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The Jays begin a four game set tonight against the suddenly slightly less awful Detroit Tigers at the Rogers Centre. A old rivalry is renewed, and the stakes are... well, not really that high.


The Tigers struggles are well known and have been well mocked. Predictions of scoring 1,000 runs, overblown in the first place, seem ridiculous now, as injuries and slumps and the ever so cruel regression to the mean seem to be taking effect. Don't look now, however. Detroit seems to be getting on track; they won three straight games and scored thirty runs before running into Fausto Carmona last night, who held them to one run as they took a loss. The Jays also have the fortune of missing the Tigers best pitcher, Justin Verlander, who got shellacked by the Indians last night.

Tonight the Jays match up against the Gambler himself, Kenny Rogers. 43 years young, Rogers is pitching in his 20th major league season, which is pretty impressive. He struggled with injuries last year, and this year hasnt been very good - he's 0-3 and allowed 11 runs in 14.1 innings with 8 walks and 8 strikeouts. Of course the Tigers didn't score a single run in any of his three starts, which might be why he took the loss each time. Rogers has had a pretty awesome career on the whole though. It's hard to believe that it was fourteen years ago that Rogers through a perfect game. I didn't remember it either, I know, but I was in grade school at the time. Rogers is also the owner of five Gold Gloves, and one of the best pickoff moves ever - he has 91 in his career, which puts him in a tie for first all time. Rogers can hit 90 on the gun occasionally (and definitely on the Sportsnet gun...) with his fastball, and will mix in a steady diet of curves, sliders and changes. Current Jays have hit him hard: Thomas is 21 for 61 with six homers, Wells is 12 for 36, Rios 9 for 20, McDonald 5 for 10, Scutaro 6 for 19.

Saturday we see Jeremy Bonderman take to the mound. Bonderman is only 25 but has a career 57-63 record and hasn't lived up to some of his early promise. He did throw 530 innings in the majors before he was 23. In any event, Bonderman has not been sharp this year - he has both struck out and walked 8 batters in 17.1 innings. He's been tweaking his changeup lately in an attempt to get on track. He wont throw a lot of them - he works off his fastball, which he can dial in in the mid 90s, or a little harder if need be. He also throws a plus slider in the mid-80s that has a lot of break and looks like a slurve, apparently. He'll get into trouble if he becomes too fine with his fastball and starts nibbling. Eck is 4 for 10, Stairs 12 for 24 with 3 home runs, Stewart 8 for 20, Wells 6 for 19. Everyone else has struggled - Zaunie is 2 for 13, Thomas 2 for 16, Rios 3 for 13, Hill 2 for 11.

The Sunday matinée sees AJ Burnett face off against left handed veteran Nate Robertson. Robertson, like every other Tiger starter, has struggled to begin the year. He's allowed 13 runs in 16.2 innings, striking out 16 against 4 walks. He left his start last Tuesday with tightness in his left lateral muscles but expects to pitch on Sunday. Other than that he is a quintessentially nondescript pitcher, except for his awesome glasses. He throws a low 90s fastball and a slider he uses to get righties out, as well as a changeup. He struggles going deeper into games and begins to elevate his fastball. He is poor at holding runners on, so expect to see some stolen bases - Pudge isn't what he once was behind the plate either, allowing 55 stolen bases against 24 caught stealing since 2007 - still pretty good, but poor considering he had thrown out almost 50% of would be basestealers before 2007. Scutaro is 4 for 14 lifetime with 2 home runs, Hill 7 for 14 with two dingers and Thomas 5 for 15 with one longball. Everyone else has struggled.

Another afternoon game on Monday, this time featuring call-up Armando Galarraga. He replaces the injured Dontrelle Willis. Galarraga one hit Cleveland over 6.2 innings Wednesday, walking none and whiffing six. He is 26 and not much of a prospect, however. He has a career 4.13 era in the minors in seven seasons but has posted pretty good k/bb numbers - in AA last year he whiffed 114 and walked 47. None of the current Jays have faced him I believe... It appears he throws mostly fastballs and sliders with the occasional change, with his fastball able to reach 93/94 on the gun. Take that with a grain of salt though.

The Tigers offense, meanwhile, was the much ballyhooed coming into the year, with multiple people suggesting they could possibly become the 8th team since 1900 to score 1000 runs. Former Mets GM and current ESPN, uh, analyst Steve Phillips suggested they had the "most dynamic offense in the history of baseball." No editorial comments here...

Anyway, offensive sparkplug Curtis Granderson has missed every game so far with a broken bone in his hand. Best case scenario is he returns in the middle of next week. Clete Thomas has been called up to replace him in the meantime and performed admirably, though he is a little bit over his head hitting leadoff methinks.

