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Three divisions.
Twenty teams per division.
Twenty-Five players per team.
Twelve statistical categories.
Promotion and relegation.

Welcome to Year Four of the Batters Box Fantasy League.

Who's With Us?

Today, I emailed all of last year's managers about returning for 2006. If you did not receive it, please send email to bbfl at scottlucas dot com with the following information:

Team Name (old and new, if changing):
Your name:
Email address:
WILL / WILL NOT be playing this year:

BBFL Preseason Schedule

The timetable will be a little sketchy until team ownership is finalized. Rule proposals and discussion will run from now until at least next Sunday. If we have complete team ownership by then, the schedule will run as follows:

Feb 20 through Feb 23: Rule voting
Feb 24: Post results of voting.
Feb 27 through Mar 13: Off-Season Trading Window
Mar 13-15: Announce Keepers
Mar 16: Post Keepers
Mar 23: Deadline to change keepers
Mar 30: Draft.

If we don’t have a full league by Feb 20 I’ll adjust the schedule, but in any case we definitely will announce keepers two weeks before the draft and lock them one week before.

Regarding the trading window, Alomar owners may have players they must relinquish now per the three-year rule, and Barfield owners may have players with only one year remaining. (I’ll post a list in the near future.) Keep this in mind when developing a trading strategy.

Rule Proposal Guidelines

1. One owner proposes a rule change or an addition/adjustment to a current rule.
2. Someone seconds the proposal.
3. The proposal is added to the list. If two or more proposals seem contradictory, I may combine them into a single multiple-choice question at the time of voting (as an example from 2004, we wouldn't have wanted separate proposals on how many teams to relegate). We'll just see how they develop.
4. Before you submit a proposal, please review the existing constitution to make sure you’re not covering old ground.

Remember, BBFL rules can’t contradict Yahoo. For example, last year the BBFL voted to require 100 or more at-bats to qualify for offensive wins (similar to the 25-inning minimum). I later discovered that Yahoo provided no way to implement that rule, so out it went. Also, if a proposed rule would create onerous administrative duties for the commissioner, the commissioner reserves the right to complain incessantly until the rule’s proponents give up.
I’ll have a rule proposal in the comments.

Advancement / Relegation

Per league rules, the three lowest-ranked teams in the Alomar and Barfield divisions move down, and the top three teams (in the standings or playoffs, depending on the circumstances) in Barfield and Carter move up. Here are the switches for 2006:

- Alomar #18 Moscow Rats and Barfield #1 The Mighty Midgets
- Alomar #19 Garces Not On Roids and Barfield #2 Jay’s Ehs
- Alomar #20 Baird Brain and Barfield #3 Schroedinger’s Bat
- Barfield #18 Capers and Carter #1 Baseball North
- Barfield #19 Anarchist Activists and Carter #2 Magic 9
- Barfield #20 Freddy Beach Fracas and Carter #3 Pohnpei Papayas

As you may know, I somehow lost the team roster files. Fortunately, Kent Williams and David Goodwin have supplied me with the Alomar and Barfield rosters, respectively. They’ll be up on the BBFL site soon. I have not heard about a possible Carter division roster yet.

Draft Day

In 2004 and 2005, every division held its draft on the Thursday prior to Opening Day. I suggest the same for 2006; that would be March 30. Choice time slots fill up fast, so we must decide soon.

Waiting List

Interested in playing? Post here and join the waiting list. I'll need to go over my emails and prior posts to see who's waiting already, but we might end up with a few openings.


Alomar: 19 returning, 1 out (Red Mosquitoes)

Barfield: 17 returning, 1 out (Good Sports), 2 nonresponding (Canadian Wannabe, Baird Brain)

Carter: 16 returning, 2 out (Hee Seop Choi, Pond -- Simon Pond), 2 nonresponding (Baker Five, Freddy Beach Fracas)

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Lucas - Monday, February 13 2006 @ 10:23 PM EST (#141095) #
Rule Proposal:

Each division shall have a five-member committee to vote on trade protests. The league commissioner shall appoint the committee members based on levels of availability and commitment. Members may not vote on trades involving their own teams. If a trade involves one committee member, the league commissioner shall vote as the fifth member. If a trade involves two members, the other three shall hold the vote. The vote must have an odd number of members.

