight.
Mike Green - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 12:57 PM EDT (#182548) #
It is a sensible deal from the Indians' perspective.

The merits of locking up Marcum and McGowan, and at what cost, are tough to judge.  Let's take Marcum.  I like him, and always have.  Right now, he is pretty clearly an above-average starting pitcher.  There are very reasonable doubts about whether he will be able to pitch more than 160-170 innings per season.  He has 1 year and 128 days of service, and will be eligible for free-agency after 2012.  He will be turning 31 after that season.  It is completely unpredictable what his value then might be. The risk that Marcum will have no value at that point is much larger that is for a position player like Hill or Rios.

If the club could sign him (or McGowan or both) to a Carmona-lite deal, I'd be all in favour.  Four years at $13 million or something, with a club option following. 

ChicagoJaysFan - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 01:03 PM EDT (#182550) #
I haven't seen anyone comment yet, but Accardo's performance may not be due to bad luck right now, but instead the loss of a pitch (wonder how long Blair's been waiting to use that headline?).  He's only cost us one 1-run win, but when the pitcher that you end most games with is having trouble getting people out because he no longer has a splitter, 1-run losses can't be chalked up to luck quite that easily.

Mylegacy - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 01:24 PM EDT (#182553) #

The cup is more than half full.

Within the month; Rolen returns, Lind is screaming for a chance, a revitalized - hungry and determined JMac will have replaced Mighty Mite, the Ryan Express is getting ready to leave the station and a hungry Benetiz is near ready to contribute.

Houston - we have the tools, we have the technology - victory awaits our grasp. Gosh, it's great to be back in Canada!

Chuck - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 01:27 PM EDT (#182554) #

Tangentially related to Mike's comments, here is something interesting (at least to me) from BP.

I knew all about hitters peaking at 27. I didn't realize it was the same for pitchers (I had assumed it was older). The standard deviation being much bigger for the pitchers than the hitters is not surprising, however.

Chuck - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 01:30 PM EDT (#182556) #
The cup is more than half full.

Gentlemen, the sunshine has returned. Equilibrium has been restored to the site.
John Northey - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 02:27 PM EDT (#182561) #
Chuck, good link.

Looking at BP's numbers you can see that 10% or more of all hitters will peak between ages 25 and 29, while pitchers are between ages 25 and 28.

Of big time note: 92% of hitters and 89% of pitchers have peaked by age 31, and both have cracked 50% by age 27.  Less than 1% of hitters will peak from age 35 on, while for pitchers the 1% level is one year later.

So, for the contracts recently signed by the Jays what does this mean?

Odds of Rios having his career year already: 43%
Rios odds of having it between now and 2014: 54%
Odds of Hill having his career year already: 29%
Hill odds of having it between now and 2014: 66%

Not bad.  Suggests odds are we haven't seen the best of Hill while Rios is a 50-50 prospect on that front.

What I'd love to see is a 'when did they fall off the cliff' age study.  Basically taking guys who reached different WARP3 levels and when did they drop to no better than, say, 1 WARP3 in a season for the rest of their career.
ANationalAcrobat - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 03:04 PM EDT (#182562) #
2 down (Canseco plus Sprague) and 17 more to go You don't think Clemens is down? Benito Santiago is pretty much down as well.
ChicagoJaysFan - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 03:14 PM EDT (#182563) #

Tangentially related to Mike's comments, here is something interesting (at least to me) from BP.

I knew all about hitters peaking at 27. I didn't realize it was the same for pitchers (I had assumed it was older). The standard deviation being much bigger for the pitchers than the hitters is not surprising, however.

Interesting.  I wonder why the choice of using the lower age in the case of multiple peak seasons.  Depending on the purpose, I would think either the median or mean (assuming you can have more than 2 years tie as a peak) would be more appropriate - even oldest would be appropriate.  I assume the purpose of the study is to identify whether or not a player is likely to have a season as good or better than any previous seasons, in which case, I think choosing the youngest in the case of a tie is the poorest tie-breaking choice.

