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Let's look at it this way -- at this point, Josh Banks has nowhere to go but up for the New Hampshire Fisher Cats.

New Britain 13 New Hamphsire 1

94.5 -- is it the radio station that broadcasts Fisher Cat games? No, it's Josh's ERA. Banks was just hammered in his Double-A debut last night. Failing to get out of the first inning, he gave up 7 runs on 5 hits and 2 walks, striking out only one batter; fellow Dunedin graduate Andy Torres rubbed salt in the wound by allowing Banks' inherited runners to score. A disappointed Banks said afterwards, I was looking forward to this since I got up here, underlining the likelihood that this was simply a case of Opening Night jitters run amok. It should go without saying that this is not like Banks at all, and that he'll rebound in his next effort. Dan Jackson later got ripped for 4 runs in 2/3 of an inning himself. The offence had no standout performers, so we'll just close the book on this ugly game.

Tampa 5 Dunedin 4

Banks' former teammates had a much closer match, but in the end, an L is an L. Jamie Vermilyea started and pitched decently, allowing 2 runs in 5 innings on 4 hits and 3 walks, striking out just 2; that's a textbook definition of an average start. Vermilyea left with a 3-2 lead, but Chad Pleiness couldn't hold it: he gave up 3 doubles, a single and 2 walks (1 intentional) in 1 1/3 innings, and the 3 runs that resulted gave Tampa the win.

Rehabbing Chris Woodward led off the game with a home run for the D-Jays, indicating that he's probably close to a return trip to Toronto. Carlo Cota and Vito Chiaravalotti each had 2 hits and a walk, while 2-hit nights were also recorded by Jayce Tingler (dropped to the 9th spot) and Miguel Negron. Raul Tablado, hot off the DL, cranked the 5th homer of his abbreviated season. But the D-Jays left 11 men stranded and hit into two double plays in a game they coulda-shoulda won.

Hickory 5 Charleston 4 (12 innings)

The scores keep getting closer as we dive deeper into the system, but the results are the same. Brad Esarey, the Alley-Cats' fourth pitcher of the game, allowed a bases-loaded single in the bottom of the 12th for the loss. But the goat horns hung heaviest on Felix Romero, who gave up a game-tying 2-run homer in the 8th inning to send the game into extras. Romero pitched well enough otherwise, whiffing 2 in 2 innings. Tom Mastny got the start and dodged bullets all evening, allowing just 2 runs in 6 innings, but giving up 7 hits and 3 walks in the process; he did strike out 5. Joaquin Canizal was the Cats' most effective hurler, posting 3 scoreless innings of 1-hit, 2-walk, 2-K ball.

On offence, DH Joey Reiman carried the big stick for Charleston, doubling twice and driving in a run in 4 trips. Ryan Roberts is just toying with the Sally League at this point, drawing four walks in 6 plate appearances and now sporting a nifty .449 on-base percentage. On the other side of the ledger, Clint Johnston, who really should've been in my May Farm Report, took the golden sombrero with 4 Ks. But Clint has been having a pretty remarkable season down in Charleston, posting a .263/.359/.484 line with 18 doubles, 7 homers and 28 walks in 186 AB; too bad about the 50 Ks.

Syracuse had the night off, so it's going to be hard to identify our Three-Star Selection:

The Third Star: Carlo Cota, with a single, double, walk and RBI in the D-Jays' loss.

The Second Star: Ryan Roberts, who walked 4 times and is now sending daily postcards to Skydome asking for a promotion.

The First Star: Joaquin Canizal, whose 3 scoreless innings kept the Alley-Cats close in a game they eventually lost. It's not much, but hey, when is Joaquin going to get another chance at the First Star?
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_Sneeps - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 10:07 AM EDT (#60402) #
Since Banks only threw 30-40 pitches, I wonder if the Cats would consider putting him right back out there on say three days rest. I would consider it is I were JP, just so Josh doesn't have a full week to sit and worry about it.
Mike Green - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 12:18 PM EDT (#60403) #
I hope Banks is put back on his normal 4 days rest. I don't quite understand being so tight on his pitch counts, and then sending him out on 3 days rest for his first start at double A. I'm sure he'll be fine, but it seems to me that the F-Cats could have found someone (Brandon League for a spot start?) other than Banks to go last night.
_R Billie - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 12:36 PM EDT (#60404) #
I agree, seems a little odd to put a young guy going so well out there on three days rest but Banks did say he had done it before and it was no big deal. I think the bad start just had to do with bad location, perhaps from overthrowing, rather than being tired. I think he's still just 22 so there isn't much reason to worry about this guy unless a health problem crops up.

