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The Toronto branch of the BBWAA held a meeting today and AA and Paul Besston joined the writers to answer questions. Gregor Chisholm at MLB.Com has posted a full transcript at his blog. AA discussed the roster in light of the winter meetings next week.

The first thing that caught my attention was that the Jays don't appear to be in the market for another position player.

Q- When you say you’re down to two or three free agents, you’re talking pitchers?

“Ideally. Right now we’re not in the market for any free-agent position players.”

The outfield will be Melky, Rasmus and Bautista. Bonifacio and Davis will be backups. The Jays still have hope for Rasmus:

“We’ve talked about it internally, what went wrong and so on. We think there could be a component of fatigue. He played all the time and one of the issues is that he hits all the time. I remember being in Miami and he had a good game against the Marlins, it was on a Saturday, I think he hit a home run or even two in the game. Afterwards, we played a day game, players were going to go out that night and enjoy themselves. He was going to go to the cage and hit. He just wanted to keep going.

“One thing we’re going to talk to him about is maybe learning to work a little smarter. He doesn’t need to work as hard as he does. He doesn’t need to take as many reps in the cage. It seems like now two years in a row he wears down at the end of the season and maybe we have to watch, give him some rest, give him some days off. We were so banged up from a position-player’s standpoint, we didn’t have that much depth on the bench.

“Colby didn’t necessarily get a tonne of days off. He was banged up as well. It’s not to make excuses for him. It’s the only thing that we can point to, that he did seem to wear down and tire, because the first half of the season he played so well.”

The infield will be Encarnacion, Izturis, Reyes and Lawrie. AA had a couple of relevant comments here:

Q- How does second base shape up?

“I think Izturis is the front runner. He hasn’t been promised the everyday job so there’s definitely potential to compete there. Izturis would certainly be the front runner for that spot. Bonifacio’s value is that he can play second, can play all the outfield spots, can play the other infield spots as well.


“I think Encarnacion has gotten to the point where he became the everyday first baseman at the end of the year … I think Encarnacion emerged as the everyday guy at first base but between first and DH we have enough guys that can play there.”

Arencibia, Buck and Wilson are in play for the catcher spots. The team has to offer him arbitration on Friday, a decision to be made per AA. If he is offered arb then there is a chance a catcher could be traded. If he is designated them a trade is unlikely.

AA was somewhat non-committal on signing a starter but if they do it's Happ who would be bumped:

. But we’d have to feel that anybody we get, especially if we’re going to guarantee them a contract, they’re going to want the opportunity to start, that they would be an upgrade over the current five.

“So the likelihood is that a minor-league free-agent signing, probably try to be more active there. I think if you see us give a guaranteed contract to a starter that’s going to be someone we think is going to beat out someone in the current rotation or would be willing to compete and end up in the ‘pen. And some of those guys want a guaranteed starting spot.”

Any major league free agent who signs with the Jays will want to be guaranteed a starting job, a la Villanueva. Happ was not been guaranteed a job so he is on the bubble.

The Jays will add some minor league free agents, AA says he needs 11 starters. Today he has five, plus Cecil and Jenkins. He needs up to four more, I would guess one at the major league level and three minor league free agents.

Among other things in the interview:

Marlins trade: Johnson knew he would be traded; Buck is happy to come back here. Reyes and Buehrle are angry with the Marlins. AA has received trade calls on all of them.

The Marlins trade was off until the Jays agreed to include Mathis for Buck.

Dustin McGowan is not throwing yet.

The Jays have told Bautista not to play winter ball and have denied him permission to play in the WBC, for now.

Adam Lind is on notice:

But Adam still has to earn his spot and he still has to earn his at-bats. We’re trying to win and if someone is going to be an upgrade over Adam in the lineup and he has to be on the bench then we’ll look at it.

....if you look at him as a player that doesn’t face the left-handers, he’ll only face right-handers, close to an .800 OPS, which is a pretty good player.

“We’ve had a lot of conversations with him. I think he’s learning himself as well. He had the back issue, he overworked trying to strengthen it and maintain it and then over time he started getting sore. We changed some of the exercises. You’re learning yourself and what learns for you and I think there was some concern that maybe he was five or 10 pounds more weight than maybe he should have been. He has to watch that as well.

“But I think Adam now understands where he’s at in his career. I think he’s encouraged as well with how he ended the year but I think he realizes where he’s at and what he needs to do to stay on the field and stay healthy.”

“It’s going to depend on everything but obviously Encarnacion is the everyday player, how many days a week he’s at first or DH I don’t know. Whether it’s a d’Arnaud, a Cooper, an Adam Lind, all those guys can play first base so however it works out Encarnacion is one guy that has every day at-bats. Who gets the everyday at-bats from the remaining three, Adam Lind because he ended the season as the everyday player and he played well is certainly the front-runner for that job, but he’s not promised that job. He still has to come out through spring training and earn that job.”

There is lots more in the transcript.

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John Northey - Wednesday, November 28 2012 @ 11:37 PM EST (#266297) #
Wait a minute... for first base he lists d’Arnaud? Interesting. Wonder if his injuries have made the Jays debate moving him away from the plate and to 1B instead.

If he could play everyday in the majors as a DH/3rd catcher/1B then he'd add a lot of options for Gibbons that's for sure. But would it be best for his development to be in the majors at DH/1B and once in a while behind the plate, or would it be better to be an everyday catcher in AAA. Hard to say. Still, interesting that AA puts him in the DH/1B mix.
eudaimon - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 12:02 AM EST (#266298) #
D'Arnaud at 1b might be an option if he hits his way into the ML roster in spring training - and Arencibia is still around. I suspect they still see him as a catcher, but it's good to know that they also think he currently has the versatility to start at 1b if they feel he's the best option.

Interesting indeed.

I suspect AA isn't done with trading this offseason. I wouldn't be surprising to see Arencibia, Buck, or Johnson moved if a good opportunity arises.
Jevant - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 12:33 AM EST (#266299) #
Buerhle could certainly go in a deal for a replacement starter. How about Buerhle/Buck for Smyly/something?
hypobole - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 08:13 AM EST (#266300) #
Porcello is the starter the Tigers are trying to deal. He needs a good infield defense which the Tigers know they don't have.
Jevant - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 08:31 AM EST (#266301) #

But *I* don't want Porcello (and I hope AA doesn't either...I don't see him as any better than Happ).  Smyly looks like he is.

