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Come on. Admit it. You’ve done it. You’ve watched a player and smiled at his failures, either in the post-season or in the regular season—and not because he’s facing your favorite team. You’ve cheered at this player’s utter ineptitude to hit a breaking ball. At his astonishing lack of ability to field a ground ball. At his preposterous propensity to hang a slider or to deliver a non-sinking sinker during a close game. At his underachieving ways. Maybe you’ve even delighted in a player getting injured (as long as it’s not life-threatening). And if you claim to have never experienced this? Quit lying and fess up.

In that spirit, and in the spirit of the Batter’s Box Least Valuable Player Awards, I offer the “First Annual” Batter’s Box Schadenfreude Awards. You don’t have to provide a reason why you are happy when your player fails; sometimes we like players for irrational reasons, so it stands to reason we can dislike players for irrational ones. It may be his swing. His pitching motion. His arrogance. His public comments. His surliness. His nose hair. Whatever. It doesn’t matter.

But, of course, there are the completely rational reasons we dislike players, such as the ones I mentioned above. To wit: Blue Jays fans no doubt have their reasons for wishing Raul Mondesi, Jose Cruz, Alex Gonzalez, and other underachieving malcontents to fall flat on their asses. It doesn’t have to be an ex-Jay, of course. It can be an opponent who has beat up on your team one too many times. You are not limited in quantity, either. If there are multiple players who make you smile widely when they fail, list them here. Again, there are no rules, no requirements other than that purest of human emotions: taking pleasure in other people’s misfortunes.

Further, there are those players who just kill us when they succeed. So, in conjunction with the award for the person we most like to see fail, we will open the virtual floor to discussion of the Anti-Schadenfreude Award: the person we most hate to see succeed. (He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named for Blue Jays fans may win the AL Cy Young Award, and, judging by the overwhelming antipathy displayed for Mr. L----- here on Da Box, E------ is automatically disqualified.) And the same rules/lack of rules apply here: there are no rules; nothing is required but that other purest of human emotions: jealousy/hatred of another person’s success.

And so, to get the ball rolling, I present my Schadenfreude winner, the player I not-so-secretly root for to fail, and have taken great pleasure in his absurd talent at failing/getting hurt/making an ass of himself. I like to call this player “Jeremy Giambi,” for reasons I’ve outlined so many times I won’t repeat here. As for my Anti-Schadenfruede winner, my vote goes to Barry Bonds. I don’t care how great he is—and he IS obviously great, arguably the greatest ever—I can’t stand him.

Remember: there are no winners here. But there are many losers.

Let the bitching begin.
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_Mark - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 02:53 AM EDT (#78760) #
Schadenfreude Awards: G Sheffield (that comment about how he tanked throws for the Brewers in the early 90s did it). Basically the entire Twins team, their quasi-cheating HFA, their small-ball, slap-hitting ways, their defeat of the Jays in 1991. Mondesi: pure overratedness and overpaidness. T Wakefield: what is that 60 mph stuff anyway. The Braves: snore. Sosa: I just find him to be insincere. I could be wrong, just don't like his act.

Plus an honorary award to all the druggies, cheaters and juicers (but I repeat myself)

P.S. Did anyone notice C Lidle finished LAST among MLB ERA qualifiers?

P.P.S., What's wrong with me... it's 3:00 am and I'm wide awake... still pumped from game 7 I think!
_Cristian - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 03:27 AM EDT (#78761) #
My favorite sequence in baseball right now.

1. McCarver going on and on about Jeter being a great defensive shortstop.
2. Jeter flubs an easy play
3. Cut to Jeter's VISA commercial
_A - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 03:41 AM EDT (#78762) #
I call brutality on Todd Walker's throw that didn't even land in what could be considered the vacinity of first base.

That and Gary Matthew's Jr. giving up the inside the parker.

...Now that I think about it, I'll add one more: the Baltimore player (I forget his name) who slipped and was tagged out by the Yankees close to home. The kicker is that before he fell, there wasn't a defensive player at the plate to take a throw or tag him out AND that run would have won them the game, if I'm not mistaken.
_Cristian - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 04:38 AM EDT (#78763) #
The Baltimore player in question is stathead darling Jack Cust if I'm not mistaken.
_Steve Birnie - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 08:22 AM EDT (#78764) #
I know I might be going against the spirit of the award, but two teams immediately spring to mind:

Schadenfreude award: The Braves. Their continual post-season failures are just fascinating in a car-wreck kinda way. Plus the tomahawk chop is annoying as hell.

