Game thread - 8/21 in New York

Wednesday, August 21 2013 @ 04:40 PM EDT

Contributed by: Gerry

Can the futility in the big apple end?  RA Dickey takes on Adam Warren.

Maicer Izturis has abadly swollen ankle, he could be headed to the DL unless it gets a lot better by tomorrow.  This season is starting to resemble last year.  The DL for the Jays includes Bautista, Rasmus, Melky, Johnson, Morrow and a bunch of relievers.  One third of the lineup (45% if Izturis goes on it) and 40% of the rotation are on the DL, the team isn't playing well, and the losses are beginning to mount up. 

Moises Sierra has been recalled but is not in the lineup.  Gose, Pillar and Davis are the outfield. 

The Buffalo Bisons have a shot at the playoffs but now a lot of their players are filling in for the Jays.

As Ryan Day noted in the minor league thread there is a stroy out of Boston about the Sox and John Farrell is quoted in there:

Sox manager John Farrell took questions from an audience at a seminar this week, including one about the difference between the Blue Jays and Red Sox: specifically, whether Farrell had noticed a difference in how the organizations develop pitchers.

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"We can have a seminar on this question — not just because it's Toronto and Boston," Farrell said. "There are very distinct differences and it starts, I think it starts, at the top. And the reason I say that: I found Toronto to be a scouting-based organization, which to me is on one plane, one-dimensional. You're looking at tools. Here, it's a player-development based system. It's the paths of the individuals that are running the organization. And that's not to be critical.

"We all know that there's three different veins in this game that people advance (through): baseball operations, scouting, player development. Well, in the player-development vein, you're going to look at things in three dimensions: mentally, physically, fundamentally to address and develop people, or develop an organization. I think as a scouting base, you go out and you evaluate the physical tools. And that's kind of where it ends, or that's the look at that time. That was my experience, that was my opinion."

 

That's a typical John Farrell comment, it sounds good, the words fit together, but try and decipher what it means.  It seems to say that Toronto is focused on tools in development while the Sox focus on more than that.  But what the more is I don't understand.

What pitchers have the Red Sox developed recently?  Felix Doubront?  Since Clay Buchholz came to the majors the Sawx have signed Ryan Dempster and John Lackey (because they didn't develop their own) and also picked up Allen Webster in a trade.  Is there any evidence to show that the Red Sox have been better than Toronto in developing pitchers recently?  I don't see it based on a quick review.

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