Yo, the diamond cam is GOLD when at work.

2-0 Sox, bases still juiced. They need to keep the runs coming.

I always thought the Yankee approach against Martinez was to work the count, get him up to 100 pitches, and get him out of the game.

See what I mean? The very next batter for the yanks hit it out of the park.

Sox blew a big chance in the 1st to get a cushion. They better capitalize on their next opportunity, if it ever comes.

What is this Diamond Cam that Grimlock is speaking of?

During Tony Clark at-bats I encourage everyone to join Jobu, bird droppings, Useless Tyler and myself in calling out "Toooonyyyyyyyy" in old woman voices.

It's the camera that Fox uses to show up close shots of the batter. It's in a little hole directly in front of home plate.

Earlier in the playoffs during a game, Posada didn't like it (he thought a bunted ball might hit it, or something), so he A) buried it, then when that was fixed by a Fox worker, he B) attempted to bury it again, and "accidentally" stomped on it. If you go to mlb.com, you can watch the entire game from the Diamond Cam.

I think Him Grimlock is referring to that camera view from grass level. It's sort of the view you'd have of the game if you were a gopher.

Wow, it's like MLB.TV for rodents. What happens when the ball is put in play? You can really see how Jeter exaggerates on balls on the corner -- like his strikeout right there, bending down as if it's in the dirt, called strike three.

Sound quality sucks sometimes, though. Keeps skipping and going black for 15 seconds. And I guess it's not that great if the play isn't at the plate -- I'm just going off what Joe Buck says.

What happens when the ball is put in play?

You hope that the commentators describe the play well.

It's not bad though, if you're working at a computer and would prefer to have some video content. Plus, it's 100% Scooter free, and that has to be a big plus.

I just want you all to know that I am personally responsible for last night's Sox victory.

During the ninth inning of last night's game, I decided that I better put on my Red Sox cap and Ortiz 34 t-shirt (the latter purchased just outside Fenway, the former from a shady street vendor in the Quincy Market area). Sure enough, the Sox scored to send the game to the tenth. In the top of the tenth, I got cold and put on my UNB hoody.

So, the hoody comes on for the top of each inning, and off to reveal the Ortiz 34 t-shirt for the bottom of each inning. Ortiz being the hero of last night's game was, of course, a sign; an attestation from a higher power that my frantic hoody donning and doffing was the determining factor.

I am keeping up the custom as I right this.

it's 100% Scooter free

Oh no. I'll still hear him. I'll be saved the stupid graphics, but I'll still hear "a changeup is a just fastball that goes really really slowly." Which is, of course, wrong.

as I right this

I mean, "as I write this. It's certainly not a wrong to be righted.

Hey, no online commercials. Cool. I get to watch the warmup pitches.
Or not. Posada is frozen with his arm cocked back to throw right now, as he has been for 30 seconds.

It's certainly not a wrong to be righted.

I believe you're wright!

a fastball that goes really really slowly

That's not a change-up. That's an oxymoron.

Or just a moron?

Posada is frozen with his arm cocked back to throw right now, as he has been for 30 seconds.

Nothing's wrong. He's just having one of his spells...

It's certainly not a wrong to be righted.

Some would say it's a rite of passage...

Almonte makes that play.

If you go to mlb.com, you can watch the entire game from the Diamond Cam.

WHAT!!?!!?

Link? Anyone? Bueller?

This thread is starting to bring back memories of Asterix & Obelix.

Another great play by Mr. Clutch!

Hey, he made an error. It happens. Don't sound so amazed, it doesn't require lots of exposition and explanation.

"Don't you know hard all this is?" (Ted Williams)

Never mind; I found it. On the front page!

Wow, cool!

Diamond Cam update: I have seen nothing this inning except various still shots of Manny and Millar standing in the batter's box. Ortiz was not seen at all.

Link? Anyone? Bueller?
MLB.com homepage, Craig. It should be right there. It skips a lot, though. Better than nothing, I suppose.

Shall I assume from the posts that Jeter muffed a grounder?

Shall I assume from the posts that Jeter muffed a grounder?

Routine play, didn't get the hop he expected, and it ran up his arm.

McCarver seemed to think than an event like this required extensive explanation.

An excellent explanation of the changeup by Al Leiter, and then he falls at the very last hurdle. A changeup isn't slower because of slower arm speed.

Love watching the warmup pitches.

OK, how cool is this?
Diamond Cam in upper-left corner.
Gameday in bottom-left, with baserunners and defenders visible. It's about 10 seconds ahead of the video, though.
And BB open on the rest of the page. Good computerized baseball afternoon.

Hey, who's that catching behind the plate right now? Craig? Anyone who has the Diamond Cam on?

McCarver seemed to think than an event like this required extensive explanation.

Jeter, Son of Jeter does Not make mistakes.

That is, before Tek took over. ;)

A changeup isn't slower because of slower arm speed.
Right. It's because Scooter talks in a slower voice when he explains it.

I forgot Pedro was pitching today. I can't see him, after all...
The Boston 'pen must be wasted today. Can you imagine a Grady situation in this game, but one that is defensible? Leaving in a gassed Pedro rather than bringing in the bad Mendoza: tough call.

Specifically? I don't know, didn't recognize him. He wasn't wearing a uniform as far as I could tell, which means it wasn't a coach.

When the catcher is last to hit or was on the bases when the inning ended, and doesn't get his gear on in time to warm up the pitcher, there's a guy in the dugout designated as the warmup catcher (or, sometimes, the bullpen catcher comes out, but that doesn't happen much now that the pens are mostly in the OF instead of down the lines).

It can be a coach or a member of the staff, whoever, but it's a designated guy for the most part.

My strange imagination thought some guy had jumped Varitek and nobody noticed. Then he settles in to catch Pedro, who's too nuts to tell his own catcher from Generic Guy in Sweats anyway.

You know, my hatred for Al Leiter's blisters are somewhat alleviated by my love for Al Leiter's Keep McCarver Silent attempts.

An excellent explanation of the changeup by Al Leiter, and then he falls at the very last hurdle.

I think he was rushing to finish his explanation and all he got out was "the most important thing is the arm speed..."

Because that's what the hitter sees, and thinks "YUM! Fastball...aww, crap."

Captain Intangibles is having a tough day...

Pedro Martinez has thrown 66 pitches. Tick tick tick tick tick . . .

I'm surprised at all the skipping on the Diamondcam feed, I don't think that happened yesterday.

And I'm glad I'm not the only one who still thinks of the word "blister" whenever Leiter does his analysis. He did good work with the circle-change, though.

I tell ya, baseball on TV needs more up-close shots of Jeff Kellogg's ass while he dusts off the plate.

my hatred for Al Leiter's blisters

I know a lot of Toronto fans are still bitter about that, but what did it actually cost the team? He was being paid roughly the ML minimum during those seasons. Eventually he got well enough to help win a World Series, which makes up for a lot of aggravation in my book.

The Blue Jays spent more money on Ken Dayley ($3.8 million in two years) than they spent on Al Leiter (roughly $2.3 million in six plus years) during their respective Toronto careers.

I remember Toronto used to have Josh Phelps catch the warm-up pitches when Cash or Myers or whoever was on base or on deck.... Always cool considering his roots.

I was hoping one day to see Carlos out there when he was DH, but no such luck.

It's a shame Damon's hair can't help him hit the ball.

