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One pitcher threw five wild pitches and three players stole home. Speaking of the numbers five and three, that was the record the affiliates posted on Monday.

Columbus 10 Buffalo 3

Buffalo, NY — The Bisons are back below the .500 mark after getting pounded by the Indians affiliate. Chucky took revenge on Ricky Romero as the embattled lefty pitched one inning, getting slapped around for five runs (four earned) on four hits and five walks with just one strikeout. Romero came back to the mound for the second inning but did not retire any of the seven batters he faced. Only 21 of his 48 pitches were strikes. Bobby Korecky prevented Romero's line from being even uglier by stranding the bases loaded and pitching a one-hitter over four shutout frames. His K-BB ratio was 4-0 and his ground ball/fly ball total was 4-1. Joel Carreno did not have it in his 1 2/3 innings. He yielded a home run and saw three Clippers touch home plate in 1 2/3 innings. Carreno gave up two hits and two walks but also struck out a pair. John Stilson did not have it either as he could not strand his lone inherited runner. He also surrendered a run of his own on two hits and two walks in one-third of an inning. Lefty Buddy Caryle continued the ineffective bullpen trend by getting gonged for a home run among his three hits in two innings. Half of his six outs came via the strikeout.

Moises Sierra got the Herd on the board with a sacrifice fly in the first to tie the game at 1-1. Andy LaRoche slammed a two-run homer in the fourth to pull the Bisons to within 5-3. Buffalo had just six hits and nobody had more than one. In a nice change of pace, Anthony Gose walked three times, stole a base and did not strike out once. He also threw out a runner at home from center field. Sierra had a base hit and a stolen base. Ryan Goins had the lone extra-base hit with a double. Kevin Pillar, Jim Negrych, Mauro Gomez and Munenori Kawasaki all put up a one in the hit column.


New Hampshire 4 Harrisburg 3


Manchester, NH — The Nationals affiliate had a 3-0 lead before Adam Loewen went yard in the third to put the Fisher Cats on the prowl. Loewen delivered the F-Cats second run with an RBI single in the fifth. Brad Glenn tied it by putting one over the fence to begin the eighth inning. Gabe Jacobo later followed with a single and it turned out to be a little-league home run as he scored on a throwing error by the right fielder and a fielding error by the center fielder. Loewen had a three-hit night while Glenn and Jacobo had two hits apiece. Andy Burns and A.J. Jimenez were both 1-for-4.

Ryan Tepera hit a speed bump by giving up all three of his runs in the third inning. He went five innings with the three runs coming on three hits, four walks and a hit by pitch. He had zero strikeouts but seven of his nine outs were on the grass. Randy Boone (3-0) scattered four hits and a walk over three scoreless frames and had four punchouts. With the victory, Boone became the Fisher Cats franchise wins leader with 17. Scott Gracey bid the Senators good night with a perfect frame, highlighted by a strikeout, to collect his first save.


Dunedin 9 Charlotte 2

Port Charlotte, FL — K.C. Hobson opened and closed the scoring for the Jays with a run-scoring double in the first inning and a solo homer to start the ninth. Nick Baligod smoked a leadoff homer in the second, followed by a Jon Berti sacrifice fly and a Peter Mooney RBI groundout. Baligod doubled in another run in the third and Matt Newman scored another one with a deep enough fly ball. Marcus Knecht doubled in a run in the seventh and Baligod drove in his fourth run of the night with a ground ball. Hobson had a four-hit performance, finishing a triple short of the cycle. Mooney had three hits and Knecht had two.

Kyle Drabek pitched 3 2/3 inning shutout innings, stifling the Rays affiliate to a hit and a walk while whiffing three. Four of his six outs in play did not escape the infield. According to @DunedinBlueJays, Drabek was averaging 94 miles per hour with his fastball. He has kept the opposition off the scoreboard over his last 10 2/3 innings. John Anderson (4-1) was not quite as effective as Drabek as the lefthander allowed two runs on three hits and two walks over 2 1/3 innings while striking out one. Lefty Tony Davis allowed Anderson's runners to score but gave up just one hit and struck out a pair over two scoreless frames. Ajay Meyer gave up a hit and plunked a batter but he struck out a batter in a scoreless ninth.


