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The Blue Jays made a series of roster moves Friday.  First, the club lost catcher Brian Jeroloman on waivers to Pittsburgh and also lost recent waiver claim, right-hander Cole Kimball, back to his original club - the Washington Nationals.  Second, the team picked up right-hander Drew Carpenter on waivers from San Diego. Third, the team added catcher Travis d'Arnaud, first baseman Mike McDade, righty Nestor Molina and lefty Evan Crawford to the 40-man roster.

Blue Jays mascot Ace wears the team's new uniform and ball cap.  He may have also been bidding adieu to catcher Brian Jeroloman, claimed on waivers by Pittsburgh Friday.





Brian Jeroloman in the New Hampshire Fisher Cats bullpen.  Note the number Jeroloman was wearing on his Jays batting helmet behind his catcher's mask - the now retired #12 of Roberto Alomar.

Brian Jeroloman, wearing Duane Ward's #31, stands on the third base line during a ceremony to honour the victims of 9-11 at the Dome.  That was as close as he would get between the lines as he never played a single game for the Jays in 2011.

Brian Jeroloman was drafted by the Blue Jays in round six of the 2006 amateur draft out of the University of Florida.  He was considered to be among the best defensive catchers available in the draft.  The Suffern, New York native made his pro debut with Auburn in 2006 and hit just .241 with no home runs but posted a solid on-base percentage of .361.  The left-handed hitting Jeroloman continued to display a discerning eye at the dish in 2007 with Dunedin by drawing a whopping 85 walks and reaching base to the tune of .421.  He hit his first three home runs and upped his batting average to .259.  For those of you who are somewhat familiar with my minor league updates, I was fascinated with Jeroloman's ability to draw ball four, coming up with the acronym BJWM (walk meter) and later BJBBM (bases on balls meter) to keep track of his number of walks. 

Jeroloman continued his climb up the minor league ladder in 2008 by splitting time with Double-A New Hampshire and Triple-A Syracuse.  He batted .270 and had an OBP four points shy of .400 with the Fisher Cats and that earned him a late look with the Chiefs, where he hit .200 but his OBP was 102 points higher in 25 contests.  Unfortunately, Jeroloman took a step back with the Fisher Cats in 2009 with a .217 batting average but he still kept his OBP 100 points greater than his BA thanks to a .330 mark.  In 2010, he had a third tour of duty with New Hampshire but upped his BA and OBP to .269 and .421 before leaving for Las Vegas, where he batted .316 in eight games with the 51s.  In 2011, Jeroloman was back in Sin City where he hit just .240 but his OBP was 95 points higher.  He finally got the call to the bigs in late August but never had an at-bat or entered a game defensively.  The National Post's John Lott wondered why Jeroloman remained nailed to the bench.  Our own Gerry was watching "America's Most Wanted" to see if Jeroloman would appear and his lack of playing time led to a spirited debate among Bauxite Nation.  According to J.P. Arencibia's Twitter account (@jparencibia9), Jeroloman was apparently hurt - something Jeroloman did not mention in the National Post story.  It turned out to be a jammed right wrist.

Now I end this piece with a song for Jeroloman, sung to the tune of Billy Joel's "Piano Man", as I wonder what might have been had he stayed at Baseball North...


Hit us a ball, you're Jeroloman!
Hit a ball long tonight !
Well we're all in the mood for a victory
to help put the Blue Jays in flight!

Fade song here!  All the best to Brian Jeroloman, who could be teaming up with former Jay Rod Barajas as the catching tandem with the Pirates in 2012. 
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whiterasta80 - Saturday, November 19 2011 @ 10:23 AM EST (#246965) #

Pittsburgh sure loves our catching scraps don't they?  Diaz, Barajas, Jeroloman, am I missing anyone?

Decent backup type, not someone you go out of your way to save a roster spot for, but he'll probably have some sort of an MLB career.

bpoz - Saturday, November 19 2011 @ 11:02 AM EST (#246966) #
I thought Jeroloman could have been the backup catcher because he can be sent up and down very easily. Other than Tallet & T Miller AA seems to treat ML veterans in a very kind hearted way ie patient, so the new backup may stay & play even if d'Arnaud shows that he is ready for promotion. Also he has caught a lot of pitchers on the ML team and pitchers close to promotion in AAA and maybe AA. He may have caught Hutchison or Molina in Spring Training as well. So very familiar.

