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UPDATE: May 31 from Jobu: "Ladies and Gentleman, the wait is finally over! The votes have been tabulated, a field has been chosen and most importantly, a shiny new website has been created to detail the registration process for everyone. So read on TBBL players, and get ready to play ball!"

UPDATE: May 21 - Jobu has the results of the 2nd park vote. He will be posting the results and new roster list later tonight as he's currently predisposed with a "luncheon function." My guess is Wendy's.

UPDATE: May 13:
Jobu's back, and he brings with him the voting results plus some very important news which may change the league permanently. Please read on if you're on the TBBL roster.

VERY IMPORTANT UPDATE: April 26 from Jobu - "
The All-Important April Update is here and is required reading for all league members. Inside you'll find information for our MANDATORY home field vote which you have a week to complete, an updated league roster, and finalized league fees. Let's PLAY BALL!"

UPDATE: April 19 - Jobu, not being a student who finished his winter term on just the seventh day of exams, has been more busy than he expected. He apologizes and promises a league-wide vote sometime next week. "No worries, everything is on track."

UPDATE: April 5 - The league is entering its final registration stages. Jobu has posted a list of all the names of players he has received. If you've sent him an e-mail but don't see your name, it's just an oversight. Please e-mail as soon as you can. Being on the final league roster is crucial, as you have one week before Jobu brings up a very important league vote that requires 100% voter turnout. If you are not on the league roster by April 13th at 11:59 PM ET, you will not receive the voting information. Any questions or concerns, e-mail Jobu (see below) or post in this thread.

UPDATE: March 23 - From Commissioner Jobu: Thank you everyone for making my league dream come true! As you can see later in the thread we've actually reached our MAXIMUM and are now taking names on a "waiting list" basis. In the next week or two we'll be having our park vote as well as giving out info on how we'll be collecting league dues. In the meantime any questions can be sent to me (lookatmeimflying) at hotmail or the league account (torontobaseballleague). Let's PLAY BALL!

UPDATE: March 18 - The goal of 40 players has almost been reached -- anyone left who wants to play or has friends who will play, sign themselves up as soon as possible. A list of possible fields will be provided soon, and league members will vote on which is the best. League dues (which have not been determined yet) will be paid to Joe in person on a specified day. If you can't meet him in person, e-mail him below and he'll figure something out.

(Originally posted March 12.) So the sun is shining through the Toronto “blahs” hinting at better times. The birds are singing in the air and the bees are trying to have sex with them (as is my understanding). Do you like to pull the occasional Dennis Quaid and wonder if you still got game left in you as you misuse municipal property? Is your dusty bat in bigger need of a real hit than Ricky Martin? Then I encourage you to read on friend...

So...I’ve struck a cord, have I? Well let me tell you a story, a story about a guy who wanted to play BASEBALL. Naturally the first thing he did was go to his local league but found out that they only had a senior league full of guys who’ve been playing since flat tops were cool and he would be a bigger auto-out than Kevin Cash with the flu. Doing research the guy discovered that the only options for his age were beer league softball, or very competitive baseball. Now let me tell you something truly shocking...that guy...was ME.

Kinda like Groundhog Day only completely different, I decided to team up with fellow Bauxite VBF to attempt to create a Toronto Bauxite Baseball League! Deep in our hidden fortress using ancient magic and secret herbs and spices we’re welcoming one and all, lurkers and posters, pros and rooks to come do what we all love so much: play the great game of baseball.

This league will be a good excuse to meet some fellow Bauxites and have a great time playing ball at a level that will make rooks feel like they contribute and allow seasoned vets to dust off their A-game at the same time. If we can get at least 40 people to sign up before March 25th, the league will be created. If not, well, you can’t blame a guy for trying, can you? Well… except Guy Fawkes I suppose.

If we get enough people, we’ll put most of the little details to a vote before the season starts such as “Umpires or no umpires?”, “What day of the week shall we play?” and “Could anyone strike out Jack Bauer?” But for now here are some of the things we’re fairly sure of:

- We want a minimum of 4 teams, with a minimum of 10 players per team. If that is achieved, we would also welcome guest players on top of the 40 committed ones.

- The home field will be somewhere in the GTA, preferably subway-accessible to maximize enrollment. Some parks we’re considering are:
1) High Park by Bloor West Village
2) Coronation Park by Old Fort York on Lakeshore
3) Unlikely, but we’re playing phone tag with Toronto Parks who might let us use Christie Pits
All other field recommendations are welcomed, and we do intend to vote on this regardless.

- No manager in the world would let Rick Vaughan purposely load the bases just to face Jack Parkman.

- Fees would be kept the lowest possible, and would probably be something like everyone chips in a few bucks on gameday which will go towards park rentals and hopefully umpires.

- We will be playing regular, overhand baseball. And while this league should have the healthy competition and drive to win as any league ("Jobu's batting! Move in!") we expect the utmost levels of sportsmanship that a league of Bauxites should expect so rooks are always welcomed and no one's going to get spiked.

- Each team will pick a team captain to communicate to me or VBF who’s going to show up for each week’s game.

- Each player on the championship team will receive the “Tom Selleck Memorial Trophy.” No, seriously.

- Each team will be responsible for their own equipment and batting helmets will be mandatory. While this may lead to one team being sponsored by Nike and the other strapping magazines to their legs like the Mighty Ducks, we can’t really afford to shell out equipment. So if someone has catching gear please post (see below) that fact and we’ll put one “catching gear guy” on each team.

- If you’d like to be a part of our inaugural season or have questions email me [Joe “Jobu” Buscemi – lookatmeimflying(at hotmail dot)com] with your name and telephone, along with any friends who are committed, and then please post in this thread your experience level and whether you have any equipment you wouldn’t mind letting your team use on game day. Based on experience, equipment, and requests, VBF and I will make teams.

- Again, we have until March 25th to collect at least 40 players or the league folds faster than the Canadian Baseball League.

That’s all I have to say for now. I hope to hear from a lot of you and hope this year we can all PLAY BALL!

Once again, if you are interested in playing in the Toronto Baseball League, contact Joe at [lookatmeimflying(at hotmail dot)com]. Include the following in that e-mail so he can keep track of everyone: full name, phone number, and all the information you will post in this thread (see below).

VBF would also like you to send a copy of that e-mail to "just to double confirm."

Please post, in this thread, your baseball experience level, whether you can actually pitch and/or catch overhand baseball, and a list of baseball equipment you have available. Also send this information to Jobu and VBF at the addresses above -- don't forget your full name and phone number in the e-mail. (No need to post the contact info here.)

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jsut - Sunday, March 12 2006 @ 06:11 PM EST (#142390) #
I am totally up for this. I play on my works shitty beer-league team, and i was hoping to find a way to play something a little more competative than that (in addition to it) this summer.

There are a couple of people at my work that play in a team on on the If getting 40 people together doesn't happen maybe a team could be put together to play in one of their leagues.
Jobu - Sunday, March 12 2006 @ 06:15 PM EST (#142391) #
Thanks alot for the support and suggestion Jsut. We'll definatly keep it in mind.

Well, I suppose I'll begin, heh.

I've played casual baseball for years but only have one year of league experience.

I'll be providing a case of balls if things get started, as well as bats, bases, and possibly some catching gear as well. And naturally VBF is in as well.

Well that's three down...

Geoff - Sunday, March 12 2006 @ 06:20 PM EST (#142392) #
Bless you, Jobu.

I was wondering when such a league would appear here and was itching to suggest it sometime soon if it hadn't been organized.

I'll want to be part of it, but the time when games are played will be important. And might I suggest linking to a Google map of the location of potential parks?
jsut - Sunday, March 12 2006 @ 06:21 PM EST (#142393) #
having actually read the entire post now...

I haven't got any experience to speak of playing hardball, but i played a lot of softball prior to highschool and one year in highschool. i've played softball the past two summers on my works beer-league pitch to yourself softball team.

Equipment wise all i have to offer is myself unfourtunately, though i've been meaning to invest in a bat or two.

I think high park would be great because i live right around the corner ;)
Geoff - Sunday, March 12 2006 @ 06:27 PM EST (#142394) #
As an example, I could suggest Trinity Bellwoods as a potential site. Although I'd like something further north up Bathurst closer to where I am.
rtcaino - Sunday, March 12 2006 @ 06:29 PM EST (#142395) #
I work at National Sports STILL (Jobu). I obviously cannot offer you guys an employee discount because that would be wrong. However, I am winking with my left eye and touching the tip of my nose with my right index finger.
JayWay - Sunday, March 12 2006 @ 06:30 PM EST (#142396) #
If this goes through, I'm definitely in.

I haven't played organized ball since little league, and that was about 10-years ago. Since then I've kept up with the game through random hit and catch sessions with my friends, so I'm not totally inept.

Jobu - Sunday, March 12 2006 @ 06:39 PM EST (#142397) #
Thank you Geoff, JayWay and especially Caino ;)

May I ask that Jsut and Geoff also please email me (see the thread) just so I can have your email addy's and contact info for league purposes. And anyone else who follows naturally.

And also, if you can pitch please mention so, otherwise dont worry about it.

Also please note that my name's Joe not Rob, though I'm sure he's flattered. Heh.
Rob - Sunday, March 12 2006 @ 06:57 PM EST (#142399) #
I have added map links to the first two parks listed in the article. I assume everyone is familiar with Christie Pits. :)
sweat - Sunday, March 12 2006 @ 08:32 PM EST (#142402) #
As a former men's league player in kingston, and a soon to be player in Calgary, let me make one suggestion. 40 players is only enough players for 3 teams. People have other things they have to do, like working late, or shift work, or driving their kids everywhere, or doing whatever their wife tells them to do when she tells them to do it.
12-14 players a team is the way these things need to be. Especially when you consider the fact that you want get more than 2 or 3 pitchers out of 10 guys.
Kieran - Sunday, March 12 2006 @ 08:46 PM EST (#142403) #
Guys - I am *SO* in. I played in a mens' baseball league in Toronto in '99 and '00 but it folded up and merged with a Scarborough league. Since then, I've been relegated to company three-pitch. As someone who pitched their entire little-league "career", I have been longing to return to "real" baseball.

What day of the week are you considering? If I can make a suggestion, weekends are preferable to terms of being able to commit.

I hope we can get enough players...I can probably round up a few.
Kieran - Sunday, March 12 2006 @ 08:52 PM EST (#142404) #
Oh, sorry, forgot a few details...

EXPERIENCE: roughly 15 years organized baseball + 5 years 3-pitch
PRIMARY POSITION: pitcher, middle infield
EQUIPMENT: I have a set of bases
Geoff - Sunday, March 12 2006 @ 09:04 PM EST (#142405) #
But if anyone wants a map to the Pits.
eeleye - Sunday, March 12 2006 @ 10:13 PM EST (#142407) #
Um I can play. Let me know. I'm 21, but relatively inexperienced, but I love playing.
VBF - Sunday, March 12 2006 @ 11:19 PM EST (#142409) #
[insert Ken Brockman-like 'woohoo' followed by several chair swivels]

I'll just go over a few things to keep everyone in the know.

-Friends are encouraged and welcome to come participate. But to keep track of everything, they like everyone else will have to come here and post their information.

-People are absolutely encouraged to form a team on their own, full of their own people, as long as they just all posttheir info on here to keep track of everyone. Use your own judgement, that is if you're Jason Frasor and reading this, chances are your friends won't be at our skill level.

-Christie Pitts is a longshot, just so that nobody jumps to conclusions.

-The lady in charge of issueing permits only accepts applications in April when a venue will be chosen. If *ANYBODY* knows somebody who knows somebody who can hook us up with a venue that's central to Toronto (at least TTC accessible) please let us know. It would be greatly appreciated even if you don't plan on participating.