Without knowing how many of those ties occurred, it's hard to say to what degree, but there is a built-in bias towards a younger peak age.


chips - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 04:48 PM EDT (#182568) #
Don't forget Brad Fulmer. Remember how the veins would pop out of his body?
Mike Green - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 04:48 PM EDT (#182569) #
THT takes a page out of Mick's playbook.  Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery.
grjas - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 05:04 PM EDT (#182570) #
Gentlemen, the sunshine has returned.

Brother we need some:
  • 0-4 in one run games
  • a .211 hole in the line up (batters 8, 9, 1, 2)
  • AJ yo-yo'ing
  • RISP in the toilet
Beginning to sound like last year. Wait, wasn't 2007 a sunny summer?
ChicagoJaysFan - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 05:25 PM EDT (#182571) #
a .211 hole in the line up (batters 8, 9, 1, 2)

You're being generous on limiting the hole to those spots.  With a line-up with only 4 guys over 95 OPS+ (91 OPS+ is 5th highest on this team), I think it's easier to pick out the hot spots than the cold ones.  Combined with Eckstein having lost his ability to time hits just before other people's doubles, which some people seemed to imply would last forever, and we're struggling to score.
scottt - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 06:04 PM EDT (#182572) #
  • 0-4 in one run games
  • a .211 hole in the line up (batters 8, 9, 1, 2)
  • AJ yo-yo'ing
  • RISP in the toilet

Scutaro isn't Rolen. He can do some useful things, but he's nowhere near good enough to be a regular at the hot corner.

Stairs isn't hitting well. Could probably use some time off. Stewart isn't hitting much either. If we don't see improvement from these guys we'll see Lind in left field.
 
Overbay has been hitting ok. Nothing great. Terrible in the clutch. That should pick up.

Rios hasn't gone deep yet, but he's doing fine otherwise. Wells has been great and that's what really matters. Thomas can hit for .180, as long as he's getting RBIs.

When you consider that BJ could be returning soon, pitching is not looking  bad at all.

Let's see what they do in the next 5 games.




greenfrog - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 06:33 PM EDT (#182573) #
This is kind of a weird question, but what is the deepest ball Eckstein has hit this year? I don't mean to be sarcastic. I'm really just curious (I've watched about half of the games). Every ball I've seen has been a squibber, ground ball, popup, soft liner or shallow fly.
timpinder - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 07:00 PM EDT (#182574) #

Gibbons must have paid a visit to Batter's Box!

Aaron Hill is batting 2nd tonight.

Matt Stairs is the DH.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/baseball

grjas - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 07:16 PM EDT (#182575) #
Let's see what they do in the next 5 games.

Yeah I am far from throwing in the towel yet either. But the last few days have been as depressing as the weather. Hopefully both will be improving. Soon.
Ryan Day - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 07:34 PM EDT (#182576) #
I wonder how much that analysis really means. How many pitchers have a younger peak simply because they blow out their arms and aren't even pitching by the time they're 30? And along those lines, pitcher usage has changed a lot since 1947 - how much would the numbers change if you looked at the last 10 or 20 years?
scottt - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 09:37 PM EDT (#182581) #

Gibbons must have paid a visit to Batter's Box!

Aaron Hill is batting 2nd tonight.

Matt Stairs is the DH.


And Coats is in left field.

Did I just say Overbay was due for some clutch hitting?
SheldonL - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 11:32 PM EDT (#182586) #
Jason Frasor's out there trying to close this game out... are we gonna see him share the closing situations until Ryan gets back?
scottt - Friday, April 11 2008 @ 11:37 PM EDT (#182587) #
Jason Frasor's out there trying to close this game out... are we gonna see him share the closing situations until Ryan gets back?

I don't think it was a save opportunity and he kinda blew it. So, no. Just trying to save some arms for tomorrow.

I'm pretty sure Accardo would have come in if Down had let some runs scored.