Tigers also need a C that can hit LHP (Avila...not so good).  We've got a few of those.  I think there's some decent chances for a match, especially if the Tigers lose Sanchez and want a more veteran presence.

Magpie - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 08:34 AM EST (#266302) #
The Marlins trade was off until the Jays agreed to include Mathis for Buck

To quote Anthopoulos directly, he said:

So in the morning I said, “No.” The trade was off. If that was what was going to take to get it done, I would not make that trade. And we shut it down. They were pretty adamant that it wasn’t getting done without those two players...

That's kind of ... what's the word I'm looking for?
John Northey - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 08:44 AM EST (#266303) #
One wonders what Mathis does that makes him so amazingly valuable in AA's mind. The staff didn't see that many improvements in long time guys last year - Morrow is all I can think of... Villanueva showed promise but it died off quick, Janssen had a good year, but Romero fell off a cliff. The team ERA with Mathis catching was 4.39 vs 4.76 for JPA, still... one wonders how Mathis is so important with that horrid bat and defense that appears good but not great. I don't recall him being particularly amazing at framing pitches (can't find the info right now), or blocking balls or throwing out runners (41% is very good, but lifetime is just 26%).

Ah well. Whatever.
Mike Green - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 08:53 AM EST (#266304) #
strange, obstinate, foolish, loco...
Jevant - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 09:03 AM EST (#266306) #

It's nuts.

At the same time, JPA and Buck are pretty much the same player, and Buck's salary limits your flexibility.  Throw in the fact that with Mathis you get plus defence (IE, a nice complement to JPA), and the fact that AA had just extended him (I think that was a big reason why the reluctance...AA doesn't seem like the type to enjoy extending and then immediately trading, unlike the Marlins), and that's my best guess at the reluctance.

But still doesn't justify it.

Gerry - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 09:05 AM EST (#266307) #
I think AA was thinking "we just signed Mathis to a two year deal, and told him how much we love him, how can I now trade him after that?".   I assume he was concerned about the precedent, how it looks to other guys they want to sign.  It might not have been as tough a decision at he makes it out to be, he might be positioning himself.
Mike Green - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 09:14 AM EST (#266308) #
It's a bit over-the-top.  Couldn't he have just said something like: "we were very reluctant to trade Jeff...we had just signed him to a two-year contract because we really liked the way he handled our pitchers and developed as a hitter last year...but the Marlins insisted that they really wanted him and sometimes you have to give up something you want to keep in order to get something else you want to get..."

Damn, GM-speak is irritating, isn't it?

Richard S.S. - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 09:14 AM EST (#266309) #

Adam Lind doesn't see David Cooper as a challenge, nor do I, so I don't know how motivated he would be.  Mention your Number One stud prospect at first base and that will motivate Lind.   A.A will mention needing Pitching, but not position players.    Those acquisitions will be more on the lines of "look what I found".   We assume d"Arnaud can hit, but we don't know.   We assume he can still be a Catcher (where most of his value is), but we don't know.   We have Travis d'Arnaud, J.P. Arencibia, John Buck and Bobby Wilson as Catchers.  We assume either J.P. Arencibia or John Bucke will be traded, but we don't know.  A.A. will tender Wilson a contract (not guarenteed) and cut him / DFA / outright? him in Spring Training, because he needs the depth at the position.   I believe A.A. wants Buck as J.P.'s backup - an upgrade on Jeff Mathis.   If A.A. moves a Catcher, it will be for a starter.

In this article , this was said.

"I think we're in good shape. I still think we can make more trades involving prospects, and assuming we don't trade everybody, still have a pretty good group of players," Anthopoulos said.

"We're still going to be active in Latin America going forward, we're still going to have a top Draft pick again, there are still ways to replenish. We built up enough inventory that we could handle one more big trade if we needed to."

A.A. moved a MLB Starter in Henderson Alvarez - in return two MLB Starters came back, either of which are a significant upgrade, this year and probably next, on Alvarez.  When you include everything else that went in the Deal, you should realize Johnson and Buehrle are going nowhere.   Magic happens around A.A., just don't always expect it.

Richard S.S. - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 09:17 AM EST (#266310) #
Mathis' value came if A.A. had J.P., Buck and Mathis - then J.P. gets moved for sure.
Jevant - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 09:24 AM EST (#266312) #

A.A. moved a MLB Starter in Henderson Alvarez - in return two MLB Starters came back, either of which are a significant upgrade, this year and probably next, on Alvarez.  When you include everything else that went in the Deal, you should realize Johnson and Buehrle are going nowhere.   Magic happens around A.A., just don't always expect it.

I'm really not getting how you get to "you should realize that Johnson and Buerhle are going nowhere".  Considering the whole trade started with a goal of getting Johnson, I would agree it's unlikely that Johnson is moved, but I don't really see how we make the leap to "neither of them are going nowhere".

whiterasta80 - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 09:35 AM EST (#266313) #
The reluctance to move Mathis definitely stems from having just signed Mathis and not wanting to gain a reputation as someone who's word isn't worth anything. Its the only logical explanation and it is consistent with everything we know about AA.

D'Arnaud should be in AAA to start the year playing 75% at C and 25% at 1B (or 3B for that matter). But I like that we are exploring options to upgrade if Lind, or Rasmus, or anyone else falter to start the year. It means we won't leave things too late.
MatO - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 09:39 AM EST (#266314) #
It's been jokingly called the Jeff Mathis trade.  Turns out it was no joke.
Ryan Day - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 09:55 AM EST (#266315) #
The comment about Mathis seems particularly relevant given that Buehrle & Reyes have both complained about the Marlins lying to them. Anthopoulos wants to affirm that he's not the sort of GM to treat players like trading cards.

