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Detroit Tigers (and Toledo Mud Hens) hurler Fernando Rodney is scheduled to have season-ending elbow surgery tomorrow. What does that have to do with anything on Da Box? Well ... nothing, really. Except ... that's right, kids, it's time for another exciting installment of Baseball's Hall of Names! Woohoo!

It's simple, really ... what's the best possible team of players who had two first names? No, not of the John Henry Johnson ilk. Rather, those players like Frank Thomas -- and Fernando Rodney -- whose last name is also a first name.

Now, you Brooks Kieschnick fans shouldn't get caught up in the fact that your boy's first name is a common last name; he obviously doesn't qualify. But former Met uber-prospect Hubie Brooks? Sure, welcome aboard!

This Hall of Names installment is a little different from past editions, as your Friendly Neighborhood Box is not providing a lineup to comment on, but rather is asking ... who should be on this team? Just looking at Da Box Roster -- come to think of it, "Joe Drew" and "Jonny Morton" should probably be the official Box Co-Sponsors of this team -- provides plenty of fodder. So, who's who in the first-names-twice lineup?

Hank Aaron?
Tommy John?
Gene Michael?
Jeff Kent?
Brian Jordan?
George Scott?
Roger Craig?
Tony Gwynn? (Or is that a reach, Gwyn?)

And just to keep it interesting, let's not stack the team into an "All-Thomas" edition or anything like it ... once a last name is used, it's out of play. Be sure to provide the position, and if the player is obscure, some key stats or a link to the appropriate page.

The only current Jay who seems to qualify is Howie Clark. Who else?
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_Mick - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 10:28 AM EDT (#32541) #
Oh, and one more thing ... let's not get caught up in gender-bias. We don't have a catcher yet, so why not Bruce Kimm?
_Moffatt - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 10:28 AM EDT (#32542) #
If you allow stretches on spelling, I've got the first female name to add to your list:

Clay Carroll
_Moffatt - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 10:28 AM EDT (#32543) #
Damn! Beaten by a millisecond!
_Moffatt - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 10:30 AM EDT (#32544) #
Your list needs more Mikes. How about Mike Cameron?
_The Original Ry - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 10:31 AM EDT (#32545) #
Nolan Ryan. What a great name.
Mike Green - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 10:38 AM EDT (#32546) #
Amos Otis. Thomas John. Christoper James. Mike Christopher.
_Ken Crowell - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 10:47 AM EDT (#32547) #
Carroll's not a girl's name, Meathead! (COMN)
_Kieran - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 10:49 AM EDT (#32548) #
Oddly enough, when I was younger, I played baseball against a kid named Ryan Nolan. He was, not surprisingly, a pitcher.
_Mick - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 10:49 AM EDT (#32549) #
If we allow Clay Carroll, then I guess that brings Ken Clay into the mix.
_Mick - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 10:50 AM EDT (#32550) #
And where there's Nolan Ryan, there's Gary Nolan ...
Joe - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 10:55 AM EDT (#32551) #
I'd just like to mention that that bastard Drew Carey destroyed my last name forever. Nobody ever had trouble with it until his damned show came out. Now I'm forever saying "Hi, I'm Joe Drew" and having people respond "Oh, hi Drew."
_Christopher - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 11:01 AM EDT (#32552) #
Steve Carleton. Lou Brock.
_Christopher - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 11:03 AM EDT (#32553) #
Now I'm forever saying "Hi, I'm Joe Drew" and having people respond "Oh, hi Drew."

Really? That doesn't seem so complicated.
Mike D - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 11:07 AM EDT (#32554) #
If we have no gender bias, I think I remember some guy named Babe Ruth.
_Moffatt - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 11:09 AM EDT (#32555) #
Wow. You must be older than Coach! :)
_Christopher - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 11:13 AM EDT (#32556) #
Gaylord Perry?
_Tom - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 11:55 AM EDT (#32557) #
The Sox nominate:

Brad Thomas
Johnny Damon
Pokey Reese (might be a stretch with the -ece, -ese, but then there's Reese Gaines)
Trot Nixon (Only because Nixon seems to be a popular first name among students at my alma mater; there were 5 kids named Nixon.)