[Background: As you know, we had several contentious trade protests last year. The existing committee was created with one division in mind and needs to be updated. I think it’s better to have protests adjudicated within the division.]
Joseph Krengel - Monday, February 13 2006 @ 10:26 PM EST (#141096) #
I'd like to toss my hat into the waiting ring... so to speak.
danjulien - Monday, February 13 2006 @ 10:32 PM EST (#141098) #
I would also like to throw the proverbial hat into the good to be with some serious baseball guys
Pistol - Monday, February 13 2006 @ 10:44 PM EST (#141099) #
"Each division shall have a five-member committee to vote on trade protests"


(And I'm proud to say we had no real trade issues in Barfield!)
eeleye - Monday, February 13 2006 @ 10:48 PM EST (#141100) #
Can I please play? Sounds cool. I love this stuff.

Eli Newman
RonnyBrams - Monday, February 13 2006 @ 11:07 PM EST (#141103) #
I would love to play as well if I could. That sounds like a perfect pool.

T-Fern - Monday, February 13 2006 @ 11:11 PM EST (#141104) #
i would love to be a part of this pool.
Donkit R.K. - Monday, February 13 2006 @ 11:46 PM EST (#141108) #
Who is the owner of Carter's Baseball North?
I hope to see you atop the Barfield this year - though I obviously deserve to be named the worst manager in fantasy sports history for being unable to take my team higher than 18th, I think I leave you with a top of the line list of keepers, beginning with Miguel Cabrera.
Also - I was wondering if, from memory, you can tell me some of the keeper candidates on the team I am overtaking?
HippyGilmore - Monday, February 13 2006 @ 11:58 PM EST (#141109) #
I'd love to play.
Geoff - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 12:20 AM EST (#141111) #
fantastic! add another to the list of waiters.
zaptom - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 01:32 AM EST (#141113) #
I might as well nominate myself for the waiting list. There you go.
The Bone - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 02:03 AM EST (#141114) #
Please add me to the waiting list.
Jevant - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 03:44 AM EST (#141118) #
I'll toss my name into the waiting list as well...
Jobu - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 03:50 AM EST (#141119) #
I'd be all over a team like... uh.... uhh.... John Kruk on a slice of pie?

I'm sorry, I promise my team will be better than my analogies.
andrewkw - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 08:16 AM EST (#141120) #
I hope i'm not too late, i'd love to play
sweat - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 08:48 AM EST (#141126) #
you guys are gonna get spammed something fierce!!
When posting email addresses you should always replace @ with (AT) and . with dot
Craig B - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 09:09 AM EST (#141127) #
Most people have spam filtering in place these days.

I'm in despite having been relegated to Carter... not my proudest moment. At least this year I'll make darned sure to show up for the draft!

I am thinking there are enough people interested that even if Alomar, Barfield and Carter are all full, we can set up a Delgado (or Ducey?) division similar to Carter was last year (or was that two years ago?)... a more informal league that isn't structured as a keeper, with a view to making it permanent the following year if the interest is maintained.
Noah - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 09:11 AM EST (#141129) #
sign me up for the waiting list
Jonny German - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 09:18 AM EST (#141131) #
with a view to making it permanent the following year

I think that's one of those proposals that the Commish will rightly protest.

Paul D - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 09:33 AM EST (#141132) #
What kind of time committment is required for this?

Can I just show up for the draft, and then pay attention once a week, maybe propose a trade or two, or is this something I always need to be on top of?
GrrBear - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 09:45 AM EST (#141134) #
I'd love to get in on this - please add me to the waiting list!
Pistol - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 09:45 AM EST (#141135) #
BBFL is a 20 team head to head league with weekly matchups and daily transactions. If you're not on top of things all of the time you'll find yourself in the bottom of the leauge. It's a real tough league.

Craig B - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 09:55 AM EST (#141136) #
I can attest... I was on top of things in '04 and did OK (I came about 8th in Barfield) but last year I had problems at the draft, never got on track, and ended up 19th and relegated.
3RunHomer - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 09:55 AM EST (#141137) #
When Bug finally vacates the MLB Commissioner office, Lucas would make a excellent replacement. Sure, it would be a step down from the BBFL ...

Looking forward to another fun season in Alomar.
Wedding Singer - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 10:07 AM EST (#141138) #
Lucas, I emailed back in October to express interest - I'm hoping that I'm already on some sort of waiting list, as I'd definitely be interested.
Lucas - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 10:25 AM EST (#141139) #

I am thinking there are enough people interested that even if Alomar, Barfield and Carter are all full, we can set up a Delgado (or Ducey?) division similar to Carter was last year (or was that two years ago?)... a more informal league that isn't structured as a keeper, with a view to making it permanent the following year if the interest is maintained.