Only one of the runs off Banks was due to an inherited runner scoring I think. The rest came in the form of a whole bunch of doubles. There was even a double to first base according to the game log so it seems there may have been a weird play, maybe a missed pop up or a grounder kicking into foul territory.

I think clearly the pitchers in the Sally League are not challenging Roberts. He should be in Dunedin and if he repeats this performance for a month there let him end up in New Hampshire to end the season. If Hill can handle it then someone with Roberts' discipline might be OK as well.
Gerry - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 12:40 PM EDT (#60405) #
Banks last pitched on May 28th. They were originally going to use him on three days rest but changed their minds.
_Sneeps - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 12:46 PM EDT (#60406) #
Well, I listened to the game, and it could have been a lot better for Banks. He allowed a lead-off double because he was nervous and missing the strike zone, and then he had to groove one down broad street.

Then he got a chopper to 3rd that was an easy play, but it hit a seem in the turf and bounced over the 3rd baseman's head for a double.

Then there was a couple walks and couple more doubles mixed in, but with 1 outs and only 3 in the centerfielder threw the ball away allowing a couple more guys to score.

So, it wouldn't have been a great inning, but he almost got out of it with only 3 scoring, but those are the breaks.
_MatO - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 01:56 PM EDT (#60407) #
I assume that no news on Jesse Harper is good news?
_Carl T. - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 02:26 PM EDT (#60408) #
Jesse Harper was picked up by the Brewers!
Mike Green - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 02:35 PM EDT (#60409) #
"The sweet revenge of Gord Ash" sounds like a Lightfoot or Tragically Hip song. And Jesse Harper has a nice sound to it, a lot better than Bill Barilko.

_JohnnyS99 - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 02:45 PM EDT (#60410) #
Links Carl T??
_MatO - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 02:57 PM EDT (#60411) #
I can't find it.
_Moffatt - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 02:58 PM EDT (#60412) #
There's been no news all day about Harper or Bob File, so I'd file (har har) both under "rumours".
_JohnnyS99 - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 03:07 PM EDT (#60413) #
Bob File ?? was he removed from the 40 man? They could of avoided this whole thing, if they would just use chulk or lopez in Millers spot once or twice, while calling up file. Or moving to a 4 man rotation for 1 week or two.
_JohnnyS99 - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 03:11 PM EDT (#60414) #
The pitching seems alot thinner then we thought, and most of the prospects took a step back moving up levels. There doesnt seem like much help is on the way anytime soon.
Joe - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 03:11 PM EDT (#60415) #
The rumour about File is that he's been called up as Halladay was put on the DL. Both items are unsubstantiated as of yet.
Mike Green - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 03:15 PM EDT (#60416) #
Tonight's games: Charlotte at Syracuse (Josue Matos). New Britain at New Hampshire (TBA); Dunedin (Neomar Flores) at Tampa. Charleston (Ramon Mora) at Hickory. All games at 7.
_Sneeps - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 03:41 PM EDT (#60417) #
Here's the last two days of transactions according to

Harper is not mentioned anywhere. Please let this be right.