Lefty - Saturday, April 12 2008 @ 02:13 AM EDT (#182588) #
Four stolen bases tonight. Including Rios with his fourth and Zaun with his second. Jays seem to be running wild early this season. Clearly they were taking advantage of opportunity tonight, but last season they wouldn't have forced the issue.
China fan - Saturday, April 12 2008 @ 07:54 AM EDT (#182589) #
     Buck Coats has been demoted to the farm, and Joe Inglett has been called up.   Inglett has been on fire this year, batting .385 with Syracuse, so let's hope he can stay hot in the majors.  It seems odd that a guy with a career OBP of .375 in the minors has never been given much of a chance in the majors (except for 200 ABs in 2006 with Cleveland).  Maybe, at the age of 29, this is finally the break-through opportunity that he deserved.   More realistically, maybe Inglett's presence on the bench will encourage Gibbons to bring in John McDonald more often as a late-inning replacement for Eckstein.   Inglett might also deserve an occasional start ahead of Scutaro at 3B, although he hasn't played much 3B in his career.
scottt - Saturday, April 12 2008 @ 08:01 AM EDT (#182590) #
5 strike out for Litsch. Not bad at all.

Next  we get Halladay and Burnett against a couple of minor league pitchers, than we go to Baltimore to see what their 6th starter is like. Could be a lot worse.

CeeBee - Saturday, April 12 2008 @ 09:35 AM EDT (#182592) #
Litsch continues to defy the odds, at least in many peoples opinion but considering his age and his lack of upper minor league experience maybe it's not so suprising after all. Obviously, time will tell but to me he's looking more and more like a fixture in the rotation and a possible innings eater who can more than hold his own in the 5th spot and maybe higher.
John Northey - Saturday, April 12 2008 @ 10:33 AM EDT (#182593) #
I hope Inglett is used at third as Scutaro has really, really, really stunk to this point both on offense and defense. 

Inglett, in the minors lifetime (not counting this year), has played 33 games at third to go with 330 at 2B, 123 in the OF, and 42 at SS.

Over 670 games in the minors he has hit 301/375/418, AAA  290/351/408 over 242 games.  His major league numbers are 291/338/398 90 OPS+.  This is a guy who should be a useful part on the bench.  Left handed hitter too so a platoon with Scutaro until Rolen is back makes a lot of sense.

timpinder - Saturday, April 12 2008 @ 10:52 AM EDT (#182595) #

A platoon with Scutaro is a good idea.  I was wondering why they decided to send Coats down and recall Inglett, but that makes a lot of sense.  Any word on how Rolen is progressing?

I'm wondering what the thought is on Stairs' stint at DH last night.  A one time shake-up, or will we see Stairs getting a lot of at-bats as the DH against RHP with Stewart in LF?  I know I've said it before, but I'd like to see a DH platoon.  I think it would make the team better (Thomas had an OPS of .796 against RHP last year) and of course there's the 376 plate appearances.  If Snider's not ready next year, maybe left-handed hitting Delgado might return for a DH stint?  Either way, I don't have much confidence in Thomas against RHP, and I'd hate to see $10 million spent on a platoon worthy DH in 2009.

Mike Green - Saturday, April 12 2008 @ 11:19 AM EDT (#182596) #
Lind has 145 days of service time according to Cot's.  It makes no difference for free agency eligibility whether he is called up now or in July.  He is in a completely different situation from Longoria, as Chuck points out.  Longoria is 21, and 3 weeks in the minors will delay his free agency eligibility a year. 

The Jays actually optimize their length of pre-free agency time with Lind by calling him up early in the season.  You want to have 5.145 (5 years and 145 days of service) going into the last year, rather than 5.003.

greenfrog - Saturday, April 12 2008 @ 12:21 PM EDT (#182597) #
I think the Lind situation is pretty straightforward. He's in Syracuse to give him consistent playing time and to allow him to refine his skills. He obviously wasn't ready last year (although he did look better in September). If Stairs, Stewart or Thomas is injured or goes through a prolonged slump, I think Lind will get called up. But the team seems to want to keep him in AAA until he's ready to join the big club for good.
timpinder - Saturday, April 12 2008 @ 12:27 PM EDT (#182599) #

Thanks Mike G.  Ricciardi has often said he likes to see his prospects, "force our hand".  If Lind keeps this up for a couple more weeks and Thomas continues to flail, perhaps we'll see a Stairs/Thomas platoon DH, Lind as the regular LF, and Stewart as a valuable 4th outfielder/pinch hitter sooner rather than later.  I think the lineup would be much improved against RHP with three solid left-handed hitters in it rather than two (Zaun's actually better against LHP, so I'm not including him).

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