Wasn't there an old adage that went "Never trust a man who has a first name for his last name?" Or am I really losing it?
Mike Green - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 12:08 PM EDT (#32558) #
Tom, Nixon's a popular first name at your alma mater? Yikes, you guys are in worse shape than I thought.
_Tom - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 12:37 PM EDT (#32559) #
In my school's defense, three were Cape Verdean students, while the other two were students whose parents were 1st generation from the Caribbean.
_Jabonoso - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 12:38 PM EDT (#32560) #
Benito Santiago, Danny Bautista...
_Mick - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 01:03 PM EDT (#32561) #
I really didn't think it would take this long for someone to mention Junior Felix. Okay, so anyway, here's a rough cut at a first-draft lineup, with I'm sure many more, ah, "corrections" to come. Do Bautista and Santiago really qualify as first names, or is that more along the lines of former UNLV guard Anderson Hunt?

Manager: Gene Michael
C Bruce Kimm
1B Frank Thomas
2B Jeff Kent
SS Pokey Reese
3B Hubie Brooks
RF Hank Aaron
CF Amos Otis/Mike Cameron/Johnny Damon
LF Babe Ruth
DH Tony Gwynn

SP Nolan Ryan
SP Tommy John
SP Steve Carlton
SP Gaylord Perry
SP Gary Nolan
RP Clay Carroll
RP Ken Clay
RP Mike Christopher

Brian Jordan
George Scott
Lou Brock
Chris James

Wow, HOFer Lou Brock doesn't even break into the starting lineup, but so far Bruce Kimm is an everyday player.

The bullpen is weak so far -- but so what? Look at that starting rotation ... even with Gary Nolan's 110-win career cut way short by injury, the five starters have 1,365 combined career victories, or 273 per. Besides, there's a fair lefty who can appear in a pinch who led the '18 Red Sox to a World Series.

The bench is weak, and we could use upgrades on the left side of the infield and behind the plate. And we need to pick a CF from three All-Star canddidates.

Of course, other candidates around the horn could appear ...

And wait a minute. Say good bye to Gary Nolan. And say hello to Grover Cleveland Alexander, bumping that five-man rotation's career win total to 1,628 -- 325 per. That's, ah, pretty good ...
_Moffatt - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 01:10 PM EDT (#32562) #

Well, my boss has a son named Carter. Can we allow Gary Carter then?
_Christopher - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 01:17 PM EDT (#32563) #
I think George Brett is an upgrade over Hubie Brooks at third.
_coliver - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 01:17 PM EDT (#32564) #
How about our own Jim Clancy?

Chief Wiggum's first name is Clancy, you know...
_coliver - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 01:18 PM EDT (#32565) #
Manny Lee
_coliver - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 01:19 PM EDT (#32566) #
If we want to include sportswriters who covered the Jays:
Alison Gordon.
_Christopher - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 01:21 PM EDT (#32567) #
Eddie Murray.
_coliver - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 01:23 PM EDT (#32568) #
There has to be some Ivy League preppies out there named "Griff", so I will add Alfredo Griffin.
_coliver - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 01:24 PM EDT (#32569) #
Another female name--shorted from many a soap opera star:
Gord Ash
_Rodney - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 01:25 PM EDT (#32570) #
I was just passing by and thought I would give a few, although not all are great players,

Woody Williams
Mitch Williams
Dave Parker
Bo Jackson(?)
I read the whole list thinking of George Brett then the last guy to post put it up,
Manny Lee
Scott Cassidy (my daughters name is Cassidy)

Thats all I can think of right now.
_The Original Ry - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 01:26 PM EDT (#32571) #
If you want a better catcher than Kimm, try Al Todd.
_coliver - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 01:26 PM EDT (#32572) #
We will take Jackson!
_Rodney - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 01:26 PM EDT (#32573) #
Dwight Evans
_coliver - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 01:27 PM EDT (#32574) #
Jackson? Todd? Remember Jackson Todd? This is getting creepy.
_Rodney - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 01:27 PM EDT (#32575) #
Roger Maris (Niles wife on Frasier)
_Moffatt - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 01:28 PM EDT (#32576) #
Token Negro Leaguer: Pop Lloyd
_Christopher - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 01:29 PM EDT (#32577) #
The bullpen is weak so far