06/03/04 Houston Astros
Signed RHP Pete Munro to a one-year contract.
Signed RHP Pete Munro to a one-year contract.
Signed RHP Pete Munro to a one-year contract.
Los Angeles Dodgers
Designated RHP Rodney Myers for assignment.
Designated RHP Rodney Myers for assignment.
Seattle Mariners
Purchased the contract of OF Hiram Bocachica from Triple-A Tacoma.
Tampa Bay Devil Rays
Released RHP Paul Abbott, designated RHP Jason Standridge for assignment and recalled RHP Dewon Brazelton and RHP Jesus Colome from Triple-A.
06/02/04 Chicago Cubs
Optioned RHP Sergio Mitre to Triple-A Iowa.
Optioned RHP Sergio Mitre to Triple-A Iowa.
Optioned RHP Sergio Mitre to Triple-A Iowa.
Florida Marlins
Placed C Ramon Castro on the 15-day DL with inflammation in his right big toe. Selected the contract of C Matt Treanor from Triple-A Albuquerque.
Transferred RHP A.J. Burnett from the 15-day DL to the 60-day disabled list.
Minnesota Twins
Activated C Joe Mauer from the 15-day disabled list; optioned 1B/DH Justin Morneau to Triple-A Rochester.
Activated C Joe Mauer from the 15-day disabled list; optioned 1B/DH Justin Morneau to Triple-A Rochester.
Activated C Joe Mauer from the 15-day disabled list; optioned 1B/DH Justin Morneau to Triple-A Rochester.
Oakland Athletics
Placed 3B Eric Chavez on the 15-day disabled list with a broken bone in his right hand; recalled INF Esteban German from Triple-A Sacramento.
Pittsburgh Pirates
Recalled LHP Mike Gonzalez from Nashville (AAA) and placed RHP Brian Boehringer on the 15-day disabled list (right shoulder tendinitis).
Recalled LHP Mike Gonzalez from Nashville (AAA) and placed RHP Brian Boehringer on the 15-day disabled list (right shoulder tendinitis).
Recalled LHP Mike Gonzalez from Nashville (AAA) and placed RHP Brian Boehringer on the 15-day disabled list (right shoulder tendinitis).
San Diego Padres
Placed OF Brian Buchanan on the 15-day disabled list retroactive to May 29 with a strained left oblique and recalled OF Xavier Nady from Triple-A Portland.
Seattle Mariners
Sent RHP Gil Meche to the Triple-A Tacoma Rainiers and promoted OF/IF Hiram Bocachica.
_Sneeps - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 03:52 PM EDT (#60418) #
This is from

6/3/2004 Remove Jesse Harper from Dunedin Roster - claimed off waivers by Milwaukee Brewers

What a horrible move by JP... I'm really pissed about this one.
_Nigel - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 03:57 PM EDT (#60419) #
Sneeps - I couldn't agree more. This was a waste of a prospect. Stupid move.
Craig B - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 03:58 PM EDT (#60420) #
Thanks Sneeps. I'm mad too, to be honest.
_Steve Z - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 04:03 PM EDT (#60421) #
But at least we still have JFG on the 40-man, right?
_Sneeps - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 04:05 PM EDT (#60422) #
I mean, there must have been some way around this whole fiasco. Couldn't we have called up anyone else? Couldn't we have just signed some bargain basement AAA pitcher to fill in for a week or two? This just seems like a totally amateur move but someone who is usually nothing but a pro.
Craig B - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 04:07 PM EDT (#60423) #
Sneeps, anyone not on the 40-man would have had to be added to the 40-man, which meant we'd be back at square one.
_Sneeps - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 04:10 PM EDT (#60424) #
I think the league needs to reconsider their policy of the 40 man roster. How is it fair to punish teams for being plagued by injuries. First, they have to go out and sign players to fill in at various places in the minors, and then they get plucked of their more important prospects that they can't protect.

Is their any way we can get him back? ex. - he doesn't stay in AAA for the rest of the season... or some other scenario?
Craig B - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 04:13 PM EDT (#60425) #
Sneeps, it's far MORE unfair to Jesse Harper to keep him in Toronto when Milwaukee obviously wants him. I think the league just about has it right on rosters... the current rules give non-blue-chip prospects a fighting chance to land in a place where they'll have a fair shot at the Show.
_R Billie - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 04:16 PM EDT (#60426) #
Not good. But until Jesse proves himself at higher levels it may not be a big deal. It still does seem strange that someone less attractive could not have been designated to bring Towers up. I'm thinking a guy like Sequea might not be claimed and there are a logjam of utility type players on the major league roster right now.

On the other hand more pitchers are on the way via this draft and more will have to be added to the 40-man roster after this season anyway. Unless Harper turns out to be an impact pitcher the damage probably isn't great. At least on the pitching side the Jays will always have to leave a few talented younger guys exposed from time to time.
_Sneeps - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 04:17 PM EDT (#60427) #
I hear that, but I think Harper is in the Jays future plans, and w/o the injury bug biting he'd still be in the organization. There should be some sort of exemption for multiple injuries like this. It's not like the Jays just put him out there because they don't care about him or respect his value, it was a move out of necessity.

