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There were lots of runs in the affiliates games on Sunday. It was tough to choose the three stars among the hitters while most of the pitchers did not stake a claim. Dickie Thon hit a couple of home runs and picked up a couple of the not so nice hits on his body. Dwight Smith had three hits and was a double short of the cycle. Vlad Jr had two hits, one his eighth homer. Dalton Pompey had two hits, one a homer too. Max Pentecost had two hits but no home runs, he hit his on his Dunedin debut on Saturday. AJ Jimenez joined the round trippers club.

Buffalo Charlotte 8

Buffalo's first four batters reached base and it looked good for a positive result for the Bisons but they trailed by two runs after two. Dalton Pompey led off with a solo home run. Darrell Ceciliani followed with a double and singles by Matt Dominguez and Chris Colabello made it 2-0. But Scott Diamond wasn't hitting his spots. Charlotte had six hits in the first two innings and five of them were for extra bases. Pompey, single, and Ceciliani, double, brought it back to a one run game in the third but Diamond gave up four more in the fourth to make it a five run differential. AJ Jimenez hit a two run home run in the sixth.

The top four hitters who led off the game with hits, ended with two each. Bobby Korecky provided four shutout innings, just one hit conceded.


Altoona 11 New Hampshire 5

The Fisher Cats signed John Straka from independent league and he didn't make a good second impression. In his first start he gave up three runs but on Sunday it was eight runs in less than two innings. The three relievers did OK but the damage had been done.

Dwight Smith tried single handedly to mount a come back. He was 3-4 with a triple and a home run and three RBI. Jon Berti and Jason Leblebijian had two hits each. Richard Urena was 1-4 and Rowdy Tellez 0-4.


Dunedin 12 Lakeland 7

Dickie Thon homered his first two times up. After that he was hit by a pitch, struck out, hit by a pitch, struck out. One hit by pitch for each homer. Kevin Pillar didn't homer but he was twice hit by pitches too. He was pulled from the game in the seventh after going 2-2. Max Pentecost was 2-5 with two K's. Matt Dean also had two hits.

Conor Fisk didn't have to be great and he wasn't. He did go six innings and gave up four but on the good side the punched out nine. Justin Shafer pitched two perfect innings in relief. He seems to be moving between the rotation and the bullpen these days.


South Bend 2 Lansing 3

Lansing were outhit 12-5 but they made their hits count. It helped that South Bend left 13 runners on base. In the fifth inning a lead off walk, a single and two wild pitches led to the first run. In the sixth, the Lugnuts loaded the bases with no outs. A sac fly scored the second run. Then the runners tried for a double steal and when the catcher threw it away Lane Thomas came home with what turned out to be the winning run.

Ryan Borucki went five shutout innings. He did give up five hits, one walk, and had six K's. Tom Robson put on six base runners in two innings but just allowed one run. Jackson Lowery also pitched two innings and had four base runners and he too just conceded the one run.



Boise 7 Vancouver 0

There was not much to report on in this game. The Canadians were outhit 11-4 but theu could not do what Lansing did. Rodrigo Orozco had two hits. Josh Palacios stayed semi-hot with a hit.

Patrick Murphy started, he gave up four runs in five innings on eight hits.


Bluefield 7 Danville 4

A five run seventh was the difference. The Jays scored their seven runs with just seven hits. Vlad Jr had two of the hits including his eighth home run, a two run shot. Vladdy had another RBI for three on the day. Juandy Mendoza also went deep for the Jays. Lance Jones had the big hit in the seventh, a bases loaded and bases clearing, double.

Osman Gutierrez was another pitcher who was OK but not great. He was charged with all four runs in six plus innings. Three of those runs came in the seventh when he was tiring. Stuart Holmes and Angel Alicia provided hitless relief over the final three innings.



Three Stars

Third Star - Dwight smith

Second Star - Vlad Guerrero Jr

First Star - Dickie Thon


Boxes


Of note on Saturday Rowdy Tellez hit his 17th home run. Max Pentecost played his first game for Dunedin and homered in his first at-bat. He had two hits. Danny Jansen had two as well in the same game. Jon Harris had a not so good start, five runs scored off him in six innings. In Lansing, Angel Perdomo used 37 pitches in the first inning and was pulled. It continues to be an up and down season for Perdomo. Josh Palacios continued his torrid August. He was 3-4 with a triple. His OPS in August is well above 1000, 1067 after Saturdays game. In the GCL, Chavez Young had three extra base hits. The 39th round pick this year is 11-18 over the last four games and has raised his average from .048 to .308.