Pudge Rodriguez was recently anointed the best Puerto Rican ever to play in the bigs by noted historian Ozzie Guillen. The comments have apparently not gone over so well. Still, Pudge recently collected his 2500th hit, and is 11 homers away from 300. He's also caught the third most games all-time, behind Cartton Fisk and Bob Boone.

Carlos Guillen made the move to short to accommodate newcomer Edgar Renteria and has been hitting gangbusters style since, putting up a .367/.475/.653 line this year. He's tweaked a hamstring, however, and though he figures to stay in the lineup because he's playing first, don't expect to see him leg out a triple anytime soon (he has 44 in his career).

Placido Polanco's errorless streak finally came to a close after 186 games. Ironically he made the miscue trying to nail Manny Ramirez stretching a double into a triple. I know. The streak had been kept alive by generous scorekeeping for a while though, and he isn't the defensive second basemen A-RON is by any means.

In other news, Magglio Ordonez is back to hitting about where he should be... Brandon Inge has caught three games, played CF for 8 and 3B for another 7, all while hitting .304/.400/.543 in 56 plate appearances. Give than man something shiny... Gary Sheffield has both finger and shoulder problems and has been slumping at the plate; he's batting .209... Yorman Bazardo is actually named Yorman Bazardo.

Injuries: Dontrelle Willis fell awkwardly while pitching a week and a half ago and is on the DL for the first time in his career. Fernando Rodney has been given a clean bill of health after seeing Dr. James Andrews, and is expected to begin rehabbing soon. Joel Zumaya, the 100 mph man, strained his wrist playing guitar hero. Seriously. He's throwing off flat ground and could be back rehabbing on a mound in a week.

The Credit Section: All offensive stats, pitches per PA for pitchers and league average stats are from the Hardball Times. Pitchers' stats and leverage indices are from Fangraphs. Minor-league stats are from Minor League Splits and First Inning. K% and BB% are strikeouts and walks as a percentage of plate appearances; GB% + LD% + FB% = 100. These are 2008 stats, except where noted.



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scottt - Friday, April 18 2008 @ 06:14 PM EDT (#182939) #
Cabrera is .407 with 2 homers in his last 7 days. A good candidate to pitch around.

Robertson has been complaining of a tight back and might be lifted early Sunday depending on the match up.

I'd be willing to slide Thomas to 6th, behind Stairs who has been hitting well lately.

Rolen will  challenge for the 5th spot, if not higher, when he comes back, so a bit of shuffling might keep minds open, as long as nobody bats out of order.
jmoney - Friday, April 18 2008 @ 07:16 PM EDT (#182940) #
Congrats to Purcey on his first major league start.

So far, he comes as advertised. Good stuff, poor command.

scottt - Friday, April 18 2008 @ 07:58 PM EDT (#182942) #
Wild Thing!
Mike Green - Friday, April 18 2008 @ 08:43 PM EDT (#182944) #
"Wild Thing" is licensed by Mitch Williams, and would not augur well for Purcey's future. I tried Silk, but it doesn't fit really.

If they had put a heart rate monitor on Purcey tonight, I am betting that they would have been calling in the cardiologist.  The adrenalin was obviously pumping.

Mike Green - Friday, April 18 2008 @ 08:45 PM EDT (#182945) #
I hope they leave Frasor in for another 2 innings.
scottt - Friday, April 18 2008 @ 08:53 PM EDT (#182946) #
I hope Frasor picks the win.
Chuck - Friday, April 18 2008 @ 09:05 PM EDT (#182947) #
Back to the dog house. Woof. Woof.
scottt - Friday, April 18 2008 @ 09:22 PM EDT (#182948) #
Probably just bad karma for pulling Purcey before time.
Gerry - Friday, April 18 2008 @ 09:40 PM EDT (#182949) #

Who does Gibbons trust in his bullepn now?  Jesse Carlson.

Frasor, Accardo, Downs and Tallet have each struggled and Ryan is making his way back from his TJ surgery. 

If the Jays have many more games like this one, where the bullpen struggles and the offense sputters, and no sign of life, John Gibbons head will be on the block.  This team has not looked good for a week now.

Mike Green - Friday, April 18 2008 @ 10:30 PM EDT (#182950) #
Lind did not play for the second straight game in Syracuse.  Perhaps it's a minor injury.
Frank Markotich - Friday, April 18 2008 @ 10:51 PM EDT (#182951) #

I didn't catch the first AB of the bottom of the ninth, but evidently Barajas was left in to lead off against Todd Jones. Can someone please explain why? With four guys on the bench who are better bets to get on base?