Oh well, he is gone. I'm just the a huge prospect buff, so that's why I'm so grumpy over this. Following prospects is just as fun as watching the big team to me.
_Sneeps - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 04:18 PM EDT (#60428) #
That's a good point about the glut of pitchers that will be joining the organization via the draft, R. Billie.
I guess this, in an offhand way is a bit of manuevering to make room in the system.
_Nigel - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 04:25 PM EDT (#60429) #
As I said on my post about this a few days ago, there was a very easy way to have avoided this whole mess. That was to jettison Berg. Clark is on the 40 man and could have played the emergency infield replacement until Hudson gets back. What really kills me about this is that when Woodward and Hudson get back there is a very high likelihood that they will jettison Berg then in favour of Menecchino and Gomez and the back-up infielders. If and when they do that, this moves becomes even more indefensible. We can all agree that Harper is by no means a sure thing. But again, as I pointed out on my posts a few days ago, he is the Jays second most advanced starting pitching prospect. He is not old and has done nothing in the last 12 months to suggest that he was not progressing. Even as someone to throw into a deadline or offseason deal he had way more value to the organization than Berg. Really stupid move.
_Sneeps - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 04:28 PM EDT (#60430) #
Oh man, Nigel. Don't get me started on Dave "Sling Blade" Berg.
_JohnnyS99 - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 04:37 PM EDT (#60431) #
Seque or Harper, whos more important to the organization?
_Jordan - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 04:39 PM EDT (#60432) #
For Harper, I'm happy, because he should have a quicker route to the majors in Milwaukee (though that system is starting to fill up with blue-chip prospects too). He's ready for Double-A right now, and then we'll see where he goes from there.

For the Jays, it's disappointing, because you really can never have too much pitching, and Harper was operating well under the radar. I didn't like the decision to risk Harper for an early-season roster shuffle when it was made, and I still don't like it. All that said, it's not that bad a loss. Harper's peripherals were just on the good side of borderline, his stuff is not overpowering, and there's no evidence he can prosper at higher levels. I was more depressed about losing Dave Gassner (who, by the way, has a 6-3, 3.53 record for Rochester that would look real nice in Syracuse right about now) than I am about Harper. Of course, I'd have preferred if they were both still in the organization. Gassner at least helped bring Ted Lilly aboard; it's the seemingly unnecessary loss of talent in the Harper transaction that bothers me.

For me, I'm going to have to stop adopting minor-league sleepers. First Gassner, now Harper. This doesn't bode well for Davis Romero or Rodney Medina.
_D - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 04:40 PM EDT (#60433) #
What about Nakumara? He clearly cannot contribute at the big league level over an extended period of time. Why would JP not designate him for assignment?
_Nigel - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 04:44 PM EDT (#60434) #
Johnny - I agree that you can get into a lot of debates about jettisoning another prospect (Sequea, JFG maybe even Pond) in favour of Harper. But at least you can make some sort of argument in favour of another prospect (i.e. Sequea is Harper's age and playing at AAA and last year Sequea posted comparable or better numbers than Adams at higher levels than Adams despite being younger than Adams, etc.). There is no support for keeping Berg and I say that even though I like Berg. I think that he's been a solid citizen and until the All-Star break of last year was a pretty useful "jack of all trades" for the Jays. But his production has slipped and his days as a Jay are clearly over at the end of this year if not before. So they should have done it now.
_JohnnyS99 - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 04:45 PM EDT (#60435) #
Should of designate File, his strikeout rate is very poor, and he has had not a full year of pro baseball in 3 years.
_Thorn - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 05:39 PM EDT (#60436) #
Just got in from work and thought tht I would chime in on Harper.I believe that this was a great move for him and a really lame move on the Jay's part.I can tell you guys now that I am from his part of the world and have visited with his people about this move. He is very excited about it because he is wanted and will be given a very good shot at getting to the show. Things did not work out in Toronto, but that is baseball and people have to live with their decisions.Not only are they losing a prospect, but they are losing a class individual who has never embarrased himself or his organization in any way. He will be a success in life no matter what he does for a living. Only time will tell now if Toronto made the right call, or if Milwaukee just stole a pitcher for a song. I also understand that Milwaukee was just one of the clubs that put in for him. They are drafting 5th this weekend,therefore they got his rights before other clubs did. You are awarded a player according to how you finished last year.
_JohnnyS99 - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 05:52 PM EDT (#60437) #
First of all, Jesse harper probably would of still been with the organzation if they didtn put him on the 40 man over the winter, who would of kept jesse harper all year on a major league roste?? Righthanded a ball prospects who dont throw hard dont get taken in the rule 5. This could of been prevented, they protect Harper, but dont protect Matt ford, a lefty who lead the FSL in ERA, and was younger then harper.
_greenfrog - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 06:11 PM EDT (#60438) #
I don't fully understand the 40-man roster system, but losing Harper seems ridiculous. The Jays don't exactly have a surplus of good young pitching, especially since the injuries to McGowan and Halladay (and the delayed comeback of Rosario) mean that the Jays can't afford to lose guys like Harper.

