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All-time Blue Jays LF?

Al Woods '79 0 (0.00%)
Barry Bonnell '83 0 (0.00%)
George Bell '87 177 (86.34%)
Candy Maldonado'92 3 (1.46%)
Shannon Stewart '00 11 (5.37%)
Reed Johnson '06 14 (6.83%)
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Mick Doherty - Saturday, September 09 2006 @ 06:15 PM EDT (#155034) #
Looking for Otto Velez, Shawn Green, or some other Blue Jay LF of yore? Well, your candidate may appear on another list -- players are only eligible to appear in one positional vote!
Mick Doherty - Saturday, September 09 2006 @ 06:30 PM EDT (#155037) #
Whoops. To the few of you who voted in this poll when it was accidentally posted for a few minutes earlier, it has been cleared and you can vote again.

If you voted for Joe Carter, he has been removed since he clearly belongs in the RF poll per the comment above. Sorry!

Mike Green - Saturday, September 09 2006 @ 07:30 PM EDT (#155042) #
Hmm.  Not really much room for debate on this one.  Any occasion to see Al Woods name again makes it well worth doing. 
Mike Green - Saturday, September 09 2006 @ 07:39 PM EDT (#155043) #
It might be heretical to say it, but Bell didn't deserve the MVP.  McGwire, Boggs and Trammell all had better offensive seasons, and by 1987, Jorge was an average defensive leftfielder. 

He was fun to watch with a bat in his hands, though.

smcs - Saturday, September 09 2006 @ 07:41 PM EDT (#155044) #
Tony Fernandez appeared in both the SS poll and the 3B poll.
Pepper Moffatt - Saturday, September 09 2006 @ 08:00 PM EDT (#155046) #
"It might be heretical to say it, but Bell didn't deserve the MVP. "

I'll go even further than that - George Bell didn't even deserve to be *team* MVP in 1987.  When you factor in D, Tony Fernandez was a more valuable player.  If you allow for pitchers, you could make a decent argument that Jimmy Key was more valuable, though I don't know if I'd go that far.

Bell likely wasn't even one of the best 10 players in the American League in 1987 - but some people are just *so* impressed by gaudy HR totals, they can't help themselves.  Fortunately there weren't enough of them to give Cecil Fielder an MVP, though they came close.
Mick Doherty - Saturday, September 09 2006 @ 08:31 PM EDT (#155047) #
Tony Fernandez appeared in both the SS poll and the 3B poll.

Yes, that was a mistake. Fortunately, he didn't win both,  or come close to winning both!

Besides, Tony A and Tony B, per his trips through TOR, were two different guys. At least that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Magpie - Saturday, September 09 2006 @ 09:23 PM EDT (#155049) #
Bell likely wasn't even one of the best 10 players in the American League in 1987

I agree that Trammell should have won the MVP, but George was certainly one of the league's best players in 1987. Slugging .605, second only to McGwire, is not without value. The only categories he led the league in were RBI and Total Bases, but he was second in slugging, HRs, Runs Scored. And he chipped in 14 BaseRunner Kills from LF, just for fun.

The really interesting year is 1989. Bell was fourth in the MVP voting, and had 4 first place votes. He wasn't even in the Top 10 in most offensive categories (6th in Runs Scored, 6th in RBI). He didn't hit .300, he didn't even hit 20 homers. Looking back on that season from history's vantage point - I'm sure everyone is wondering how in hell George got more MVP votes than Fred McGriff.

Unless you were actually around and watching the team that year...


CaramonLS - Saturday, September 09 2006 @ 09:56 PM EDT (#155051) #
Well, this vote wont be close.
Magpie - Saturday, September 09 2006 @ 10:05 PM EDT (#155052) #
this vote wont be close.

Nor should it be. But take heart! The rest of the outfield will be fascinating! Devo or the Shaker? Jumpin' Joe or Jesse or Shawn?
6-4-3 - Saturday, September 09 2006 @ 11:07 PM EDT (#155057) #

I'm a big Devo fan, but I think that Vernon Wells circa 2003 will run away with the all-time Jays CF vote.

All time DH would be fun.  Looking at baseball reference, you get Molitor, Winfield, Canseco, Phelps and the surprisingly productive Cliff Johnson battling it out.

Geoff - Sunday, September 10 2006 @ 06:00 AM EDT (#155060) #
players are only eligible to appear in one positional vote!

I understand not having Shawn Green in LF but Carter spent plenty of time there in left (so Green could have his RF, the cheeky bastard) and accomplished more there in 1996 than others, say, Candy Maldonado. 

But what then puts Tony Fernandez above these rules? I say if you're selecting a player's particular season, no need to shy away from selecting two seasons of a player for the team. Not like Tony lost the SS vote before being cast on the 3B ballot either, so you know it's the right thing to do. Wouldn't you want Smoltz starting and closing for you? Biggio behind the plate and at 2B and in CF? Miguel Batista ...

Anyhow, I'm just being silly now.






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