A backup catcher plays 10-12 of 30 games per month. That is a lot of ABs for a weak bat,IMO especially if contending is being considered. d'Arnaud & Yan Gomes probably need more ABs in AAA than catching alone can provide.
I liked JPA's power numbers, if he can get more ABs while playing a little at another position then he will not be as beat up. That may improve his hitting so that he may even be considered for a better spot in the lineup when he is not catching. AA does like to see versatility.
If JPA gets hurt before d'Arnaud is ready 300+ ABs at AAA, then the backup become a key player. Some teams will over pay in that situation but would AA.


Thomas - Saturday, November 19 2011 @ 11:26 AM EST (#246968) #
Jeroloman deserved better (i.e. a major league start), but we've had that debate before on here. I hope he gets a chance to at least realize that with the Pirates. I trust the front office's analysis of his skill, but I am surprised they didn't deem him of more worthy of a 40-man roster spot than someone like Jesse Chavez, particularly without a backup catcher signed.
ayjackson - Saturday, November 19 2011 @ 11:57 AM EST (#246970) #
I always felt Jeroloman was a `student of the game` type.  He succeeded because he learned how to, not because of his natural ability.  I think he`ll succeed, but it`ll continue to be a slow process.  A good year in AAA this year, followed by a laboured adjustment to MLB the years following.  Good luck to him.
Mike Green - Saturday, November 19 2011 @ 12:37 PM EST (#246971) #
A Billy Joel tune is perfectly appropriate.  Jeroloman hails from Suffern, New York about 1 hour outside the Big Apple.  I wonder if he grew up a Yankee or Met fan. Catchers have a different development path, and so Jeroloman might yet have a career in front of him.

bball12 - Saturday, November 19 2011 @ 03:22 PM EST (#246973) #
Best wishes to Brian - a good guy.

Not getting into 1 inning when the team was out of it  - and we had players on the field that didnt even care - was one of many bizarre AA//Blue Jays decisions this past year.

He'll be alot better off somewhere else.





92-93 - Saturday, November 19 2011 @ 03:40 PM EST (#246974) #
I see we're being censored now. I guess only the official writers are allowed to personally attack others around here.
smcs - Saturday, November 19 2011 @ 04:12 PM EST (#246975) #
and we had players on the field that didnt even care

Uhh...what?
sweat - Saturday, November 19 2011 @ 04:13 PM EST (#246976) #
I think Wilner or some other Jays writer said he was injured.  A wrist issue.
TJ Caino - Saturday, November 19 2011 @ 04:16 PM EST (#246977) #
Regarding the new CBA (per MLBTR, VIA Rosenthal):

Effective this off-season, teams that sign Type A releivers and certain other Type A free agents will not forfeit picks. But the teams that loose them will still get picks.

It will be interesting to see what players are impacted. I believe this is the list of current Type A free agent relievers:
  • Ryan Madson, Phillies
  • Heath Bell, Padres
  • Matt Capps, Twins
  • Darren Oliver, Rangers
  • Francisco Rodriguez, Brewers
  • Octavio Dotel, Cardinals
  • Takashi Saito, Brewers
  • Francisco Cordero, Reds

Personally, I have always liked Saito. He's old and would not demad a long term commitment. (Might help Darvish feel more at home as well...)
Glevin - Saturday, November 19 2011 @ 05:04 PM EST (#246978) #
"Not getting into 1 inning when the team was out of it - and we had players on the field that didnt even care - was one of many bizarre AA//Blue Jays decisions this past year."

How is that bizzare? Jerloman is someone who has almost no chance of developing into a decent major leaguer. He had a .631 OPS as a 26-year-old in Las Vegas. His only good offensive season in the minors was last year when he was 25 in AA. He has no power, strikes out a lot, and doesn't make contact. If another team wants him as a defensive backup catcher, fine.
sam - Saturday, November 19 2011 @ 05:18 PM EST (#246980) #
Ruben Amaro probably has some egg on his face right now.
Mick Doherty - Saturday, November 19 2011 @ 06:03 PM EST (#246981) #

Jeroloman hails from Suffern, New York about 1 hour outside the Big Apple

Okay, but the Piano Man actually calls home Cold Spring Harbor, which is quite a bit further away from The City than that!

bpoz - Saturday, November 19 2011 @ 06:30 PM EST (#246984) #
I am with bball12 on this, because I am soft hearted and a little time on the field would have been a high for any player.
But he did get to the major Leagues, so that is a big accomplishment. He still has to taste the Cherry on top.