Anti-schadenfreude award: The Yankees, of course.

If I had to pick players...for Schadenfreude I'll say JASON Giambi. After deserting Oakland for the big money, it warms my heart when he fails in big situations in the post-season, and to hear the Yankee fans boo.

For Anti-Schadenfreude: Rickey Henderson would be my all-time pick, but since he's just hanging on these days, why kick a man when he's down? I could pick any number of ex-Jays (Wells, Clemens, even Jay Gibbons who always seems to be at his best against Toronto), but since that's too obvious, I'll say Manny Ramirez. He's blessed with extraordinary talent, but is a chronic loafer (doesn't run out ground balls) and during this post-season I got the impression that he really doesn't care if his team wins or not.
Craig B - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 09:47 AM EDT (#78765) #
My Schadenfreude award pick is Bobby Higginson. The 119 losses couldn't have happened to a more appropriate guy. After whining and moaning about his treatment for what seems like ages, to watch him play so poorly this year, and suffer 119 losses to boot, brought a thin little smile to my face.

Second place to Jeff Torborg. I hope every Marlins celebration cuts that guy like 1000 kinves.

Third place to Tony LaRussa, who managed to genius his Cardinals right out of a playoff spot (how do you do that with four superstars in the lineup?), and his caddy and professional lickspittle Mike Matheny.

Fourth place is Lenny Harris, who was so godawful this year.

Honorable mentions? Carl Crawford, Fernando Tatis, the New York Mets (is God wreaking some sort of punishment against Mike Piazza? Poor guy), Roger Cedeno, Royce Clayton.

Reverse Schadenfreude? So many candidates. There's Milton Bradley, George Steinbrenner, Guillermo Mota, Randall Simon (did he succeed, or fail? So hard to tell), Brad Fullmer, Alex Gonzalez. I got a bitter little ray of sunshine out of Ron Calloway flopping when FREE TERRMEL SLEDGE was ready and waiting all year. Also The Unmentionable One, E.L.

It's so hard to pick one! In the end, I went with the Boston Red Sox. The whole year was galling... I never knew the extent to which my contempt for the Red Sox masked a real dislike, made all the worse by the fact I really identify with teir fans' suffering. For some reason, watching them win really bugged me, and the way they were acting in the playoffs... man.

I'm glad the Yankees won. It's not often you'll hear me say that.
_Rusty Priske - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 09:49 AM EDT (#78766) #
I can't really discribe the ways I loathe Pedro Martinez. It is almost palpable.
Craig B - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 10:26 AM EDT (#78767) #
Amidst all this, if you haven't done so, don't forget to vote for the Batter's Box Blue Jay Players of the Year.
Craig B - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 10:28 AM EDT (#78768) #
(I extended the voting deadline to 12 hours from now, since I forgot to mention this earlier in the week).
robertdudek - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 11:06 AM EDT (#78769) #
Anti-Schadenfreude: Garry Kasparov - the most egotistical chess player since Bobby Fischer. The two of them have done more to bring world class chess into disrepute than everyone else combined (and that's something, considering one of the greatest players ever was a Nazi sympathiser during WW II) ... Oh, baseball ...

The entire Yankees organisation for both Schad and Anti-Schad. More specifically, David Wells for Schadenfreude - anyone who can shoot off his mouth about former teammates and current teammates (in his book) has to be a first-class jerk - it's appropriate that he'll be most remembered as a Yankee.

Schadenfreude - Tim McCarver/Derek Jeter. These two are linked in my consciousness because of the regular fawning McCarver provides the always visible Jeter. Jeter is a good player, but you'd think he's the second coming of Honus Wagner for all the praise and attention he gets.
_lurker - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 11:24 AM EDT (#78770) #
I take particular joy in watching Cruz Jr. fail miserably. It's a combination of JP being vindicated from critical fans and the fact Cruz has always been overrated at both the plate and in the field.

Wait, the real reason I can't stand him is that he lollygags around like everything he does is a Sunday stroll in the park. He throws rainbows back to the infield like he's still warming his arm up and he has a general air of someone can't be bothered to try.
_lurker - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 11:28 AM EDT (#78771) #
Oh, and I also love it when Tim McCarver looks stupid. It happens a lot too so there's much to enjoy.