-I've set up an email at Along with posting here, dropping a line here just to double confirm would be appreciated, just so that we can get everyone on one common address list.

-I think I can speak for Jobu when I say that we'll absolutely prefer and even insist on weekends, preferably Saturdays, and before the Jays game (4:00). In a perfect world, we'd play at Coronation Park and be a 5 minute walk from the RC.

-Before teams are divided up, drop us a line at the email above if you want or prefer any other bauxites on your team. Teams will be based on skill level as mentioned in the thread, and we'll do the best job we can without actually seeing people play.

-If you're Pete Rose, don't bother. Gambling's fun, but taking out the opposing team's catcher isn't. Remember, there's some beginners here, so I'm sure there's a compromise between winning and fun.


My own info:

-I've played ball competitively and semi-competitively for about 12 years, 6 as a catcher. Think of a slower Benjie Molina with a .004 CS%. (Yea, that's hard to picture, I know).

A - Sunday, March 12 2006 @ 11:21 PM EST (#142410) #
Most definately in.

I was out today playing catch at a soggy school field. It just doesn't compare to playing organized ball.
John Northey - Sunday, March 12 2006 @ 11:29 PM EST (#142413) #
I'd love to play, but since I live in Georgetown and tend to work until 6 pm most nights it would be hard. I'd love to jump in now and then but, unless the teams play somewhere north of the 401 and west of the 400 it would be hard for me to do more than a few games here and there. Btw, my skills are very poor but I always try my best. Got 2 AB's with the University of Guelph team back in '93 (was doing the stats and, due to a game the night before and this game being a morning one they were short a guy) but struck out both times and misplayed the only ball hit to me. That was my last baseball game, outside of a pitching performance with a company I used to work for vs their kids - 22 runs allowed in one inning, followed by me cracking a home run off a 12 year old (yes, we played real baseball with kids from 8 to 12 vs a group of overweight, out of shape adults). ie: do not, under any conditions, let me on a mound unless you want to help out the confidence of someone hitting.
VBF - Sunday, March 12 2006 @ 11:29 PM EST (#142414) #
Oh also, rules and the whatnot will be discussed once we see some numbers pour in, i.e. innings, pitching, umpiring.

Personally, the more I think about it, the more I can see it'll be necessary we have umpiring. The last thing we want is bad blood and the like.

Last but not least, kutos to the crew at Batter's Box for letting us use up some internet space so that we can all live the dream!

A - Sunday, March 12 2006 @ 11:36 PM EST (#142415) #
Apologies for not reading properly (I blame this squarely on JoBu for presenting an offer that made me too excited to read).

I have a second left-handed glove and some old baseballs (not sure how many at this point). Might also have a right-handed glove or two if I can liberate them from my dad/brother.

As far as experience goes, I played organized ball for about 7 years, including on my high school team (Coach was my coach but don't blame him for the 20lbs I've gained since then or that I haven't swung a bat in three years).

As far as positions go, I can play a pretty decent defensive 1B (a bit shorter than the typical firstbaseman), a strong defensive (but left-handed) 3B and I can log some innings as a LHP with some nasty movement (but spotty control). With an above-average arm I can also play a reasonable RF but I do make Prince Fielder look like Ben Johonson (on roids).

(If you're wondering why I didn't say anything about my bat it's because there's nothing to say).
VBF - Sunday, March 12 2006 @ 11:47 PM EST (#142416) #
Oh also, if this league doesn't pull a CBL, I'll be purchasing some brand new catcher's gear. If you're a catcher and/or if you have gear, please note.
Glevin - Sunday, March 12 2006 @ 11:58 PM EST (#142417) #
Depending on the location (i.e. not a 2 hour subway trip) I'd definitely be in. There really are an incredible number of baseball diamonds in the city, but I don't know which are rentable and which you just have to show up in uniforms and make it look like you rented the field. I stopped playing a few years ago because A) my league went to Scarberia B) I tore an intercostal muscle. I used to pitch and play all the IF positions, although I played OF too. I'm afraid of what I'd field like now though.
VBF - Monday, March 13 2006 @ 12:07 AM EST (#142418) #
It doesn't matter! Give us your old, your weak, your diseased, your incompetent, your armless, your rookies, and your slow!

Geoff - Monday, March 13 2006 @ 12:09 AM EST (#142419) #
Hey! Maybe Pat Tabler could play then.
joemayo - Monday, March 13 2006 @ 01:13 AM EST (#142424) #
great idea guys! kudos for getting this thing organized. i'm in for sure.

as for experience, i played "competitively" from t-ball up until high school (6 years ago) with one summer of beer league softball thrown in there. in the last 3 years i can probably count how many times i've played catch on just one hand (sad i know) so i won't offer much in the way of skill. but i can play a mean right field (Braden and i platooned RF in high school - you better be in too) so sign me up!

Andrew - Monday, March 13 2006 @ 01:24 AM EST (#142425) #
I'd like to do this, but if games start soon I can't do them; I'm stuck in Waterloo until late April.

I have very little experience since past I was ten or eleven or something, but I'd like to pick the game up again.

I'll see if I can get a couple people not on this website to join up with this -- is that okay with you folks?
Jobu - Monday, March 13 2006 @ 02:46 AM EST (#142427) #
Thanks for all the support so far everyone!!! Keep 'em coming!

First to answer some questions:

Specific gamedays and home fields will be voted on after we get our minimum goal and the season will DEFINATLEY start AFTER April, no need to worry about that.

For Sweat and John: 40 is our most basic requirement to just authorize the league (though you are correct, it is admitedly conservative), if we can achieve that, we are also looking into allowing pay-as-you-go guests after that, such as John.

To everyone: Not only is bringing in non-Bauxite friends allowed, it's ENCOURAGED, we need everyone we can get. Provided they will be commited and we recieve all the information about them (see below). Please let us know ASAP.

and now

*************** STOP SCROLLING AND READ THIS***************

Please follow this exact process if you are interested in signing up. Doing this will make it MUCH easier on me as it's all required.

If you (or a friend) are interested in signing up please post your desire on da box and then add the following:

1) Your baseball experience/level
2) If you can pitch overhand baseball
3) What equipment do you have? (Remember, all players must aquire their own helmets and gloves)

Then email me (at the above "lookatmeimflying" addy) and also the torontobaseballleauge addy with the following:

1) Your full name
2) Your phone #
3) Your baseball experience/level
4) Can you pitch overhand baseball?
5) What equipment do you have?

Sorry for the redundancy but we'd really appreciate it if everyone could follow these steps and make less work for us.

If you've already posted but skipped one of those steps PLEASE email us with anything you've missed.

Thanks again to everyone involved in making this work and any questions/comments can be posted or sent to either email addy.

Bring your friends!
SimonB - Monday, March 13 2006 @ 04:47 AM EST (#142429) #
It's a possibility that I will be interested in this but I'd like to see if I can play for my Little League team first. I'm 20 and I played up until last year and I'm not entirely sure if I'm permitted back for another year.

I'm a fairly serious player, nothing special but a decent contact hitter and a good defensive 3B. I've never missed a summer and I don't want this to be the first - I definitely need to find a league of some size, shape or form. I can pitch although I haven't done a whole lot of it.

The competitiveness of this league is definitely an issue, however. Whatever I end up doing, I would like it to be as competitive as possible. I have no interest in a beer league atmosphere.
SimonB - Monday, March 13 2006 @ 04:50 AM EST (#142430) #
BTW - Coach was also my high school coach. That was about 4 years ago, however, and I've actually improved quite a bit since those days.
Named For Hank - Monday, March 13 2006 @ 08:11 AM EST (#142431) #
I'm not in for playing (haven't played at any level since I got that concussion from a fly ball hit right at me in T-ball when I was seven years old), but if you guys get the league together I'll come out and cover some of the games for Photo of the Day and your own amusement.
VBF - Monday, March 13 2006 @ 11:39 AM EST (#142435) #
Good question Simon. I'm pretty competitive too, and I want and play to win. Of course, the team attitude's toward this will impact motivation to win, this league will be semi-competitive.

I think we've all seen enough Drew Carey and Seinfeld episodes to get the idea of what a Beer League is like. This isn't a beer league.

For example, in Beer League, you might trot around the bases, half-assed and not really care what the outcome of the game is. Again, it's going to depend on what you're team is like (from the feedback so far it looks like a few are somewhat/pretty competitive) so I think every team should play to win, but not go all Pete Rose on us.

Another example might be that if I'm a catcher and I see the runner on first stealing, instead of not really caring as some might in a beer league, I'm probably going to gun a throw down to second, in which due to my own physical inability to throw out runners, will usually lead to the runner being safe.

So I think the attitude will be competitive, but since there's rookies, armless, and diseased people in the league, people's physca; limitations will also come into effect. If you've ever seen Sandlot, I think the games would resemble that game that the Sandlot kids played the kids from the other, richer, side of town. Competitive, but not stupidly competitive.

The decision on whether to have umpires or not will also affect the competitiveness of the league.
Kieran - Monday, March 13 2006 @ 02:10 PM EST (#142447) #
Without umps I suppose the catcher could call balls and strikes, or else someone on the bench (from behind the screen)...obviously umps are preferred.
DrJohnEvans - Monday, March 13 2006 @ 03:54 PM EST (#142455) #
I still can't believe how awesome an idea this is.

1. Experience: Nothing beyond millions of years of little league. And I wasn't good. I sucked so badly that I swore off all sports ten years ago. Then I got into competitive ultimate four years ago and learned to love sports again. So I'm in shape, but my baseball skills are certainly more than a little rusty.

2. Sure. I could pitch overhand when I last played. (Please note that I didn't say I could throw strikes.) I'd love to try it again.

3. Glove.

Thanks guys. This is awesome.
tik - Monday, March 13 2006 @ 04:55 PM EST (#142457) #
I don't post all that often so I feel a little strange asking to join a league but...

1. 15 years experience, including rep ball. Also 5 years of umping various rep leagues.

2.I have pitched for most of those 15 years and can do more than just throw over the plate.

3. I will have a glove and helmet. I also have a set of bases around without nails. I may be able to get my hands on some very used catching equipment.

Also permits for Christie are very difficult to get your hands on. Saturday mornings/afternoons are usually impossible due to TP house league teams playing during the morning and the field being groomed in the afternoon. May I suggest Bickford park as another option. Although left field is very short because of the hill, it has great subway access (it's due south of Christie Pits for those who don't know the park) and the dugouts are nice because of the natural shade that the trees put up. That can be a lifesaver on hot July afternoons. Thank you for putting this league together.
VBF - Monday, March 13 2006 @ 04:56 PM EST (#142458) #
Hey again!

Alot of people are talking about friends they're bringing, this is awesome, but they're going to have to post their stuff here like everyone else, relatively soon.

For a friend of a bauxite, we'll request the same info as in Jobu specified, plus the bauxite that you are connected to.

Brando - Monday, March 13 2006 @ 04:59 PM EST (#142459) #
I am very interested in this.

1) I played organized baseball up until age 18 - both hardball and softball. Since then, only rarely. I am currently 26.
2) If you can pitch overhand baseball - Yes, I used to be decent and I am going through my arm exercises already.
3) What equipment do you have? I only have two gloves, and batters gloves. I would be willing to buy a helmet and a bat.
Thomas - Monday, March 13 2006 @ 05:14 PM EST (#142460) #
I'm only in Toronto for half of this summer (in all probability), but I'd love to play for that half.

1) I've played about 8-10 years of house league. I'm a 2B by trade.
2) Not particularly. In an emergency, but only then.
3) Nothing beyond my own glove.

See my e-mail to you guys for more detailed answers.