Down by four in the ninth is a long shot, but shouldn't the manager, you know, be trying to win the game?

timpinder - Friday, April 18 2008 @ 10:52 PM EDT (#182952) #

I didn't get to see the game tonight.  I just checked the box scores and saw Purcey's line, but haven't been able to watch him throw yet.  I'm hoping I can get a scouting report here.  It looks like his command wasn't great, but aside from that, how did his stuff look?  What does he throw, what's ML ready and what needs improvement?

Thanks!

Four Seamer - Friday, April 18 2008 @ 11:11 PM EDT (#182954) #

If the Jays have many more games like this one, where the bullpen struggles and the offense sputters, and no sign of life, John Gibbons head will be on the block.  This team has not looked good for a week now.

No tears will be shed in this corner if by May 1st the fourth manager of the Ricciardi era is in place.  That would seem to imply, however, that more than the manager is to blame.  After all, to paraphrase the great Dennis Green, the Jays are who we thought they were.  Starting pitching aside, there simply isn't a lot of premium talent on this squad.

Once again, a team presented as a playoff contender has revealed itself, in short order, to be a mediocre and deeply flawed ballclub.  You can shuffle the deck chairs all you like, but at some point accountability has to be demanded of those at the higher end of the food chain.  I don't own the team, so it's not my position to call for this person or that person to be relieved of their duties, but the parallels between this team and the 1989 Jays don't exactly jump off the page. 

Gerry - Friday, April 18 2008 @ 11:18 PM EDT (#182955) #

Purcey has a hard (93-94 mph) fastball that he throws to the inside of the plate to righthanders.  Purcey doesn't appear to be able to throw the fastball to the outside corner to righties.  Purcey also showed a very good curveball that he was able to control better than his fastball.  Purcey appeared to throw just two pitches and if I had to guesstimate I would say that Purcey threw approx. 40% of his fastballs in the strike zone (excluding balls that the hitters swung at).  Because of his speed Purcey did have the hitters swinging and missing a lot at fastball strikes.

The most unfortunate thing is that Purcey appears to have made little progress in the last two years on his fastball command.  It could be that he was over-excited today and that impacted his fastball command but that could also be wishful thinking.

Magpie - Friday, April 18 2008 @ 11:40 PM EDT (#182956) #
It could be that he was over-excited today

That's what I thought. It looked like the adrenalin was surging, and he was trying to throw the ball right past the hitters. When his fastball hit 95, it missed. When it was 91-93, it had lots of life and natural motion and he had much better command of it.
brent - Saturday, April 19 2008 @ 03:38 AM EDT (#182959) #

Here are the WPA updates ( a * means a score over .300).

game 7- heroes Thomas (3), Hill (2), Wells (3)   Letdowns Burnett *, Accardo, Tallet, Stairs (2)

game 8- heroes Downs (2)      Letdowns Accardo (2) *, Rios (2), Overbay (3)

game 9- heroes Tallet (3), Marcum, Zaun (2)     Letdowns Hill (3) *, Eckstein (3) *, League, Stairs (3)

game 10- heroes Overbay (2), Wells (4)         Letdowns Scutaro, Stairs (4)

game 11- heroes Halladay *, Hill (3)              Letdowns Wells (3), Overbay (4)

game 12- heroes Ryan, Carlson, Barajas       Letdowns Burnett (2), Rios (3), Eckstein (4)

game 13- heroes Rios (4), Wells (5)               Letdowns Stewart, Zaun (2), Thomas (3)

game 14- Hill (4), Marcum (2), Eckstein (3)         Letdown Zaun (3)

game 15 (14 innings)- Carlson (2) *, Scutaro, Ryan (2)            Letdowns Burnett (3) *2, Hill (4), Barajas (3), Wolfe (placed on DL), Thomas (4), Wells (4), Litsch

game 16- heroes Rios (5), Eckstein (4), Halladay (2)             Letdowns Thomas (5), Stairs (5), Hill (5)

game 17- heroes Stewart, Barajas (2), Purcey                     Letdowns Accardo (3) *2, Downs (2), Wells (5)

timpinder - Saturday, April 19 2008 @ 07:59 AM EDT (#182960) #
Thanks Gerry. 
Rob - Sunday, April 20 2008 @ 09:42 AM EDT (#183028) #
Joel Zumaya, the 100 mph man, strained his wrist playing guitar hero. Seriously.

Seriously, not. The Guitar Hero story is over a year old. Zumaya injured his shoulder, not his wrist, while moving boxes during the California wildfires.
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