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Well, in Blue Jays history anyway. And for those of you who expect the name "Josh Towers" to appear in this article.... I promise Satisfaction. And we will meet All-Stars and Cy Young winners as well as the Lost and Forgotten.

It was, obviously, a very difficult year to be a Josh Towers fan. Where does his dismal 2006 season stand in the list of Worst Seasons by a Blue Jay starting pitcher? Near the top (which in the case, of course, means near the very bottom of the barrel) - but there have been worse.

I actually decided to employ some sort of Method in assessing these dreadful performances. I chose for eligibility anyone who made 10 starts in a season. We need a minimum, and the bar has to be set pretty low because when you pitch as poorly as these guys did you're not allowed to make 30 starts. I then went over to and took note of all the eligible starters who posted an ERA+ below 80 (The league average for that season will always be 100.) I then subtracted the pitcher's ERA+ from 80 and multiplied that figure by innings pitched.

After all, while no eligible starter posted a worse ERA+ than Roy Halladay in 2000, there were other fellas who achieved a comparable level of Awfulness and inflicted it on their teammates for twice as many innings. Which is how the following list was generated.

Using 80 as the base factor means you have to pitch quite poorly to rack up a lot of points. If we used the league average (100), by far the most important factor would not be the degree of awfulness so much as the quantity of innings. For example, if we use 100 as the base, Jim Clancy's 1984 season scores as the third worst season ever by a Blue Jay starter, worse than Towers last year or Halladay in 2000. Clancy did have a pretty lousy year, but he was nowhere near that bad. Hence we use 80 - a kind of replacement level - as the base factor.

So in 2000, Roy Halladay posted an ERA+ of 47 in 67.2 IP. Multiple those IP by 33 (80-47) and you get 2234. I have decided to call the result of this computation the Suckage Index.

So let's get to the Grim Details, and begin the Countdown From Hell...

10. Jeff Byrd (1977) - 2-13, 6.18. Suckage Index: 1048
Jeff Byrd was a 20 year old right-hander who was thrown into the Toronto rotation midway through the inaugural season. Really, what were the chances that was going to work? Byrd stayed right there, bravely taking his turn every five days for the rest of the year, and getting his hat handed to him on a regular basis. He managed to win twice in 17 starts. Byrd's main problem was not unheard of in young pitchers - he couldn't throw strikes. In 87.3 innings, he managed to walk 68 batters. He never pitched again in the major leagues.

9. Bill Singer (1977) - 2-8, 6.79. Suckage Index: 1075
One of the reasons young Byrd was in the rotation was because Opening Day starter Bill Singer had gone down with an injury in early June. Singer had been a fine pitcher in his day, twice winning 20 games and three times striking out 200 batters. Twice, in fact, his managers had seen fit to let him throw more than 300 innings. Of course, both times Singer responded to that workload the next year by either: a) getting hurt; b) pitching poorly; or c) both. Singer in 1977 was coming off a 13-10, 3.69 season in which he had worked 236 innings. He had nothing left in 1977, and never pitched again in the majors.

8. Todd Stottlemyre (1988) 4-8, 5.69. Suckage Index: 1078
Unlike Byrd and Singer, Stottlemyre did have a future. But in 1988 he was a rookie. He began the season as the fifth starter. By late May, he had started eight times, and sported a 1-6, 5.54 log. That put him onto the Jimy Williams shuffle - he switched back and forth from the bullpen to the rotation for the next two months before being dispatched back to Syracuse in late July. He came back up in September, and got in five relief appearances as a call-up. While his numbers don't look as bad as Byrd's or Singer's, two things to note: a) he had a far, far better team behind him; b) in 1988, AL teams apart from Toronto scored 4.33 runs per game; in 1977, AL teams apart from Toronto scored 4.59 runs per game.

7. Jack Kucek (1980) 3-8, 6.75. Suckage Index: 1088
Here's someone I had completely forgotten. He was a 27 year old right-hander who'd had a few cups of coffee with the White Sox and Phillies. The Jays signed him after the Phillies released him, and in June 1980 they called him up and stuck him in the rotation. He started out just fine, going 2-1, 2.89 in his first five starts. He then got roughed up a couple of times and was sent to the bullpen. He pitched very badly in three relief appearances, and was returned to the rotation. He made another five starts, and was truly horrible - 0-3, 12.86, giving up 29 hits in 15.2 innings - which got him banished to the bullpen for the rest of the season. He never pitched again in the majors.