On Friday Casey Lawrence had an excellent start for Buffalo. Bo Schultz blew the save and took the loss next inning. In AA, Richard Urena, Jon Berti and Roemen Fields had three hits each. Shane Dawson had one of his best starts of the year, a three hitter over six innings. In Dunedin, Ryan McBroom had three hits and Francisco Rios took the loss out of the bullpen. It is Rios' second straight bullpen appearance, the Jays are likely limiting his innings. Palacios, Yelstin Gudino and Bryan Lizardo each had two hits for Vancouver.

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PeterG - Sunday, August 21 2016 @ 09:46 PM EDT (#329483) #
It was Connor Fisk who went 6 innings for Dunedin. He has had several good starts of late and his improvement has been worth noting. ERA now 3.35
Gerry - Sunday, August 21 2016 @ 09:49 PM EDT (#329484) #
Fixed, thanks.
John Northey - Sunday, August 21 2016 @ 11:39 PM EDT (#329485) #
Of note: Ex-Jays prospect Jeff Hoffman (traded for Tulo in case anyone forgot) got his rear end handed to him this week in his ML debut - 4 IP 7 H 7 R 6 ER 1 BB 2 SO and just for fun he K'ed in his only PA. The other guy sent there, Miguel Castro has a 6.14 ERA for Colorado in 14 2/3 IP and a 10.34 ERA in AAA in 15 2/3 IP having allowed 9 runs over his last 3 games (3 IP total) - ouch. Jesus Tinoco was the 3rd prospect in that trade and in A ball he had a 5.32 ERA and a 14.85 in A+ just 5.4 K/9 between the two levels too.

An old reminder that pitching prospects will break your heart. For every Thor you give up there will be dozens who look like those 3 do this year. Now Hoffman was good in AAA 4.02 ERA (PCL) 9.4 K/9 but that debut didn't make anyone happy. Well, maybe AA as he must feel a bit better when guys he gave up don't do as well as guys he kept or got.
bpoz - Monday, August 22 2016 @ 09:56 AM EDT (#329492) #
That is true John N. On the other side. The D Cone for 3 prospects trade got us nothing. The R Halladay trade, little I suppose.
I am just reviewing history.

Actually to continue. Cone and Halladay were considered high value players. But going back very far we got F McGriff for a pitcher. T Underwood or D Murray, I cannot remember. We were building or rebuilding at there times so we were looking for prospects.

Shatkins got prospects and a Major League SP for Hutch, at a time when the Jays are contenders. Nice philosophy IMO, using talent Hutch and money ( salary differential).
short - Monday, August 22 2016 @ 11:25 AM EDT (#329495) #
Saw this article on Jon Berti. Hopefully he can stay healthy and help the big club sometime soon!

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20160818/SPORTS0102/160819176/-1/sports0102
short - Monday, August 22 2016 @ 01:37 PM EDT (#329496) #
Here is one on DSJ...http://www.unionleader.com/article/20160822/SPORTS0102/160829882/-1/sports0102
jerjapan - Monday, August 22 2016 @ 03:42 PM EDT (#329498) #
Thanks for the links Short.  Both guys look like AAAA guys to me, but those guys have a chance and can have value due to their options.  Smith is only 23 but hasn't shown much in 2 years in AA - interesting comments in the article about his need to be in better shape. 
scottt - Monday, August 22 2016 @ 06:40 PM EDT (#329502) #
Smith doesn't strike out enough to be on the major leagues roster.
Mike Green - Monday, August 22 2016 @ 06:47 PM EDT (#329503) #
Reese McGuire is back in the lineup tonight. Evidently nothing too serious.
John Northey - Monday, August 22 2016 @ 07:32 PM EDT (#329505) #
I liked AA's approach - gather as many flamethrowers as you can and see who makes it. Yeah, more complicated than that but that was the visible core of it.