Typical McCarver moment:
*pitcher throws an 81MPH changeup*
McCarver: (oblivious to the radar gun and the fact the pitch has zero movement) There's another splitter!
*replay is shown of pitch*
McCarver: *refrains from correcting himself*

Sometimes (all of the time) I find it hard to believe he played pro-baseball.
_Jordan - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 11:47 AM EDT (#78772) #
Schad: Defensive whiz Alex Gonzalez, Chicago Cubs, NLCS Game 6, 8th inning.

Anti-Schad: Since I can't vote for the Necromancer, here's one big, World-Series-sized vote for Jeffrey Stinkin' Loria.
_shill - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 11:58 AM EDT (#78773) #
I couldn't agree more Lurker...

In a fit of anger after the 2000 season, I predicted that no team would ever win with Jose Cruz Jr. in the outfield. I predicted at the same time that no team would ever win with Alex Gonzalez as a shortstop. Whatever talent they have is for naught relative to their frequent mental lapses and poor focus. Kudos to JP for also recognizing this. Those guys only produce when the game is NOT on the line. Does anyone keep any stats on career "pop to thirds" ? How 'bout pop to thirds + GIDP's + K's with RISP? I'd be willing to wager that Cruz Jr. is the league leader there over the past three years. I might also wager that Gonzalez is a close second.

It did not suprise me one bit when Cruz Jr. dropped that fly ball against the Marlins (costing the Giants the game) and when Gonzalez booted that grounder (possible double play ball?) that would have prevented the eight run inning and likely put the Cubs in the show. Neither one of them could focus mentally after the play that immediately preceeded... in the Giant's case... Cruz's horrible strikeout with RISP... and in Gonzalez' case... the infamous Cubs fan touching the ball (side note: What was that fan supposed to do? Hold the rest of the fans back and let Moises make the play? That ball was practically in his lap. Moises' tantrum was a joke. All that fan can be blamed for is not making the grab. If I was that guy I'd be embarassed NOT for costing the Cubs a shot as the WS... but rather for not making the play. Jeesh. Any good fan makes that catch.) Anyways... point being... no one would be talking about the Cubs fan if Gonzalez makes that routine play.

That said... I don't really actively root for these guys (or anyone.. ok... scratch that... maybe the Red Wings) to fail... but am not suprised when these guys do...
Mike D - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 12:05 PM EDT (#78774) #
Schadenfreude Awards:

1. John Rocker, Devil Rays (heh, heh). An easy choice.
2. Pedro Astacio, Mets. Failure couldn't have happened to a gentler soul.
3. Jeremy Giambi, Red Sox. Right with you, Gitz.
4. Felipe Lopez, Reds. I can't imagine him ending up in the Anti-Schadenfreude camp.
5. Drew Henson, Yankees (Texans?). So many machinations for so little production.

Anti-Schadenfreude Awards:

1. (Remains blank as per Gizzi's outlawing of E------ L-----)
2. Roger Clemens, Yankees.
3. Manny Ramirez, Red Sox.
4. Shea Hillenbrand, Diamondbacks.
5. J.D. Drew, Cardinals.
_lurker - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 12:44 PM EDT (#78775) #
Shill: Cruz leads in career pops to third? I beg to differ! He leads in one-handing offspeed pitches weakly to 2nd base in my universe.
Coach - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 12:48 PM EDT (#78776) #
The 119 losses couldn't have happened to a more appropriate guy.

Maybe one. Jeff Weaver, the only player on the 2002 Tigers who was a bigger jerk than Higginson, would have looked good going down with the ship in Detroit, but happily, he failed even more spectacularly on a much bigger stage. A huge thank you to whoever enforces the karma rules for baseball.

the player I not-so-secretly root for to fail, and have taken great pleasure in his absurd talent at failing/getting hurt/making an ass of himself.

Weaver is in a (low) class by himself, but I agree with Gitz that Jeremy Giambi is the poster boy for "character issues" and a huge disappointment, so he finishes in a dead-heat for second on my scorecard. I just can't decide between Little G. and Felipe Lopez.