(Commissioner weeps quietly for a minute, then says) A fourth division could work as sort of Permanent Waiting List; i.e., people who actively participate would get preference in taking over orphaned BBFL teams. As far as incorporating it fully into the BBFL, three divisions is my limit. A fourth would require some changes.

rIbIt - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 11:45 AM EST (#141143) #
I'd like to participate this season.
Pick me! Pick me!
Sister - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 12:00 PM EST (#141144) #
I also should be on some sort of waiting list from last year.
Hamboy - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 12:07 PM EST (#141145) #
Uhm... as for Carter division roster list... I really hope someone has full list of every team... I have my team and considering what I had to give up to get my 5 keeper, I would really like to continue with them....

anyone? anyone?
clark - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 01:44 PM EST (#141152) #
I'd love to get involved, perhaps in the proposed fourth division. Name suggestions - Sprague, Mayberry, Eichorn
williams_5 - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 01:47 PM EST (#141153) #
I'd like to be part of the waiting list as well.

williams_5 at hotmail

torpg20 - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 01:56 PM EST (#141155) #
I'd like to be on the waiting list as well.

torpg20 - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 01:56 PM EST (#141156) #
ooops. forgot email.
VBF - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 02:14 PM EST (#141158) #
You guys do realize that you can avoid any chance of spam (even with a filtering system) by accessing email through your Batter's Box Account if you click on your name.
Alexander - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 02:25 PM EST (#141161) #
Sign me up!


DepecheJay - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 02:42 PM EST (#141163) #
Sounds awesome!

I'd definitely be interested.
GrrBear - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 03:21 PM EST (#141166) #
<p>For those of us who are not lucky enough to be participating in the Batter's Box Fantasy League, I set up a basic fantasy league on Yahoo!

The Whitt League:
League ID# 96307
Password: ernie

It's not nearly as involved or complicated as the BBFL, but if you're interested, sign up at:
JC - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 04:35 PM EST (#141173) #
I'm sure I'm waaaay down the list at this point, but if there is another spot available - please lemme know.

red_idol at hotmail dot com
jeff - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 04:41 PM EST (#141175) #
For the last two years we had a "Leftovers" league which followed the BBFL format (drafted a day earlier though) and was made up of waiting list members and owners who wanted a second team. I would be willing to set this up. Unlike BBFL, it would not be a "plus" league and therefore any "plus" services would be at the discretion of the owner.

In regards to proposed rule changes, the genus of this one came from Magic 9 but I like it and it would read something like:

"DETERMINATION OF ROSTERS FOR PROMOTED AND RELEGATED TEAMS. Team owners that are promoted or relegated from one division to another shall select, in order of best to worst ranking in the regular season standings of the immediately preceding season, a team roster in the new league amongst: (i) the promoted or delegated team rosters, as appropriate, in their new division; or (ii) abandoned team rosters, as determined by the Commissioner, in their new division. A team owner forfeits his/her priority of selection, if, in the absolute discretion of the Commissioner, the team owner has not selected a team roster within a reasonable time."
jayfanbrooklyn - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 05:14 PM EST (#141178) #
I would like in too
NDG - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 05:50 PM EST (#141183) #
Wow jeff, that's some impressive legalease.

I'd like to see a CF spot included in place of one of the OF spots. We force a 2B, a SS and a MI, so I don't see why there's no requirement for at least one CF on a roster. CF hit quite a bit worse than right or left fielders, therefore their value is degraded quite a bit in the BBFL.
Dan Fords Cousin - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 05:58 PM EST (#141184) #
AGF (Alomar) seconds the CF designation proposal. I have been arguing for this every year but have come up short. It makes no sense that we do not have a designated CF spot.

Skinner - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 06:26 PM EST (#141186) #
I'd also like in if it's not too late.
Jonathan - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 07:34 PM EST (#141188) #
I'm in!
Ben - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 08:17 PM EST (#141190) #
Quick question. I understand I take over an Alomar team since I've been promoted, but what team? Do I take over the highest available if there is a dropout or am I stuck with the 18th ranked team?

Possible rule proposal: the highest ranked vacated team/roster (by droupout or relegation) goes to the highest ranked promotional team and then in numerical order down from there.

This may already apply but I'm fuzzy on this type of situation.
Cristian - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 10:48 PM EST (#141203) #
2 years ago I finished fourth in Barfield but was allowed to take over an Alomar team when the original owner chose not to continue in the league. First in Barfield took 18th in Alomar, second took 19th, and third took 20th. I ended up leapfrogging my Barfield colleages and took over the team that finished 12th in Alomar. Last season's offseason rule changes apply to your situation Ben.