I hope he & Mastro got to keep their jerseys because right now they have small but significant personal accomplishments.

So with a little wine & beer as incentive, does anyone know the rules for Mastro & Jeroloman getting a WS ring if this were to happen and the Jays won the WS, based on them not playing on the playoff roster but having a small contribution.
TamRa - Saturday, November 19 2011 @ 07:32 PM EST (#246986) #
"Jeroloman deserved better (i.e. a major league start), but we've had that debate before on here."

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"I think Wilner or some other Jays writer said he was injured. A wrist issue."

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Yes.
and that per JP Arencibia.

TamRa - Saturday, November 19 2011 @ 07:37 PM EST (#246987) #
"(Might help Darvish feel more at home as well...)"

One of the big national reporters said in an interview (can't remember with whom or what...want to say it was Morosi) that Japanese society is very rigidly hierarchical and that having another Japanese player that was senior to him might actually work AGAINST Darvish's comfort level because he'd feel compelled to defer to the older guy even though he was a lesser player - to not risk upstaging his senior.

the conversation was in the context of Texas having a couple of Japanese relievers and the suggestion that another team, like the Jays, might benefit by signing someone like Matsui or Saito

the reporter thought that was exactly the opposite of the right idea.
Dewey - Saturday, November 19 2011 @ 08:20 PM EST (#246988) #
Been happening for quite a while.  It doesn't have to be a 'personal attack'.  Quietly, and never with an explanation, even back-channel.  I don’t like it either.  The censors are often ridiculously over-zealous in what they deem to be ‘inflammatory’.  Sometimes a comment is ‘unfeatured’; sometimes it just disappears.  We’ll see what happens with this one.   Reminds me of the Harper government’s wariness of open debate. 
Jonny German - Saturday, November 19 2011 @ 10:10 PM EST (#246989) #
I was censored back in February for questioning the aesthetic choice of electric blue in the site banner. I wasn't as polite as I could have been about it. But another poster was censored at the same time and he was perfectly polite and put forward a helpful suggestion. I emailed the roster to bring it to their attention as I assumed that the person who did the censoring acted alone.

A roster member confirmed that the censor acted alone.

The censor confirmed his identity by responding with "Here's a quarter, call someone who cares". Literally, that's what he said.

Disappointed to hear he's back at it. Will be interesting to see if this post lasts more than a few minutes.
ANationalAcrobat - Saturday, November 19 2011 @ 10:27 PM EST (#246990) #
I've been lurking for a long time and one of the things that discouraged me from posting was an occasional run-in with censorship.
The_Game - Sunday, November 20 2011 @ 05:24 AM EST (#246992) #
Censored, huh? I guess I don't post enough inflammatory things to notice.

You don't come around the game chats anymore, ANA. Your departure brought our regular group down from 3 to 2, with only the occasional stop-in from others.
Mike Green - Sunday, November 20 2011 @ 09:43 AM EST (#246993) #
I don't know what this is all about.  I thought this was like a "Gone But Not Forgotten" thread.
TJ Caino - Sunday, November 20 2011 @ 09:50 AM EST (#246994) #
I thought this was like a "Gone But Not Forgotten" thread.

Their posts: gone but not forgotten.
dawgatc - Sunday, November 20 2011 @ 09:54 AM EST (#246995) #
Its possible that the Jays let Jeroloman go on purpose.With Gomes;Danaud and Jimenez all at double or triple A ;there would no at bats for Jeroloman and the team prefers a pitcher friendly veteran backup.Let him go on waivers and find someone to give him a shot.Not necessarily a choice between Chavez and Jeroloman.
Geoff - Sunday, November 20 2011 @ 10:55 AM EST (#246996) #
Is there no talk here yet of the proposed changes to draft compensation? Here's what I've seen:
Teams will have to determine whether they make a qualifying offer for a free agent at a one-year guaranteed salary based on a formula. That number is likely to be upwards of $12 million, making it highly doubtful teams would use it on players who aren't superstars. If the player rejects the offer and signs with another team, the signing team loses its spot in the first round of the amateur draft and moves to the end. Teams will no longer lose a pick for signing a premium free agent.
Seems like a rotten system and I hope there are more details to it. There is no mention of compensation for the team losing a player, from what I can tell. There is only a deterrent for teams who want to sign away superstar players (or guys who for whatever reason can demand more than the qualifying $12-million threshold) and the deterrent is greatest only for those teams who had the worst records the year before.