McCarver: "What if Alex Rodriguez's contract was approved by the Boston Red Sox and the player's union? Would the Yankees still have made that trade?"

Um, probably not, Tim.

82 pitches. Looks like Pedro's got one more, then it's . . . Wakefield time? Myers? Mendoza?

I think McCarver's getting dumber by the game. Come to think of it, I'd love to see him get the Simpsons treatment. They could show clips of him from 1995 on ABC, show yearly clips from his Fox years, show lovey-dovey clips of his coverage of Jeter . . . comic gold, it would be.

We need Scooter to explain a brushback?

How dumb do they think we are?

But after the pitch to Matsui, and with Mussina on the mound, I suddenly feel nervous about calling the Under in the Ejections Pool. :-)

Is Scooter not for chiildren? I mean, if it's for a 7 year old, then explaining what a "brushback pitch" is or describing a change-up as a slow fastball seems very acceptable, albiet annoying for older viewers

Is Scooter not for chiildren?

Sure, but how many kids that age are up that late? Today OK, but Scooter's usually doing his thing around 10:00 PM.

good point

This is brutal. No game on the radio. My roomamtes didn't want cable. Now I'm stuck "following" (literally b/c of how behind I am on it)the game by continously reloading the MLB.COM scoreboard page. Who would've thought my life would come to this. There has to be a better way.

Don't get me started on post-season baseball games where they throw the first pitch at 8:30... I want to hear Scooter's thoughts on that! :-)

So is anyone playing Dire Straits?

I think I'm starting to loose it. Scooter just appeared on my computer screen. He's telling me to yell at my cheap room mates for not getting cable.

O, Now he's telling me to get coffee.

I'm watching via the internet in class and see Pedro is up to 95 pitches...please tell me someone is up in the pen...

Mrs. Clutch does in Pedro....

To me, Jeter-bashing is as annoying and misguided as lionizing Jeter is. He's a very good ballplayer. Overrated or no, that much has always been true.

Dammit. That was one of the worst page reloads ever.

please tell me someone is up in the pen...

Now - after the Rodriguez HBP - Timlin and Meyers jump up.

I'm tellin you... these Yankees are mature, and thanks to the Care Bears, are not even thinking of starting a brawl.

Honorary Care Bears
Clutch Bear
Cheff Bear
Quarter-Billionaire Bear
Japanese Bear
Tall Bear
and a whole litter of ex-Jay baby bears

To defend Jeter-bashing. He is a very smug guy. And i find him very very irritating.

I say Mrs. Clutch, but I think the guy is pretty awesome. Not necessarily for his abilities, but rather for his spirit and effort. He's always into the games, jumps out of the Dugout when the Yanks win, pumps his fist a lot.... put me in the "pro-Jeter when he's not against the Jays" camp.

I am only lookoing at Gameday but why wasn't Pedro ejecting after hitting A-Rod ( his 2nd) right after giving up a 3-run double? Looks like retailiation to me.

Fox deduced it was intentional, yet no warning was issued (that I saw), and Rodriguez seemed to take it all in stride. We'll see what happens if the first 2 Sox get out, whether Mussina puts it up and in... but for now, nothing.

Thanks DG, it just irritates me that Doc gets pulled for lesser stuff but maybe the ump handles the issue diffrently or he just doesn't want to cause bad blood.

McCarver: "Pavano was traded for Pedro once...but not by Epstein"

oh

I don't know the voices too well, was it Tim McCarver saying that only 1 player batted 300 with 2 strikes, "It changes your whole approach"...

Well, here is a challenge in the face of conventional wisdom in the true spirit of Moneyball (stats pointing out that your eyes lie to you)...

Maybe Batters SHOULDN'T change their approach to the plate when they have two strikes... maybe they should just swing away..

afterall, a LOT more than 1 batter is hitting 300 with "the normal approach"...

Caino are you in Toronto, I think the FAN was picking up the game at 7:30 or something....

P.S. I assume you have a technical reason for not using one of the "Gametracks" functions on ESPN.com, Fox or one of the others...

Nice "Britney Spears" style of singing!!!!

Wow. A lip sync God Bless America. I've never seen that before.

Wow. A lip sync God Bless America. I've never seen that before.

Somewhere in the clouds Rob Pilatus is smiling.

"Trusted Reliever" and "Tanyon Sturtze" used together.... oh boy oh boy oh boy.....

P.S. I assume you have a technical reason for not using one of the "Gametracks" functions on ESPN.com, Fox or one of the others...

OIC, diamond cam... just crashes me though...

At last years Grey Cup Canadian Idol 1 Winner Ryan Malcolm lip synched the Canadian National Anthem.

Tenrun in only for a single batter? Hoooo-boy. Torre's yanking some levers tonite.

Jeter-bashing.

I think much of it is because of the way very visible broadcasters and writers seem to fawn over him. To excess. Beyond what is appropriate and deserved.

Jeter is a great player, and there is Jeter-bashing that tries to deny it. He's not as great a hitter as Alex Rodriguez, sure - but he's a terrific offensive player, his game is absolutely complete, and he plays one of the most important defensive positions on the field. In other words, he's the Paul Molitor of his era.

It will be said that he doesn't play his position all that well. Its almost certainly true that he doesn't play it as well as the best defensive shortstops, and it may be that he doesn't play it as well as any of the other shortstops either. Let's hear from our defensive experts.

I would suggest that everything is relative - even if Jeter were the worst defensive SS in today's AL, its not like being the worst in the NL in 1986. Nobody anymore is trying to get away with someone like Hubie Brooks or Howard Johnson at short.

Some of it has got to be...I dunno...envy? He's too damn perfect. He's young, rich, talented, handsome, plays in New York, and his team won the WS in four of his first five seasons. Ernie Banks never even played in a world series. Doesn't seem quite right.

But I think a lot of Jeter-bashing is a reflexive response to the excessive Jeter-worship we hear so often at this time of year. We're tired of it, and we may also suspect the fact that we hear it so often may mean there's something to it...

A guy like McCarver or Morgan seems to us excessively impressed by the "intangibles" by a player who does the "little things" right. The big things, we think, are more important. And they are.

But McCarver and Morgan both spent roughly twenty years in the MLs and one of the things that catchers and infielders hear over and over from their coaches and managers is how important the little things are. Its the only thing you can truly work on, the only thing you can do right just by hustling and being smart. You can't hit a fastball hard just because you want to, but you can be in position to relay a throw.

Jeter always gets that part of the game right. On the very last day of the season, in the third inning of an absolutely meaningless game, he hustled all the way over to the third base line, got himself into perfect position to take a throw from the LF corner, and threw out a runner at the plate.

And that kind of thing impresses former major leaguers to no end. They know how hard it is to bother with that stuff, I guess.

That was a lip sync? Ha, I just thought my internet feed was slightly behind with the audio.

I think it may be more the audio in Fenway is really bad.... I seem to remember there being a big delay when, through either TV or diamond cam, you hear the public announcer announce the batter, and then moments later, it is finally projected loudly throughout the stadium. Not to mention, if it was a lip synch, You'd think that the girl would have been more even with the words than she was.

I vote for it being not-lip-sunch (or maybe it was, but the audio difference was likely the stadium)

P.S. Nice post Magpie. I agree on all levels.

Caino are you in Toronto, I think the FAN was picking up the game at 7:30 or something....