I'd also like to propose a rule change for next year. I'd like to see another DL slot. We voted for two slots last year but I'd like to see three and don't see why we can't put this to a vote again. I'm probably not the only one who had a portion of his season ruined by a bad run of injuries. In a new MLB free of performance enhancing drugs and greenies, I foresee more trips to the DL for players.
6-4-3 - Tuesday, February 14 2006 @ 11:11 PM EST (#141208) #
I'll second the DL proposal.
David Goodwin - Wednesday, February 15 2006 @ 12:05 AM EST (#141211) #
I second Jeff's motion, whereby we'd alter the team exchange mechanism affecting promotion/relegation. As the rule exists now it is some what happenstance in terms of who inherits a better squad. It might be the 18th place squad that has the best keepers, but then again it might be the 20th place squad. Or, as in Cristian's example from last season, an owner might abandon his squad and that team end up having the best keepers. Allowing newly promoted/relegated owners to select the team they inherit offers a fair reward for being more successful in the previous season (vis a vis the other owners coming into the division).

In order for this rule proposal to work effectively, the commissioner would first need to confirm participation of the existing owners to determine if any are being abandoned. Once this is complete, the mechanism of doling out new teams wouldn't take much time to sort out.
Ben - Wednesday, February 15 2006 @ 01:06 AM EST (#141212) #
I think what I was thinking was already proposed by Jeff. Lack of sleep and confusing legal jargon aside, I'll third Jeff's initiative
dp - Wednesday, February 15 2006 @ 10:17 AM EST (#141224) #
I like the CF idea- and not just b/c I have Griffey and Edmonds.

I don't like a 3rd DL spot- what makes the league tough is having to make those calls about players- when your DL slots are full do you cut a guy who'll miss a couple of weeks and grab an inferior player to help your counting stats, or do you hold the injured guy? The other strategy is snagging injured players and stashing them until they're ready- this works fine with 2 slots (didn't with one), but I think will be problematic with 3. Just my .02...

I have to say, BBFL is the only fantasy ball I look forward to. I had a great time last year even though I was at the bottom of the standings for most of it...
Jay - Wednesday, February 15 2006 @ 10:48 AM EST (#141229) #
I guess I am presently the lucky one with regards to promotion to Alomar as it appears I have inherited the fullest squad of potential keepers. Having said that and reviewed the other proposals regarding promotion let me add another option that will hopefully get seconded.

I would like to see a "Promotion Draft" done by newly promoted owners on the player pool from relegated and non-returning owners. The draft would have to take place about a week prior to trading season beginning and I would recommend a 8-10 round draft, with the new owner's reserving the right to "pass" on later selections if they feel the remaining pool is not keeper or trade-worthy. The draft would not be a snake draft but the order is determined based on the order of finish last year. I would also recommend that drafting owners take on the contract status of any players (e.g. draft Berkman even though I know we would have to be traded).

This gives the best team from last year the best selections of the pool and takes away the luck of the draw factor, while also providing new owner's with their own tools to start building the team.
Lucas - Wednesday, February 15 2006 @ 01:23 PM EST (#141240) #
I don't have a strong opinion about changing how we assign teams. The proposal seems reasonable. It does need some clarification: who picks first in Barfield, the best team relegated from Alomar or the best team promotoed from Carter? Considering relegated Alomar owners get the top-three teams in Barfield, I'd suggest that Alomar goes first, but maybe someone has a different opinion.

I'd be strongly opposed to a pre-draft draft for new owners. I think that we might be overstating the importance of keepers on a team's viability. We're playing with 25 players, not five. It's a very small sample, but there's no evidence to suggest that inheriting keepers from good or bad teams has much effect on how the team does. Last year's promoted Barfield owners finished 6th, 12th and 15th in the regular season. Last year's relegated Alomar owners, who inherited the top three teams from 2004, finished 10th, 12th and 13th. Further, it sounds like a real chore administratively.

Also to clarify, the 3-year status of a player does not change if the team gets a new owner. It only changes if the player is traded to a new team. For example, if someone took over my team, he'd still have to trade Jeff Kent or throw him back into the draft pool this spring.
Michael - Wednesday, February 15 2006 @ 10:17 PM EST (#141256) #
I'd second the increase of the DL slots. I'd suggest we make it the full 5 (which, iirc, is as many as yahoo would do).