How about Jeff Nelson?
_Rodney - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 01:30 PM EDT (#32578) #
Andre Dawson (Dawsons Creek)
_Harry Heatherin - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 01:33 PM EDT (#32579) #
Alfredo Griffin works - there was an actor/director you may remember, Griffin Dunne. How about Tom Wilson behind the plate - Wilson works - Wilson Alvarez?
_Brian J - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 01:36 PM EDT (#32580) #
Would Duane Ward count? (Ward Cleaver?)
_Harry Heatherin - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 01:40 PM EDT (#32581) #
What about Leroy Face? Remember Face from the A-Team?
_Harry Heatherin - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 01:46 PM EDT (#32582) #
Catfish Hunter (Hunter S. Thompson, someone famous named their daughter Hunter, I forget)

How about Elston Howard for a half-decent catcher?
robertdudek - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 01:58 PM EDT (#32583) #
And there's no room for Jack Morris in the starting rotation either.
_Jordan - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 02:03 PM EDT (#32584) #
Carl Yastrzemski.
_Jordan - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 02:03 PM EDT (#32585) #
Just checking to see if you're paying attention....
_Harry Heatherin - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 02:05 PM EDT (#32586) #
I didn't hear you - I'm upstairs at Eric's.
Mike Green - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 02:17 PM EDT (#32587) #
Hey, if there's Robinson Diaz, then Frank Robinson and Jackie Robinson are in play. Frank'd be an upgrade on Tony Gwynn for DH.
_Moffatt - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 02:19 PM EDT (#32588) #
I think there should be a rule that the name is something you associate as a first name, not a last name.

Because I'm sure there is someone in the world who has the first name Bonds or Griffey or Williams, etc. Heck, I know someone who has the first name "Standing".
Dave Till - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 02:21 PM EDT (#32589) #
You can add everybody named "Davis" to the list, because of Davis Love III (the golfer). At the very least, this means that Jody Davis punts Bruce Kimm out of the starting catcher's job.
_Christopher - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 02:21 PM EDT (#32590) #
What about Leroy Face? Remember Face from the A-Team?

Face's real name on the show was Lt. Templeton Peck. Face was a nickname. Allowing nicknames would really blow this thing wide open.
_Harry Heatherin - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 02:22 PM EDT (#32591) #
Hello?? ELSTON HOWARD? I think he starts over Bruce Kimm
_Randy Winter - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 02:23 PM EDT (#32592) #
Have I missed Dizzy Dean?
_Steve Z - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 02:27 PM EDT (#32593) #
"what's the best possible team of players who had two first names?"

Am I missing something?! To me, "two first names" implies "two relatively common first names." Take out Pokey Reese, unless he changes his name back to Calvin, please! Catfish Hunter... not allowed, unless we're talking about Jim Hunter! [/rant]
_Randy Winter - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 02:29 PM EDT (#32594) #
I guess you won't accept Satchel Paige, in that case.
Dave Till - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 02:33 PM EDT (#32595) #
Has anyone mentioned Tom Gordon yet? I think he gets a bullpen spot.

If you want gamblers and other assorted lowlifes hanging around, you can add Hal Chase to the team (I know at least one person whose first name is "Chase").

And Joe Morgan can take the 2B job away from Jeff Kent (thanks to Morgan Ensberg, not to mention Morgan Fairchild).
_Tenobia - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 02:50 PM EDT (#32596) #
If you want gamblers and other assorted lowlifes hanging around, you can add Hal Chase to the team (I know at least one person whose first name is "Chase").

And Pete Rose.
_Jabonoso - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 03:14 PM EDT (#32597) #
Santiago is primarily a first name in catholic ranks ( apostle Santiago ), Bautista is the same.
You can add Julio Franco...
PS A some humor, in Cuba after the Revolution it was not "politically correct" to use catholic first names, they used a lot of russian heroes first names ( Vladimir, etc ) but also used just whatever came to them like ships names, sports teams names or just plainly fancy and ingenious letter arrengements...
Mike Green - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 03:45 PM EDT (#32598) #
Does J. R. Richard count? Gene Michael would be OK. Matt Clement..don't laugh, I've seen it. Paul Blair.

In the failed prodigy dept., how about David Clyde?
_Mick - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 03:49 PM EDT (#32599) #
Jabonoso, I did 12 years of Catholic school and four years after college working for the Diocese of Toledo (Ohio, not Spain) and I think "Santiago" is probably uncommon enough to not be in play. Maybe it's culturalist (is that a word?) but keep in mind, "Santiago" is also just a mashing together of two words, "San Diego." And no, that does not mean the entire historical Padres roster is eligible, Moffatt.