There's also the other side of the Mathis-Buck deal to consider: Anthopoulos probably didn't want Buck, or his salary, but he can't very well announce that publicly.
MatO - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 10:06 AM EST (#266316) #
AA stated on McCown's show just after the trade was officially announced that the Marlins sent the Jays $4.5M to make up for the difference in salaries between Buck and Mathis (plus another $4M or so).  This makes it a strange deal for the Marlins since they're not saving any money unless they value Mathis or the second year of his deal so much.
greenfrog - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 10:59 AM EST (#266318) #
Another possible factor: AA may have envisioned an Arencibia/Mathis combo to start 2013, with Mathis as the best catcher to eventually help mentor d'Arnaud. Thus, you would have an orderly transition as follows:

1. Arencibia/Mathis (to start 2013)
2. Trade Arencibia (possibly at the trade deadline or after the season)
3. Promote d'Arnaud as the new starting catcher, with Mathis assuming a significant role as defensive mentor/backup C

Having to include Mathis and take on Buck messes with this plan. The Jays acquire salary and a mediocre player in Buck, and lose Mathis's defense and mentorship ability.
ayjackson - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 11:13 AM EST (#266320) #

This is the money quote to me.  The question was about signing one-year FA starters trying to rebuild value.

We would. The problem is those players probably want guaranteed contracts, so it comes down to, the rotation the way it’s set up — whatever the order is, but, Buehrle, Johnson, Romero, Morrow, Happ — all those guys are, no one’s a zero-three player in terms of service time. We said from the outset we weren’t going to guarantee Happ that fifth spot.

I think the FA is the fall back position.  What he's trying to do is upgrade Happ (bump to bullpen) with a prearb starter (eg. Anderson, Ogando, Holland, Bauer) that addresses 2013 needs as well as the future bridge to our propsect pool.  I think it's a good strategy.

hypobole - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 11:14 AM EST (#266321) #
The Mathis part of the trade as related by AA is truly bizarre. Over and above the Jays reluctance to part with Mathis, the Marlins, attempting to shed almost $200 million in salary, refuse to budge until he is included in the deal.
Jevant - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 11:27 AM EST (#266322) #


THURSDAY: The status of the trade remains unclear, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports (Twitter links). One of Rosenthal's sources says the deal isn't done and multiple teams are in the mix for Lopez. Another person said it would be a two for one trade, potentially with right-hander Tyler Cloyd going to Houston. The clubs have discussed the Phillies' young catchers, according to Rosenthal.

I really hope that AA can get in on Lopez.  3 years of control, great K/BB rates, good groundball rates.  Would be a nice addition to the bullpen.

Jevant - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 11:28 AM EST (#266324) #
I agree, although I'd still love to see Shaun Marcum or Brandon McCarthy here on a 1 or 2 year deal.
Gerry - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 11:58 AM EST (#266328) #

Anthony Alford has been arrested on campus and charged with assault.

His football team has lost 12 straight games.

The head coach was fired this week.

His mother was charged earlier in the season with disorderly conduct for defending her son from criticism.

Alford himself leads the team in several offensive categories.

But will this be enough for him to commit to baseball?

Ryan Day - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 12:06 PM EST (#266329) #
Alternately, do we want Alford to commit to baseball at this point? According to the story, another student was arrested for possession of a handgun in the same incident, though it's not clear whether he was associated with Alford.

Alford was charged with aggravated assault, which suggests more than a run-of-the-mill altercation.
greenfrog - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 12:16 PM EST (#266331) #
Well, AA has said that he's willing to give anyone a second chance - just not a third or fourth one.

The Alford signing is unusual, to be sure. It seems as though football is his real passion. I guess the Jays think there is a fair chance that he switches to baseball full-time in the next couple of years.
MatO - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 12:46 PM EST (#266334) #

I'll be surprised if Alford isn't playing baseball full-time soon assuming he gets over his troubles.  I think his days at Southern Mississippi are over and to transfer to another school would cost him a year I believe

Richard S.S. - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 01:05 PM EST (#266338) #

I believe that if you trade a Player with a deferred signing bonus, you must include that sum in a trade as it is considered "pre-trade monies".   Buehrle had a $4.0 MM signing bonus deferred.   Plus the Marlins reluctantly kicked in the $4.5 MM in salary difference between Buck and Mathis.    And say $8.5 MM.

As for Alford, he choses Baseball and keeps his nose clean or chooses his Football career.   Pick one.

Radster - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 01:13 PM EST (#266340) #
I had thought that the additional $4M was to cover the cost of Reyes' option, rather than the difference in the catchers' salaries.
Magpie - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 01:16 PM EST (#266341) #
Alternately, do we want Alford to commit to baseball at this point?

Is it possible he's been playing football without a helmet? It would explain a lot.
MatO - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 01:45 PM EST (#266345) #
AA said on McCown's show that they received $4.5M for the difference in salaries between Buck and Mathis and a total of more than $8M (he woudln't say the exact amount) including the $4.5M.
Ryan Day - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 01:46 PM EST (#266346) #
A few more details in the university paper:
After further investigation, Alford was identified as a “principal in the incident” and arrested for aggravated assault.

“The aggravated assault charge is the result of a weapon being used in a threatening manner,” Hopkins said. “It’s a little early to say who the gun belonged to.”
mathesond - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 01:56 PM EST (#266347) #
"As for Alford, he choses Baseball and keeps his nose clean or chooses his Football career. Pick one."

So, picking football and keeping his nose clean isn't an option? Or picking baseball and getting his nose dirty?
Mike Green - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 01:58 PM EST (#266349) #
How about picking his nose and keeping his baseball and football clean? 
greenfrog - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 02:13 PM EST (#266350) #
How about cleaning out his locker and picking up a baseball bat?
vw_fan17 - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 02:22 PM EST (#266351) #
I think AA will tender Wilson a contract to keep him off the market until spring training. With one less backup catcher on the market, more overall demand for catchers, and a better chance to trade JPA/JB for something useful.
Chuck - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 04:53 PM EST (#266359) #

Damn, GM-speak is irritating, isn't it?

Anthopolous plays it so close to the vest and chooses his language so carefully that his messages are all too often vague and undecipherable. I understand his need to behave in this way, but it means that asking him a question and expecting a clear answer is a fool's errand.

Parsing the potential subtext of his utterances has grown tiresome as a sport.