Lansing 5 Kane County 2

Geneva, IL — The Lugnuts put up a three-spot in the first inning with Dwight Smith Jr. plating the first run with a ground ball. Kevin Patterson doubled in the second run and came home on an errant pickoff throw. Patterson hit a ground ball to score another run in the fifth. Smith would drive his second run of the game with a base hit in the seventh. Smith Jr., Jorge Flores and Christian Lopes shared the Lugnuts hit lead with two apiece. Flores was also hit by pitches twice to get on base four times and he added a stolen base. Patterson had two walks to get on base three times. Dalton Pompey doubled, walked and stole two bases to put his season total up to 33. Carlos Ramirez singled, walked and stole a base. Santiago Nessysingled in four trips to the plate.

Despite giving up two hits, four walks and two plunks over five frames, Taylor Cole (5-9) kept the Cubs affiliate at bay with just two runs allowed with the runs coming on a two-run dinger by Reggie Golden. He struck out two and eight of his dozen outs in play stayed in the diamond. Justin Jackson went 1 2/3 scoreless frames but allowed two hits and two walks while striking out one. Tucker Donahue saved Jackson by stranding his three runners and pitching one shutout inning with one hit and one walk. Arik Sikula recorded the four-out save, his 13th, by stranding two Donahue runners and navigating his way around a hit and a walk with the help of one strikeout.


Vancouver 4 Eugene 2



Kyle Anderson lowered his ERA to 2.49 with a solid 6 2/3 innings of work Monday night.

Vancouver, BC — The C's ended the first-half of their season on a winning note with a win over the Padres affiliate, finishing one game back of Everett for the first-half division title. Lefty Kyle Anderson (4-0) had two unearned runs over 6 2/3 innings by spreading out six hits and a walk. He struck out two but compiled an impressive 13 ground ball outs. Fellow southpaw Joe Spano picked up Anderson by stranding a runner and punching out two of the four hitters he faced in a perfect 1 1/3 innings. Chuck Ghysels allowed a hit but struck out a batter in the ninth for his fourth save.


Surrey, BC native Justin Atkinson had a three-hit night to lift his batting average to .256.

Vancouver did all of their business with the bats in the fourth inning. L.B. Dantzler doubled home the first two runs. Jordan Leyland scored Dantzler with a single before giving way to pinch-runner Brenden Kalfus, who would score on a Justin Atkinson double. Atkinson had three hits while Chaz Frank, Dickie Thon Jr. and Dantzler had two apiece. Guelph, Ontario native Shaun Valeriote was 0-for-2.


Bristol 7 Bluefield 6

Bluefield, WV — The Bluef-Jays flushed a four-run lead down the toilet against the White Sox in the ninth. Alberto Tirado surrendered two runs over four innings on four hits and two walks. He struck out a pair and induced six ground ball outs. Lefthander Jairo Labourt was much better in his four innings of work, allowing zero runs on one hit and one walk. He picked up 6 K's and five groundouts.  Brett Barber (1-1) tried to close the door but five runs cross the plate on his watch, all of them unearned, on two hits and a walk. Two passed balls by Jorge Saez and errors by D.J. Davis in center and Dawel Lugo at short also played a role. Lefty Francisco Gracesqui could not strand his lone inherited runner after a throwing error by Saez. Gracesqui did end the inning with a strikeout.

The Jays broke out on top in the first inning on a two-run homer by Dawel Lugo to cash in a Tim Locastro triple. John Silviano went deep in the sixth to put the Jays ahead again, 3-2. Before giving all it back with his glove, Saez socked a two-run bomb in the eighth before Matt Dean stole home during a Davis walk. Locastro, Lugo, Saez and Dean all had two hits with Locastro drawing a walk and stealing a base. Davis walked twice. The Jays were 2-for-8 with runners in scoring position, leaving 10 men on base.


GCL Astros 4 GCL Blue Jays 3

Kissimmee, FL — The Jays tried to chip away at a 3-0 first inning deficit when Rowdy Tellez doubled home two runs for his first professional base hit in the third. The other run came with two outs in the ninth on a Dan Jansen RBI single. Edwin Fuentes had a perfect day at the dish, going 3-for-3 with a double, a walk and a stolen base. Franklin Barretowas 2-for-4 with a stolen base and Jansen reached base twice by getting a walk. Tellez whiffed twice and also made an error at first base.