However, this is a great idea and I'm quite excited about it already.
VBF - Monday, March 13 2006 @ 05:18 PM EST (#142462) #
Although left field is very short because of the hill, it has great subway access

Sounds like my kind of park!

Don't worry about being lurkers or not posting much. EVERYBODY is welcome.

Terran - Monday, March 13 2006 @ 06:29 PM EST (#142467) #
1) organized kid softball for years but it's been about 5 years since I played. I was originally a shortstop but spent most of my time in the OF, and at that level there are very few fly balls.
2) I don't have experience pitching
3) I have/can acquire a batting helmet, bat (aluminum or wood), batting glove and fielding glove

I'd like to play but it's important that you realize that I probably suck. I sucked when I played little league softball (in fact I was a bit afraid of the ball) and I haven't even done that for years. So skill being a serious issue I may not be eligable.
VBF - Monday, March 13 2006 @ 06:47 PM EST (#142468) #
Skill doesn't matter!

It really doesn't. All we require is motivation to win, love of the game, and desire to have fun and enjoy it.

Kieran - Monday, March 13 2006 @ 07:10 PM EST (#142470) #
I'm seriously salivating at the thought of playing some REAL ball beerball is fun, but - call me crazy - I miss the little things like working on my pickoff move and the like. I really hope this takes off.
VBF - Monday, March 13 2006 @ 07:34 PM EST (#142473) #
This is awesome everyone. We're at about 18 right now in a 24 hour period, 19 if we can find a spot and time which is desireable to Monsieur Northey and that's not including any friends people are signing up of which should add about 15 more. If we could get up to 27 bauxites plus friends, we'd be sitting pretty.

zaptom - Monday, March 13 2006 @ 09:10 PM EST (#142479) #
Humph. I'm really missing out on this. I'm working up north near Orillia this summer at camp, so no watching the Jays on TV, and no totally awesome Bauxite baseball league. Just me and my lil radio that barely picks up the Fan590... It's going to be a long summer. Thank god for September baseball.
VBF - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 12:42 AM EST (#142486) #
Just to note this again:

If you have friends who are interested in signing up, we need them to do so as soon as possible. Decisions about the fate of the league will be made as soon as we can get an accurate read of who's playing or not.

Adrock - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 11:38 AM EST (#142491) #
One option you may wish to consider is Stanley Park at King and Niagara (more or less). They have 2 diamonds there, and I don't think the demand's as high as at Trinity Bellwoods.

Some friends and I used to play pickup baseball there a few years ago against some guys from the neighbourhood. It's TTC accessible and there's plenty of room in the outfield, even if there were a few too many divots. Plus, after the games you can walk down the street to the Wheat Sheaf for cheap beer and cheap food that's surprisingly good. I recommend the chili.

I can't commit to playing, unfortunately (3 nights a week are already booked with soccer and softball) but if the league gets up and running I'd be happy to fill in or bring in players on a game by game basis.

Experience: Thousands of pop flies caught in the park across the street from my house growing up; 12 years slo-pitch; 3 years modified; survived cut from 55 down to 25 in my last year at Westdale High School, but didn't make the final roster.

Pitching Overhand: Not a shot. I may have tendinitis, and my fastball topped out at 66MPH back when my shoulder didn't hurt after throwing...

Equipment: 1 glove that needs to be restitched, 1 softball bat, 1 batting glove.

VBF - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 11:49 AM EST (#142492) #
Cool, Androck!

Maybe you might want to reconsider your availability. I think it's generally unlikely that games will be during the week and much more likely to be on the weekends, and preferably in the late morning and early afternoon :)

Geoff - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 12:33 PM EST (#142493) #
If most players are downtown this wouldn't make much sense, but if there was an issue of a location for downtown players to meet those outside, perhaps the Baycrest field at the 401 & Allen would be a good junction for subway and highway transportation.

See here for more info on the location (and a list of other locations)
VBF - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 05:14 PM EST (#142512) #
Hey guys, the current magic number to have a league with 4 teams is 16. We need 7 more to field three teams and maintain some form of league.

This is the inaugural season after all, so even three teams would be a success. I see big things in the future.

Three teams would likely mean that one team would get a buy every week, so games would be once every two weeks. If you thought you wouldn't have the time for once a week, maybe having the buy will peak your interest. Games will likely be on the weekends and preferably in the morning.
VBF - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 05:33 PM EST (#142513) #
Also thanks for the parks, Geoff. Admittedly living in Misisssauga I wasn't totally sure about the exact locations of some of these parks, so your helpfulness is really well appreciated.

In the end, the location will come down to a vote once we see the plausibility of some of these places--I'd like to keep the parks within subway reach, but we'll still take what we can get. I know that getting around in Toronto via non-subway means can be really, really challenging and time taking.

And the magic number is now 15 and 6!
Rick - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 05:44 PM EST (#142516) #
Count me in. This should be really cool.

1) I've played houseleague for 14 years, with some high school in there too.
2) I've pitched at the houseleague level for the past 9 years.
3) I have a lot of metal bats, and I should have some used catching equipment. I definitely have a lot of used balls, many still in reasonable condition.
HippyGilmore - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 06:18 PM EST (#142518) #
Just emailed you guys.

I played 6 years of house league when I was a kid and a beer league last summer. I've got no equipment. I can pitch and I'm pretty good at not beaning people but it's pretty much 50/50 whether I'll throw a ball or a strike (I'm like Ted Lilly at his worst last season) so if you don't want super long games I should be the last option.
Useless Tyler - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 06:19 PM EST (#142519) #
1) I played for 4 years in a league when I was *much* younger, and no I was never particularly good (not the worst on my team, but generally a drag on them) - the only times I've played since then have been the occassional pickup game with my high school friends, where my colossal ineptitude was brought to the forefront, and where my lack of a helmet had me concentrating more on surviving than hitting ;-)

2) I cannot pitch accurately, though I can do crazy windups for humour value.

3) I have a fine glove and a nice wooden bat

This is completely dependent on what my work schedule ends up being this summer.
Geoff - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 06:23 PM EST (#142520) #
Some minor corrections to your system if I'm not mistaken.

If there are three teams and one team gets a bye each week, that would mean each team would play twice every three weeks.
Jobu - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 06:29 PM EST (#142521) #
Good point Geoff.

Though I should also stress that 3 teams would be the 2nd worst case scenarion (worst being no teams of course). We're all really pulling for 4 teams if at all possible. 3 would only be in the event of an emergency.
VBF - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 06:31 PM EST (#142522) #
Oh, that makes more sense. That's actually a bit better too.

Thanks everyone for signing up! The magic number is 4 and 13.
Geoff - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 07:12 PM EST (#142526) #
You could also entertain yourself with satellite maps of the parks: Trinity Belwoods, Baycrest, Christie Pits, and I believe this is the High Park diamond.

One of the demands of non-subway means is parking, so I'll just drop this hint as well for choosing a location. I suggested Baycrest as it is next to the Yorkdale subway station and has ample parking at the mall. Perhaps the players enlisting should mention whether they will be subway goers?

Geoff - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 07:18 PM EST (#142528) #
And it looks like Coronation Park is down on Remembrance Dr.
VBF - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 07:57 PM EST (#142529) #
I think we're also considering Moss Park. During the day, it's any old park. The plusses are that it has washrooms, is shady, and is right downtown.
VBF - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 08:02 PM EST (#142531) #
This park also looks pretty nice. Anybody know the name?
VBF - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 08:20 PM EST (#142532) #
Each team will be responsible for their own equipment and batting helmets will be mandatory.

Also guys, don't forget about that. You don't all have to go out and buy a helmet, but as long as theres 5 helmets on every team, it's okay (5 being in a situation in which there's bases loaded). And if you want to purchase one, they're generally prettty inexpensive. I think you can get one for 20 bucks at a Canadian Tire.

Matthew L - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 08:23 PM EST (#142533) #
Fantastic idea. Sounds fun and competitive. I'm very interested. My commitments on weekends are few, and I would love to play.

Before I forget: do any Bauxites know of batting cages in the High Park area, or in Toronto generally?

Experience: 5 years of Little League (I'm 29 now--so it's been a long time). Decent glove work at second and the outfield, but with a bat that would cause Mario Mendoza to look away in horror.

Pitching: Some mop-up experience. Perhaps a LOOGY.

Equipment: None at present, but if the league starts up, I will purchase bat, glove, etc. I can buy some baseballs or other common equipment if need be.

Good luck with this!
Anders - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 08:32 PM EST (#142535) #
As a couple of other people have said, Im only around for about half the summer, and I played in many of those pickups games at which Useless Tyler was ridiculed. So while Im gone for the June July part of summer, Im here for august, and most of May, and could definetly recruit a bunch of people that actually currently play competitive baseball to come out to the odd game.

1) I played softball for a couple of years in my younger school days, then played for Trinity in the Toronto Rec league for about 4/5 years, tyke/peewee/bantam/etc. That was about 3 years ago, before I started working at a camp full time
2) I hit too many people to be a pitcher, but I can play pretty much everything else (catcher as ss poorly though)
3) All the basics, plus a bat or two.

Also, while it is slightly hard to get, Trinity Bellwoods is awesome, and a 15 minute streetcar ride from the dome. There are 3 fields, and I live right beside it, so people could come over for punch after the game.
Smaj - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 08:46 PM EST (#142538) #
Matthew L - you may want to examine

for a cage & indoor facilities. Its a great spot & well run.

This is a great idea guys, unfortunately I am not a Torontonian
VBF - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 08:48 PM EST (#142539) #
There are batting cages somewhere at the Docks. I haven't visited them myself. There's also outdoor cages at Centennial Park in Etobicoke and indoor cages at the Blue Jays Zone at Playdium in Mississauga.
tik - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 09:25 PM EST (#142542) #
Playdium is the best ones I have used. Although I haven't gone down to the docks yet. Stanley Park isn't a bad option. I'm curious to know if the city is harder about handing out permits to hardball teams. I was talking to a friend today who suggested that may be the case.
williams_5 - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 10:13 PM EST (#142546) #
I think I'm in.

-I played little league and rec league, but that was about 10 years ago, mostly at 1B
-I can't say I have much experience pitching or catching
-I have a glove (somewhere)
VBF - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 10:27 PM EST (#142548) #
That's excellent, william_5!

Just drop us a line at the emails listed above.

I just sent a pretty big, informative email to all who've signed up. If you didn't get it, drop us a line.

We're pretty close to three full teams, but theres tons of space available. Heck, there's unlimited space available. Keep the registration coming!

williams_5 - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 10:43 PM EST (#142551) #
I'll be coming from Hamilton to take part in this, so if anyone else from the area is playing or thinking of it, perhaps a car pool could be arranged...
A - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 10:48 PM EST (#142553) #
Just north of the park VBF was curious about (I don't know anything about it), there is a fairly good park. Eglinton Park is just around the corner from Yonge & Eglinton, behind the North Toronto Memorial Community Center. I'm not quite sure how to get it on the map but its got two diamonds with pitching mounds. The south diamond has a short porch in right (ie the parking lot) and the north diamond essentially goes as far as you can hit.
eeleye - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 10:50 PM EST (#142554) #
VBF, you asked " This park also looks pretty nice. Anybody know the name?"

I think that is on the UCC campus. I think they Jays have practiced there in the past along time ago. It might be hard to have them let us use it....
Geoff - Tuesday, March 14 2006 @ 11:19 PM EST (#142558) #
Here's Eglington Park for you, A.

The secret of securing a spot on the map for a link is to click 'link to this page' link at top right. To change the text displayed, edit the URI.