Again, I don't blame him since he feels he needs to act this way to effectively do his job. It just means that there's little value in getting thrilled about hearing him speak. He may as well be reading verbatim from Joyce's Ulysess for all the meaning he will be successfully conveying.

boz - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 06:00 PM EST (#266361) #
Does anyone know why the organization had a hate on for Mike McDade and dropped him from the roster?
Mike Green - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 06:33 PM EST (#266362) #
Chuck, there is thoughtful obscure GM-speak which is both understandable and irritating.  Anthopoulos' quote on the Mathis-Buck part of the deal was direct and made him look like a bit of an idiot, perhaps in a Woody Allenish way..."I'm such a zhlub that I would have passed on the deal of a career because the Marlins wanted Jeff Mathis".  I want more Pierre Trudeau ("the Marlins wanted Jeff Mathis and I thought what the fuddle duddle, if they really want Jeff Mathis that much, who am I to stand in their way") and less Woody Allen in my GM. 
Mark - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 07:05 PM EST (#266363) #
Concerning Mathis I think it was pretty clear why he didn't want to trade him.  AA said they just committed to each other for two years this past summer and he didn't want to trade him after Mathis made that commitment to the Jays. He is making it clear that he wants to appear loyal to Mathis for his commitment to the team.  I'm sure he doesn't want other players/agents to  bring it up in future negotiations (the Jays don't give no trade clauses). AA went out of his to make himself (the Jays) look like they had no choice but to trade a guy they just signed to a multi-year deal 4 months ago.
Four Seamer - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 07:28 PM EST (#266365) #
In taking a two year deal, isn't a player of the calibre of Mathis really jumping at two years of guaranteed paychecks, more than the opportunity to hitch his wagon to Toronto (or any other city, for that matter) for the short-to-medium term?  In other words, are potential free agents really likely to be outraged that a complementary player was given an element of wage security and then some time later dealt to a team that plays in a jurisdiction which, incidentally enough, has no state income tax?  And if so, how mollified would they be somewhat indecipherable remarks from the GM at an off-season event with no profile outside the home market?
Thomas - Thursday, November 29 2012 @ 09:33 PM EST (#266370) #
Does anyone know why the organization had a hate on for Mike McDade and dropped him from the roster?

Preferring one prospect to another constitutes getting a "hate on?"

And the answer is because he's not going to be taken in the Rule 5 draft.

Richard S.S. - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 12:34 AM EST (#266374) #

Dustin McGowan might be the next person moved from the 40-Man Roster should a space be needed.

I've noticed most reports / stories about the Jays pre-splurge Budget say it was $80.0 MM (a nice neat number) ignoring the Cot's 2012: $83,739,200.   I believe it was $85.0 MM, plus whatever increase in funds (discusses earlier this offseason) A.A. intially had.   It's just possible, with the $8.5 MM Miami kicked in, A.A's ceiling is a lot closer to $135.0 MM than it is to $125.0MM.   Excluding Arby for Happ, Wade, Wilson, Rasmus and Bonifacio (approx. $12.9 MM), Toronto has $104.4 MM in guaranteed contracts (includes McGowan, Drabek, Hutchison, Perez as on 60-man DL at season end so still MLB salary) or approx. $117.3 MM total.


TamRa - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 12:47 AM EST (#266377) #
well, here's a development:

prospect Anthony Alford has been arrested and charged with aggravated assault following a fight Wednesday morning on the campus of the University of Southern Mississippi.

According to the University police department, Alford -- a freshman quarterback at the school and a third round draft pick by the Blue Jays in the 2012 amateur draft -- and another student engaged in a fight that involved two guns.

The university's newspaper, The Student Printz, reported Thursday the two men were held in Forrest County Jail without bond Wednesday night.

Both Alford and the other student arrested have been placed on interim suspension, with expulsion a possibility, according to the university's dean of students.

Richard S.S. - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 06:03 AM EST (#266379) #
If you consider 6.0 or more IP with 3 or fewer ER as effective pitching, and 7.0 or more IP with 2 or fewer ER as very good pitching, and 8.0 IP with 1 ER as excellent pitching, then let me give you an example.  I will leave you to do the work as I did.   My premise is Josh Johnson could have been a 22-6 pitcher last year instead of 8-14, with better offense, and nothing more.   (I believe we have better defense on this Team which might have helped last year).   Do you agree?
Jevant - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 08:56 AM EST (#266384) #
Yup.  I would not be surprised to see him have a cup of coffee in Toronto at some point this year, actually.
Mike Green - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 09:24 AM EST (#266390) #
A cup of coffee for McDade, Alford, McGowan or Josh Johnson?  If the latter, I concur.  He might even get a shot at the rotation if he gets really hot in spring training!
Jevant - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 09:31 AM EST (#266392) #

McDade...did it not thread properly?

It was in response to the comment that McDade wasn't "hated" or whatever...just dropped because he won't be selected in Rule 5, and someone had to go.

JB21 - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 10:43 AM EST (#266396) #

Has anybody seen the NY Post this morning? If not, please see below. I would've preferred "Pasta Diving Eater", but this is pretty good.


Mike Green - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 12:33 PM EST (#266398) #
I do like the "takes the fork in the road to recovery" line though.  They could make a movie- Men In Pinstripes.
finch - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 01:10 PM EST (#266400) #
My personal favorite is, "What the Buc!" directly underneath it. Classic front page!
whiterasta80 - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 01:28 PM EST (#266401) #
Since when was Jordan Walden worth Tommy Hanson?

That is all.
Jevant - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 01:32 PM EST (#266402) #

The only logical explanation is that the Braves know a lot more about Tommy Hanson than we all do.  And they must know something terrible.  Or else the last word of my previous sentence doubles to accurately describe this deal for the Braves.

sam - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 01:33 PM EST (#266403) #
According to MLBTR, the Tigers will not tender Daniel Schlereth a contract next year.  He is yet to be arbitration eligible.  After being a high pick, traded, and rocketing through the minors, he put up respectable numbers in 2010 and 2011.  There has always perhaps been a bit more there as he does have control issues, but features strong backend bullpen stuff from the left side.  In his career in the majors he has held LHB to a .213/.320/.368 line, striking out 43 to 21 BB.  He was hampered last season by shoulder issues, which Marc Hulet rightly predicted a few years back and will likely see some reduction in his plus fastball should he return to health this upcoming season.  There are obvious control issues, but much like Jeremy Jeffress, that sort of fastball and stuff, especially from the left side does not grow on trees.  I think he's worth a tender of a contract.

whiterasta80 - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 01:37 PM EST (#266404) #
Jevant, I am sure you are right about the injury concerns.