Jesus Tinoco (0-3) had the first inning hiccup but settled down to retire nine of the last 11 hitters he faced in his four innings of work. The three runs on his line came on five hits and two walks. He punched out three and racked up seven outs on the ground. Lefty Alejando Solarte pitched 3 1/3 innings and was charged with one run on four hits and a walk. He struck out a pair and recorded six ground ball outs. Fellow southpaw Jose Fernandez stranded both of Solarte's runners and got the final two outs of the eighth, thanks to a 7-2 double play started by Sean Hurley.


DSL Blue Jays 9 DSL Yankees1 8

San Pedro de Macoris, DR — The Jays walked this one off in a back and forth affair. Richard Urena led off the ninth with a double and raced to third on an error by the Yankees left fielder. He would scamper home on a wild pitch. The Jays were down 3-0 before an RBI double by Juan Fuente and a two-run double by Urena in the third inning tied things up. Juan Tejada connected for a solo shot in the fourth and Fuente stole home on the front end of a double steal with Deiferson Barreto to highlight another three-run frame. Michael De La Cruz stole home as part of another double steal with Tejada in the fifth to put the Jays ahead 7-6. Juan Kelly singled in another run in the seventh to give the Jays an 8-7 lead. Urena and De La Cruz had the multi-hit games for the Jays with two apiece with De La Cruz being hit by a pitch. Fuente added two walks with his double.

Francisco Rios gave up three runs over three innings on two hits and four walks. He did strike out five but he also threw five wild pitches. Greylor Conde was whacked for four runs on six hits, with all of the runs courtesy of three long balls over four innings. On the positive side, he struck out five and walked nobody. Jairo Rosario received a blown save after he gave up a long ball over his 1 2/3 innings. He walked one and plunked one but struck out three. Pedro Diaz (1-0) prevented two Rosario runners from scoring by retiring the only hitter he faced.


Boxscores


*** 3 Stars!!! ***


3. Kyle Anderson, Vancouver — Has limited Northwest League hitters to a .217 BA and has walked just seven batters in 43 2/3 innings.


2. Adam Loewen, New Hampshire — Has three multi-hit games in a row and has 27 extra-base hits (13 HR, 13 2B, 1 3B).


1. K.C. Hobson, Dunedin -— Brought his BA up to .200 and has 14 HR and 12 2B on the season.


Tuesday's Probable Starters...


Dunedin (47-47) — Aaron Sanchez (2-4, 3.26) @ Charlotte, 6:30 pm ET.
Bluefield (19-11) — Tom Robson (2-0, 1.71) @ Danville, 7:00 pm ET.
Buffalo (50-51) — JA Happ (NR) vs. Columbus, 7:05 pm ET.
New Hampshire (52-48) — Deck McGuire (5-8, 5.40) vs. Harrisburg, 7:05 pm ET.
Vancouver (21-16) — TBA @ Spokane, 9:30 pm ET.
DSL Blue Jays (22-16) — TBA @ DSL Yankees1, 10:30 am ET.
GCL Blue Jays (11-14) — TBA vs. GCL Astros, 12:00 pm ET.
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TJ Caino - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 07:41 AM EDT (#276924) #
Marisnick has been promoted.
John Northey - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 08:24 AM EDT (#276925) #
How odd for Miami.  Marisnick was in AA hitting 294/358/502 which is good but not 'wow lets skip a level'.  Of course in July he has hit 344/394/547
AWeb - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 09:36 AM EDT (#276926) #

 ...single and it turned out to be a little-league home run as he scored on a throwing error by the right fielder and a fielding error by the center fielder.

My brain had a hard time picturing this play until I realized the errors didn't have to go in this order.

John Northey - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 11:16 AM EDT (#276930) #
Heh.  Picturing the RF attempting to throw the ball and releasing it waaaay too early so it goes up into the air, or lets it go too late and it smashes into the ground, and the CF picks it up and drops it a couple of times.  Hmmm.... sounds like what might happen if I get onto a field again.
AWeb - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 11:53 AM EDT (#276936) #
If the Jays recent trajectory continues, you might get to see it tonight. Dammit, if we're not getting the highs, I want the comedically terrible lows. Last night was a good start, easier to laugh at a team losing like that.
Gerry - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 11:59 AM EDT (#276937) #
Kenny Wilson will play in the GCL game today.
Parker - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 01:40 PM EDT (#276947) #
I'm on board with AWeb.  If you're going to fail at something, make it a spectacular failure.
Ryan Day - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 02:04 PM EDT (#276949) #
Let's see if JP can play centre field.
sam - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 02:58 PM EDT (#276953) #
Let's see if he can play catcher
Lylemcr - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 03:28 PM EDT (#276955) #

I don't hate JP like many people do, but I am tired of his fight with the media he has.  He needs to mature and concentrate on catching.  He is a 219 hitter and an average (at best) catcher.  He is not going to get any mercy, especially when his team is playing so poorly.