6. Danny Darwin (1995) 1-8, 7.62. Suckage Index: 1170
Danny Darwin actually seemed like a reasonable idea at the time. Granted, he was 39 years old. Granted, he was coming off a dismal (7-5, 6.30) 1994 season. But he'd won 15 games for Boston the year before that, and had been a decent major league pitcher for a long time. I always regarded him as a lesser version of Dennis Eckersley (same build, same delivery, same problems with LH batters); like the Eck, Darwin had also had his best results pitching out of the pen. But in Toronto, he was only expected to be a decent, low-cost fifth starter (behind Cone, Guzman, Hentgen, and Leiter), and in fact his first two starts were just fine (1-0, 1.80). Then the wheels fell off - he lost each of his next eight starts. He pitched well just once, a complete game loss to the Indians, before being yanked from the rotation at the end of June. After two poor outings in relief, the Jays released him in mid-July.

5. Jerry Garvin (1978) 4-12, 5.54. Suckage Index: 1302
Garvin was a 21 year old left-hander who was taken from Minnesota in the original expansion draft. The Jays put him in the rotation to begin that inaugural season, and Garvin won his first five decisions. He is probably best remembed for his pick-off move - he picked off an astonishing 28 base-runners in his rookie season (and committed just two balks in the process.) The team was truly, truly terrible, and Garvin would lose 10 straight decisions later in the year. Nevertheless, it was a truly impressive season - he gave up almost exactly a hit an inning, despte the awful defenders behind him, and he didn't walk a lot of people. He had some trouble keeping the ball in the park, and it would have been nice if he could have struck out more people (4.67 K per 9 IP) - but for a 21 year old rookie on an expansion team, it was a remarkable season. However, in the process he had worked 244 IP at age 21; the year before, as a 20 year old in the Twins system, he had pitched 233 IP, and the year before that, still a teenager, he worked 205 IP. The butcher's bill came due in 1978. By mid July, he was 2-11 when Roy Hartsfield first pulled him from the rotation. After a couple of relief outings, he went back into the rotation before being shut down for most of September. He missed most of 1979 with his arm problems and while did manage to put together a couple of decent years as a lefty reliever I can't help but wonder if his career might have turned out very differently if he'd come along ten years later, in an organization that had some idea of how to develop young pitchers.

4. Jack Morris (1993) 7-12, 6.19. Suckage Index: 1374
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition and there was no reason on earth to expect what happened to Jack Morris in 1993. You will recall that in 1991 he won 18 games and took Minnesota to the World Series; in 1992, he came to Toronto and did the same thing (the two seasons are ridiculously similar.) But then... his first three starts of 1993 completely redefined the concept of Awfulness: 0-3, with an ERA of 17.18. Don't see that too often. His next three starts were merely bad (1-1, 7.02), and the Jays stuck him on the DL for three weeks while everyone speculated as to what had gone wrong. (one school of thought was that he was tipping his pitches, but other long-time Morris watchers maintained that he had always tipped his pitches.) Upon his return, Morris finally pitched a good ball game, but he then offered up stinkers in three of his next four outings. By mid-June, after his first 11 starts, his record stood at 3-7, 9.91. He actually recovered somewhat at this point, beginning with a five-hit shutout of the Twins, and went 4-5 4.23 over his next 16 starts. But he was having some physical problems - he came out of one start after two scoreless innings and was shut down for good in early September.
Morris was not the most popular player in Blue Jays history. He did not come up through the system - on the contrary, he had been a troublesome opponent for a very long time, he did not have a warm and cuddly personality, and he seemed in many ways the embodiment of the athlete as mercenary - after going to Minnesota and herocially pitching his hometown team to a championship, he lit out for where the money was. As I recall, Mike Hogan in particular seemed to take it personally that Morris had stuck it to the people of Minnesota. Morris, of course, was one of the players caught up in the owner's Collusion Conspiracy - the older readers may remember Morris flying up to Minneosta to offer his services in the off-season of 1987. But for some reason, the Twins just couldn't find room for a 20 game winner. Neither could the Yankees or the Angels. None of them even made an offer.