Even still I think that they should have gotten more.
To me this trade looks like the Braves know something, they told the Angels, and then the Angels made their best offer based on the information they got from the Braves.
Thomas - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 01:37 PM EST (#266405) #
Since Atlanta decided Tommy Hanson wasn't ever going to remain healthy. I think there's a pretty reasonable chance that Atlanta gets more value from this trade than Anaheim, although the upside for Anaheim should Hanson hold up is pretty big. But, the next time I hear something good about Hanson's health will be the first time.
Nigel - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 02:25 PM EST (#266407) #

Hanson's fastball has completely disappeared in the last few years.  I watched one start last year in August and he was sitting 87-88 on his fastball.  The current Tommy Hanson isn't the same one that was a top prospect.  Whether he can get his fastball back will determine if there's any significant upside left.

JB21 - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 02:43 PM EST (#266408) #
I believe when he was moved to the pen he was back to mid 90's though.
Shaker - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 02:53 PM EST (#266409) #
speaking of mlbtraderumors...I do love me some Michael Morse...

Icing. On. Cake.

Mike Green - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 03:32 PM EST (#266410) #
McDade was apparently claimed off waivers by the Indians.
Gerry - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 04:13 PM EST (#266411) #

Sad to see McDade go.  But the Jays may see more of this in future years as the farm system develops players deserving of a spot.

The choice at the end seemed to come down to McDade or Ryan Goins.  Protecting AJ Jimenez was a no brainer and players like Esmil Rogers, Moises Sierra and Jeremy Jeffress ranked ahead of McDade.  McDade happens to play at the easiest position to find players, which isn't a knock against him, but it explains why he wasn't protected.

The other players that could be dropped off the 40 man is Dustin McGowan.  But because of his tenure he may be able to declare free agency or be claimed by another team.  There are always teams who can stash a long shot away at the end of their roster.

If the Jays do sign a free agent starting pitcher, Ryan Goins might be the one dropped from the roster.

dan gordon - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 04:59 PM EST (#266412) #

No surprise to see McDade get scooped.  I was surprised when there were a few posters here who thought he wouldn't get taken.  I think McDade has a decent chance at a pretty good mlb career, looking at what he produced, compared to his age.  I would certainly have taken Bobby Wilson off the 40 man to make room for McDade.  The Jays have made some great moves this off season, but this is a significant mistake, IMO. 

Mike Green - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 05:03 PM EST (#266413) #
Jack Moore says that the break-even point for the stolen base is now 66 per cent due to the run environment.  The Jays were at an even 75 per cent last year in 164 attempts; with the additions of Reyes, Bonifacio and Izturis, they are likely to be more efficient and more prolific in 2013. 
Mike Forbes - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 05:22 PM EST (#266414) #
It's non tender day! Players not tendered a contract today will become free to sign with whomever they want. Some interesting names to watch are Mark Reynolds, Mike Pelfrey and our own, Bobby Wilson.

Glad to see they moved the deadline up a month. Never seen the point of waiting until late December.
Chuck - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 05:36 PM EST (#266415) #

the break-even point for the stolen base is now 66 per cent due to the run environment.  The Jays were at an even 75 per cent last year in 164 attempts

I'd like to see the team-level success rates where each stolen base is examined in isolation to consider the base/out scenario.

A team with a 55% success rate could still theoretically be more than breaking even if all their steal attempts come with 2 outs and a man on first since the break-even rate in such instances is quite low.

Conversely, a team with a 75% success rate could be below breaking even if all their steal attempts come with 0 outs and a man on second base since the break-even rate in such instances is quite high.

I imagine we'd find that each team's stolen bases are fairly scattered across all the base/out scenarios making the over all break-even rate of 66% a close enough proxy to gauge their success. But it would still be interesting to see a more detailed analysis at the team level.

sam - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 05:45 PM EST (#266416) #
I wouldn't fret too much on McDade.  I got to see him a few times these past few years and he was never the prospect that would "wow" you with any particular tool, nor did he seem average at others.  Especially for the position he plays, he seemed to lack elite bat speed and power.  Whereas someone like David Cooper lacks  elite bat speed, he is a good striker of the pitched baseball and tends to barrel up a lot of pitches.  McDade never did enough of this for me and simply didn't ever strike me as a "feared" bat.  In this past year, I saw him work the count more frequently, yet he still tended to strike out a lot.  Too often it seemed a game would go by and he would have really only one, maybe two at-bats that could be considered productive.  I wish him the best, but I don't see him becoming the valuable commodity at 1B. 

Thomas - Friday, November 30 2012 @ 07:39 PM EST (#266419) #
I was surprised when there were a few posters here who thought he wouldn't get taken.

I don't recall too many posters suggesting there wasn't a risk he'd be claimed now. Most posters who commented on it opined he wouldn't get taken in the Rule 5 draft.

dan gordon - Saturday, December 01 2012 @ 12:06 AM EST (#266420) #

Rule 5 or on waivers now, the point is he's gone, and some posters were saying the Jays wouldn't lose him.

As far as the anecdotal stuff about what he looks like as a hitter, I've never been a believer in that kind of analysis, unless you're one of the very best talent evaluators around.  Give me the numbers way ahead of an opinion based on seeing a guy play a few games.

Dr B - Saturday, December 01 2012 @ 01:51 AM EST (#266421) #
I know I was one of the people who said McDade wouldn't get claimed, and I was thinking of the Rule 5, but I guess I didn't really think of or understand that he could just be taken on waivers.

Give me the numbers way ahead of an opinion based on seeing a guy play a few games.

You probably want to have both the scouting report and the numbers. Mike McDade career minor league OPS: 744 and only clearing 800 by a large margin at Las Vegas. He's a little young for the league (23 vs. median 24 for the league) and that's worth something, but there's not a lot to get excited about. Good luck to him and I hope he does well.

uglyone - Saturday, December 01 2012 @ 02:42 AM EST (#266422) #
That's the second time I've heard it implied that McDade was "young for his level".

quite the opposite, if anything he's been old for his level, especially being 23 at AA for most of this past year, and without the injury excuses that guys like Sierra and Thames had to hold them back a level or two.
dan gordon - Saturday, December 01 2012 @ 02:47 AM EST (#266423) #

An actual scouting report  by a professional who has seen the guy dozens of times in games over a few years, and is good at what he does, sure.