Handed the Jays' starting shortstop job, and gifted with Tejada-like tools, F-Lop parlayed a rotten work ethic and a lot of late nights with Raul Mondesi into a ticket out of town. Given a new lease on his baseball life by the Reds this year, F-Lop continued to ignore coaches and curfews until he was farmed out to AAA, where he pouted. I'm not one to hold a grudge against foolish youthful mistakes, so if he ever turns his life around and makes use of his considerable talent, he'll be off this list. Until then, he's a perennial Schadenfreude contender.

I bear no ill will to Alex Gonzalez or Jose Cruz Jr., whose main "crimes" as Blue Jays were swinging at 58-foot curveballs and getting too expensive. But watching Jose fall down, and muff an easy pop fly, at two critical playoff moments, then seeing Gonzo personify the Cubs' futility at the critical moment, gave me a strange sort of pleasure -- an "I'm glad you're gone" sensation.

John "I hope we strike" Burkett is always fun to watch fail. Larry Bowa, Jeff Torborg, Bud Selig, Phil Cuzzi, Kerwin Danley and way too many other umpires -- I guess I'm just a nasty, vindictive person, because my list is long.

On the Anti-Schadenfruede side, he-who-must-not-be-named grates more because of his utter indifference as a Blue Jay than his mediocre performance, and he'll always be a dis-honourary unmentionable. But in the last week, in just one inning, Pedro Martinez came from out of nowhere to pass perennial "winner" Roger Clemens for my 2003 vote among players. Apologies to Larry Jones, who's always in the hunt and could break through next year. Milton Bradley makes himself very hard to root for, even though he was great for a couple of my fantasy teams this year.

There's a common misunderstanding around here that I dislike Shannon Stewart. It's not true. I hate that he was paid so much, and that he gave back so many extra outs and extra bases in the outfield, his considerable offensive contributions were partially negated. While the talk of him being an MVP candidate was downright silly (he's not in the top 20) his success in Minnesota was well deserved, and will allow him to be overpaid again the next few years. Good for him.

My lifetime Anti-Schadenfruede award goes to Jeffrey Loria. It's really too bad that the Marlins, a deserving team, are owned by such a despicable scumbag. By comparison, George Steinbrenner is a saint. Loria and his lawyers may wriggle free of the fraud charges, but if there is any karmic justice, he will end up broke, disgraced and in jail, and I will dance for joy.
_Mick - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 01:46 PM EDT (#78777) #
I know there's a lot of anti-Weaver sentiment, and let's face it, for all his talent the guys is 51-63 lifetime. (At the same age, Boomer Wells was 25-18.) But I would be shocked if this guy, who just turned 27, doesn't win between 150 and 200 games in the big leagues. Sure, I'd be happier if he did it in pinstripes, but whether he ends up in Texas or Atlanta or whatever ... he will win.

Because shadyfreud is hard to spell, I'd like to suggest we re-name this the "Will Clark Award." :-)
_Marco - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 01:51 PM EDT (#78778) #
As a Jays fan in Chicago, I've gotta give this award to about 2/3rds of the Cubs players. Top on the list of course is Sammy "I-grabbed-the-wrong-bat" Sosa. A close second is Alou, with his temper tantrum after "the fan" incident, and his childish response to umpiring of the ball vs. the Cards that hit the chalk being called foul. Kerry Wood for not caring about anything but his stats-taking him 130 pitches to finish 6 innings-but don't worry, he got his 10 K's. Aramis Ramirez for making Eric Hinske look like a perennial gold glover. Carlos Zambrano for his showing up of Bonds and every other player he gets out. Alfonseca and his 6 fingers. Ok, that might have been over the line.
Especially all the fairweather Cubs fans out there who knew nothing about the team in April, but suddenly have loved the Cubs for years come October. Watching them lose gave me much of the same pleasure I get in watching the Jays win.
Craig B - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 02:13 PM EDT (#78779) #
I would be shocked if this guy, who just turned 27, doesn't win between 150 and 200 games in the big leagues.

Mick, I will bet you $1000 that Weaver retires with less than 150 wins. Let's get this done.
_Mick - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 03:44 PM EDT (#78780) #
Craig, if I didn't work for a company that has lost more than four billion dollars over the last two fiscal years, I'd take the bet.

Besides, I'd have a whole bunch of qualifiers (barring injury, barring a John Rocker-like political implosion, etc.) -- you know full well I was shorthanding the comment above.