3. Josh Towers (2006) 2-10, 8.42. Suckage Index: 1488
You were there.

2. Roy Halladay (2000) 4-7, 10.64. Suckage Index: 2234
The final two entries, the bottom of the barrel, are in a class all by themselves. The arrival of Roy Halladay had been anticipated long before he actually showed up in Toronto, and he arrived with a splash at the end of 1998, coming within one out of pitching a no-hitter in his second major league start. As a 22 year old rookie in 1999, he had gone 8-7, 3.92 in a season split evenly between the rotation and the bullpen. HIs K-W ratio (82-79 in 149.1 IP) was a little worrisome, but his future was assumed to be very bright.
And so it would be, but the future had to wait a while. Doc beat the Royals 6-3 in his first start of the season - from there it all went downhill. He ran off six straight terrible starts, allowing more than a run per inning each time - he went 1-4, 13.50 and you're probably wondering how he managed to win one of those games. Easy - the team staked him to an 11-1 lead, before Doc gave up six runs to let the Angels back into it. The team finally sent him to the bullpen - he emerged once to allow four hits and three runs in one inning and finally they sent him to Syracuse. He didn't pitch particularly well there, but came back a month later. He made three starts and one was pretty decent. The other two were terrible, and he went back to the bullpen, and then back again to Syracuse. He was back in September to make one nondescript relief appearance, another terrible start, and finally closed his season by allowing 7 runs, all unearned, in two-thirds of an inning against Baltimore.

1. Dave Lemanczyk (1978) 4-14, 6.26. Suckage Index: 2324
The surprise winner, just barely nosing Halladay's historically awful season. Lemanczyk was the Jays top winner in 1977, and he would pitch well again in 1979 (he even got to go to the All-Star Game as a result.) But the year in between was pretty ugly. He made five April starts and went 0-5, 7.67. He was worse in May, but managed a 1-3, 8.00 log - he got the win despite allowing 12 hits and 7 runs. In June, he took his 1-9, 8.52 log to the bullpen. He pitched poorly there for a few weeks, and returned to the rotation, for no apparent reason. Yet at this juncture, he suddenly seemed to recover his form. He put together three strong starts in a row, winning twice and throwing a complete game in a 2-0 loss. After a few more rough outings, he closed the month strong and actually posted a 2.85 ERA for the month. Alas, 'twas a mirage. He made two poor starts in August, went on the DL, and came back to pitch poorly out of the pen in September.
Lemanczyk was nowhere near as bad as Halladay in 2000 - he was probably not even as bad as Towers last year. But he was indeed pretty bad, and he pitched about as much as Doc and Josh put together. And to him goes the No-Prize.

Special dishonourable mentions? Pat Hentgen (2004), Luke Prokopec and Brandon Lyon (2004), Mark Lemongello and Phil Huffman (1979), Juan Guzman (1995)

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Original Ryan - Wednesday, January 31 2007 @ 09:54 AM EST (#162853) #
It's worth noting that Halladay's ERA in 2000 is a major league record worst for any pitcher with over 60 innings pitched.
Geoff - Wednesday, January 31 2007 @ 10:10 AM EST (#162855) #
You will recall that in 1991 he won 18 games and took Minnesota to the World Series; in 1992, he came to Toronto and did the same thing (the two seasons are ridiculously similar.)

They weren't that similar.
Year Tm  W  L   G   GS  CG SHO  IP     H    R   ER   HR  BB   SO  HBP  BFP  IBB  ERA *ERA+
1991 MIN 18 12 35 35 10 2 246.7 226 107 94 18 92 163 5 1032 5 3.43 124
1992 TOR 21 6 34 34 6 1 240.7 222 114 108 18 80 132 10 1005 2 4.04 102
Okay, not far off but not exactly replicas. Fewer walks, fewer strikeouts, fewer losses, one less start. But what I remember most as being different is:
Year Round Tm  Opp WLser  G GS   ERA   W-L  SV CG SHO  IP    H   ER  BB  SO
1991 ALCS MIN TOR W 2 2 4.05 2-0 0 0 0 13.3 17 6 1 7
WS MIN ATL W 3 3 1.17 2-0 0 1 1 23.0 18 3 9 15
1992 ALCS TOR OAK W 2 2 6.57 0-1 0 1 0 12.3 11 9 9 6
WS TOR ATL W 2 2 8.44 0-2 0 0 0 10.7 13 10 6 12
And in particular the difference between 23 innings with 3 earned runs in the World Series vs. 10 and two-thirds of an inning with 10 (ten!) earned runs in the World Series. You know, with the talk all year long of how he is a big-game pitcher.