Instead of spending time reading blogs and tweets, he should become a student of the game. 

I also see Marisnick is getting called up.  That is the one prospect I was most worried about in all the trades this off season. 

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/22852054/marlins-calling-up-top-prospects-christian-yelich-and-jake-marisnick

It will be interesting....

finch - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 04:09 PM EDT (#276956) #

"I don't hate JP like many people do, but I am tired of his fight with the media he has.  He needs to mature and concentrate on catching.  He is a 219 hitter and an average (at best) catcher.  He is not going to get any mercy, especially when his team is playing so poorly."

 

I understand where JP is coming from. It's difficult to take critism from ex-players, that were subpar or below your performance levels, and "journalists" that never played competitively. Yes Arencibia has his faults and areas in which need improvement, but I strongly feel he's been the whipping boy for the team. In terms of the entire package (skill, charity work, likability) you could do a lot worse than JP. With the recent in depth analysis of the coaching staff vs. other coaching staffs around the league, in terms of development, I wonder how much better JP would be. I could see him eventually moving onto another organization where he finally realizes his potential. What's his potential? Still a guy that strikeouts a lot but gives you a .250 BA with an OPS around 750 while hittng 20-25 HRs with ~90 RBIs.

Chuck - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 04:25 PM EDT (#276958) #
It's difficult to take critism from ex-players, that were subpar or below your performance levels

Most managers fall into that category.

Ryan Day - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 04:41 PM EDT (#276959) #
It's difficult to take critism from ex-players, that were subpar or below your performance levels...
I've seen this argument a few times, and I don't accept the premise that Gregg Zaun was a worse player than JP. 1232 games in the majors, with a career OPS+ of 91, and generally regarded as a decent, if unspectacular, defender.

Besides, as Chuck points out, most managers and coaches had mediocre careers in the majors. What credibility does Chad Mottola to try and work with Jose Bautista? He got all of 125 ABs in the majors, spread out over 10 years.
John Northey - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 04:43 PM EDT (#276960) #
Now there is a problem.  Players who refuse to take advise unless the player was as good or better than them in the majors.  If a player feels that way then they'd ignore many of the best managers - from Tony LaRussa (132 games, 53 OPS+ at 2B/SS/3B) to Bobby Cox (220 games, 88 OPS+ at 3B) to Sparky Anderson (1 season, 43 OPS+) to name a few very well known managers.  Cito Gaston did make an All-Star team so he'd be 'acceptable' to JPA I'd guess.  Now, maybe he just feels that way about broadcasters, but if I was Gibbons (18 games at catcher) I'd be concerned about that type of attitude and would probably take JPA to the woodshed and remind him that not having ML success as a player doesn't preclude one from being able to provide advise be it positive or negative.

Also, Gregg Zaun had a far better career than JPA to date - 1232 games in the majors, 91 OPS+ so if JPA feels Zaun isn't worthy then what does he think of himself?
finch - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 04:46 PM EDT (#276961) #

"Most managers fall into that category"

There's a difference when it's your coach vs. someone in the media. It's believed that those that played the game and failed understand the game. They might have not had the physical tools to succeed but they do have the understanding and knowledge...that's why they coach. They have the insight/knowledge to make you better. On the other hand, media members are paid to criticize and selling papers or increase web-hits or gain twitter followers. HUGE difference taking critism from the likes of Robin Ventura vs. someone like Greg Zuan.

finch - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 04:54 PM EDT (#276962) #

"I've seen this argument a few times, and I don't accept the premise that Gregg Zaun was a worse player than JP. 1232 games in the majors, with a career OPS+ of 91, and generally regarded as a decent, if unspectacular, defender."

I will argue that Greg Zaun had a career based on Enhancing Performace Drugs. His name was on a list containing the original 113ish players that used. You can not compare JPA to Greg Zaun based on this. What would JPA's numbers look like IF he used steriods? Probably would SMASH the offensive numbers and would have a spike in % of runners thrown out. Zaun is a cheater and a liar and he will never have the respect from me.