Kieran - Wednesday, March 15 2006 @ 09:01 AM EST (#142569) #
When I played in the mens league before, we played at Riverdale park (the baseball fields are on the west side of the DVP). There are no fences, but the infields were in decent shape (all gravel, no grass cut outs). Just throwing out another option. I've never played at Trinity but the reviews of it sound good from what the Bauxites are saying.
DeMarco - Wednesday, March 15 2006 @ 10:59 AM EST (#142578) #
Let me know if you are greating a Kitchener-Waterloo-Cambrige division.

I haven't played for a few years, but would like to get back into baseball (not softball). I'm a pitcher, and can play SS/3B.
hiscores - Wednesday, March 15 2006 @ 11:30 AM EST (#142580) #
I'm in!

Experience: Played in overhand leagues as a kid and in random softball leagues as an adult, better than a rookie but not by much...
Pitcher/Catcher: Nope
Equipment: None, unfortunately, aside from a helmet and a glove..
jimmylarsoni - Wednesday, March 15 2006 @ 12:28 PM EST (#142585) #

I play in a mens baseball league in Cambridge. If you are interested in playing there, e-mail me we could always use more players (
tik - Wednesday, March 15 2006 @ 01:56 PM EST (#142591) #
Trinity is an OK park. The outfield has got a ton of potholes and is littered with dog crap. Also right field goes down into the basine of the park. It also does not have a mound. I would consider it a last option. If anybody wants me to make some calls to various parks just let me know which ones haven't been contacted yet.
VBF - Wednesday, March 15 2006 @ 02:46 PM EST (#142593) #
I'm currently in the process of investigating and and looking through all the attributes of all these parks and will have an excel shpreadsheet listing all of the ones considered, for everyone to view and eventually vote on.

I'm also going to call the baseball diamond parks lady and see what kind of permitt fees we're talking about. Does anybody have any experience with getting permits in the past?

Thanks everyone for their helpfulness. If you build it, they will come :)
Hamboy - Wednesday, March 15 2006 @ 02:56 PM EST (#142594) #
Hey... if there's still room, I would like to participate...

1. I have played some highschool ball (over hand) and 5 years or so of beer league (under hand) - positions wise, I've pitched, catched, and played both corner infield

2. I can pitch in a pinch, but nowhere close to 80mph while I was playing highschool ball

3. I have my own glove and a jock.

As for diamonds... I know it would be impossible to get them, but downsview park has 5 diamonds with fences so if anyone could hit it over, you could do the homerun trot.
VBF - Wednesday, March 15 2006 @ 03:02 PM EST (#142595) #
Excellent, thanks for signing up!

Don't worry about room!! There's tons of it. In fact, there's UNLIMITED room!
Mike Forbes - Wednesday, March 15 2006 @ 07:22 PM EST (#142609) #
I really wish I lived close enough to join this league, I've always wondered if you guys were all talk when it came to baseball or if you could backup your talk with a little action. ;) Haha, anyways, good luck with this, I want to hear about some great ball being played.
A - Wednesday, March 15 2006 @ 11:09 PM EST (#142612) #
Then you're on the wrong site, Mike. =)
VBF - Wednesday, March 15 2006 @ 11:56 PM EST (#142613) #
One more thing, not necessarily pertaining to the league or anything (although it's related to the league) but I'm purchasing some new catcher's gear and like any sane person will probably go to Ward and Patch Sports for it. I'm looking at the Easton Natural Series (Never a big fan of Rawling's gear). Any catchers out there have any advice for what the better gear is these days or God forbid can get a better price elsewhere?

Unfortunately I've been forced against my will to use Rawlings the last four years, which I didn't like.
Magpie - Thursday, March 16 2006 @ 12:46 AM EST (#142614) #
My son Liam, a long-time Box Lurker who stubbornly refuses to actually join this ongoing conversation, is fired with enthusiasm for this project. He's been playing high school ball, he pitches and roams the outfield. And he's got some friends who would be keen to join the fun.

The bad news is that there will be all kinds of not-so-subtle pressure exerted to get me - me! - to haul out my glove and sneakers. I haven't played baseball since high school, and I think that was during the Nixon administration. I haven't even played softball in at least ten years. This very winter, I decided that I had finally gotten too old and and out of shape to play ball hockey with the young fellas.

With any luck, I'll be working weekends, and will have a firm and reasonable excuse for not humiliating myself. Otherwise... I may actually have to participate.

In that case, please, please please.

Be gentle with me.

Jobu - Thursday, March 16 2006 @ 01:16 AM EST (#142615) #
Well then Magpie, the only question is do you prefer the father and son on the same team cliche, or the father and son on opposing teams cliche? Only slightly kidding, hope to see you there if you choose to dust off the bat.

BTW, just for fun, here are the available team names for the league this season:

The Royals, The Devil Rays, The Mariners, The Rockies, The Pirates, The Reds, The Marlins, and The Nationals.

More details on how each team gets to vote on their name after the league is ratified. (Hey, remember that bad guy Rattigun? He was cool. Man Vincent Price is awesome).
tik - Thursday, March 16 2006 @ 01:23 AM EST (#142616) #

I would try giving National Sports a call. They can have some decent prices on various gear. Although at this time of year, prices are going to be at a high.
VBF - Thursday, March 16 2006 @ 01:37 AM EST (#142617) #
Thanks tik!

If you're thinking "Hey what gives Jobu? Why do we have to be such a crappy team?!!" you're probably not alone.

Basically, we wanted to have regular names--I guess it dates back to a childhood thing. It's also pretty easy to keep track of. The thing was, if we opened it up to all teams, the name "Jays" would be fought over harder than a pair of discount socks at a Winners. There'd probably be blood, and we really don't want that.

So we picked the worst teams in baseball, the teams that nobody ever wants to be when they pretend to be MLB heroes. The teams that when you see play, you cringe at the hideousness of their logos (Cinci, Bucs, and KC excluded). And hence you have the list that Jobu presented.

There will be a vote in the near future on who gets named what.

Stay tuned for details.

tik - Thursday, March 16 2006 @ 02:39 AM EST (#142618) #
The Nationals are a last place team have a nice looking hat I think. I wonder if they will use the DC logo that they have been wearing in spring training at all during the season?
Kieran - Thursday, March 16 2006 @ 02:44 AM EST (#142619) #
Those names are no worse than the last team I played on...the BREWERS. We even had to wear their old school hats...which was kind of fun. I felt like Teddy Higuera!
zaptom - Thursday, March 16 2006 @ 03:05 AM EST (#142620) #
If your looking for classic names that will last for eternity, try these on for size:
* Milwaukee Beers
* Miami Dealers
* New Jersey Informants
* San Francisco Ferries
* Roswell Aliens
* L.A. Riots
* Dallas Felons
* San Antonio Defenders
* Detroit Lemons
Oh Baseketball. What a waste of two hours of my life. It's one of those horrific movies that somehow keep you watching because you think it gets funnier towards the end.
o-dawg - Thursday, March 16 2006 @ 10:23 AM EST (#142621) #
I'd like in, even though I just moved to Toronto and, well, I'm a fan of another team whose name I won't mention.

Experience: hardball until I was 15 (I just passed 30), and various levels of slo-pitch the last few years
Postion: OF, including CF.
Pitching: Nope
Gear: Glove, cleats, etc. I'll pick up a helmet (and probably a new glove) if this is a go.
VBF - Thursday, March 16 2006 @ 10:32 AM EST (#142623) #
Welcome! Well, the D-Backs have a hideous logo and aren't very good, so I think we can include them in the list of teams. :)

Just send your contact information over to the addresses listed above and you're off to the races!
eeleye - Thursday, March 16 2006 @ 10:59 AM EST (#142629) #
Sorry to shove this on you VBF or whoever, but I found another friend who wants to come and play. I don't know how pressed for time I am, but here is his email...He doesn't know anything about the league.

Charles Trapunski

eeleye - Thursday, March 16 2006 @ 11:01 AM EST (#142630) #
Perhaps let me know if you've emailed him?
Geoff - Thursday, March 16 2006 @ 11:34 AM EST (#142633) #
Regarding the team names, I think the most important thing to distinguish are the team colours. That said, I'd hope we'd avoid picking a number of blue or teal teams to the exclusion of more distinguishing team colours.

I was already hoping that Cincinnati, Pittsburgh and KC would be three of the teams. I also thought the A's would be a good one to add just for colour purposes. [disclaimer: I'm strongly hoping that I get to use my 70s retro Bucs cap]
Fish Taco - Thursday, March 16 2006 @ 11:36 AM EST (#142634) #
I'd like to be on the Isotopes.
Grimlock - Friday, March 17 2006 @ 11:49 AM EST (#142769) #
Me Grimlock would be interested in playing some ball.

1) Couple years of house league as a kid. Played SS in Grade 3 and RF in Grade 5. As you can see, me Grimlock's defensive decline occured VERY early. Was team MVP in high school playing 1B, but our team went 0-8 and blown out in every game. Turned a 3-2 double play once. That was good times. The MVP more of a most valuable versus most outstanding player type of thing.

2) Not really... not much control, was clocked once at 60 at one of those speed things at the Ex.

3) Glove.
John Northey - Friday, March 17 2006 @ 02:10 PM EST (#142786) #
VBF - you emailed me earlier about the league, but for some reason I keep getting bouncebacks. If it is weekends/mornings then I could play a lot more, but not in early July (vacation first 2 weeks, covering 3 weekends). Anyone else here from the Georgetown area? We could look at a car pool to games.
John Northey - Friday, March 17 2006 @ 02:12 PM EST (#142788) #
Oh, btw, big fan of a Royals team. For some sick reason I still cheer them on as one of my 'Jay alternates'.
VBF - Friday, March 17 2006 @ 02:36 PM EST (#142792) #
Yup, weekend mornings are what we're targeting. Weekends for sure because there's no summer school or work, and mornings because Jays games are on afternoons.

Also for bauxites who think they may be a little too far for this league, the GO Bus has buses regularily going from Brampton, Georgetown, Hamilton, Milton, Pickering, and as far north as Beaverton. I personally will be taking the GO Bus to games.

eeleye - Friday, March 17 2006 @ 03:28 PM EST (#142797) #
First of all: YAY, 100TH POST!!!!! Second of all, I like the idea of playing at night on the weekends, like Saturday after the Jays game...isn't that so much more romantic and field of dreams-esque????
VBF - Friday, March 17 2006 @ 03:38 PM EST (#142799) #
isn't that so much more romantic


We'll see. People are busy on weekends and stuff, so by having it later, it probably cuts into other people's schedules which we really don't want. Playing under the lights is pretty cool though--though we'd then have to find a park with lights which might have it's difficulties. We're going to take what we can get though when it comes time to submitt an application for a permit.

Jobu - Saturday, March 18 2006 @ 01:34 PM EST (#142864) #
I just wanted to thank everyone again for their support!

Things are really comming along and without jinxing it, it looks like my dream may soon come true.

NFH: In communist Russia... dreams jinx YOU!

So if you have any friends, show them what they have to post (dont forget I added the "can you catch?" question) and have them reply.

As it says in the update, there will be one day TBD where I will collect the league dues. If for some reason you dont think you'd be able to meet me (which must be hard given I haven't named a date or location yet) just email me and will figure out some alternate payment or somesuch.

Also, if anyone has any random questions feel free to email me, even if they're just about batting rules... or teams... or Tom's all good.

Anyways, thanks again to everyone for their support and if you need to contact me for anything at all please don't hesitate.
JayWay - Saturday, March 18 2006 @ 06:13 PM EST (#142883) #
Some of us have Season Passes and will be attending those Saturday/Sunday afternoon games. I don't know about the others, but I don't feel like dragging baseball equipment with me to games. Not only that, but spending a day sitting under the blazing sun watching baseball leaves me drained and I'm in no condition to play a game of ball afterwards. I like to grab a bite to eat and relax after a Jays game, not get ready for a game of my own.