McDade was more than a year younger than his league prior to this year.  In 2011, for instance, he was in AA, and was 21 at the start of the season, and 22 at the end.  He was having a terrific season, too, until he got hurt and played hurt the rest of the year and his numbers suffered.  I was a little disappointed in his AA numbers this year.  I guess we'll just have to wait and see how he does, but I think the Jays have lost a good prospect unecessarily.

Oceanbound - Saturday, December 01 2012 @ 08:31 AM EST (#266424) #
McDade has always been under the median age for his leagues, uglyone, so yes, he's been young for his level. That's just a fact.
John Northey - Saturday, December 01 2012 @ 09:03 AM EST (#266425) #
I guess one factor with McDade is if he was just under the median for AAA last year then he has to be in the majors this year to keep being under the median and that wasn't going to happen here most likely. His career AA OPS of 788 and AAA of 885 suggests improvement but that AAA figure was in Vegas and over just 18 games. I'd want a lot more out of a 1B/DH before promoting him. If he was a SS/2B/CA/CF those would be excellent stats, if he was a LF/RF/3B it'd be worth considering, but 1B/DH you need to get up to 1000 in Vegas before being worth looking at, and at least 800 in AA.

I think the bigger question though is was someone else on the 40 man better to cut? For example, the roster is now at 39 after not offering a contract to Bobby Wilson, so why didn't they just let him go earlier instead of McDade? Or did the Jays want to free up a 40 man slot for some reason? I can't imagine they are doing the Rule 5 thing if they are trying to contend (although they did carry 2 rule 5's in 1985 while winning 99 games).

Guess we'll see what AA has up his sleeve soon enough.
uglyone - Saturday, December 01 2012 @ 10:31 AM EST (#266426) #
Every minor league is full of older non-prospects. you cannot use median age to judge whether a prispect is young for his level.

mcdade has never been young for his level in comparison to legit prospects, and as a 23yr old in AA he was most definitely too old for that level in comparison to legit prospects.

we don't need to argue about this - just try to find the last successful jays hitting prospect who was still in AA at age 23.....let alone hitting at a very mediocre level at the same time. heck, don't even limit it the jays.

and an .885ops in vegas is no different than a .785ops in a more normal run environment.
Richard S.S. - Saturday, December 01 2012 @ 10:35 AM EST (#266427) #
Another trade or a Free Agent signing make more sense, than a Rule 5 pick.
Mike Green - Saturday, December 01 2012 @ 11:30 AM EST (#266429) #
I am certainly not a professional evaluator.  I saw McDade in a couple of games this past summer (frankly hoping to be wowed).  His glove was not as advertised...yes he looked more comfortable than Adam Lind or Edwin Encarnacion, and he received the ball well, but he was not Keith Hernandez or Eddie Murray or John Olerud around the bag.  I will guess that he had made a lot of progress since he was drafted with the glove. 

As for his offence, for a 23 year old switch-hitting first baseman playing in New Hampshire, 15 homers, 43 walks and 85 strikeouts in 420 PAs is nothing special at all.  There is a short right-field porch and you would anticipate either more power or better strike zone control.  These are the kind of numbers that would be posted by a decent middle infield or centerfield prospect. 

Oceanbound - Saturday, December 01 2012 @ 12:54 PM EST (#266430) #
I think McDade is a very marginal prospect and his departure should be greeted by a big bowl of meh. But I just don't think that being too old for his level is a reason why. Of the 16 players who outhit McDade in the EL, only 1 was younger than him. "Legit prospect" Gary Brown was also in his age 23 season in the EL (actually, he's even older than McDade) and put up a .731 OPS.
TamRa - Saturday, December 01 2012 @ 01:05 PM EST (#266431) #
Rule 5 or on waivers now, the point is he's gone, and some posters were saying the Jays wouldn't lose him.

No sir. that is precisely the point.

If a player is chosen in the Rule 5 he has to stay on the major league roster all year the subsequent season. that was never EVER going to happen for McDade in 2013.

A player claimed on waivers doesn't have to stay in your organization a week before he is in turn waived again - witness the multitude of minor league relievers that have passed through the Blue Jays' hands the last couple of months.

That is a much much different circumstance and anyone would have been foolish to declare McDade would never get claimed on waivers.

Also, he will be very fortunate if he ever gets more than a cup of coffee at the major league level. Those pining for him to be something worthwhile should remember all the minor league "sluggers" we (yes, including me sometimes) got starry-eyed about despite the experts telling us he was nothing special. How's that Dopirak kid working out right now?

Mike Green - Saturday, December 01 2012 @ 03:09 PM EST (#266432) #
I wouldn't go that far.  McDade might take a big step forward at age 24, like Ryan Howard did, and go on to be a very valuable player.  When you watch him, you do see the possibility of a monster power hitter.  It just hasn't quite materialized yet, and more likely than not, it won't ever do so.  Youneverknow.
bpoz - Saturday, December 01 2012 @ 04:17 PM EST (#266433) #
I thought McDade had a good chance to succeed. Switch hitter with some power. We will see. Cleveland seems to develop a lot of hitters IMO, so maybe he loses out & comes back.

Anyone can say a prospect in their opinion will not develop. There are many that did not develop. I liked Ryan Roberts Minor league numbers & I liked the Energy of Ryan Freel. They did well IMO. Actually those 2 hurt because they could play 2B which only A Hill did better than them IMO.
Richard S.S. - Saturday, December 01 2012 @ 11:51 PM EST (#266437) #
The Winter Meetings start Monday (03-06 Dec.) with attendees arriving anytime after lunch on Friday.

A.A. is looking for left-handed reliever better than Cecil and Loup, because he's pretty sure by now Oliver is not returning. I can't see any reason not saying anything before now.

A.A. is also looking for a Starter better than his Starting 5, but at least better than Happ. I would be happy with Happ being in the Bullpen as 6th Starter/Long Relief. He's good enough to be our 5th Starter, I just think we can do better.

A.A. will also be interested in upgrades for CF; 1B/DH; 2B; Pitching to name a few. I know he working at increasing depth in the minors, but I don't know how successful he will be. If Jenkins and Germano are our 8th/9th Starters we should be okay, 9th/10th even better.