What I take away is that if you are the Baltimore Orioles, you would stand to lose a lot more by signing Albert Pujols than the Yankees or Tigers would stand to lose because your fall down the draft chart is much greater. I've been waiting for more info to come out about this but haven't seen anything on proposed changes to draft compensation. The new system looks ridiculous and today Olney has a column that I believe references this issue (maybe not) in writing that :
There are team executives who are furious with the details in the new labor agreement, and believe that Major League Baseball sold out the small-market and mid-market teams in the way the new draft structure works. "All this does is kick the can down the road," said one GM. "It doesn't solve problems, and it makes some problems worse."
But that is all he says about it and I'm hoping to hear more. Anybody have something more about what the new CBA will bring?
Geoff - Sunday, November 20 2011 @ 10:57 AM EST (#246997) #
oops, meant to put this in the thread about the new wild card spot.  My humble apologies for the mistake.

ayjackson - Sunday, November 20 2011 @ 11:10 AM EST (#246999) #
The Yankees must be driving the CBA process.  The only way to gain a competitive advantage is by outspending on payroll.
ayjackson - Sunday, November 20 2011 @ 11:11 AM EST (#247000) #

oops, meant to put this in the thread about the new wild card spot

Doh!

bball12 - Sunday, November 20 2011 @ 06:28 PM EST (#247010) #
bpoz - neither of those guys contributed anything simply because neither played.

It certainly would diminish the meaning of a ring if the ring was given to anyone who did nothing.

Certainly would have been a nice question to have to answer though.

On a brighter note - what is encouraging to me - even prior to moves we all know will be coming - is that the Blue Jays are in a heck of a better position now than they were at the beginning of this past season.

Regardless of the moves forthcoming - AA must remember one thing.

No Riveras - No Pattersons - No Wises.
If he only does that and nothing else - we will still be significantly better off as an organization.

As for the uniforms - I couldnt care less - it isnt a fashion show - its baseball.
As long as they win - I couldnt car what they wore.


bpoz - Sunday, November 20 2011 @ 07:40 PM EST (#247013) #
bball 12, I agree it would be nice to not have Patterson, Wise & Rivera types playing a lot this season.

I think Teahen & R Davis as bench players may not be good enough. Davis has speed, so he can pinch run anytime and contribute. For a 15 day DL stint, this may be odd but I would seriously consider someone from the farm depending on who got hurt.

I also like 2 good catchers, that way when the backup is playing 33-40% of the time we don't have that weak spot. But catching is more that just offense. Boarders & Myers seemed great to me, but I guess the superior blocking of Boarders was too much to give up for equal sharing.

smcs - Monday, November 21 2011 @ 03:27 AM EST (#247016) #
bball 12, I agree it would be nice to not have Patterson, Wise & Rivera types playing a lot this season.

Wise started 7 games for the Jays, and only because Rasmus and Davis got hurt. Patterson started because Davis got hurt, and then Bautista got hurt, and then Snider and Lind got hurt at the same time. By the time Lind came back, Patterson had a .780 OPS, so he kept on playing. The Jays got about 2 solid months out of Corey Patterson and then about a month and a half of poor hitting, poor fielding and poor decisions. Rivera had just a terrible time the first two weeks of the season, and his triple slash stats never recovered. But then he started 39 games between DH, LF, RF and 1B for various reasons (he got back into the lineup because he was a better offensive player than John McDonald and Edwin Encarnacion (horrid first 2 months) after Hill got injured, then Encarnacion got hurt, Snider went down and Lind got hurt) and OPS'ed .746 over that period. Lind came back on June 5, Rivera stuck around for another month, starting back-to-back games two times, and was released July 3rd.

So take away two things: these guys weren't as bad as you remember them and they were mostly pressed into duty because of injuries. The easiest way of avoiding these types of players is to hope that major injuries don't befall your starting CF, LF, 2B and 1B and that Edwin Encarnacion doesn't need to be replaced because he can't hit.
Kelekin - Monday, November 21 2011 @ 04:20 AM EST (#247018) #
Unlike last year, I don't think there is anyone else worth putting on the 40-man for protection.  Justin Jackson would have been worth it if he had done better at AA, but I don't see him getting scooped up with how it went.  Ahrens had a very boring, consistent year.  Tolisano was downgraded.  Matt Wright is the only eligible name of interest to me, and I don't see him getting plucked up (but definitely a sleeper for this year).