I knew a fella named "Saint Anthony" who went by "Saint." Apropos of nothing.

Anyway, executive decision, names like "Williams" that are plurals of common first names, are not eligible, in part because my brain will explode if I have to figure out Teddy Ballgame, the Babe and Hank in the same outfield when none can play center.

And per an earlier suggestion, let's stick to common "oh, that's a first name, I'll get confused" names (now known as "The Joe Drew Carey Effect" -- hey, has anyone mentioned Andy Carey?) for this roster. Apologies to fans of Robinson Checo, but Jackie, Frank and Brooks are no longer in play.

I sense waffling on Gary Carter; Elston Howard is looking more and more like this team's catcher.
Mike Green - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 04:00 PM EDT (#32600) #
Joe Gordon would make a nice backup for Joe Morgan.
_Jabonoso - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 04:06 PM EDT (#32601) #
Believe me Santiago is both a very common first name and surname in Spanish speaking countries. In mexico city directory there are about twelve pages of Santiagos and i can name of the of my head a dozen first name santiagos. Santiago Ramon y Cajal makes a click to you, he was a Nobel prize from Spain alooong time ago.
_Jabonoso - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 04:30 PM EDT (#32602) #
Well i guess you can use Roberto Clemente in your outfield and Julio Franco at SS.
_Moffatt - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 04:55 PM EDT (#32603) #
And no, that does not mean the entire historical Padres roster is eligible, Moffatt.

Why did you single me out for a likely candidate to suggest such a thing? It's like you know me or something. :)
_JohnnyS99 - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 04:58 PM EDT (#32604) #
John Franco
Mike Green - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 04:59 PM EDT (#32605) #
Jabonoso, I wondered about Clemente, but if Clement is a first name in English, I guess it should not surprise me.
_The Original Ry - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 05:10 PM EDT (#32606) #
What about players who have only one name, like Scott and Joyce?
_Wayne H - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 05:17 PM EDT (#32607) #
Figure out a place in the minors for P Clay Kirby and Roy Thomas, while James Rodney Richard should get bonus points.
_Leonard - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 05:32 PM EDT (#32608) #
Can't believe we haven't included all-time great
Grover Cleveland "Pete" Alexander (That makes 3 first names and a weird middle name) as a starter.

Would Walter Johnson count? If so, he's the #1 starter.

Bill Dickey would be the catcher, if we would all stop giggling about his name.

Still need a good shortstop, though.
_Leonard - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 05:36 PM EDT (#32609) #
And of course, since we're looking for relief, we have the delightfully named hall-of-famer Hoyt Wilhelm.

If you ever have twins, you could name one Hoyt and the other Wilhelm.
Don't think that it hasn't happened!
_Jabonoso - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 05:41 PM EDT (#32610) #
SS David Concepcion
Concepcion is a very common first name for women and are called Conchitas ( there could easily be 5 million Conchitas in Spain ).
_Stan - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 06:12 PM EDT (#32611) #
how about George Foster, Dick Allen
_Stan - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 06:16 PM EDT (#32612) #
Reggie Jackson?
_Stan - Thursday, April 29 2004 @ 09:19 PM EDT (#32613) #
Frank Howard
_Wayne H - Friday, April 30 2004 @ 03:17 AM EDT (#32614) #
Don't forget pitcher Waite Hoyt, another Hall of Famer.