Fortunately MLB Trade Rumors is going 24/7 until the meetings are over. At least then, information will be a little more current.
John Northey - Sunday, December 02 2012 @ 01:55 PM EST (#266440) #
An interesting thought... the Mets want a catcher and outfielder, they are listening to offers for Dickey. The Jays have JPA and Rasmus with kids behind them almost ready to take over in TdA and Gose. The Jays also have a backup plan at each position in Buck and Davis/Bonifacio. A backup catcher should be easy to find as there are always a few defense first guys around. So would you trade JPA/Rasmus or TdA/Gose or some other mix (JPA/Gose or TdA/Rasmus) for Dickey? Remember, Dickey is only signed for 2013 but is signed for just $5 mil. Odds are you'd want to get him to sign on the dotted line for 2 more years (he is entering his age 38 season).

With no extension I'd be very tempted to take the risk of trading JPA/Rasmus and hope TdA/Gose is ready this year. Especially if AA has another potential trade set up for a catcher. I think Gose could do as well as Rasmus factoring in defense/offense as Rasmus seems to be establishing himself firmly in the 80's for OPS+ (3 times in the 80's now vs once at 132). Davis lifetime is an 87, Gose was 70 last year breaking in but hit for a 740 OPS in Sept/Oct over 97 PA (around a 100 OPS+) after a horrid start (pre-Sept 499 OPS, around a 40 OPS+ in 92 PA).

Risky, but might be a worthwhile risk if it adds an ace to the front of the rotation and makes Ricky Romero our #5 guy.
John Northey - Sunday, December 02 2012 @ 03:57 PM EST (#266441) #
FYI: I do think the Mets would be dumb to take that trade - JPA and Rasmus cannot be expected to be more than 1-2 WAR players right now and to trade an ace for them would be silly but the Mets are known for silly and if they have big holes to fill then who knows? But for the Jays it would open up 2 holes in a year they want to contend. But for an ace it might well be worth the risk of having John Buck and Rajai Davis playing everyday.
grjas - Sunday, December 02 2012 @ 04:29 PM EST (#266442) #
Not sure why so many are ranking Dickey ahead of JJ. Other than last year JJ's ERA plus has bettered Dickey's. Sure JJ had an off year last year after surgery, but turned it on at year end. He is an injury risk, but Dickey is no spring chicken- knuckleballer or not.

Would be hesitant as well to trade two young talented players for a 38 year old, with 3 good years in his career and one year left on his contract.

Maybe its me and knuckleballers. Still remember Candiotti serving up curveballs in the playoffs while Cito glowered from the bench.
jerjapan - Sunday, December 02 2012 @ 06:39 PM EST (#266446) #
Interesting Fangraphs article on the increasing value of the stolen base in the post-PED era.  Is this another undervalued skill that AA is targeting?

Richard S.S. - Sunday, December 02 2012 @ 07:06 PM EST (#266447) #
The evaluation a person puts on the Team's offense determine the value placed on others. Is our offense better than Miami's was? I say yes. Check Josh Johnson's game logs for 2012. IMO his 8-14 record, with just better offense, could have been 22-6. That's a top 5 in my book.

R.A. Dickey is 38 years-old and wants a big multi- year contract. He has upside?
Richard S.S. - Sunday, December 02 2012 @ 11:41 PM EST (#266448) #
Other than J. P. Arencibia and Colby Rasmus, I can't see anyone else A.A. could trade from our MLB Roster. Don't mention Adam (of little trade value) Lind and John (over-priced) Buck as they are unlikely to be traded.

Travis d'Arnaud is as close to be untradeable as anyone A.A. has in the system. Our Catcher depth is no longer very deep. Anthony Gose or Moises Sierra could be traded, but our Outfield depth is no longer very deep. LHPs in system can't be traded as so few have value. As for Infield depth (1B, 2B, SS, 3B) is almost void of talent that might be traded. As for RHP who could be traded, Sam Dyson, Chad Jenkins, Daniel Barnes and Deck McGuire are closest to MLB-ready, while Sanchez, Syndergaard and Osuna are the remaining Studs.

Unless A.A. can create more magic, Free Agency may all be that's left to explore.
92-93 - Sunday, December 02 2012 @ 11:56 PM EST (#266449) #
Instead of trading your starting CF and C for a 38 year old knuckleballer I'd much prefer seeing them add a pitcher via the FA market.
sweat - Monday, December 03 2012 @ 09:22 AM EST (#266451) #
I agree, the Jays need to add some SP depth, and a FA starter is the easiest way.  Trading Gose, D'Arnaud or one of Izturis or Bonaficio would really hurt the Jays ability to have an average replacement player ready to go for every spot on the field.

greenfrog - Monday, December 03 2012 @ 10:07 AM EST (#266453) #
I think I might prefer Niese to Dickey. Less glamour, but he's 25, improved his game last year, and has a team-friendly contract (signed through 2016, with team options for 2017 and 2018).

A rotation of JJ / Morrow / Buehrle / Niese / Romero / Happ to start the season would be pretty impressive, especially considering the state of the rotation at the end of last season.

Of course, this would require sending some talent to the Mets (even assuming they're willing to trade Niese, which I would find somewhat surprising).

A free agent like McCarthy or Jackson is another option, but would necessitate another payroll jump.
John Northey - Monday, December 03 2012 @ 11:06 AM EST (#266454) #
And there lies the rub - will the Jays be willing to jump payroll even further and if so how far?

I see Dickey as possible due to the match in needs each way (ace here, OF/CA there). Odds are the Mets would be after kids more than vets, but JPA and Rasmus are young and under control for a bit still and easier to sell to the media. A trade like that though would most likely be a mid-season trade with Dickey having to agree to an extension of at least one year. I say that due to the idea of TdA and Gose being ready by mid-season (hopefully) so we aren't subjected to Buck/Davis everyday.

Of course, like everyone else, I'd love to see Halladay or Felix Hernandez or Cliff Lee or someone like that (a more traditional ace who is a bit younger) instead. However, Felix is probably not available (the Mariners have insisted that for awhile) and Philly seems to think they can come back and contend in 2013. Free agents are expensive and hard to sign (might want to play near home, division easier than AL East, might hate crossing border, who knows).