Not sure what is going on with all the censorship as a lot of that conversation appears to have been removed, but I think excess censorship on a site like this is a horrible idea.

John Northey - Monday, November 21 2011 @ 09:24 AM EST (#247020) #
IIRC for rings the general rule of thumb is to give them to anyone who was on the 25 man roster or who was called up in September along with all coaches, managers (sometimes one was fired part-way through the season), and often front office personnel. I've heard of minor league managers getting them too as a reward for helping develop the players who lead the team to a win (even though some would've never seen a single ML'er outside of spring training).

Being inclusive rather than exclusive is viewed as a good thing. The players main goal is to be on the field or in the dugout for the WS winning moment, the ring is more a bonus and a memory.
Thomas - Monday, November 21 2011 @ 09:26 AM EST (#247021) #
In some tragic news, Reuters is reporting that Seattle Mariners player Greg Halman was fatally stabbed this morning in Rotterdam. Halman made his major league debut this year. His brother has currently been arrested in connection with Halman's death.
Glevin - Monday, November 21 2011 @ 04:29 PM EST (#247041) #
Well, Pirates just designated Jeroloman for assignment so he's available if someone else wants him.
Greg - Monday, November 21 2011 @ 07:17 PM EST (#247051) #

"You don't come around the game chats anymore, ANA. Your departure brought our regular group down from 3 to 2, with only the occasional stop-in from others."

I feel I should apologize for dropping out as well.  Once Boston signed GJOTA my heart just wasn't in it anymore.
That and moving a few time zones away.

bball12 - Monday, November 21 2011 @ 08:59 PM EST (#247055) #
smcs - those 2 guys have always been as bad as I remember.

Th excuses get old.

Sometimes - its better to just admit ones mistakes - take the hit - and improve upon it.

vw_fan17 - Monday, November 21 2011 @ 09:11 PM EST (#247057) #
Do the chats still work? Last time I tried (near the end of the 2011 season), it just hung forever..

Of course, being in the PST, it's not like I ever actually get to watch the game and chat.. I usually watch the game the next morning..

bpoz - Tuesday, November 22 2011 @ 09:57 AM EST (#247079) #
smcs, that is good research into the injuries.

We all know, like a guarantee that injuries will happen. Also to me it seems that some poor performance is almost becoming a guarantee. ie Hill & Lind in 2010, Wells & Rios in 2009 and Hill & Snider in 2011. I can probably think of a couple of more bad thinks to happen, but let me mention only one. We have to play NYY,Boston & TB 18 times each.

I am not sure but I think our replacement guys if called upon have to produce more than NYY & Boston's replacement guys because those 2 teams have regulars that can cover more production short fall from their replacement guys. OK, I don't think I explained this very well. I mean the healthy star players of NYY & Boston will produce a lot, because they are stars, so the replacement can do quite little and the team gets away with it. I also think some our replacements did quite well, that is close to their capabilities or even better in some instances. I say that because I think a lot of them are boarder line ML players whose skills while useful I believe top out as mainly sort of weak.
Mick Doherty - Tuesday, November 22 2011 @ 11:38 AM EST (#247086) #
Jeroloman was designated for assignment this morning ...back to TO?
Gerry - Tuesday, November 22 2011 @ 11:59 AM EST (#247090) #
Adam Loewen has signed with the Mets.  That is probably good for him, the Mets could have a job open in the majors for Loewen.
ogator - Tuesday, November 22 2011 @ 12:31 PM EST (#247092) #
  My initial thought was that Jeroloman might come back to Toronto but why would a young catcher want to voluntarily put himself into that glut?  There must be some organization that wants a catch and throw guy with a chance to catch in the bigs.  Toronto does not seem like a good place for a young up and coming catcher unless he wants to crawl over a few guys to get to the top.
Gerry - Tuesday, November 22 2011 @ 12:50 PM EST (#247093) #

Jeroloman is not a free agent and I don't think he has enough time in to elect free agency as 6 year players can do.  Therefore the fate that awaits him is that either another team claims him for their 40 man roster or he passes through waivers and is assigned to the Pirates AAA team.

The Blue Jays could claim him and then immediately designate him, as they did with Kimball last week, and hope no other team claims him.  But Travis d'Arnaud will get most of the playing time next season in AAA so the Jays might not have a spot for him.

PeteMoss - Wednesday, November 23 2011 @ 04:09 PM EST (#247215) #
And the Jays have claimed him back as per MLBTR.
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