Perhaps Paul Blair could play some defensive centre field.
_Stan - Friday, April 30 2004 @ 08:00 AM EDT (#32615) #
devon wilson for center field
_Mick - Friday, April 30 2004 @ 12:19 PM EDT (#32616) #
C Elston Howard
1B Eddie Murray
2B Jeff Kent
SS Manny Lee
3B George Brett
OF Hank Aaron
OF Brian Jordan
OF Gorman Thomas
DH George Scott
SP Nolan Ryan
SP Tommy John
SP Grover Cleveland "Pete" Alexander
SP Dizzy Dean
SP J.R. Richard
RP Tom "Flash" Gordon
RP Mike Christopher
RP Jackson Todd
RP Roy Thomas
_Mick - Friday, April 30 2004 @ 12:22 PM EDT (#32617) #
C Gary Carter
1B Dick Allen (spelling is uncommon, anyway)
2B Joe Morgan
SS Calvin "Pokey" Reese
3B Hubie Brooks
OF Reggie Jackson
OF Lou Brock
OF Andre Dawson
DH Dave Parker
SP Steve Carlton
SP Gaylord Perry
SP Jim "Catfish" Hunter
SP Jack Morris
SP Waite Hoyt
RP Hoyt Wilhelm
RP Clay Carroll
RP Jeff Nelson
RP Duane Ward
_Moffatt - Friday, April 30 2004 @ 12:23 PM EDT (#32618) #
Very nice. I still think Pop Lloyd should be a short. :)
_Moffatt - Friday, April 30 2004 @ 12:24 PM EDT (#32619) #
That is *at* short.
_Mick - Friday, April 30 2004 @ 12:24 PM EDT (#32620) #
C Bruce Kimm
1B Hal Chase
2B Marty Marion
SS Harold "Pee Wee" Reese
3B Pete Rose
LF Babe Ruth
CF Paul Blair
RF Roger Maris
DH Mike Cameron
SP Satchel Paige
RP Scott Cassidy
_Mick - Friday, April 30 2004 @ 12:24 PM EDT (#32621) #
These guys didn't quite make it or were bumped by others with the same surname (per rules discussed at the outset) ...

C Al Todd
C Dan Wilson
C Tom Wilson
1B Frank Howard
1B Frank Thomas I
1B Frank Howard II
2B Gene Michael
2B Joe Gordon
SS Alfredo Griffin
3B Andy Carey
OF Tony Gwynn
OF Chris Gwynn
OF Chris James
OF Amos Otis
OF Johnny Damon
OF Devon White
OF George Foster
OF Willie Wilson
OF Mookie Wilson
OF Hack Wilson
OF Johnny Frederick
OF Chad Curtis
SP Don Wilson
SP John Curtis
SP Jim Clancy
SP David Clyde
SP Matt Clement
SP Gary Nolan
SP Johnny Allen
SP Clay Kirby
RP Byung-Hyun Kim
RP Mike James
RP Kevin Frederick
RP Doug Henry
RP Ken Clay
_The Original Ry - Friday, April 30 2004 @ 01:04 PM EDT (#32622) #
Late arrival: Mark Grace deserves to be somewhere on the All-Female team.
_Mick - Friday, April 30 2004 @ 01:29 PM EDT (#32623) #
Yes, that's a good one. We could bump Paul Blair from the team, move Mike Cameron into CF and have Grace DH. Sure, he's a heckuva gloveman, but of the very few MLB 1B who were better than Grace ... Chase was one.

Nice little "Chase and Grace" pre-game show opportunity there, too.
_cade - Friday, April 30 2004 @ 02:03 PM EDT (#32624) #
Is it too late to nominate Fred Lynn? He could be on the men's or women's list. And he could easily replace Brian Jordan or Paul Blair.
Mike Green - Friday, April 30 2004 @ 03:53 PM EDT (#32625) #
Mick, Small quibbles about the women's team. Marty Marion had a better glove than Pee Wee Reese at short. Reese moves to second.
And, I'd take Grace over Chase in a heartbeat, for both on the field and off the field reasons.

Amos Otis a leftover? (sheds a tear).
_Mick - Friday, April 30 2004 @ 04:10 PM EDT (#32626) #
Mike, I went to look at the similarity scores for the two, and you know what? You're absolutely right.

Grace over Chase. In fact, Fred Lynn moves into CF with Mike Cameron sliding back to DH and Prince Hal The Gambler is bumped entirely out of the lineup.

While investigating those sim-scores, I discovered two for Grace who we really shouldn't have missed here ... Al Oliver and Mickey Vernon. Both not-quite-HOF solid All-Star performers. Just like Grace.
Mike Green - Friday, April 30 2004 @ 04:42 PM EDT (#32627) #
How could we at the Box have missed Mickey Vernon? Shocking, I say.
_Jabonoso - Friday, April 30 2004 @ 07:58 PM EDT (#32628) #
it is really a pitty mick's shortsightnees about latino entrees.
what is wrong with Roberto Clemente or David Concepcion or any Felix out there, even Benito Santiago...
well is your ball and you call your shots.
_Stan - Friday, April 30 2004 @ 08:27 PM EDT (#32629) #
Glenn "Rocky" Nelson
_Wayne H - Friday, April 30 2004 @ 08:34 PM EDT (#32630) #
George Kelly was a Hall of Fame outfielder, albeit a controversial Veterans Committee choice.