Mike Green - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 04:59 PM EDT (#276963) #
Happ starting in Buffalo tonight probably means he'll be in TO 5 or 10 days from now.  That's good news.
finch - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 05:01 PM EDT (#276964) #

And here's a list of the players that apparenlty failed a drug test before the Mitchell Report came out, so baseball could have an idea how many were cheating. Although never confirmed:

1.Nomar Garciaparra
2.Manny Ramirez
3.Johnny Damon
4.Trot Nixon
5.David Ortiz
6.Shea Hillenbrand
7.Derek Lowe
8.Pedro Martinez
9.Brian Roberts
10.Jay Gibbons
11.Melvin Mora
12.Jerry Hairston
13.Jason Giambi
14.Alfonso Soriano
15.Raul Mondesi
16. Aaron Boone
17.Andy Pettitte
18.Jose Contreras
19.Roger Clemens
20.Carlos Delgado
21.Vernon Wells
22.Frank Catalanotto
23.Kenny Rogers
24.Magglio Ordonez
25.Sandy Alomar
26.Bartolo Colon
27.Brent Abernathy
28.Jose Lima
29.Milton Bradley
30.Casey Blake
31.Danys Baez
32.Craig Monroe
33.Dmitri Young
34.Alex Sanchez
35.Eric Chavez
36.Miguel Tejada
37.Eric Byrnes
38.Jose Guillen
39.Keith Foulke
40.Ricardo Rincon
41.Bret Boone
42.Mike Cameron
43.Randy Winn
44.Ryan Franklin
45.Freddy Garcia
46.Rafael Soriano
47.Scott Spiezio
48.Troy Glaus
49.Francisco Rodriguez
50.Ben Weber
51.Alex Rodriguez
52.Juan Gonzalez
53.Rafael Palmeiro
54.Carl Everett
55.Javy Lopez
56.Gary Sheffield
57.Mike Hampton
58.Ivan Rodriguez
59.Derrek Lee
60.Bobby Abreu
61.Terry Adams
62.Fernando Tatis
63.Livan Hernandez
64.Hector Almonte
65.Tony Armas
66.Dan Smith
67.Roberto Alomar
68.Cliff Floyd
69.Roger Cedeno
70.Jeromy Burnitz
71.Moises Alou
72.Sammy Sosa
73.Corey Patterson
74.Carlos Zambrano
75.Mark Prior
76.Kerry Wood
77.Matt Clement
78.Antonio Alfonseca
79.Juan Cruz
80.Aramis Ramirez
81.Craig Wilson
82.Kris Benson
83.Richie Sexson
84.Geoff Jenkins
85.Valerio de los Santos
86.Benito Santiago
87.Rich Aurilia
88.Barry Bonds
89.Andres Galarraga
90.Jason Schmidt
91.Felix Rodriguez
92.Jason Christiansen
93.Matt Herges
94.Paul Lo Duca
95.Shawn Green
96.Oliver Perez
97.Adrian Beltre
98.Eric Gagne
99.Guillermo Mota
100.Luis Gonzalez
101.Todd Helton
102.Ryan Klesko
103.Gary Matthews

John Northey - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 05:02 PM EDT (#276965) #
Heh.  Somehow I doubt PED's shift guys from nothings to near all-stars.  Still, it is possible that JPA refuses to listen to anyone who was caught and there is some logic to that at least.  Steroids though wouldn't help JPA in the key area of knowing the strike zone - you can't hit the ball a mile if you miss it, and no matter how pumped I'd expect a sub 300 OBP from him.
Chuck - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 05:02 PM EDT (#276966) #
This business about students being better than coaches can be seen in a great many disciplines when it comes to world class talent. Students are almost always better than their coaches ever were. The coaches have expertise in technique and how to apply it, even if they themselves are not able. This is why Butterfield was so respected. No one ever needed to see the back of his baseball card to decide if he was worth being listened to.

And as for never having participated in an activity that is being critiqued, that's kind of irrelevant as well. I have virtually no musical ability but I can certainly recognize that Justin Beiber is nowhere near as gifted as Sarah Slean. I could not direct a film as well as Chris Columbus, but I am well able to recognize his mediocrity and assert with confidence that he is no Kieslowski. I have never played baseball at a level anywhere remotely close to the majors, but I am able to see that Arencibia is currently not a very good player (with the understanding that this is within the context of the top 750 players in the world!).