As to trades Cone is fun as we get 3 big trades and a free agent compensation with the Jays...
1992: traded for him costing Ryan Thompson (OF who never did much) & Jeff Kent - got a WS win so I guess it was worth a near HOF career :P
1992: lost as a free agent, drafted Matt Farner (OF who never got above A ball) and Tony Medrano (SS who never got past AAA - picked between Scott Rolen and Chris Singleton with Jeff Suppan picked after that)
1995: traded for him costing Tony Medrano (never left minors), Dave Sinnes (never left minors) and Chris Stynes (lifetime 87 OPS+ in 2574 PA, twice over 100 OPS+ both times cracking 120 - go figure, 3B/2B/LF).
1995: traded away getting Mike Gordon (minors), Jason Jarvis (minors) and Marty Janzen (98 2/3 IP 77 ERA+, very wild and HR prone)

So outside of Jeff Kent the rest of the prospects were not worth a lot with the possible exception of Chris Stynes thanks to 2 career years in an otherwise forgettable career. That was involving 3 trades and 2 compensation picks. If only they could've given up someone else like Sprague instead of Kent. Ah well.
Gerry - Monday, August 22 2016 @ 08:16 PM EDT (#329507) #
Ben Badler from BA is watching Conner Greene tonight. Here is a tweet: Blue Jays Double-A RHP Conner Greene 92-97 mph tonight. Not much command or quality offspeed yet.
johnny was - Monday, August 22 2016 @ 09:10 PM EDT (#329510) #
If you track back through all the transactions involving players the Jays got in the Halladay trade (Michael Taylor --> Brett Wallace --> Anthony Gose) the end result was that the team used Doc to get players that eventually resulted in the acquisition of Devon Travis.  It took awhile, but the deal looks a lot better now than it did in 2014.
uglyone - Monday, August 22 2016 @ 10:13 PM EDT (#329511) #
John I think even in the PCL hoffman's 4.15fip and 24k% is probably just OK, not good enough to demand a callup, and definitely not the numbers of an ace prospect.
John Northey - Monday, August 22 2016 @ 10:26 PM EDT (#329512) #
Halladay trade...
Travis d'Arnaud - became part of Dickey trade, has had injury issues up the wazoo as many expected towards the end of his time here. Just a 76 OPS+ this year in 199 PA.

Kyle Drabek - Flop - 81 ERA+ over past 4 years just threw 12 2/3 IP (2 this year for Arizona)

Michael Taylor - another flop, 34 OPS+ in 114 lifetime PA, hasn't played professionally since 2014. Was traded for Brett Wallace

Brett Wallace - failure, not flop but close, 95 OPS+ lifetime 80 this year in SD at 3B/1B/DH over 232 PA and at 29 not likely to be any better. Traded for Anthony Gose.

Anthony Gose - failure again, 82 OPS+ had plus defense but negative the last two seasons. Good speed but not a good basestealer. 71 OPS+ in Detroit this year in 101 PA just hitting 202/282/305 in minors this year. Traded for Devon Travis.

Devon Travis - Injury issues, but when healthy has hit. 122 OPS+ lifetime, 114 this year. By far the best non-Halladay player in the series of deals.

So it is a straight line from Halladay to Travis.
bpoz - Tuesday, August 23 2016 @ 12:17 PM EDT (#329529) #
To each his own way of thinking through a trade. I do not believe in thinking that way. Halladay .... D Travis. i am sure that we could have had Travis for any number of unproven prospects in AA or AAA. I think Detroit wanted someone ready to play in the Majors. Which means AA and/or AAA experience.

Gose for Travis happened after the 2014 season. Travis I think was blocked in Detroit. But then I think he was also considered to be one of their best prospects.

Gose was falling as a prospect in the Jays system. At the time of the trade D Pompey had risen as a prospect. Pillar was just an extra OF. This is my evaluation. So agree or disagree. The 2015 OF could have been Bautista, Pompey and Pillar also Gose. 3 unproven OFs is not good for a contender, I would think. So add Saunders.
All (this is) personal speculation by me. I am ok with trading the unproven Gose or Pillar for the unproven Travis. However I had high hopes for Pompey.
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