I don't know how other Cheer Clubbers/Season Pass holders feel, but that's my opinion.
eeleye - Saturday, March 18 2006 @ 07:50 PM EST (#142923) #
How, can you just throw out a number of how much the league will cost - preliminary....If some of the places are cheaper than others - can we consider doing those too?
VBF - Saturday, March 18 2006 @ 07:54 PM EST (#142926) #
It's going to be up to a vote as to the PRIORITY of what parks we apply for.

In the next week, everyone will have a chance to vote on their desired parks. From there we will create a list of most favorite to least favorite and work down the list with our applications.

I have no clue what permit fees will cost, but it won't be alot. It's really hard to put out a number, but if I had to say, twenty dollars? And then add umpiring costs, which is per capita, a dollar a game.
Jobu - Sunday, March 19 2006 @ 01:06 PM EST (#143005) #
**************UPDATE MARCH 19************************

Hello sports fans! And welcome to another season of Cleveland Indians Base-...uh... I mean...

The goal is in reach everyone!! We're waiting out for one gentleman who says he's rounding up enough friends to put a team together and once they register that will put us over the edge and we can all play ball this summer!

If this team does join we will have enough to have almost 13 players per team, as such we will use the house league "fielding rotations" with everyone going straight through the batting order 1-13. If you are unfamiliar with this system, I am currently drafting the TBBL handbook which will be emailed to all memembers and given out in hard copy at the first game or league meeting for league dues.

*Damn I'm so excited.... just had to say that*

To answer some above questions (and everyone is free to email):

Jayway: We are currently aiming for Sat mornings at 10am. Naturally this could all fall apart once we find out more about field rentals, but that's our goal. The Jays only play three Saturday 1:07 starts the whole season. So you should probably make them all comfortably if we get our playing time (10-12) and you'd only have three days to worry about.

League Dues: I'm sorry if anyone got the impression from my previous post that I will be quoting a random number on league collection day. That is certainly not the case. What I meant to say is once VBF and I calculate the final price, then we'd announce that. Unfortunaltly as VBF explained, we really cant mention any league fee at this moment. VBF's been in contact with the Toronto Parks and they keep telling him to call back April 1st for the field prices. After that, we will send everyone a spreadsheet listing all the possible fields, their pros and cons and HOW MUCH EACH ONE COSTS. Then it's the will of the majority as we put that to league vote and the winner will become our home turf. After that we tack on umps and any more league equipment that I can no longer afford to pay out of my pocket that is absolutley necessary. That aside, we too are on budgets and are trying to keep the costs as low as humanly possible.

*******ANOTHER UPDATE**********************************
VBF has just informed me that if we get this team in waiting to register, we'll have to cap the league otherwise we'll have too many players. Never thought I'd have to say that. So if anyone's waiting in the wings, better move it now.

Thanks again for all your support.
Geoff - Sunday, March 19 2006 @ 02:11 PM EST (#143009) #
My understanding is that Saturday morning is one of the toughest time slots because the kids' leagues make a habit of getting that, while adult leagues are more commonly Sunday evenings for a weekend slot.

And rather than mailing spreadsheet files (which some may not be able to open) I'd suggest putting it on a web page. Ideally, you'd email a unique code to everybody that will enable them to vote once (or even change their vote) and I could make a script to do that if you need the help. But with forty guys, maybe you'd rather just count the votes yourself than let a computer.
Jobu - Sunday, March 19 2006 @ 02:29 PM EST (#143011) #
Hey Geoff,

Thanks for the tips. The spreadsheet will also be posted as a jpeg, sorry for forgetting to mention that. It's definatly a good point.

For this and any future league votes, we'll probably just go on by an email system of collecting votes, easy to keep track of.

You are right about Sat morns being difficult, but we're very hard headed and are gonna keep trying. Hopefuly it all works out for the best.
Daryn J - Sunday, March 19 2006 @ 05:42 PM EST (#143023) #
I'd like to play.

I played highschool ball and about 4 years in a men's league -- stopped playing about ten years ago. I'm a centrefielder.

I can pitch -- meaning I can throw strikes. I threw out my arm at 19, and can now only throw about 60 mph.

I have a glove, bat and bases -- I think I also have a helmet.

VBF - Sunday, March 19 2006 @ 05:55 PM EST (#143024) #
Awesome Daryn, just drop us a line at the email addresses listed above!

SmP - Sunday, March 19 2006 @ 06:21 PM EST (#143025) #
Finally got my account approved...WOO HOO!

Experience: Played Rep until 18, had a chance to play college ball but decided to stick with music. I'm an idiot! However, I have not played in at least 6 years and most likely will suck hardcore.

I can pitch but not one wants to face me, especially right handers. If pitchers are a rarity, I would need someone to catch me for a few outings prior to the season to see if I can get my control and velocity back up to 80. But I really would rather not pitch. I was never good.

I have a glove and helmet. And a jock!

I generally played 3rd or SS, but can also play 1st. I may be a little too slow now to play SS, but have experience there. I CANNOT play the outfield, as I am terrible at reading the ball from that distance. My knees are too shot to play catcher.

Oh, and I can catch a ball. I think.

VBF - Sunday, March 19 2006 @ 06:26 PM EST (#143027) #
Awesome, SmP! Just drop us a line at one of the above given emails with your contact phone number and you'll be in business.

I can get my control and velocity back up to 80.

No, that won't be necessary... :)

SmP - Sunday, March 19 2006 @ 06:26 PM EST (#143028) #
One more thing ...

As for when we vote on parks- I am not sure where everyone is from on here, but playing downtown if the majority of people are not living there seems odd. Somewhere in the middle of the east and west, like high park, may be ideal? Some of us may drive and getting downtown and paying for parking may be a problem. I guess we will see how everyone votes.

Also, I live in Etobicoke. Anyone want to get together to throw the ball around and maybe hit some cages on the weekend? I could use some help in shaving off some rust from the old arm and hitting a cage may help with timing. Just a thought. If anyone is interested let me know:

Take care!

SmP - Sunday, March 19 2006 @ 06:29 PM EST (#143029) #
VBF - I have emailed yah...last week. You said I was already good to go. Name is Mike Kolaric.

As for pitching... only as a last resort would I pitch from time to time. I really have bad control and tend to hit people. I'd rather not get mound charged and would rather play the infield. I have not thrown in 6 years so me pitching would be a bad ideal. Like I said, last resort!

VBF - Sunday, March 19 2006 @ 09:20 PM EST (#143034) #
Oh okay Mike, gotcha ;)

The idea of a downtown diamond isn't as bad as it may seem. Subway routes make it possible for people travelling from way East and way West and way North to be downtown in a few minutes. The parks in downtown are convenierntly placed in other places as well--restaurant for after the game, washrooms, and a certain Major League baseball stadium which many of us will likely be heading afterwards.

Not to mention how cool it is playing ball with the skyline of Toronto in the background. It's only subway stops from High Park and it offers way more. :)

However though, vote for what you guys want. We'll get into that later this week though.

SmP - Monday, March 20 2006 @ 12:39 AM EST (#143049) #
Anyone know of any cheap places to pick up a pair of cleats and any other baseball gear?

I have gotten one suggestion and want to check out a few more places.


VBF - Monday, March 20 2006 @ 01:03 AM EST (#143050) #
Oh yea and while we're on that, it would be highly, **HIGHLY** recommended that you get yourself into some sort of cleated shoe.

Pitchers and catchers are a must for safety reasons, but for others I highly recommend you look into it. You'll have a hard time playing ball in runners.
VBF - Monday, March 20 2006 @ 07:28 PM EST (#143111) #
Also, we're going to need everybody to try to wear colours of their team, but they must wear some sort of clothing with a number on the back, for scoring purposes.
Kieran - Monday, March 20 2006 @ 11:55 PM EST (#143120) #
I'd be willing to buck up for jerseys...if we chose MLB teams we could buy replica jerseys.
VBF - Tuesday, March 21 2006 @ 01:12 AM EST (#143124) #
I think we're going to let the team organize that amongst themselves.

Replica jerseys might be a little much to spend, especially for a blank one but if team captains would be interested, I can forward them to a few good athletic wear places (And don't worry, teams haven't been finalized yet).

You could probably even get hooked up with a full uniform for under 50 per person.

And if that would be the case, we might consider opening up the names option to include the Jays.
tik - Tuesday, March 21 2006 @ 01:18 AM EST (#143125) #
Saturday mornings are near impossible. Sunday mornings are much more possible. What parks have you been calling for permits? As for jerseys, if people really want them, lets just get t-shirts. Even replica jerseys aren't cheap, and personally I'm not going to shell out for a rockies jersey.
VBF - Tuesday, March 21 2006 @ 01:22 AM EST (#143126) #
Hehe. I was supposed to wait until April 1st to start submitting applications, but anxiety got the better of me so I sent one early yesterday. I haven't gotten a reply yet but I applied for

1) Moss Park
2) High Park
3) Stanley Park

In a worst case scenario and we don't get any of the parks that we apply for, we have something up our sleeves. Information to follow.
Sanjay - Tuesday, March 21 2006 @ 02:23 AM EST (#143130) #
I would love to play as well if there is space available. My skills range from medicore to terrible ;-) Played some rep ball during my high school years. Would be comfortable playing LF or 3B.

Here's a list of some ball parks in Toronto which may help with the search:

I was thinking a more central location might be more accessible by everyone. Something near the 401 near Yorkdale (Dufferin) or Yonge, which are both accessible by Subway as well as by car.

I live in Woodbridge, so i'll be driving everywhere regardless.

I also have a friend who plays in a Mens League in Mississauga and Oakville, he can throw the ball in the 60's-Low 70's. He would join as well if there is space available.

SmP - Tuesday, March 21 2006 @ 11:44 AM EST (#143144) #
Both High Park and Stanley would be ideal for those both driving and busing.

Where is Moss Park?

Geoff - Tuesday, March 21 2006 @ 11:48 AM EST (#143146) #
The survey says: here.
VBF - Tuesday, March 21 2006 @ 11:49 AM EST (#143147) #
Moss park occupies the block at Sherbourne, Queen, Jarvis, and Dundas. It's close to the Gardiner and the DVP.

Thanks for all the tips guys, but we've done quite a bit of research. A voting process will be announced soon complete with a description of these parks, and you can have your final say :)
Jobu - Tuesday, March 21 2006 @ 11:51 AM EST (#143148) #
Hey Sanjay,

Great to have your support. Be sure to send an email filling in the registration checklist to the lookatmeimflying and the torontobaseballleague hotmail accounts (see above for both the questionaire and the emails).

As per jerseys, teams will be given alot of autonomy regarding their uniforms, all we ask is that you always have a number on the back (even if it's made of tape before each game).

By the way: if anyone can catch, it would be tremendous help if you could just re-email me stating that you can catch. Even if you've done so already in previous emails.

Stay tuned for another league update soon and thanks again to everyone's support.
SmP - Tuesday, March 21 2006 @ 11:56 AM EST (#143149) #
I'm a moron.

By catch I thought meant catching a ball...not playing catcher.


Good thing I'm blonde, I have an excuse to fall back on.

***cannot catch***
williams_5 - Tuesday, March 21 2006 @ 11:44 PM EST (#143186) #
Im posting on behalf of my friend Steve Hall (who has emailed you)
-his experience is the same as mine (some experience, but he pretty much sucks too)
-no pitch, no catch
-a glove

My other friend Jay Kokoski is the exact same...if he hasnt emailed you yet he should be doing so by tomorrow...
JC - Wednesday, March 22 2006 @ 03:35 PM EST (#143213) #
If its not too late, I'd like to add three to the list:

Jeff Charlesworth
Experience: High School and beer leagues. Nada since 97.
Pitching: Not a chance
Equipment: Nothing to contribute, just stuff for myself.