The odds are certainly against Weaver winning 99 more games, just as the odds are against Halladay winning 99 more games. I'm not comparing the two, talent-wise; I'm just saying there are too many things that can happen.

Still, barring injury, I would be surprised if Weaver doesn't end up in Rick Sutcliffe territory (53 wins at 27, 171 career wins).
_Mick - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 03:48 PM EDT (#78781) #
P.S. I once predicted that Frank Pastore would be the next Tom Seaver when the two were teammates with the Reds. Pastore finished his career out of the bigs at 28 years old at 48-58, more Weaver than Seaver.
Coach - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 05:49 PM EDT (#78782) #
The thing about Weaver is, he should be winning. With his stuff, all he has to do is avoid thinking, which he's not very good at. He choked on the Big Apple, and desperately needs a change of scenery. But he also needs to grow up, and there's no guarantee he will. If I was running a second-division team, and could get the Yankees to pay most of his salary, I'd trade for him, because he does look like a 20-game winner from the neck down. One day, in the right situation, he may stop being his own worst enemy.
_mathesond - Friday, October 17 2003 @ 09:09 PM EDT (#78783) #
Marco - wow, I thought I was the only Jays fan in Chicago! What part of town to you live in? (I'm in Lakeview, about a mile walk from Wrigley).

Players I love to see fail - Pretty much the entire Yankees, Braves, and red Sox rosters - more by virtue of their uniforms than anything else. On an individual basis, though, Mondesi and Manny Ramirez top the list. Also Steve Trachsel, if only because he's so slow

Players I hate to see succeed - Jeff Kent, Chris Carpenter, and Mike Sirotka
_Jerry Falwell - Tuesday, October 28 2003 @ 09:25 PM EST (#78784) #
(is God wreaking some sort of punishment against Mike Piazza? Poor guy)

Finally the truth can be spoken.
_Marc - Tuesday, October 28 2003 @ 10:36 PM EST (#78785) #
Mike D. owns anti-Schads: Clemens and Manny (or as somebody once said, Mammy) Ramirez.

As a Twins fan, my Schad is always tied to 2B: Tommy Herr and Steve Lombardozzi and Bernie Allen (because as Purdue QB he beat the U. of Minnesota in their national championship season of 1960) and also because his once famously dissed a buddy of mine. Two bums and a pretty classy guy who however went out with a whimper.
_EdsterB - Wednesday, October 29 2003 @ 09:42 AM EST (#78786) #
My Schad is a newcomer to the list ... Johnny Damon. I'm a lifelong Royals fan, and Damon pretty much forced his way out of town with the common "I want to play for a winner" line. It gives me no small measure of satisfaction to see his teams bow out short of the WS, and I get even more joy out of the fact that the Royals have become winners without him.

My response to players who demand to be traded or refuse to resign with their current teams in free agency because they "want to play for a winner" is: Shut up and make YOUR team a winner. Set an example, and make the players around you better.
_EdsterB - Wednesday, October 29 2003 @ 09:43 AM EST (#78787) #
My Schad is a newcomer to the list ... Johnny Damon. I'm a lifelong Royals fan, and Damon pretty much forced his way out of town with the common "I want to play for a winner" line. It gives me no small measure of satisfaction to see his teams bow out short of the WS, and I get even more joy out of the fact that the Royals have become winners without him.

My response to players who demand to be traded or refuse to resign with their current teams in free agency because they "want to play for a winner" is: Shut up and make YOUR team a winner. Set an example, and make the players around you better.
_EdsterB - Wednesday, October 29 2003 @ 09:46 AM EST (#78788) #
And I feel so strongly, I posted it twice! Sorry!
_sef - Monday, November 24 2003 @ 01:38 PM EST (#78789) #
I hate the Red Sox.

erm, what was the question again?
_BobG - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 04:17 PM EST (#78790) #
Schad - Roger Clemens, I loved the multiple failures leading up to win 300.
Anti-Schad - Steinbrenner - I hate to see him and the Yankees win the AL East every freakin' year, and guy his way to the WS. Atleast I can take pleasure in the fact that they haven't won the big prize in a few years now.
_BobG - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 04:20 PM EST (#78791) #
Sorry, I meant BUY his way into the WS. (not guy) I'm sure you all figured it out anyways.
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