No Waterloo. We kinda get the Fan. Last nite in the ninth I was driving arund town tring to get reception. Didn't work to well. Finally I just showed up at a friends house. I dunno if I should try the same trick twice. But I probly will.

This guy is a beast of a man... wow, what pop.

Hooray for Manny Ortez! ;)

And to defend Jeter-Bashing. There is huge divid between thinking a player is over-rated, and saying he stinks at baseball. And aswell between plain not liking a guy, and saying he stinks at baseball.
The guy is a good player, don't get me wrong. But he is over-rated, and I do find him irritating.

#253176 Posted 10/18/2004 08:24 PM by DGriebeling:

This guy is a beast of a man... wow, what pop.

#253177 Posted 10/18/2004 08:25 PM by Rob:

Hooray for Manny Ortez! ;)

- What happened?

But he is over-rated, and I do find him irritating.

Cheers.

That's my best impression of EDGE 102's morning show.

Wha What happened?

You can't tell over the computer, but it's funny.

Ortiz hit a HR to make it 4-3 NYY... and now Roberts is on 1st as the tying run, 0 outs

Does anyone know why the Cards-Astros game is delayed and how long?

Gtg pay a visit to my poor friend with cable.
I'll bring chips. You know, to be classy.

Molitor is an excellent on-field comp for Jeter, although it's not at all clear whether Jeter will finish with the rush that Molitor did. Off the field, Jeter reminds me a bit of Steve Garvey. Not really likeable unless you have a fondness for airbrushed ads.

Jeter was a great player from 1996-1999, and contributed mightily to the Yankees' run. He's still a fine player, but at this point he's nowhere as important to the Yankees as Hiddeki Matsui, say.

If Roberts picks the right pitch - the hook -he can steal at will.

But Gordon has been a fastball/slider guy lately. Not throwing the curve the way he used to.

Cards-Astros first pitch at 8:42, according to Fox.

Why are these games always delayed? It can't be "waiting for the ALCS game to end" because this might not be over for a while.

Dave Roberts has not stolen second base yet. I'm shocked.

Almost passed ball and still on first. I'm stunned.

Jeter reminds me a bit of Steve Garvey.

I know what you mean, and its largely a media creation. The media loved Garvey, the same way they once loved Pete Rose, the way they love Jeter now - and my God, it gets tiresome.

Never heard of any of Jeter's teammates trying to punch him out though - they seem a little in awe of him as well. In that respect, Jeter's more like Rose without the theatrics.

Wow.
Some ball game.

THX G.T.

Armchair Manager Time (try to answer before the play):

Do you bunt home the time and take the out, or let him swing away?

I have to say. Those Visa Check Card commercials are pretty funny.

"Thats Torre. With 2-R's"

And wow. Ortiz got all of that ball. Wow.

Time means tie.... its a code...

What a game!!!

Gotta love playoff baseball. You have the closer coming into the 8th with no outs!!

Wow, I would have never imagined that when the SOX traded for Roberts, they traded for 2 (almost) comebacks. I mean, withouth Roberts, the Sox probably would have lost last night and they wouldnt have a runner on third right now...IMO anyways.

Do you bunt home the time and take the out, or let him swing away?

With no outs let them swing away. With one out and the better bullpen I would go for the SF. In Bostons case I try to get 2.

Thomas wins. Please hold while I prepare your prize.

without Roberts, the Sox probably would have lost last night

Well, they sure don't score the winning run from first on a single. That was a crucial SB, and its worth having someone on your bitch who can get you one in an emergency.

Of course, its tough to carry a guy for that purpose if you're going to have seven relief pitchers... (oh there goes Magpie again on modern roster management:-)

"and its worth having someone on your bitch who can get you one in an emergency."

HAAAAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA!!!!

Hot Damnit Magpie, that was funny.

So who's going to pitch for Boston now? Smokey Joe Wood?

Y'gotta give it to Fox... they're getting some good crowd shots. That one guy saying "Please please please please" and then the kid covering his eyes, and peeking through his fingers were really great shots

someone on your bitch

YIKES!! Where is my head at?

I hereby present this kick ass picture of Thomas Jane to Thomas for winning my armchair challange



And give Magpie the award for Bauxite Blooper of the night.... possibly of the year.

I'd likt to thank all the members of the Academy... I'd like to thank the Hillbilly Zombie... I'd like to thank the Sons of Sam because they actually talk like that...

My name and winning next to each other that has to a first. It helps to be the only one participating. Thats a cool picture, Jobu!

No matter how this game ends, there's going to be 100 million people singing:

The silicon chip inside her head
Gets switched to overload.
And nobody's gonna go to school today,
She's going to make them stay at home.
And daddy doesn't understand it,
He always said she was as good as gold.
And he can see no reason
'Cause there are no reasons
What reason do you need to be shown?

Ahhhhh Boomtown Rats. Is there anything they can't do?

No thanks needed Magpie and Thomas, you guys earned it. Especialy Thomas, but ESPECIALY Magpie.... I'm still giggling.

Huge break for the Red Sox.

Is that a dumb rule, by the way? The guy is held at 3rd when someone with my speed could have scored....

Very huge break for the Red Sox...

For a moment, I thought that Miguel Cairo would become "Miguel F'n Cairo"

That's a big break, but they had better score soon.

Good lord, Schilling, Wakefield, and Arroyo in the pen? That'll get the ol' blood pressure rising.

Schilling's in the pen? Crikey!

Can we get an line on the odds he'll actually pitch? Wasnt he talked about for game 6?

[McCarver mode on]

Rivera shatters so many bats, he gets a commission from the Louisville people

[McCarver mode off]

This just in. If hitting homeruns is making bad movies, Carlos Beltran is steve guttenburg.

Boomtown Rats.

Nobody likes Mondays, but I loved the Rats.

Strangest thing. I saw them at the ElMo back in 1979 - that album (their 3rd) hadn't come out. They were touring behind the second one (and my favourite) "A Tonic For the Troops."

They previewed "Mondays" at the show - Geldof gave the backstory, and sang the song with Johnny Fingers playing piano and the rest of the band doing handclaps and backup vocals...

But anyway, the entire show was one of the three best live performances I have ever seen. It was just one of those nights... I mean, they were a good little band, but not that good. I've seen Springsteen and Dylan and The Who and The Stones... I'm old, seen a few things.

But that one night...

They played Eminem at Fenway? I'm sorry, but that doesn't mesh with "Sweet Caroline" at all. Neil Diamond must be rolling over in his grave.

Did Beltran hit another? Just...just...come on! How many can he hit?

No, Beltran just hit a long fly out to left. Fox teased us with the lead-in comment to a highlight being: "Carlos Beltran has been hitting so many home runs", then they showed him hitting the fly out.

On Gameday it's 0-0 after 1 with the Cards batting. Beltran 0-1

Heh, the umpire just walked over the diamond cam and now there's some sort of leaf or something blocking part of the left side. And the screen goes black. Perfect timing. It's still not working.

And I don't see a Beltran HR on Gameday. What happened to inspire the Guttenburg comparison, Jobu?

I'm more of a Bob Geldof fan than a Rats fan. Mainly due to his work on Live Aid and the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert.

I absolutely love that song, though. A classic.

Too slow again.

Well, now I know the Beltran business, since we all posted at the same time. ;)

Diamond Cam back up here in extras, folks. Who else wants to stay up until 1:30 again?

