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In 2015, who will be seen as the greatest shortstop in Blue Jay history?

Russ Adams 16 (13.91%)
Tony Batista 2 (1.74%)
Tony Fernandez 81 (70.43%)
Chris Gomez 3 (2.61%)
Alfredo Griffin 0 (0.00%)
Aaron Hill 10 (8.70%)
Manny Lee 0 (0.00%)
Dick Schofield 1 (0.87%)
Hector Torres 0 (0.00%)
Chris Woodward 2 (1.74%)
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Mick Doherty - Wednesday, August 24 2005 @ 11:49 AM EDT (#126441) #
Sorry, 1978 starting shortstop Luis Gomez, you may have played 153 games but you hit just .223, meaning you're not even the best Gomez to play shortstop in Jays' history. (And the poll functionality limits us to 10 choices, making you #11, sir!)
Jordan - Wednesday, August 24 2005 @ 01:11 PM EDT (#126457) #
Heh. Chris Gomez. Nice.

Are there any current Blue Jays who could someday be considered the best ever at their position? The O-Dog is terrific, but he'll never come close to Robbie Alomar. Alex Rios would have to put everything together to outstrip Jesse Barfield. Vernon's probably the best bet, and if he keeps up his current production level through the length of his contract, he'll top Devo and Shaker. That's it, though.
Four Seamer - Wednesday, August 24 2005 @ 01:43 PM EDT (#126461) #
Are there any current Blue Jays who could someday be considered the best ever at their position?

Halladay might one day surpass Stieb, although he'll have to continue to pitch effectively for a number of years yet to match Stieb's record of success. Third base has not traditionally been a source of strength for the Jays, so Aaron Hill, if he does end up there, might have a chance to be the best ever at that position.

Nigel - Wednesday, August 24 2005 @ 01:45 PM EDT (#126463) #
I'd like to vote but Felipe Lopez isn't on the ballot! :)

Actually, I think it comes down to Wells and Halladay as possibles for best ever at their position. If you look only at their current contracts then Wells has a better chance, but if its over a full career then I think Halladay has a good chance as well.
Craig B - Wednesday, August 24 2005 @ 01:55 PM EDT (#126467) #
If Wells plays five more years as a Blue Jay and plays as effectively as he has so far, he'll be past Moseby.

Lloyd - 1392 games, 50.3 Wins Above Replacement
Devon - 656 games, 33.2 Wins Above Replacement
V-Dub as of today - 631 games, 27.3 Wins Above Replacement
Shortstop - Wednesday, August 24 2005 @ 02:00 PM EDT (#126469) #
Fernandez will always get my vote. I adored him. But, i would like to mentioned Mike Bordick. Shortstop is my favorite position and it was quite the pleasure watching him play day in and day out. Not the most athletic player, but very smart and excellent reflexes. Too bad he retired, the Jays could have used him last year.

Rob - Wednesday, August 24 2005 @ 02:08 PM EDT (#126471) #
It's really hard to vote against Tony Fernandez here.
Ryan Day - Wednesday, August 24 2005 @ 02:18 PM EDT (#126473) #
It's not inconceivable that Adams, or even Hill, could end up as the best Jays shortstop. I don't think I'd bet much money on it, but they've both got the potential to have all-star careers.
Jordan - Wednesday, August 24 2005 @ 02:34 PM EDT (#126475) #
Third base has not traditionally been a source of strength for the Jays, so Aaron Hill, if he does end up there, might have a chance to be the best ever at that position.

Good point -- I'd been thinking that Koskie probably wouldn't measure up even to the likes of Kelly Gruber, but if Hill inherits third base and plays solidly for at least a few years, he could well end up as the franchise's best third baseman.

Rob - Wednesday, August 24 2005 @ 03:08 PM EDT (#126480) #
You know, Craig Grebeck did play six games at third base for Toronto.
Mike Green - Wednesday, August 24 2005 @ 03:08 PM EDT (#126481) #
You might think that O-Dog has no chance to surpass Alomar, but you'd be wrong. Alomar was far ahead at this stage of his career, but he did fade early. Second basemen sometimes reach their offensive peak in their early-mid 30s, and O-Dog certainly has a broad base of skills on which to build. The odds are certainly not in Orlando's favour, but I am not counting him out.

Roberto came up at age 20 and by age 27, he had accumulated 57.7 WARP of his 109.2 total. Orlando came up at age 24, and to date has 19.7 WARP.
Magpie - Wednesday, August 24 2005 @ 03:16 PM EDT (#126483) #
You might think that O-Dog has no chance to surpass Alomar, but you'd be wrong.

O-Dog has no chance to surpass Alomar. I'm not wrong. :-)

Jdog - Wednesday, August 24 2005 @ 03:40 PM EDT (#126484) #
How does Dick, Chris and Manny make this list and not our old friend Alex Gonzalez
Mike Green - Wednesday, August 24 2005 @ 03:51 PM EDT (#126486) #

O-Dog has no chance to surpass Alomar. I'm not wrong. :-)

On Orlando's list of age 26 BBRef comparables is Bret Boone. With O-Dog's large margin of defensive superiority over Alomar, if he develops like Boone did offensively, he could get there. How 'bout we take a look at the age 27 comparables after this season? I promise not to add O-Dog to the Hall Watch list until 2010 at the earliest!

Nigel - Wednesday, August 24 2005 @ 04:21 PM EDT (#126491) #
I'm really hoping that O-dog doesn't develop like Boone did :)
Mike Forbes - Wednesday, August 24 2005 @ 05:54 PM EDT (#126499) #
I decided to give Chris Gomez some love here. He was an exciting player, even if he wasn't the most talented. Wish we had've kept him over John McDonald...
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