John Denny had a Cy Young in the National League.

Would the one time Jay Doyle Alexander qualify? Or perhaps Joe Carter?

On that note, we wouldn't want the weak OPS of Denny combine two names into one.
_Mick - Saturday, May 01 2004 @ 02:01 AM EDT (#32631) #
Jabonoso, I appreciate your feedback and yes, I opted to focus the results solely on primarily anglo names. Your earlier posts clearly demonstrated that I didn't know nearly enough about the multicultural possibilities, so I confined the results. Probably should have pointed that out.

That means Australia's Graeme Lloyd would've made a good candidate, but I fully admit that there are too many latino and eastern (Japanese, Taiwanese, Korean) naming conventions that I don't know enough about to treat with the detail they'd deserve. In fact, as you are no doubt aware, in many cultures, the concept of "last name" is simply different -- the family name precedes the individual's name in presentation, or the mother's maiden name is adopted as part of the package or some other difference.

If you'd like to put together a non-anglo version and post it here, that would be both appropriate and appreciated; or if you like, send it to me, and I'll post it to its own thread as a Pinch Hit.
robertdudek - Saturday, May 01 2004 @ 09:31 AM EDT (#32632) #
Cameron should not be on the all-female team, since it is a mostly male name.
Mike Green - Saturday, May 01 2004 @ 11:52 AM EDT (#32633) #
Mick, I know you'll think that spend hours poring over old baseball books, but this whole name thing was rattling around in my dreams. Hence, Laughing Larry Doyle, Billy Herman, Buddy Myer (nice Jewish name sometimes spelled Meyer) are three fine second basemen; the first two are in the HOF. Bill Terry is a HOF first baseman. Camilo Pascual was a fine starting pitcher of the 60s. Monte Irvin had half a HOF career with the Giants after the colour bar was broken, not to mention a great career in the Negro Leagues. We'll leave out Stan Hack, despite Hack Wilson. How about pitchers Waite Hoyt and Hoyt Wilhelm?

There were a few more names rattling around there, but I've forgotten them.
_Mick - Saturday, May 01 2004 @ 01:13 PM EDT (#32634) #
Well, Waite Hoyt Wilhelm (just to save space there) is already on board. And Robert, Cameron Diaz begs to differ. :-)

"Cameron" and "Drew" are both "both" names, but I figured, if it's a Charlie's Angel, we can safely go "female." Bill Terry would be another "both" ... good catch, that. Come to think of it, former Royals pitcher Rich Gale fits that bill (not "Bill") too.

And Mike, are you implying there's something wrong with burying oneself in old baseball books??
Mike Green - Saturday, May 01 2004 @ 02:43 PM EDT (#32635) #
There's absolutely nothing wrong with burying oneself in old baseball books, provided you come up for air once in awhile.
_Wayne H - Saturday, May 01 2004 @ 06:07 PM EDT (#32636) #
This game is addictive. I have started to think about names all of time. I think Bill "Spaceman" Lee. That leads to Manny Lee or Leron Lee. I think pitchers and that gives us Jim Perry and Gaylord Perry. Do we want to think of Gerald Perry or Roberto Kelly? Or Pat Kelly, or Tom Kelly for that matter. Justin Wayne uses a sound name, for sure.

If we consider that Miller Huggins lets us use Miller as a first name (reaching perhaps, but he was a Hall of Fame Yankees manager), that gives us dozens of Millers, but not Bill Mueller or Kevin Millar.

Of course for girls names, there was Lee May, and perhaps Lee Maye. Brad Penny would qualify though. Many women are named Tori or Torrey, but mercifully none spell their name, or heaven forbid, look like Joe Torre.
Mike Green - Sunday, May 02 2004 @ 09:37 PM EDT (#32637) #
OK, one very last before we put this thread to bed. I don't know how we forgot Eddie Murray. Classic reversible name- didn't I know a Murray Eddie in high school?, and a classic great ballplayer.
Mick Doherty - Thursday, December 21 2006 @ 10:02 PM EST (#161287) #
Sure, this thread has been inactive for almost two years, but I thought of it when I heard that Cecil Travis passed away today ... mostly a shortstop, a career .314 hitter and a classic Hall of Pretty Damn Good player. Hit .359 his final year before entering the service (1941) but never higher than .252 after returning in 1945.
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