Stupid lying FOX inspired my comparison.

In unrelated news, some Guttenberg titles:

The Chicken Chronicles
Amazon Women on the Moon
Casper: A Spirited Begining
PS. Your Cat is Dead

My poor kitty almost died today when an air hockey table collapsed on him. Somehow he found a pocket of air between the table and floor and escaped completely unscathed. I *still* have no idea how it happened. Scared the hell out of me, though.

Jobu, who will end up as the Punisher? Gozilla, A-Rod, Ortiz?

Ok, I started it way too late yesterday, but I'm willing to do it again...

Prediction on:
Winner
Winning RBI
Inning
Losing Pitcher
Winning Pitcher
Save Pitcher (if applicable)

And winner gets a prize!! How exciting is that.

I'm still sure Loaiza is destined for a save.
Yankees win in 12, Jeter RBI off Arroyo. Quantrill gets the win.

You seem to have the luck with guessing today Thomas, anyone who picks the holder of the game winning swing wins another Punisher picture.

I was just going to Google "Moffatt" and "cat" as a joke, but it appears he is actually...right here:

The old videogames give it away, Moffatt. It must be your cat. ;) Hope he's okay -- looks cute enough, I guess.

(Not a cat lover.)

Or you can go with Mr.Griebeling. Didnt see his post while I was typing :)

Yankees, Matsui, 11th, Arroyo, Heredia, Quantrill with the save.

Well Jobu, we can combine our resources, and give out double the prizes... oh, Lotto 6/49's got nothing on us

Let the super-contest begin!

Get DGriebeling's contest correct and win his mystery prize, just pick the winning bat and get a Punisher picture. Step right up folks.

Just call me Cooder, and call Jobu Spud....

Did I mention we're zombies?

Boston, Varitek, 10th, Arroyo the win, Quantril the loss

Nolan going with strategy... let's see how it pays off.....

Now its got to the...12th or 13th for my prediction to come true. And I doubt Quantril will last that long :)

Loss: Loiaza.

Win: Myers

Game winning hit: Bellhorn (he's due)

Man, I would have left Arroyo in there at least this inning...he was wicked last inning

Mike Myers? Huh? Arroyo was terrific. And another lefty in the pen? Matsui homered last night off Myers, too. I hope the Yanks win it here, just because I like seeing Red Sox Nation go nuts over their manager...

This quick hook of Arroyo could be a mistake. Francona could be explaining it to reporters for the next several days.

Dont know if I like him but I go with Posada getting the Game-winning RBI.

Wow, Myers does great and then gets the hook- is Francona's bullpen deepe enough for this? If this game goes 2-3 more inning he's ganna end up pitching Schilling

Winner: Yanks
Winning RBI Posada
Inning 11
Losing Pitcher Embree
Winning Pitcher Q
Save Pitcher non

I like hearing the crew talk between innings here -- damn, they just turned off the feed. I wanted to know what Joe Buck really thought about Derek Jeter and the rest of the MFY's.

...this is just begging for another one of Jobu's wacky scripts.

You don't here anything between breaks because they go back into their oxygen chambers.

Actually, they were talking on the Diamond Cam for a bit. They mentioned something about the guys putting up the numbers on the Green Monster for each inning.

I'm being forced to go on a coffee run, back in 30. Nobody touch any of my stuff while I'm gone.

OK I only win once today which is just fine.

(quickly rearranges Jobu's crap in a random order, and places a tack on his chair. Ssshhh!)

Do-over:

Win: Embree, loss, Quantrill, hit Bellhorn.

Well, despite all my second guessing, Francona's moves worked out really well...Embree was pretty nasty

jsoh- "Brak, did you move my chair? I don't believe you, you're grounded!"

Now warming up in the Boston bullpen... Luis Tiant

Why on earth wasnt Mueller on third on that hit. Sheesh.

And oh. Way to make up for your crappy fundamentals Bellhorn.

(on preview - dammit Damon! best bunter my fanny)

Voldemort coming into the game...

Holy smokes!

Here comes E_____ L____!

Jobu is missing some good quality Sox offense -- oh, wait, Cabrera's up.

"Yankee hopes resting on Loiza"

And around the greater metropolitain New York area, and loud and grievious groan was heard.

McCarver: "...I've played with Torre, been on opposing teams that he's managed..."

I'm a little tired in the head, but does this make sense to anyone else?

...oh, wait, Loaiza's pitching.

On Gameday it said Injury delay and then Q was taken out of the game, did sth. happen to him? Does anyone know what the record for pitchers used during a play-off game is? Are we close with 13

I've played with Torre, been on opposing teams that he's managed...

Its true - Torre and McCarver were teammates in St Louis, and McCarver was still playing in Philadelphia when Torre started managing the Mets.

For what it's worth, Torre and McCarver played together on the 1969 Cardinals, and Torre's Mets played the Phillies (with McCarver) for four years.

I mean 14.

Did I miss some announcement where it was made clear that the role of the Boston Offense would be played by your 2004 Toronto Blue Jays (Dave Berg in LF version) tonite?

They score off of Gordon/Rivera to tie it, but get bubkas against such pitching luminaries as Sturtze, Heredia, and L______?

youneverknow I suppose.

Quantrill's been bothered all season by the right knee he hurt in the season opener in Japan. He apparently just stopped wearing the brace...

but it looks like he rolled his ankle charging the bunt/popup

Ah, too slow. I defer to Magpie. At least I spelled everything in my post right!

And Wakefield? That's some bad 12th-inning mojo going there.

I'll give it another try:
Winner Cards
Winning RBI Pujols
Inning 7
Losing Pitcher Backe
Winning Pitcher Williams
Save Pitcher Isringhausen

This just in from the newswires. Ramirez: Bad Outfielder. Kapler: Good Outfielder.

Manny plays left like that guy on my softball team who refuses to leave his beer on the bench when its time to head out to the field.

At least I spelled everything in my post right!

This guy is wearing me out.

Is this game going to go into 1 in the morning as well? Wow.

Put me down for a Red Sox win in the 18th.

That's one of my cats, but not the one that had the unfortunate almost-accident. :)

Seriously, when do these teams run out of pitchers?
Can the Red Sox dress a Boston Globe sportswriter for Game 6 (if nec.)?

Final Guess

Win: Wakefield
Loss: E------ L-----
Hit: Ortiz does it again

After that, I pick Schilling to get the loss, when Babe Ruth himself hits one over Ted Williams' head.

This guy is wearing me out.

Aw, crap!! The game! The game is wearing me out.

I'm going to sit on the bitch for a while and rest, OK?

Actually, Torre took over McCarver's catching job in 1970, after having caught 17 games behind Tim in 1969. McCarver's not fooling when he says he knows something of Torre from first-hand experience.

Thanks, Magpie.It just sounded weird that soemone got hurt during a bunt pop up by the catcher. Hey, today I am doing wonders for my Batter's Box Batting Average to the disadvantage of all the sane/sober people reading this :-)

Thx for all the info guys...

This guy is wearing me out.

Aw, crap!! The game! The game is wearing me out.

Oh, I thought I was gradually depleting your stamina. Glad to hear that I'm the A.J. Pierzynski of Da Box, not the Bobby Abreu. That's right, an underrated all-star...