Hrm... could the Mets do a Dickey or Niese for Buehrle+ trade? Would that be a good idea? Would that be an upgrade?
electric carrot - Monday, December 03 2012 @ 01:20 PM EST (#266456) #
I'm personally intrigued by Dickey and see him as nearly a perfect fit.  He's at the top of his game and he would be here for the one year that for sure Toronto contends because JJ is also here. Plus, I've seen too many Jays strikeout against Wakefield to be cynical about old knuckleballers.  (Dickey's obviously at a higher level now than Wakefield ever was.)  This guy could be the David Cone of 1992.  My question is what does it take to get it done?  If it's JP and Gose -- I'd really have to think about that. (Keeping in mind that TO lost Jeff Kent (iirc) in the Cone trade and it was still probably worth it.)  If JP is gone Buck can be the #1 -- I'm fine with that. Not a big drop in offense, probably much more adept at handling the staff. And Dickey compared to whoever would slot as our number 5,6 or 7 guy (given the inevitable injuries and uncertainty about Romero) looks like a big jump to me. 
CeeBee - Monday, December 03 2012 @ 02:24 PM EST (#266458) #
The Jays just claimed catcher Eli Whiteside from the Yankees on waivers. Catchers must be the new shiny toy perhaps?
Lylemcr - Monday, December 03 2012 @ 04:49 PM EST (#266459) #

Assuming that Romero comes back, a rotation of

JJ / Morrow / Buehrle / Romero / Happ is pretty nice.

Let's see....  Last year, it was Romero, Morrow, Hutchinson, Alvarez and Drabek.  (And Hutchinson and Drabek will be back sometime.)

Also...  There are some nice arms 1 year away.    I don't know about you guys, but I pretty stoked to start the year!

TamRa - Tuesday, December 04 2012 @ 02:22 AM EST (#266460) #
Getting Dickey would be fine with me, albeit NOT at the cost of d'Arnaud or Gose (and not Rasmus AND JPA)

JP for Dickey is fine by me. True you are trading 4 years of JP for one of RA - BUT unless he completely falls apart, you can make a qualifying offer to RA at the end of the season and reep a draft pick which off-sets some of that lost value.

On another note, people tend to assume that you simply can't trade Buck at that price. but what if you were dealing for another overpriced guy? Say, for instance, johan Santana?

Now I'm not saying the Jays would, or should, necessarily. but ifthe Mets were looking to off-load serious money, sending Sanatna and $10 milion to the Jays for Buck would save them $15 million. Would the Jays take on 15 mil for a guy who had back issues last year?  probably not but it's just an illustration.

What if Texas wanted to dump Michael Young? Would he be worth the $10 mill difference to us? I can't see how.

Justin Mournau (with the Twins resigning themselves to moving mauer out to 1B)? Might be some value there if you could get them to  take on our albatross as long as there was a good prospect or two in the margin. Just spitballing.

You get the idea.

Also, on a completely unrelated note - I muse about the possibility of adding an upper level pitching prospect atthe expense of some position of depth. for instance, how about Colby Rasmus for James Paxton (sorry, i just love the irony of Paxton ending up with the jays after all)? that sort of thing.

with such a move your "#6" or #7 guy is, in fact, a legitimate prospect and not an Aaron Laffey type.

John Northey - Tuesday, December 04 2012 @ 08:53 AM EST (#266461) #
I'm still hopeful for a real ace, but unless Seattle decides to give up on King Felix signing an extension (that probably won't come until next winter) Dickey or Grienke are the best bets and I don't see Grienke as likely as AA sounds like he feels maxed out in payroll based on recent interviews. Dickey is very affordable ($5 mil this year) and the Jays could go all year with Dickey/Johnson in the 1/2 slots (either order) then do qualifying offers in the offseason and get a couple of draft picks or sign whichever they feel did the best job.

My bet though is boring signings now - guys for AAA who are depth, a middle reliever or two pre-spring, more backups for other positions. I said to get the best deals AA would have to act fast and he did just that. Problem is what do we talk about for December/January/February?
Paul D - Tuesday, December 04 2012 @ 09:15 AM EST (#266462) #
Heck, if things get rough, the Jays could go all year with Dickey in the 1 and 4 spots.
Beyonder - Tuesday, December 04 2012 @ 10:18 AM EST (#266465) #
Compensatory draft picks would be a nice fall back. Another would be to trade Dickey (or Johnson for that matter) at the deadline for a Greinke-level package of prospects (i.e. a Segura, Pena, Hellweg-type package). IMO, that calibre of package would come close to replenishing what we lost in Gose and JPA.
John Northey - Tuesday, December 04 2012 @ 04:54 PM EST (#266473) #
The one challenge is you cannot count on either picks or prospects. If Dickey got hurt suddenly his value drops. If he has a bad year, his value could drop enough to not make a qualifying offer. One doesn't expect it, but if you are AA you have to factor those in.
ayjackson - Friday, December 07 2012 @ 12:32 AM EST (#266546) #

I little tidbit of info on injured prospect, Mitch Nay, from the comments at MinorLeagueBall.......

Mitch’s grandfather is a friend of mine and the three of us hung out at an AFL game a few weeks ago.

His injury was a small fracture to a small bone on the outside of his right foot suffered while running in a cut drill.

It’s almost the same injury as the last one Anthony Rendon had..they both went to brake and pivot and stepped in a hole or spike mark and the foot rolled.

He is not reporting to instructs this month, but will instead report on March 5th with the other injured players from 2012.

He was walking without a limp, he wasn’t favoring the foot walking up and down stairs, and said he can run and do all baseball activities without pain or hesitation.

He’s in real good spirits and excited for spring training.

by mlbprospectpulse on Dec 5, 2012 8:26 PM EST replyactions

scottt - Friday, December 07 2012 @ 05:14 AM EST (#266547) #
The Mets are actively shopping Dickey and they can fall back on the comp pick, so I'd be surprised if he comes cheap.
John Northey - Friday, December 07 2012 @ 07:29 AM EST (#266548) #
I read somewhere that the Mets are after Gose as part of a trade package. Can't see AA giving up Gose easily as he chased Gose for a long time before getting him. But, as they say, if we're hearing about it odds are it isn't happening or it will happen fast - so either Dickey is here by end of day Saturday or forget about it.
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