Vic Lucente
Experience: Can spell baseball. Very little else.
Pitching: I doubt it
Equipment: Plans to buy glove and spikes

Marlon Pieris
Experience: High School
Pitching: Not sure
Equipment: Glove and Spikes

Sending the e-mail now.
paulhoffmann - Wednesday, March 22 2006 @ 04:14 PM EST (#143216) #
I'm definately interested in joining.

1) Your baseball experience/level: Some
2) If you can pitch overhand baseball: Yes
3) What equipment do you have? Helmet & gloves

VBF - Wednesday, March 22 2006 @ 08:24 PM EST (#143230) #
Okay everyone. We've just reached our limit of 44 bauxites, so we won't be accepting any more registration at this point.

However, I highly anticipate some people dropping out once they have other commitments and whatnot. So we'd like to start a waiting list based on the order that people post in this thread after me.

Between and now and June, there's a pretty good chance that you would get in.
Kieran - Thursday, March 23 2006 @ 07:46 AM EST (#143244) #
I just spoke with a friend last night who is interested. I realize he's missed the deadline, but I will still send an email in case a spot opens up.
Glevin - Friday, March 24 2006 @ 02:55 PM EST (#143308) #
Just a few questions, comments, and random thoughts.

1) Hold off on buying helmets for now. A team in total only needs a maximum of 5 or 6.
2)A couple of leagues I was in would play 1 of 2 types of games. A single 9-inning game or a 7-inning doubleheader. 9 inning games are more official obviously and faster, but 2 - 7 INN ones allow you to play 2 full games, have two starters, etc...
3)Maybe the most important thing-Some teams have 9 people batting orders and some have whoever shows up can hit and rotate into positions. Both have their merits and problems.
4) There obviously have to be uniforms of some sort but that can be anywhere from wearing the same very different shirt colours (red, blue, white, black, etc...) to full-on numbered uniforms.
5) In my experience, more important than who can pitch, is who wants to catch.
6) Scoring can be a problem, but having the home team score usually works.
7) 11 players per team seems pretty low.
8) Wood bats or aluminum?
9) A lack of a manager (or co-managers?) could be a problem as well. In softball, it doesn't matter much, but in hardball, there are a lot decisions that have to be made that matter (batting order, when to take a pitcher out, telling a guy who is 0 for 73 in SB not to run, etc...). Also, managers can have some sort of team philosophy (we never bunt, we run everytime on base, etc...) which can avoid chaos that sometimes occurs.
10) It doesn't really matter which park the games are at (although someone mentioned the one just south of Christie Pits that would be perfect for me!). It would be nice though if we could get a nice park, with fences (Christie Pits, there is one near Lawrence and Bathurst I used to go to when I was a kid. I can't recall the name, but it has fences, lights, etc..Maybe it was Ledbury?) for the playoffs/final.

Anyway, just a few thoughts...
VBF - Friday, March 24 2006 @ 03:32 PM EST (#143313) #
1) Hold off on buying helmets for now. A team in total only needs a maximum of 5 or 6.

I concur, unless you want one to call your own.

2) A couple of leagues I was in would play 1 of 2 types of games. A single 9-inning game or a 7-inning doubleheader. 9 inning games are more official obviously and faster, but 2 - 7 INN ones allow you to play 2 full games, have two starters, etc...

With four teams, we plan on having two games each week on the same day. This means every team will have one game a week. Becuase of field costs, each game will be one seven inning game and go on for 8 or 10 weeks of the regular season. If we went with two nine inning games, registration costs would skyrocket well past $50 a person, which would hurt registration. Up to you guys--wait, don't respond to this just yet, we'll ask you later.

3)Maybe the most important thing-Some teams have 9 people batting orders and some have whoever shows up can hit and rotate into positions. Both have their merits and problems.

Not sure what you mean by this. Each team will have a set roster. Teams that cannot field nine players will forfeit the game, however they have the option of "calling up" a non-registered player. This wil be covered in the upcoming TBBL Rule Book.

4) There obviously have to be uniforms of some sort but that can be anywhere from wearing the same very different shirt colours (red, blue, white, black, etc...) to full-on numbered uniforms.

I concur. Teams that want to go all out will do so on their own with their own dime. All we ask is that you wear team colours of some sort and have a number on the back.

5) In my experience, more important than who can pitch, is who wants to catch.

We're always looking for catchers, but we're okay as it is.

6) Scoring can be a problem, but having the home team score usually works.

We graciously thank the volunteer who has helped to do this.

7) 11 players per team seems pretty low.

Not including the entire team that will be registering shortly. That puts 44 players on three teams and hence why we had to cut off registration for the meantime.

Now! However, there are ways in which we could have large rosters and still get everybody playing time. Though it would involve things like having a DH and bench players which can lead to a whole other slew of problems. Wait for the rule book... 8) Wood bats or aluminum?

Up to you. Again, look out for the TBBL Rule Book coming out shortly.

9) A lack of a manager (or co-managers?) could be a problem as well. In softball, it doesn't matter much, but in hardball, there are a lot decisions that have to be made that matter (batting order, when to take a pitcher out, telling a guy who is 0 for 73 in SB not to run, etc...). Also, managers can have some sort of team philosophy (we never bunt, we run everytime on base, etc...) which can avoid chaos that sometimes occurs.

Have fun with it, teams. You're only as competitive as you choose to be. If you want to go out and hire somebody, be my guest.

10) It doesn't really matter which park the games are at (although someone mentioned the one just south of Christie Pits that would be perfect for me!). It would be nice though if we could get a nice park, with fences (Christie Pits, there is one near Lawrence and Bathurst I used to go to when I was a kid. I can't recall the name, but it has fences, lights, etc..Maybe it was Ledbury?) for the playoffs/final.

The reality is that everybody wants a park next to their house. I hate to be blunt, but it ain't gonna happen. Not to sound like a broken record, but there will be a vote!!

I'd like to go and tell you about all the advances in securing a park we've made, but I'll let you wait. It's part of the fun.

Glevin - Friday, March 24 2006 @ 05:46 PM EST (#143328) #
"Maybe the most important thing-Some teams have 9 people batting orders and some have whoever shows up can hit and rotate into positions. Both have their merits and problems.

Not sure what you mean by this.'

Most leagues that aren't super-competitive will allow everyone who shows up to play. So, people rotate taking an inning off and the batting order may be 10 or 11 people long. You get to hit less and it is less like MLB baseball but you don't get anyone who sits on the bench all game either.

"The reality is that everybody wants a park next to their house. I hate to be blunt, but it ain't gonna happen. Not to sound like a broken record, but there will be a vote!! "

That wasn't my point. I just said it would be nice if the final at least were held in a nice park. (fences, lights, etc...)
SmP - Friday, March 24 2006 @ 06:58 PM EST (#143341) #

I just had a comment regarding coaching.

Each team if they want to, could assign a coach from their roster, or a few guys who can work together, creating a bit of a coaching staff.

I have some coaching experience so if the team I am on wanted someone to coach, I could fill that role, along with anyone else who wished to do so. I guess it's up to the teams and how much they would listen to a fellow player without egos getting in the way.


Have a great weekend!

Jobu - Saturday, March 25 2006 @ 02:19 AM EST (#143377) #
Howdy folks,

I'm currently penning the official TBBL rulebook over this week. It's been a long process as it's fairly long and I have exams to work on so please bear with me. If you're really dying to know something about the league feel free to email. In mean time I can answer some of the questions posed that VBF didn't address already.

1) Each team must have at least 6 helmets, but as always, the more the better. Teams should work it out so we dont have a situation where EVERYONE's holding out hoping someone else springs for a 10 dollar helmet.

3) We will be using a system where the batting order will be over 9 people long, and as you said, people take turns sitting out fielding. This process is extensively explained in the forthcoming rulebook.

9) We will be selecting "Team Captains" for each team (also explained in the rulebook). There will be a certain amount of responsibility for Team Captainship which will be described later, so the position does come with a bit of homework everyweek. The Team Captains will also serve as coach during the game.

10) All our potential fields have fences.

Thank you for your patience regarding the rulebook, I am trying to complete it as expeditiously as possible. Also coming down the pipe are field votes and registrar info.

Stay Tuned Folks.

Anyone remember that really weird movie "Stay Tuned" staring John Ritter? Are NFH and I the only people who watch these things?
Kieran - Saturday, March 25 2006 @ 01:13 PM EST (#143396) #
I don't mind taking on a coaching role on my team either. PS: Just got back from Ward and Patch where I picked up a new glove (old one was at the end of its life). I held off on the batting helmet, as maybe I can "colour-code" it to our team jerseys! Anyway, just being in the store was getting me excited.
VBF - Saturday, March 25 2006 @ 03:31 PM EST (#143402) #
It's a really awesome store. You can get anything there.
Geoff - Saturday, March 25 2006 @ 04:00 PM EST (#143404) #
Perhaps some cash to cover park fees, etc. can be raised with a little corporate sponsorship?

Someone could try talking Frank D'Angelo into sponsoring one of the teams that we could call the Cheetahs.

Kieran - Thursday, March 30 2006 @ 04:41 PM EST (#143774) #
Hey, not to pester, but when can we expect the next update with regards to our weekend league?
Jobu - Friday, March 31 2006 @ 01:04 PM EST (#143840) #

Sorry for the delays, organizing a league can be tricky when term papers are due.

Thank you everyone for signing up, the league has more than met the 40 person requirement. We stand between 45-50 right now, so we will be playing ball this summer!

VBF will be emailing everyone on the waiting list to grant them entry into our semi-glorious league.

Unfortunatly... Toronto Parks and Rec can be a bit slow on the uptake so we're still waiting for word back as to which fields we can use/vote on and how much they cost. This is the real sticky wicket and what is holding up the works. As much as I'd like to move things along, we can't have a league vote, or tell you more about league fees until we get some kind of info back from TO P&R. Until then, I ask of your patience while we try to get things going as quickly as we can.

The 2006 rulebook will be out soon and should give everyone something to do and an idea what the league will be like in the mean time.

Thanks again for making this a success and dont hesitate to ask any further questions.
Kieran - Friday, March 31 2006 @ 05:04 PM EST (#143872) #
Jobu - thanks for the update. I'm super excited...been working in the new glove...hope I still have a curveball in the tank!
Jobu - Tuesday, April 04 2006 @ 12:12 PM EDT (#144210) #

Hey all,

Speaking of opening day, here's our opening day roster for the TBBL.  The purpose of this is for -hopefuly- everyone to look the list over and confirm their name is on the list.  If you've already sent me or VBF an email to register and your name isn't on the list, it doesn't mean you're cut, it just means we messed up.  So if you've attempted to register and your name isn't on the list quickly email us at either above address to let us know.

This is time sensitive. I will allow people about one week to email if their name has fallen through the cracks to fix the situation.  After that, this will most likely be the final roster. Which is very important because next week I will be posting a crucial FIELD VOTE that will require 100% voter turnout and will greatly affect the league, so you want to make sure you're registered so you can vote.