Jobu: I just checked the NLCS, and Yadier is not playing tonight. So we'll have to run an old episode of Too Many Molinas!, maybe the one where Tavarez trashes his apartment. The ratings were good for that show.

What?!?!?!?!

Ortiz???

Jeter gets ANOTHER call out at 2nd base.. This is getting ridiculous.

Its official. Tito is managing to lose his job. That, or Minky's got a NY bet in with his bookie.

It just doesnt make sense any other way.

What a terrible call. Both on the Ortiz running and the out call. Just brutal.

Of course, it is The Jeter out there, so only he can make the clutchiest of clutch tags. Yeah, I'm bitter. That was obviously an out.

Hit Homerun Now. K THX.

Ortiz is running!

Sigh . . .

I'm loading SoSH to see their reactions to this. Should be interesting.

Ortiz gets thrown out at second...kinda makes ya think of Ruth getting thrown out stealing second to end the world series (1925 against the cards?...Just going on memory here)

Ortiz was safe. At least the announcers don't give Jeter the benefit of his phantom tags.

If you have the time / energy, please post some here, they're hillarious. Especially if Wakefield loses it in the 13th.

I'm loading SoSH to see their reactions to this.

I've been monitoring all night. Will post the highlights if the game ever ends...

Yes. Feed us SOSH. Please.

It's still loading. Their board must have exploded. Page 57 is taking forever.

I've been listening to the Red Sox radio announcers off mlb.com for the past few hours (i.e. latter part of the game); they've been pretty good. The crowd noise has come through great.

Which game is Fan 590 doing?

I'm waiting for FOX to cut to the Yankee's dugout for a shot of Aaron F. Boone giving pointers to Tony Clark and Miguel Cairo.

'Course. If 'Tek keeps on botching strike 3's like that...

I briefly listened to the Fan earlier, when moving a car into my driveway. They were still covering Sox-Yanks, and were updating the game between innings. They said that the Cards hadn't gotten a baserunner through 4.

You can guess where these quotes are from:

- Somebody shove a red-hot poker up that umpire's a**
- WHAT THE @#%$ WAS THAT?!
He was safe, but WHAT THE @#%$ WAS THAT?!?!?!
- Jesus, Mary, and Holy Saint Joseph.
- Safe!!!!! @#%$.
- And you know it's REALLY bad when McCarver admits it.
- I've been beaten senseless, then beaten back to lucidness. Now I'm just numb.

Gameday says its 0-0 on top of the 6th

Indeed. Backe's allowed 1 walk through 5.2, that's it.

Which game is Fan 590 doing?


Me Grimlock listened to most of the extra innings on the drive home on the FAN590. Miller and Morgan are LIGHT-YEARS better than the Fox crew.

And Primer:

- Oh yeah, have the fat man steal a base.
- Prediction: 23rd inning, Derek Jeter is now pitching and the strike zone is the size of Manhattan Island.

Ortiz gets thrown out at second...kinda makes ya think of Ruth getting thrown out stealing second to end the world series (1925 against the cards?...Just going on memory here)

It was 1926. You're not really going on memory, you read it in a book somewhere.

Whereas I...

And I'm back... did I miss any- HEY! You moved some of my random stuff!?!?

Varitek doing his best Borders imitation: 2 PB's in one inning ouch.

Gah, the NLCS game will end before this one!

Varitek must not be comfortable with catching Wakefield. REALLY not comfortable. That's three passed balls!

In the time it takes to load a new page at SoSH, they've already posted through another one.

Watching Varitek attempt to catch is hilarious. He looks like he's just guessing out there.

(waits for Jobu to sit down)

No. Why? It was Wakefield. One of his knucklers did it.

Somewhere, Jim Bouton is smiling.

Are those PB's Wakefield knucklers or did Varitek a poor job of catching him?

Boston Bullpen:
Leskanic, Lowe, Mendoza, Schilling

NY Bullpen:
Brown, Hernandez, Lieber, Vasquez

Realistically, who's next after Wakefield and Loaiza, if they are needed?

Sorry Jsoh, but Hillbilly Zombies have built in tack sensors.

And speaking of having to show a re-run of "Too Many Molinas!" I heard that Tavarez actually broke his hand during his freakout yesterday. Any truth to that?

Thanks. I've switched over the ESPN radiocast on the Fan.

Are those PB's Wakefield knucklers or did Varitek a poor job of catching him?

A little from column A, a little from column B.

That would be Varitek doing his best Felix Potvin (Boston era) impression.

I'd say next is Schilling (hell or high water) and . . . uh . . . is Vasquez avaliable? Brown?

Yes, I heard that Tavarez is out, too. I'd look for it, but I'd rather be watching the unimportant game right now.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2004/news/story?id=1904707
Jobu, COMN for Tavarez's uncertain injury status.

Curses! Foiled again!

I heard that Tavarez actually broke his hand during his freakout yesterday. Any truth to that?

Either FOX or ESPNRadio (been so long ago, cant remember which) mentioned Tavarez was unavailable today with a hand injury, and allowed the listener to speculate as to why that might be.

Yeah, I think it actually happened. To fill in for Tavarez while he's in rehab at the Julian Tavarez Centre For The Really Nutso People, this guy.

Don't look at me, Hillbilly Zombie. I didn't touch your stuff.

OK, as promised, up to the minute highlights:

They're watching over at Sons of Sam Horn. And I'm watching them watch. And sharing it with you.

You should be prepared for the nicknames:

Curt Schilling - G38
Pedro Martinez - Petey
Derek Lowe - Gidget
Bronson Arroyo - Saturn Nuts
David Ortiz - Flo or Tizzle
Orlando Cabrera - The OC
Bill Mueller - Pro or Professional
Johnny Damon - Jesus

The Yankees (MFYs) have been assigned a series of none too flattering nicknames:

Mike Mussina - Bigot or Bullwinkle
Derek Jeter - Captain Intangibles
Hideki Matsui - Shemp
Bernie Williams - Peanuthead
Gary Sheffield - Balco
Mariano Rivera - Fruitbat
Tanyon Sturze - WoTS
Jorge Posada - Dumbo or PassedBalla

Here are today's highlights:

PRE-GAME

I'm ready. I got my three hours sleep and am ready and waiting.

Win today. Some of us old folks are running out of high-blood-pressure meds.

There is no try, only do.


The line must be drawn here!

Anyone else incredibly non-productive at the office today?

Does completing an online feminine products survey where I pretended to be a 14 year old girl so I could earn a chance to win 500 bucks count?

FIRST INNING

Pedro says sit the @#%$ down.

Your nads are a disaster from all the roids Sheff.

will you marry me, mr. ortiz?

Hey Mussina, WHO'S YOUR PAPI

Bullwinkle dies next inning.

SECOND INNING

This team is going to kill me.

Funny has Bernie can swing so well with that fork sticking out his back.

THIRD INNING

Just showed Pedro's little buddy on ESPN. Dwarf mojo is BIG mojo.

Sit down and shut up Captain.

Are the fans really chanting "WHO'S YOUR DEALER?" at Sheffield?

Spin alley is in full affect after the Jeter error.

Nothing's more tangible than an E-6 mark in the scorebook.

Such is the magic of Captain Intangibles. Knowing that Nixon and Tek would fail, he arfully increased his pitcher's confidence level by deliberately muffing a relatively easy ground ball.