I think I have my team roster in Carter, and I may have all of Carter's post-draft roster. It is too bad that yahoo trashes your league and doesn't send a summary to the commish or team owners or keep the league info up into the next fantasy year.
Geoff - Thursday, February 16 2006 @ 12:50 AM EST (#141265) #
When do we learn if we made the team?
David A - Thursday, February 16 2006 @ 02:08 AM EST (#141266) #
I think adding the CF position would be harmful as it's already tough enough filling some positions where there is a limited amount of players. Keep in mind that it's almost impossible to fill 2B, SS, and MI on every team with a player who gets a starters plate appearances as is. Creating more position scarcity when a 450 player draft is involved leaves little to begin with, I think added complexity only serves in creating fewer teams who will be competitive at the end of the season. And I'm actually a team that would stand to benefit from a CF spot having both V Dub and Rowand as potential keepers.

As far as the DL thing goes, I'd vote to keep it as is. 5 is way too much, and even at 3 there's room to stockpile. Like Craig said earlier success in these leagues are based on constant monitoring of your team on a daily basis and being forced to make sometimes difficult choices to stay in the game is part and parcel to that. The worst case scenario where more than 2 guys get hurt you can still keep the hurt guys on the bench but not be able to sign anyone else.
Lucas - Thursday, February 16 2006 @ 10:36 AM EST (#141276) #
I updated the list of who's responded. I've also sent second emails to those who haven't responded. I have to leave town today and will be back either Friday night or Saturday. At that time, I'll give the nonrespondents 24 hours, then I'll start filling in spots from the waiting list.

We have some holdovers from last year: Sister, Brian, DanJulien, jsut, CSHunt68, Wedding Singer, Jdog and seeyou. The rest of the waiting list follows how people have posted above. If there's ten spots open, I'll email the first ten and send out "you're next in line" emails to the next few people. Time to respond will be short, so be ready. It looks like I'll be emailing waiting list people on about Sunday.
melondough - Thursday, February 16 2006 @ 12:31 PM EST (#141282) #
For those of you with some time, today at MLB.COM from 12pm to 1pm (currently live) is their fantasy 411 show. I missed the first 20 minutes and they are already done with the infielders (I heard 2B and SS but no Jays mentioned). Now its onto the OF's and pitchers.....

From their site it states the following:
A one-hour video preview show from noon ET till 1 p.m. ET, detailing the top sleepers and busts by position for the 2006 season

• A two-hour live fantasy call-in show from 1 p.m. ET to 3 p.m. with MLB Radio hosts Mike Siano and Cory Schwartz answering calls and emails from fans

• Fantasy tips from a wide range of experts, including "Desperate Housewives" co-star and self-pronounced "seamhead" James Denton

• A Fantasy 101 crash course

• A look at the top fantasy players of the past 25 years, as well as players that have been the biggest disappointments

3RunHomer - Saturday, February 18 2006 @ 09:40 AM EST (#141367) #
For those on the BBFL waiting list, the Camden Chat blog is also starting a league. Open to 20 teams and they had 13 on Friday.

Camden Chat is an Orioles blog, but don't hold that against them. Or maybe you will and you'll have more incentive to beat them.
Lucas - Saturday, February 18 2006 @ 09:59 PM EST (#141369) #
Final attempt at contacting current owners is underway. Will start contacting potential new owners Sunday night.
Cristian - Saturday, February 18 2006 @ 10:04 PM EST (#141370) #

Can you list the owners who are currently MIA? I know that the email address you had for me wasn't current. It might be good to give MIA owners a heads up here as well.
Lucas - Sunday, February 19 2006 @ 01:20 AM EST (#141371) #
The missing owners' teams are listed in the article body under 'UPDATE.' None of the emails are being bounced, and there are at least two addresses I am certain are current because of other correspondence.
Lucas - Sunday, February 19 2006 @ 01:38 AM EST (#141372) #
Barring any further proposals/seconds, here's what will be on the rules ballot:

1. For trade protest, each division would have its own review committee instead of the present league-wide committee.
2. Changing ownership of promoted/relegated/orphaned teams from assignment-by-position to choice-by-position.
3. Changing one OF slot to CF.
4. Increasing the number of DL slots from 2 to either 3 or 5.
Nolan - Sunday, February 19 2006 @ 01:58 AM EST (#141373) #
Well, there seems to be no way that I'll get in on a league here this year, so if I could get my foot in the door for next year, that'd be great.
Skills - Thursday, February 23 2006 @ 06:16 PM EST (#141455) #
How exactly does the offseason trading work? Can you trade anyone on your roster from the season? I suppose in reality the only people changing hands would be players identified by keepers by the people who trade for them. I realize I'm rambling, can someone set me straight?
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