Anyways, in no particular order, here's our list of registered players (PS: For some reason it randomly double spaces and I don't know how to fix it):


Adam Prime
Andrew MacKenzie
David Edwards
Gabriel Levin
James Davies
Lowell Selorio
Marcus Robinson
Adam Chaleff-Freudenthaler

Braden Hunt
Mark Pytlik

Anders Whist

Dave Griebeling
Orin Del Vecchio

Daniel Schwartz

Joe Buscemi
Rob DePodesta

Greg Williams

John Northey
Jeff Charlesworth

Jason Karp

Jordan Brown
Vic Lucente J

eff Holloway

Kit Birchard
Marlon Pieris

Kieran Roy

Mike Bates
Kien La

Liam McIlroy

Peter Quinsey

Sheldon Lawrence

Rick Valenzano
Paul Digiandomencio

Thomas Ayers

Ryan Dadoun

Tyler King

Albert Park
Brandon Parlette

Matthew LaGrone
Steve Hall

Michael Kolaric

Paul Hoffmann
Kevin Girard
Mathew Osmak
Brian Matthews
Thomas's Bro

Jobu - Wednesday, April 05 2006 @ 05:30 PM EDT (#144473) #

Oh, I forgot to clarify some things:

-If you haven't registered at all yet, you're still free to do so as long as you follow the checklist earlier in the thread. You have until April 13th, 11:59pm to register.

-In case of dropouts (though I sincerly hope we can avoid that), people are still welcome to register after the April 13th deadline, though they will be placed in a waiting list, and will be added to the league in case of any drop outs.

Thank you

Michael - Wednesday, April 05 2006 @ 10:06 PM EDT (#144489) #
How come Rob's message from March 12 at 11:28 wasn't featured (id #142421)?  I entered this thread looking for the unfeatured comment (because I was interested in what the only unfeatured comment would be when I saw 146 comments, 145 featured).  I thought old comments pre-new update would always be featured.

Also, potential technical issue when I clicked on "Reply to this" from Rob's message I didn't get his message in the Post a Comment screen.  Normally I do so I can quote from it, but here I have no message on this screen.

Rob - Wednesday, April 05 2006 @ 10:12 PM EDT (#144491) #
I unfeatured it for two reasons:
1) Since the comments were before the changeover, and every comment pre-switch is featured by default, I wanted to see if unfeaturing an old comment in an old thread actually did anything. Obviously, it did.
2) There wasn't much to the comment, anyway.

So believe it or not, not every single Rosterite comment is featured! :)

Kieran - Wednesday, April 19 2006 @ 12:12 PM EDT (#145479) #
Hey Jobu - Any update on the vote? thanks for your hard work putting this together.
SimonB - Thursday, April 20 2006 @ 12:38 AM EDT (#145492) #
I sent an email about a week or two back (sometime after April 5 and before April 13) but I haven't gotten a reply or anything. What's up?
Rob - Thursday, April 20 2006 @ 01:05 AM EDT (#145493) #
The quite busy Joe Buscemi has sent me an update on the league. See the top of the article for the information.
Jobu - Wednesday, April 26 2006 @ 03:55 PM EDT (#145883) #

Hello fellow future TBBL'ers:

I apologize again for the lengthy abscence of any updates for the last couple weeks. I became much busier with exams that I originally thought I would (go figure). During this off time I also finally recieved some information.

Let me begin this update by posting an up to date roster list. We've had some dropouts and some dropins so make sure you're here if you're supposed to be and not here if you've politely declined. Again, I'm not perfect so let me know if there's an error, I'm not trying to ban anyone. ;)

Daryn Jeffries
Derek White
Peter Wiebe
Evan Williams
Zach Couture
Steve Hyland
Simon Neuwelt-Broder
Adam Prime
Andrew MacKenzie
David Edwards
Gabriel Levin
James Davies
Lowell Selorio
Marcus Robinson
Adam Chaleff-Freudenthaler
Braden Hunt
Mark Pytlik
Anders Whist
Orin Del Vecchio
Daniel Schwartz
Joe Buscemi
Rob DePodesta
Greg Williams
John Northey
Jason Karp
Jordan Brown
Jeff Holloway
Kit Birchard
Kieran Roy
Mike Bates
Kien La
Liam McIlroy
Peter Quinsey
Brandon Parlette
Sheldon Lawrence
Rick Valenzano
Paul Digiandomencio
Thomas Ayers

Ryan Dadoun
Tyler King

Albert Park
Brandon Parlette

Matthew LaGrone
Steve Hall

Michael Kolaric
Paul Hoffmann
Kevin Girard
Mathew Osmak
Brian Matthews
Thomas's Bro


And now the meat of this post:

There will now be a VERY IMPORTANT league vote to determine playing field. This vote is MANDATORY to all members, so anyone who has not sent in a vote within a week from today will be considered as no longer interested in the league and will be dropped from the roster. If you know anyone on the roster, please get word to them that they should check out the update and vote.

As I mentioned earlier, the time between updates has allowed for some city workers to finally send information my way. And right off the bat I can finally answer the question of league costs with a definite answer. The previous league estimate of $50 from VBF and I was incorrect; I attribute that to excitement to get the league started and complete inexperience with creating a baseball league. I apologize. Finally receiving the costs for field rentals from Parks Toronto, combining them with the quote on umpire rentals, league insurance which I just discovered, as well as startup equipment and costs, this league can't operate without at least $100 registration fee, which is truly the bare minimum I tried to reach for everyone. Please keep in mind that this is the lowest price I could without paying extensively from my own pocket and also; not to toot our own horn but it is still a tremendous bargain. This price is about half the price of any other 18+ league and also works out to LESS than $10 per game.

That aside, here are the voting options. Please send your votes to torontobaseballleague<AT/hotmail/dotcom> and please place the phrase Park Vote somewhere in your subject line.

OPTION ONE: The TBA Toronto Parks and Rec Field

While I have received rental costs, T.O. Parks and Rec has STILL not informed me if we can even get a field, where it would be, and what time we'd be playing. Assuming we do get a field (they told me they'd inform me by "early May") I requested one that would be TTC/subway-accessible in the downtown area, as well as being on Saturday mornings. I requested Stanley Park, so hopefully they give us that and you can use that location as reference point. This option would bring us right to our financial limit and leave us strapped for equipment.


It would be TTC accessible to TTC-only people.
We might find an early morning time slot.


We might not get a field anyways and have to default to option 2.
We'd be playing mostly on whatever equipment we can gather from ourselves.

OPTION TWO: The Free Use of Smythe Park

This next option has been made entirely possible by Jim Turner of Toronto Baseball Guys and I wish to thank him personally for all he's done, he's really gone out of the way for us. As a coach in the league that owns Smythe Field, Jim has graciously procured for us free use of the field Saturday evenings from 5 - 11pm. The field is quite nice and we'd have free use of the speaker system if anyone feels like up-to-the-plate music. This option allows us to get new equipment for everyone (maybe even helmets for all to keep). The downside is it might be a difficult place to get to for people who are strictly TTC.

You can see the field's location here:

<img src=> Smythe Park </img>


We'd have a field guaranteed.
There would be enough money to purchase decent equipment.


Travel may be hard for TTC bound people (if there are only 5 of you I would volunteer to pick you up from a subway station).
We'd be playing Saturday night instead of Saturday morning.


So that's everything. You have one week from today to vote and voting is MANDATORY. Please send your votes to the torontobaseballleague address, include the phrase Park Vote in your subject line, add your full name and any comments you may have in the body of the email with your selection of option one or two.

Thank you again everyone, either way this should be a fantastic time and I can't wait to PLAY BALL!

VBF - Wednesday, April 26 2006 @ 04:10 PM EDT (#145884) #

And just to re-iterate: Make sure you include the words "PARK, VOTE" in your subject heading or else everything will get really complicated for us.

Just a bit of research for people looking at transportation to get to Smythe Park. The subway stop would be "Jane" and the bus route to go up to Eglinton is the "Jane N 35". For those paying cash fare, since I don't believe you can transfer from subway to bus on the same fare, you're looking at about 11 dollars of transportation (subway there, bus there, bus back, subway back) , multiplied by 8 games at least, and about 88 dollars for the season. Transportation time would be a good half hour at least.

By voting for a City Park, you don't necessarily sacrifice playing at Smythe Park. If a City Park is unable to be found there is no doubt we will end up at Smythe Park eventually.

Excalabur - Wednesday, April 26 2006 @ 04:29 PM EDT (#145885) #
TTC has free transfers from subway-bus.  Just remember to get a transfer on the platform where you get on the train, and to request a transfer from your driver on the bus going the other way.  This is assuming, of course, that nothing particularly strange is going on at Jane station....
Jobu - Wednesday, April 26 2006 @ 04:41 PM EDT (#145886) #
Or if people prefer (though I'll have to cap this at 5), if you collect at a common subway station I'm willing to give people lifts from the station to the park and back.
Geoff - Wednesday, April 26 2006 @ 06:04 PM EDT (#145889) #
If the Smythe Park map isn't enough --- there is a sattelite view.   And for reference ---------------->

A few queries about the options:

The precise time slot for option 1 would be an important detail for me. Any more specifics to come available?

And on the league costs (my apologies for scrutinizing), how many people don't have helmets?  I understood we wouldn't be required to purchase uniforms, we had bases, and there were catchers with gear? What equipment costs are necessary for option 2?

SmP - Wednesday, April 26 2006 @ 06:54 PM EDT (#145891) #
I too can drive people in my area.  I can meet them at Jane as well if we go with option #2.  If the field is free, it only makes sense that that option is a good one.  I'm in the 427 and Rathburn area so anyone in my area can hitch a ride. I can take 3-4/
SmP - Wednesday, April 26 2006 @ 07:00 PM EDT (#145892) #
By  the way ...

If you get a transfer from the bus you take to the subway, you can use it at the buses at Jane.

williams_5 - Thursday, April 27 2006 @ 01:54 AM EDT (#145903) #
Hey, another of my friends who signed up still doesnt seem to be in the list...i had emailed you originally on his behalf if i recall correctly...he said he emailed about it as well but didnt hear anything back...I'll get him to try again but in the meantime just to put it out there...Its Jason Kokoski, same info as me. Let me know if thats a problem. THanks.
BallGuy - Thursday, April 27 2006 @ 10:59 PM EDT (#145965) #

 Smythe park is only a 7-8 minute ride on the Jane bus. For a more pleasant busing experience, you could also get off at the Runnymede station and take the 79 Scarlett bus but its a bit of a walk to the diamond from the bus stop. The Jane bus stop has a Tim Hortons and Beer Store...what more could you want?

Smythe park  diamond is quite nice....I live about a 2 minute walk from it.

John Northey - Friday, April 28 2006 @ 04:07 PM EDT (#146000) #
Just sent in my vote for Smythe Park (175 Scarlett ,Toronto,ON).  For those of you on the west side (outside of Toronto) it would be as good as we'll get.

Use the 401 to Eglington (right around the 427) then go west to Jane, go south to Black Creek (5th street on the right) and you are there.   Google says it is a 42 minute drive for me but past experience says it shouldn't be more than 30 unless Eglington is in a mess.
VBF - Friday, April 28 2006 @ 05:31 PM EDT (#146006) #

I hold the master copy of the members list, and Jason Kokoski is on it, so don't worry William.

If Smythe Park is indeed chosen by the majority and you are a regular at the RC (like many of you are) for Saturday games, drop us a line and we can schedule games so that you miss the minimum amount of Jays games on Saturdays.

John Northey - Wednesday, May 10 2006 @ 05:16 PM EDT (#146657) #
Haven't heard anything on this in awhile and was wondering the current status.  I tried emailing the hotmail address and it was bounced back.
Jobu - Saturday, May 13 2006 @ 12:15 PM EDT (#146846) #
Hello sportsfans, let’s get on to the update:

First off, in regards to the delays from the park vote update till this one, it can be explained in 3 ways:

1) I grew quite surprisingly busy
2) I was hoping I could give more time to T.O. parks and rec to FINALLY get some word back
3) I was DESPERATELY hoping that more people would vote!