Maybe after the game the Bigot will blame the colored kid behind him on defense...

FOURTH INNING

leadoff hit for dumbo

He's so intangible.

I'm sure they have a video tribute of the Cpt's first pumps and all that crap ready to roll at a minutes notice.....

Listen McCarver, there is never a need to preface one of your sentences with the phrase "simply put". Never.

where has our jesus gone?

FIFTH INNING

I haven't been so happy to see a DP since Amateur Trailer Park Girls #7.

Scooter makes the baby Jesus cry.

How do you say, "I wouldn't dig in if I were you in Japanese"? a-bigfucka-u, shempu-san.

Please chase him here. I want Loaiza. I need Loaiza.

Ortiz just cost fox huge FCC dollars.

SIXTH INNING

If we're ahead, why am I so unhappy?

Sit down Peanut Head.

Bases loaded for Jeter.

I wish I was drunk.

Dear god.

This is not happening.

Take him out now!

Does Tito have ANYONE warming up?

oh, that's why I was so unhappy.

The sky is falling. Pedro is broken. Broken.

SEVENTH INNING

We're all in Hell together. Hi neighbors!

well, this is excruciating...

---------------at which point, they close the original game thread and hand the ball to someone else!!!-------

We pull our starting thread... Torre pulls his starting pitcher?
Coincidence?

Well, that sucked.

There are no words.

EIGHTH INNING

after this game i can watch Beltran play and hurl at the thought of him as a MFY next year ...

Got'em right where we want'em.

Foulke has nuts the size of the sun.

raise your hand if you think you may puke

David Ortiz is a god among men.

I get a man crush for Theo whenever i see Roberts entering to PR as the tying or go ahead run.

I want to love Trot Nixon!

I'm frying in my own juices here at work.

I'm starting to think we're fruitbat's daddy!

NINTH INNING

1 pitch pop ups make my nether regions tingle.

A valium! A valium! My kingdom for a valium!

Good defense by the fans.

TENTH INNING

Felix Heredia sighting. HOLD THE LINE.

I have such a bad feeling about this....

I think I'm having a heart attack..........

Already had three...working on my second stroke now.

Tito channeling Mazzone. Appears to be working so far.

Holy friggin crap. This is just sick. Unbelievable. I think I soiled myself 3 times already. Damn.

Nevermind the moons of Meepsorb...behold the balls of Saturn.

I have changed my pants twice. I am programming 911 into my cell phone as I type. My left arm is numb...I don't know how much more of this I can take....

Is it normal for 16 year olds to have heart attacks? Dind't think so.

I fully expect an EMT to be hovering over me yelling, "Clear!" before the end of this one.

I'm so excited I could plotz.

ELEVENTH INNING

If Meyers gives up a dinger here,...there will be some sort of damage here in my home....

I'm having some gas pains, lemme tell ya.

Halloween gets the job done.

I have taken the battery out of my car and clipped it to my chest....

will someone please remind Sierra he's a fossil and has no business making an impact in this game

I'm dying here. I'm ready to barf all over my living room.

DIAZEPAM! DIAZEPAM! MY KINGDOM FOR DIAZEPAM!

I need to be cuddled. Will somebody please hold me?

Wife is coming home any minute now..she was good luck last night....Hope she knows CPR.

I could not possibly love the PRO more than I do at this moment.

YANKEES: YOU CANNOT WIN. YOUR WOMEN ARE SLEEPING WITH MO VAUGHN WHILE YOU'RE ON THE ROAD. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

we're risking old testament type wrath here Damon.

And now Jesus will sacrifice himself to fight evil?

Damon is dying for our sins.

I think the Astros/Cardinals game just ended.

TWELFTH INNING

My father used to tell me he could feel his hair going grey over me. Now I know what he was talking about.

One more fist-pump from Jeter, and I'm heading out to Fenway with a high-powered rifle.

I'm dying of starvation, I'm delirous from lack of sleep, and Johnny damon is on a personal crusade to kill me.

Can someone please bring a defribrillator to my house? Thanks.

The acid in my stomach is dissolving my skeleton.

News flash! Yankees get the call. In other news, dog bites man.

I don't care that he was actually safe. That was still stupid

THIRTEENTH INNING

Jesus, Mary, and Holy Saint Joseph.

I've been beaten senseless, then beaten back to lucidness. Now I'm just numb.

I still don't understand what the hell happened last inning.

Please don't let Godzilla do anything game-winning-ish here ... that face is too ugly to watch on the highlight reels over and over again.

My guts hurt

Christ Tek let 'em all bounce off your chest protector if you have to.

This hand injury sounds like the perfect back story for the token "serious" episode of "Too Many Molinas!"

I gotta commision NFH to make the opening graphic for the show.

Realistically, who's next after Wakefield and Loaiza, if they are needed?

Realism, hah, I spit in your general direction. Wakefield is probably good for about 10 innings today, if required, and then he'll come back on one day's rest for Game 7. Loaiza's good for about 10 innings too.

Well, now Leskanic's warming up in the 'pen. To get a more "conventional" pitcher in there for Varitek to catch...

Wow, I'm back from a one-hour phone call with my girlfriend.... and its 4-4. This is getting funny....

Can someone name remaining pitchers for each team? How about benchies?

Loaiza's good for about 10 innings too.

No, he's mediocre for 10 innings. Ha! Yes, I'm here all night.

Huh. That guy I linked earlier, Manny Molina, played "Rape culturist #2" in the Italian spoof "Il silenzio dei prosciutti" (Silence of the Hams). Maybe he's not good enough for Too Many Molinas! after all.

For the Sox: Schilling, Lowe, Mendoza, and Leskanic in the 'pen. Reese and Mirabelli on the bench, and I think that's it.

[dejected Buck] "We've been at this so long... our blimp.... had to go home"

Wow, that was funny.

For the Yankees:

Crosby, Flaherty, Lofton, Wilson, and the corpse of John Olerud on the Bench.

Brown, El Duque, Vasquez in the pen, Lieber has taken off for New York.

"We've been at this so long our blimp had to go home"

Funniest line of the night, I agree completely.

Lowe started yesterday, so he probably will come into the game after McCarty. If Boston doesnt score soon, we're gonna see how good that ankle of Schilling's is.

Who the snarf pitches game 6 in that case?

Both teams have four runs, twelve hits, and an error. And they've both used 7 pitchers here tonight.

I think we should take some friendly bets as to which game ends first....the houston-st.louis or boston-ny

Why do the boston-ny games always go so long

Ok even my Cards projection is wrong. Cards still scoreless middle of the 7th.

The Yanks haven't gone to their bench yet. I still don't know who that leaves. An injured Olerud, John Flaherty, Enrique Wilson, Kenny Lofton and Bubba Crosby.

As for pitchers, Kevin Brown, Orlando Hernandez, Jon Lieber and Javier Vazquez.

McCarty isn't on the roster, jsoh. It's Lesky, Lowey, Mendy, and Curty left over.

Um. Joe? Having Ortiz get nailed trying to steal second doesnt count as "pitching around a walk to Ortiz".

k. thx.

McCarty isn't on the roster, jsoh. It's Lesky, Lowey, Mendy, and Curty left over.