Besides, I think he has decent potential.

_fisher cats rad - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 06:20 PM EDT (#60439) #
FYI...New Hampshire and New Britain will be delayed at the start tonight due to thunderstorms in the Manchester area. Cam Reimers looks for win number 7.
_Sneeps - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 06:53 PM EDT (#60440) #
Thanks Fisher Cats Radio guy. Does it look like they'll get the game in?
_fisher cats rad - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 07:00 PM EDT (#60441) #
Still raining. Maybe 50/50 they get this in. New Britain is back here next week, so they don't have to get it in.
_Sneeps - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 07:07 PM EDT (#60442) #
Thanks. I guess it's the Skychiefs for now then.
_fisher cats rad - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 07:39 PM EDT (#60443) #
Tarp off the field in Manchester at 7:35pm. Skies brightening. Looks like there may be a game. Not likely before 8:15pm or so.
_Sneeps - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 07:55 PM EDT (#60444) #
Anybody else have troubles with the Skychiefs broadcasts? Seems like every game I get disconnected at least a few times, especially towards the end of the games.
_fisher cats rad - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 07:55 PM EDT (#60445) #
Tarp off the field in Manchester at 7:35pm. Skies brightening. Looks like there may be a game. Not likely before 8:25pm or so.
Mike Green - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 09:30 PM EDT (#60446) #
Sneeps, I regularly would miss a batter or two from most of the broadcasts due to disconnection, and often 1/2 an inning.

Syracuse leads 2-1 after 5, NH trails 4-0 in the third, Tampa leads Dunedin 5-0 in the 5th, and Charleston has a 6-3 lead in the 9th.

Heck, I'll do an inning of the Syracuse game:

They're now in the top of the 7th, and it's still 2-1. Matos started went 5 IP and gave up 1 run on 4 hits, including an Andres Torres' homer. Talley Haines is on for his second inning.

Andres Torres flew out to left-center. Jeremy Reed bunted for a hit. Bryant Nelson up. Syracuse's bullpen is up. The Syracuse broadcast is much better than usual because of the presence of a knowledgeable female colour person. I hope she's got a regular gig...Reed takes off and Chiaffredo guns him out at second. Nelson lines out to Benard in second.

2-1 Sky Chiefs going to the 7th inning stretch.
Mike Green - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 09:40 PM EDT (#60447) #
Bottom of 7:

Pacheco in to pitch for Charlotte. Chiaffredo walks on 4 pitches. Russ Adams pops up to shortstop. Chiaffredo is picked off. Shawn Fagan walks. Marvin Benard runs the count full and walks. Glenn Williams up and Charlotte makes a call to the bullpen.

Dunedin rolled a 7 in the 7th (if you're in Florida, that means you should buy a lottery ticket) to take the lead over Tampa.
Mike Green - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 09:46 PM EDT (#60448) #
Bottom of 7 cont'd.

Sanders in to pitch for Charlotte. Glenn Williams turns around and bats right against the lefty. He walks on 4 pitches. The bases are loaded; Gabe Gross up. Gross is 0-3 with 2 strikeouts and a pop-up on the evening. Count goes to 0-2 and Gross strikes out swinging.

2-1 Sky Chiefs after 7.

Charleston defeated Hickory 8-3. And I'm done. If anybody would like to take over, that would be great.
_Sneeps - Thursday, June 03 2004 @ 11:28 PM EDT (#60449) #
Syracuse won 4-1.
New Hamphire lost 6-0.
Dunedin won 8-3.
Charleston won 8-3.

Three outta four ain't bad.
_Interested Spec - Friday, June 04 2004 @ 09:03 AM EDT (#60450) #
I see that Ron Davenport is leading Dunedin in RBI's, while is BA is mediocre. I also see that he is currently on the DL. Does anyone know what it is for or how long he will be on it?
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