The ability to gauge expertise does not always require personal experience.
John Northey - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 05:04 PM EDT (#276967) #
finch - sources please?  I have never seen Roberto Alomar's name on one of these lists, or Kerry Wood or many of the other names you list.  Right now your post is libel and might be removed unless you can say where you got this list.
92-93 - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 05:09 PM EDT (#276968) #
If you're going to accuse Gregg Zaun of doing steroids, please do a better job. His name was not on a list containing players that used; his name was in a report surrounding steroids in the game. The difference, of course, is that you suggested he was identified as a verified steroid user, whereas in reality the only evidence against him was a $500 check cashed by a criminal Kirk Radomski, which Zaun alleges was written out for a different purpose to a different person.

I also enjoy the assumption that JP Arencibia is clean.
finch - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 05:44 PM EDT (#276970) #
A google search will bring up multiple sources

Here's a link:
http://www.faniq.com/blog/The-Complete-2003-MLB-PED-Test-List-of-104-Players-Blog-26246

And Zaun paid $5000 not 500 I believe. At the time, I believe Zaun said something along the lines of: I lost a bet to a teammate (Jason Grimsley) and gave him a blank cheque and he in turn used it to by steroids and that's why it was cashed. Ummm ya...
Paul D - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 05:48 PM EDT (#276971) #
Here's the actual list
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3153646

It's easy to tell the fake list - it has Alomar, who was just elected to the Hall of Fame with no whisper of PEDs.  (And Delgado)

scottt - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 05:58 PM EDT (#276973) #
I don't remember reading that

"...in September 2002 Luis Perez, a bullpen catcher for the Montreal Expos, was arrested for possession of a pound of marijuana. In January 2003, he was interviewed by investigators from the Commissioner's Office. Perez told those investigators that he had personally supplied anabolic steroids to Zaun and seven other major league ball players"
John Northey - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 06:10 PM EDT (#276974) #
A list from a blog (and I did do a bit of searching and every last one I found was a blog by someone who most likely isn't paid to write) doesn't count as a real thing. They all list the same source, a guy who posted it on a message board who says he got it from a friend of a friend - oh yeah, that'll be accurate.  As others said, if anyone actually believed that list Roberto Alomar would not be in the HOF today.

The ESPN list is a lot more likely to mean something, and Baseball-Reference lists a similar if not identical one when you do a search for 'steroids'.   
finch - Tuesday, July 23 2013 @ 06:13 PM EDT (#276975) #

"Here's the actual list
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3153646"

I believe that is the actual list for the Mitchell Report.

The list that I provided was supposed to be the results of a confidential test conduction by MLB in 2002/2003 where players testing positive would not be suspended. It was merely a test to see the general number to players that were using some type of performance enhancing substance at the time. I would think MLB knew of the use of substances but didn't know what the value of "x" was.

 

Although I DO believe the list I provided is accurate, I think some might have used some PEDs in order to recover from injuries more quickly. It would make sense for Kerry Wood, who had difficulties staying healthy.

China fan - Wednesday, July 24 2013 @ 01:01 AM EDT (#277006) #
Your personal "belief" in this list is irrelevant. If you're publicly accusing Roberto Alomar of being a PED user, you'd better have more than a personal opinion. Citing a pseudo "list" of dubious origin is worse than useless. Please don't make accusations if you don't have any actual evidence to back it up, and please withdraw your allegations when they've been shown to be unsubstantiated.
CeeBee - Wednesday, July 24 2013 @ 08:56 AM EDT (#277013) #
Thanks CF. I've seen too many witch hunts here and elsewhere. I'd rather just watch and talk baseball.
Gerry - Wednesday, July 24 2013 @ 09:10 AM EDT (#277015) #

My guess would be that the list represents everyone who has been accused at any time of using PED's.

The only time I recall Alomar being mentioned with PED's was when he was in a difficult divorce with, I assume, a now ex-wife.  As part of the divorce proceedings, and probably to try and force Alomar to settle, she alleged he had used PED's.  That is the only time I remember Alomar being accused and that might be how he got on the list.

If that is how he got on the list then the basis for the list is flimsy.

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