Thats my point :)

McCarty's not on the ALCS roster for the Red Sox. After discovering the Lineups & Bench section on mlb.com's Gameday, I can assure you my previous posts were correct:

Reese, Mirabelli
Lowe, Schilling, Mendoza, Leskanic

Olerud, Crosby, Lofton, Wilson, Flaherty
Brown, Hernandez, Lieber, Vazquez

So what happens if (say) Johnny Damon gets injured?

Kapler to CF, Bellhorn to RF, Pokey to 2B?
Or Ortiz moves from DH to the outfield...not.

They did take the time to show Schilling, Lowe and Wakefield walking down to the bullpen after 7 innings. So I guess Lowe's available in an emergency.

Dont worry Rob, I'm sure there's a Molina! lurking on their bench somewhere.

Jobu, I think just like at the carnival, if this game goes on any longer, no one can win. lol

Moffat's 18th inning win looks to be the closest in that respect

I meant in regards to our contest.... oops.

I missed the 14th-inning stretch. Did they sing God Bless America twice?

And hey...Matsui is only 1 for 7 tonight. He's left 7 on base, too.

Oh Lord this game is long....and the umpiring has been ... bad.

Did anyone see that check swing where Manny went about 80% of the way through a swing and Joe West said he didn't go? Brutal.

HAs a position player ever pitched in the postseason before? I'd like to see Enrique Wilson vs. Pokey Reese.

Someone tell Al that Gil Patterson taught L____ the cutter.

Apparently, though Rivera has been teaching the cutter to Sturze...

Which would explain a lot.

It worked last night, so:

David Ortiz up with Manny on.
"C is for Can you please end the game so I can get some sleep?"

So maybe we should try to get Sturtze back to Toronto then? Who's in agreement?

[tumbleweed]

So maybe we should try to get Sturtze back to Toronto then? Who's in agreement?

[thousands of angry Bauxites marching to DGriebling's house, with fire on sticks and sticks on fire and the like]

Third try at the contest:
Winning team: The Jeters
Winning RBI: Jeter
Winning pitcher: Jeter
losing pitcher: Not Jeter
Save: Lets give to Jeter (Clutch save for the clutch win and the cluch pitching)
Inning: has to be 23 [The illuminates (I hope you call them like that in N.Amerca)
New Stadium: The Dome that Jeters clutch built

What an at-bat. Seems like Ortiz is sitting off-speed and fouling off fastballs until he gets it.

Ortiz is my PAPI!

Wow.

I called it again! Yeah!

BOO YEAH!

Man.... oh...... man........ This guy is clutch.

Can I call for a hiatus to the "C is for..." please?

To paraphrase Curt Schilling: "There's nothing better than making 5,000,000 [Bostonians] shut up."

Oh, and Ortiz did some work on that as well...but come on, it was all me. ;)

SoSH highlights coming soon.

David "The Punisher" Ortiz. How many innings will Game 6 have?

So who's available to pitch tomorrow? ;)

I just want you all to know that I am personally responsible for last night's Sox victory.

During the ninth inning of last night's game, I decided that I better put on my Red Sox cap and Ortiz 34 t-shirt (the latter purchased just outside Fenway, the former from a shady street vendor in the Quincy Market area). Sure enough, the Sox scored to send the game to the tenth. In the top of the tenth, I got cold and put on my UNB hoody.

So, the hoody comes on for the top of each inning, and off to reveal the Ortiz 34 t-shirt for the bottom of each inning. Ortiz being the hero of last night's game was, of course, a sign; an attestation from a higher power that my frantic hoody donning and doffing was the determining factor.

You're welcome, Red Sox fans. Your'e welcome.

Bahaha... stupid Esteban Loaiza. Me Grimlock enjoyed that. He's a bum, in every sense of the word! Me Grimlock look forward to Game 6. Me Grimlock predicts the Yanks bomb an injured "G38".

And here's the rest, so far:

Sons of Sam, continued

THIRTEENTH INNING (cont.)

Now is the time for Sierra to remember that he is 58 years old. And sucks.

varitek has caught 25 innings in the last 24 hours....hello

I think I need a pair of adult briefs

I just broke down and started sobbing "please win this game, please win this game!!!!" in my empty apartment. Yep, I'm officially insane.

FOURTEENTH INNING

mommy, i'm scared

someone wake manny up out there in case its hit to him again

Good must triumph over evil. It must.

I was only 33 years old when this game started. Now I'm 80 something and have senile dementia.

Esteban Loaiza is pitching no-hit ball. This must violate some fundamental law of the universe.

Um, Al? Al Leiter? Loiza started throwing a cutter in 2003 you idiot

Tizzle! You'll be the mizzle of the yizzle if you get a hit here!

this is it. this is who I want up. this is it. now

I think I just died.

What a freakin' man Ortiz is. What a freakin' atbat.

David Ortiz, the man, the myth, the legend.

Great stuff. Boston is a better team than they were the first three games of the series, obviously---are they good enough to win four in a row against the mighty Yankees? I doubt it, but at least they've made it interesting. The wild card now is obviously Schilling's ankle and how it affects him tomorrow.

Backe allowed 1hit and 2 walks in 8 innings ( 100 pitches) Isringhausen relieves Woody.

Final Guess

Win: Wakefield
Loss: E------ L-----
Hit: Ortiz does it again

Who's your papi?

Tommorow's game goes 5. The Schill is gone for Red Sox fans.

I think everyone who is still awake is a winner in my contest.. or perhaps we are the losers...No one got the game-winning batter, inning, winner, or loser. Nolan was the first to call Boston the winner.....

So, for all of our winners (Its cheap, but no one was even CLOSE), a picture of Steve Guttenberg... which may make no sense since we were talking about him seemingly 5 hours ago.... but typing "unending baseball" into google images only came up with a weirdo guy named chris.... no idea.

So who's available to pitch tomorrow? ;)

I believe that its Oil Can Boyd against Ed Whitson. But I could be mistaken on that.

Since no one was given the liberty of multi-guesses, 6-4-3.... I sorta ignored your updates... Sorry.

But you can still admire Steve, and if desperate, print him out

Woody was also great: both allowed 1 hit two walks and had 4 K's. Backe might go on though.

Oh, I'll frame him on my wall.

Hey that's interesting.

Just found out that *Steve Vai* plays on the opening theme for Halo 2.

Gentlemen, it's been ten hours of fun. See you all tomorrow, when (hopefully) one of these things will be over in four hours or less.

Backe might go on though.

Who is that idiot? Dont believe him. Lidge pitching now.

Ok, who wants to predict how many innings this game will.....ahhh... nevermind.

I will watch it all though, and hope I'm not alone

If the Stl-Hou game goes 14, then I may just need to sleep thru my meeting tomorrow morning. Which would be bad.

So I'm predicting that Beltran ends it with number 9

Or. He could start it off with a hard single. Whatever's good for him.

Meanwhile, this NL game. I'm going to sprint through GameDay and see what happened...

1st
StL - 3 up 3 down
Hst - Bagwell 2 out 1b, Berkman grounds out

2nd
StL-3 up 3 down
Hst-3 up 3 down

3rd
StL-3 up 3 down
Hst - Ausmus leadoff BB; Backe Ks trying to bunt, Biggio popout, Beltran lineout

4th
StL-3 up 3 down
Hst-Bagwell 1 out BB.Kent flyout, Ensberg HBP, Vizcaino groundout

5th
StL-Edmonds 1 out BB. Renteria flyout, Sanders pop out
Hst-3 up 3 down

6th
StL-Womack 2 out 1B. Walker BB. Pujols pop-out
Hst-3 up 3 down

7th
StL-3 up 3 down
Hst-3 up 3 down

8th
StL-3 up 3 down
Hst-3 up 3 down

And here we are...