I am truly disappointed to report that no less than twenty two (22!) previously registered players did not send in a single word one way or another and are presumed MIA or not a part of this league anymore unless I suddenly get word from them. They are:

Daryn Jeffries
Derek White
Evan Williams
Zach Couture
Simon Neuwelt-Broder
David Edwards
Gabriel Levin
James Davies
Lowell Selorio
Braden Hunt
Anders Whist
Daniel Schwartz
Jordan Brown
Kien La
Liam McIlroy
Sheldon Lawrence
Ryan Dadoun
Tyler King
Matthew LaGrone
Kevin Girard
Brian Matthews

I was expecting a couple MIA’s quite frankly, but this is totally unexpected and carries obvious league implications. Unfortunately, the league can not exist with this many dropouts (I know, a huge let down after the campaign drive). So if you’re on the above list, PLEASE take the time to let me know what’s up (you can just click on my name at the top). Which now brings us to... DEADLINE WEEK II: COUNTDOWN CITY

So here’s where we stand:

Those of you who were kind enough to send in a vote, thank you. But exactly half of you voted for each option, just to make things fun I suppose.

Therefore I am giving a ONE WEEK voting add-on (but a REAL seven days, not like last time).

If you want to be in this league, or you were but didn’t send in a park vote, send it NOW. Jim was gracious enough to offer Smythe park free of charge, but he also can provide almost 10 players if we choose his field, so if the weak voting trend continues, we may have to default to this option as we need all the bodies we can get.

So in one week, come back for the next update and I’ll put the pieces together and see where we can go from there. If few or no new people reply, we may have to shake up the league and go with a two team format. That would be an obvious disappointment, so PLEASE get your votes in and drag in anyone you know so we can stop these delays and finally get the league moving.
Geoff - Saturday, May 13 2006 @ 04:13 PM EDT (#146859) #
I sent an email to torontobaseballleague hotmail address May 2 or 3 with park vote in the header. I voted Smythe but was hoping to get more details about option 1.

Daryn J - Saturday, May 13 2006 @ 06:01 PM EDT (#146862) #


I did vote.  I voted for Smythe Park.

Is it possible that your email is not working, with so many unrecorded votes?


I look forward to playing.

Daryn Jeffries


Excalabur - Saturday, May 13 2006 @ 06:12 PM EDT (#146863) #
Jobu:  It's quite likely that a bunch of votes got redirected into your spam filter, due to assorted reasons including the identical subject lines.  Give your junk folder a look-at.

--Wishing I was in toronto to play...

John Northey - Saturday, May 13 2006 @ 10:12 PM EDT (#146867) #
The email address does seem to have problems as I sent a message there before posting here last week and got a bounceback.  Is there anyway to send a general email to everyone interested asking what's up and to reply?  I know I didn't notice the park vote here at first as I hadn't come to the site in a few days at the time iirc.  If needed I could help out with emails as I do send bulk emails at my job (we're not a spam company, just send to those who request it from our customers) and do have the flexibility to use it personally given I did write it.        
VBF - Sunday, May 14 2006 @ 09:16 AM EDT (#146874) #

How about if anyone whose name did not appear on the list, could you please vote within this thread. Fortunately, people here are civilized so I don't expect any virtual brawls to take place :)

If you registered for the league through a friend on here, could that friend possibly just pass your vote into this thread.

If you did send us an email with your vote already since the update, it would also be appreciated if you could vote on here and include your real name (or just your first) so that we know that we're not double counting people (for example, VBF is Jeff and not two people who voted twice)

Magpie - Sunday, May 14 2006 @ 10:04 AM EDT (#146877) #
I spoke with Liam yesterday and he told me he also had emailed his vote at the time. I'd tell you what he voted for, but I can't remember...
SmP - Sunday, May 14 2006 @ 12:12 PM EDT (#146887) #
"How about if anyone whose name did not appear on the list, could you please vote within this thread."

I thought the list was people who have not voted?

I'm confused.  Anyway ... I will re-vote.

Michael Kolaric - Smythe Park.
Magpie - Sunday, May 14 2006 @ 05:37 PM EDT (#146906) #
Liam says he just re-sent the e-mail, and get him on record here:

Liam McIlroy - Smythe Park ("far but free")

VBF - Sunday, May 14 2006 @ 06:49 PM EDT (#146908) #
Yes, that should read "anyone whose name is on the list".
Jobu - Monday, May 15 2006 @ 03:03 PM EDT (#146949) #
Thanks to those of you who have voted, or sometimes re-voted, or found a friend. I'd guestimate about 5 of the 22 have been accounted for, I hope this just a slow start.  So if anyone knows these people personally, see if you can get in touch with them.
Dj_S_Teutonic - Tuesday, May 16 2006 @ 08:35 AM EDT (#146978) #
Hmmm,  I see I'm on the "Short List" which after re-reading, seems to be a bad thing - I did in fact send an email to  It's possible I may have been overlooked because of that??

Attached original email

Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:37:15 -0400 (EDT) From:Me Subject: Park Vote To:"Baseball" <>

Hi It's Evan Williams,

I would be happy w/ option 2

Stoked to play.

williams_5 - Tuesday, May 16 2006 @ 11:17 PM EDT (#147028) #

Im trying to get ahold of Kevin Girard, who is a friend of a far as I know he is still in, but I dont know his vote....also, just in case, Jason Kokoski is still in and he votes option A. He wasnt on the "haven't heard from" list but he wasnt on any of the other lists either.


Jobu - Monday, May 22 2006 @ 03:47 PM EDT (#147353) #
I've been waiting for an email to confirm a vital field inquiry, I thought it would arrive by now so I could finalize things but not yet. I'll get that as soon as I can.

If anyone is available and has so little life that they could offer their services to help me organize some league things, that would be greatly appreciated. Please email at the above address if you're interested.

In the meantime, below you should find the new list of people who ARE registered. For those of you still missing in action after all this, I'll have you know the baseball gods will forever smite you.  Once again, please forgive any abscences. Most of the time people's emails don't have their real name in them and their email name isn't their real name and you try to cross reference and things just get lost in the shuffle.  Also if you know someone is interested but don't see their name let me know and they'll be added. So as of now we have:

Albert Park
Kit Birchard
Mike Kolaric
Adam C-F
Andrew Mackenzie
Kieran Roy
"Matt Something"
John Northey
Orin Del Vecchio
Brandon Parlette
Steven Hall
Jason Karp
Steve Hyland
Adam Prime
Peter Wiebe
Marcus Robinson
John Kelley
Paul Hoffman
Thomas Ayers
Chris Ayers
Greg Williams
Dave Edwards
Mike Bates
Mark Pytlik
Richard "squarehead" Valenzano
Paul Digiandomenico
Jeff Holloway
Daniel Schwartz
Me Grimlock
Liam Mcilroy
Patrick Curah
Daryn Jeffries
Simon N-B
Evan Williams
Jason Kokoski

Not a bad turnout provide we don't suffer another AWOL epidemic when it comes time to register. I'll also be downgrading this to a 3 team league to provide more of a cushion for absent players every now and then. So one team will play a double-header every week: AvsB AvsC, AvsB BvsC, AvsC CvsB, repeat. Or something like that. 

As per official registration, that will all be explained once the new TBBL website is launched in the next week. There you can all download the registration form, print them and mail them to me with a cheque, or if you prefer I'm planning an "open house" day where everyone can make it can come down to the home field, register in person, play a little scrimage and go out for brewskies.

So for now, mill over the registration list. Tomorrow the key email should arrive to cement things into place.

I'd like to keep the thread mainly for registration purposes so if anyone has any league questions or suggestions, please feel free to email me.

Hope to see you on the field!

Jobu - Thursday, June 01 2006 @ 01:03 AM EDT (#148093) #
The (substantial) wait is finally over!!

Gentlemen, the winning park is SMYTHE PARK.  A field to call our own, with in house speakers we may use for our own evil purposes as we wish.  Carpools from the subway station can be arranged by request.  A special thanks to Jim of Toronto Baseball Guys who made use of the field to us through his own hard work at the YBA (

So then, may I present to you our new TBBL website and the official launch of REGISTRATION '06!

Those on the roster should proceed to the "news" section first*. Please read the registration information VERY carefuly. It's there for a reason, please don't gloss over it.  As seen on the page, I expect EVERY player on the roster to email me (click my name) to inform me if they'll be able to register in person or not.  There are then clear steps to follow whatever your choice may be to RSVP, though we truly hope to get the majority of the league out to the park for Open House Day with special guest Kent "Coach" Williams.  Coach has asked that any players who (quite frankly) know they possess great skill, please contact me personally if you could be so kind as to help Coach run some of the practice drills rather than show off your mighty skills to the others, it would be appreciated. Also special thanks to those of you who volunteered to help me with league duties, I should be in touch shortly.

After the "news" section, click on the "registration" tab at the very top of the homepage to download the registration form you will obviously need to register, as well as the "team mate request from" for those who have made such requests, now's the time to put it on paper.

If anyone has even the slightest question about the registration process or Open House Day please feel free to post here.  Any other league questions, please direct them to either my personal email or the league email, as from now on I'm trying to keep this thread clear.

Thanks to the many people who helped make this league possible, you brought a humble joy to the heart of this old Italian stereotype.

Jobu - Thursday, June 01 2006 @ 01:34 PM EDT (#148122) #

Just because I don't have enough things to work on right now, Geocities has driven home the truth to "you get what you pay for". Many people have been turned away from the new site after seeing the meesage

Sorry, this GeoCities site is currently unavailable.

The GeoCities web site you were trying to view has temporarily exceeded its data transfer limit. Please try again later.

Are you the site owner? Avoid service interruptions in the future by increasing your data transfer limit!

So, the only thing I can recommend at this point is to keep checking back frequently, go in, read the "news" section, download the registration form(s) and then get out of there.

In the meantime I'm now looking to properly host the site for a fee so this doesn't happen anymore. More on that as soon as I can get it going. Best of luck with geocities in the meantime, try not to pull your hair out.

And don't forget to RSVP! I've got a grand total of 0 so far :)

jsut - Thursday, June 01 2006 @ 02:31 PM EDT (#148129) #
I've mirrored the PDF's here.

reg form:

friend request:

Jobu - Thursday, June 01 2006 @ 03:14 PM EDT (#148136) #

many many thanks to jsut for putting up the forms.  If anyone can access the news section they can see the registration steps.

1 RSVP so far, keep 'em rollin' folks.

Jobu - Thursday, June 01 2006 @ 07:42 PM EDT (#148153) #
With many many thanks to Joe Drew for his hosting skills, I am pleased to announce that the geocities site can be erased from your memory as we have a new homepage that (shock!) you can all look at without it crashing!

So you can all click away now without fear, and I hope the site explains everything to you.

2 RSVP's so far. Let's try and get that number up, registration day is coming sooner than you think and we can't afford to lose a chunk of members again in the bermuda triangle.

JayWay - Thursday, June 01 2006 @ 11:19 PM EDT (#148159) #


Both the pdf links you provided are "broken." Or at least that's the pop-up message I'm getting.

Jobu - Friday, June 02 2006 @ 01:12 AM EDT (#148164) #
It still works for me and a buddy of mine. Is anyone else having this error?
Jobu - Friday, June 02 2006 @ 05:37 PM EDT (#148191) #

As I noted a few posts earlier, this thread is being shut down as we officially move all TBBL news postings to our new site. Following Open House Day this thread will be abandoned and obsolete so please check the news section of the TBBL site frequently as I won't be sending out mass emails for every news post. Everyone please keep this thread clear save for general questions about Open House Day that all may wish to see, as I said, any other league questions should be sent directly to me or the league account. 

Your question will be answered via email shortly.

Not even 10 RSVP's and it's only a week away, common people!  As the news section says, please RSVP if you can or can't make it. Either way, everyone on that roster list above should send something.

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