So I changed my MLB.TV internet fered to the NLCS and saw Walker batting when they cut out and said Fear Factor would be coming on, ahhhhhhhhhhh! It was on for a few minutes but thankfully changed back to the game.

Ugh, Fear Factor on an internet baseball feed...

O jeeze, that was some game! Lol, I went to my buddies and he wasn't even there. But his roomies were and they let me in. Then they left and told me to lock up. But hey, that game was farv too exciting to feel awkward.

O jeeze, that was some game! Lol, I went to my buddies and he wasn't even there. But his roomies were and they let me in. Then they left and told me to lock up. But hey, that game was farv too exciting to feel awkward.

Who's that old lady they keep showing? They showed her a lot in Game 4 too. Is she Phil Garner's mom?

Oooh. Bagwell gets lucky on that pop.

I missed what happened on that Bagwell foul.... can someone gimmie the brief summary?

Sorry I'm late. Here's the other reward. Hope you like Thomas Jane!

Hit the roof. Matheny was standing under it looking stupid, waiting for it to come down.

Apparently the ground rules in the Juice Box says that if it hits the roof in foul territory, its a dead ball.

That's a pretty tough Blown Save for Rivera (2 IP, 1 H, 0 Runs)

and a real cheap Hold for Gordon (.2 IP, 2 H, 2 Runs)

Wow. 2-2 on Berkman, and they toss balls 3 and 4 intentionally to Berkman after Beltran steals. To pitch to Kent!

Holy crap... that's how you avoid extra innings

Holy crapola. Kent hit that ball over the Rio Grande!

OK, bad idea to diss Jeff Kent.

Is this game over already?

I feel cheated somehow.

For the record, DG and I are two separate people. I think.

:)

Who's that old lady? Why do they keep showing her?

Beltran, MVP, win or lose?

Sweet.... I get to wear my 20 dollar jersey tomorrow

For the record, jsoh and I are two separate people. I think.

:)

I'm tired and my head hurts.

I can't imagine what this would be like if I cared about any of these teams.

Talk to ya tomorrow, gang...

Now is what me Grimlock gonna do? Sleep? Stupid Jeff Kent.

WOW

Harsh words quoted by the Sheff to the Bo Sox.

That was one of the best baseball nights ever, such good games. Perfect timing as well.

What did G Shef say?

Anyone know the story behind Mussina's "Bigot" nickname?

Sportsnet keeps showing the exact quote but it was something like "They're all fake. They like to act tough, or act like they care about winning. But they're all just a bunch of characters"

"They like to act like they care about winning". Shef should sober up before talking.

Yeah, that's the type of quote that goes up in the opposition's dressing room to fire them up. Not the smartest thing he could have said

As if the Sox weren't motivated enough. Unless Sheff is just a genious and is trying to over-arouse them (in a sport psych way, not $EXXXUAL way)

Geez, the game finishes and all of a sudden it's 3 people and tumbleweeds.

What's odd is that I saw that quote before the game. When did he say it, exactly?

Hey! Monday Night Football is still on! We're not live-sportsless yet. Sweet.

Good point from Sons of Sam Horn. There has got to be alot of respect given to Jorge Posada and Jason Varitek, they caught some 26 innings of baseball in 27 hours.

They were paid more than adequatly for their efforts.... ;)

Can anyone recap Mr. Wilner's post game wrap up?

Baseball is great. No one can deny it after this win. Francona makes gutsy decisions and seems not to care about what the ramifications might be were his decisions to back-fire. It was an 8 minute segment. There really wasn't much. Wilner didn't even get to cut up a caller. It was mostly agreement. But he did cut up Jeter pretty good. I believe he called him "adequate at best...but with a gun for an arm." And passed off everyone's obsession for Derek because of his "Jeterness".

This has been a great thread, it's right up there with the Yankees-O Drum controversy.

Gotta give the Red Sox credit for pushing this thing to 6 games, especially after getting their asses handed to them in Game 3. The last two games have been outstanding. I'm surprised the Yankees didn't pitch around Ortiz in the 14th even though it would've loaded the bases. I'd have taken my chances with Mientkiewicz but I'm not complaining! That's twice now Ortiz has really saved their season.

I just wonder if they'll be able to get in a game tomorrow night. The FOX crew made mention of the fact that the weather in New York looks to be questionable the next couple of days and the forecast for Tuesday according to wunderground.com is calling for 100 per-cent rain. A day off would be more beneficial for the Yankees to catch their breath because the Sox right now have the momentum. But momentum begins with your starting pitcher and I'm not that confident in Schilling right now. Unless Reebok has designed one hell of a shoe, the Red Sox better hope they can get to Lieber a lot more than they did in Game 2.

As for the Astros and Cards, Houston could easily have won this thing after they almost came away with a split in St. Louis. Even though Phil Garner won't confirm that Roger Clemens is his Game 6 starter, I I don't think you'd ask Pete "69" Munro to win the biggest game in franchise history. Still, if the Cards manage to beat Clemens in Game 6, I think they'll win the series. I'm still holding out hope for a Boston-Houston match-up:).

I think it's a mistake if Garner starts Clemens on 3 days rest.

A day off would be more beneficial for the Yankees to catch their breath because the Sox right now have the momentum.

Absolutely disagree. Lieber on full rest tomorrow against Schilling stepping carefully (btw, Miguel Cairo should bunt at Schilling five times tomorrow) ... then IF there's a Game 7, extra days off mean maybe another start for Pedro or more rest for Lowe,w hile the entire bullpen gets a break, too. Whereas the Yanks are ready to go with Brownie in his regular slot, which right now would be agains who? Arroyo? Wakefield pitching for the 9th consecutive day?

And I guarantee the Yankees can't WAIT to get out there in front of the home crowd to erase the last two days ... just like, and I hate to bring this up, the D-Backs couldn't wait to get back to The Bob after the Back-to-Back-Hyun Kim meltdowns.

No rain. Rain BAD.

I take pride in the fact that the only way B.Kim can blow the game for the Sox is if he pulls a bartman watching from the stands in Yankee stadium.

So, Leigh, how are the T-shirt and hoody doing after last night's workout?

it was a good baseball night...

Is baseball going to officially introduce the "Derek Jeter" rule, that being "over-hyped pretty boys get to make phantom tags to reduce the chances of scars on their chins!"???

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#253169 Posted 10/18/2004 07:55 PM by Ron:

At last years Grey Cup Canadian Idol 1 Winner Ryan Malcolm lip synched the Canadian National Anthem.

They lip sync an awful lot of the live performances, there is a recording studio at the Dome, they record it preshow and then lip sync it live.... why else would the need a big honking monitor speaker pointed at their head for an "acapella" performance..

The folks over time that have botched up the anthems etc, have created this system... Also, its really hard to sing at the Dome when your voice comes back to you 1 second later, getting mixed up is really really easy.....

So, Leigh, how are the T-shirt and hoody doing after last night's workout?

Oh, Mike, the T-shirt is in bad shape. I will persevere; the lucky trumps the olfactory.

At this time of year, we're all capable of believing that it smells like a rose. Good man!