And I had attributed his performance in 1993 to the mental destruction of his abysmal 1992 postseason. When you go 4-0 in the postseason to garner your new contract and postseason hero status and then you put in an 0-3 performance, it should weigh on your conscience more than a little.
Mike Green - Wednesday, January 31 2007 @ 10:21 AM EST (#162859) #
The 2000 club is a fascinating story.  The offence superficially looked great, but really wasn't.  The club led the league in homers, but due to a lack of overall plate discipline (13th out of 14 in walks drawn), ended up being actually a little below league median.  They had 4 starting pitchers who at a point in their careers would be very good or better, and 3 who would be good.  Unfortunately, the club got a typical David Wells season, 200 good innings from Castillo/Loaiza and nothing else.  The bullpen had a half-decent Koch, Paul Quantrill in an off-season, and nothing else.

They were in the pennant race, but only because they significantly out-performed their Pythagorean.  88 wins would have done it, and better management might very well have got them there.

Magpie - Wednesday, January 31 2007 @ 11:08 AM EST (#162865) #
not exactly replicas

It was the IP, Hits HR and BB allowed that struck me. It's hard for two seasons to be more alike. It resulted in seven more runs allowed over the course of the year, but I think that was pretty random. The most striking difference was the ERA - he caught a bit of a break with the Twins (13 unearned runs) and had no such luck with the Jays (only 6 unearned runs.) Strangely enough, more opposing batters reached base on an error in 1992 (12) than in 1991 (5).
Mick Doherty - Wednesday, January 31 2007 @ 12:42 PM EST (#162874) #
Mags, just curious -- any idea what the worst MLB "suckage index" would be in the history of the game, Blue-Jay-ness aside?
AWeb - Wednesday, January 31 2007 @ 01:13 PM EST (#162878) #
It's Lima Time! 2005 : ERA+ of 62. Yet he managed 168 2/3 innings.

A suckage index of 3036 in 2005! We may have a winner?

He'd also make the Toronto list for his 2000 (suckage=1178) and 2002 (suckage of 1777) seasons.

Mike Green - Wednesday, January 31 2007 @ 04:11 PM EST (#162883) #
Rube Bressler had a season for the ages in 1915. 4-17 with a 56 ERA+ in 178 innings for a suckage index of 4272.  He was 20 years old, and not surprising I guess, the A's decided to pull a reverse Dave Stieb on him and move him to the outfield.  He was actually a good enough hitter. 
Mike Green - Wednesday, January 31 2007 @ 04:16 PM EST (#162884) #
One more thing.  After his absolutely ghastly season, Bressler had an ERA+ of 76 at age 20.  Check out his BBRef comparable list.  Jim Palmer. Ken Holzman.  Frank Tanana. Ray Sadecki.  The average of his comparables threw 1800 innings after that with an ERA+ of 104.  Of course, the comparable list doesn't adequately account for context- Bressler had a much worse ERA+ than any of his comparables.
Mike Green - Wednesday, January 31 2007 @ 04:52 PM EST (#162886) #
Suckage index doesn't, of course, account for the effect of a terrible defence on a young pitcher.  Bressler wasn't alone on the post-1914 A's sell-off pitchers.  Elmer Myers went 14-23 for the 1916 As in 315 innings with a 78 ERA+, then they brought him back in 1917 at age 23 and he went 9-16 with a 62 ERA+ in 201 innings for a 3618 suckage index.  In 1918, they mercifully cut back his innings.

Eddie Collins and Frank Baker might have helped Bressler and Myers.

Rob - Wednesday, January 31 2007 @ 06:06 PM EST (#162889) #
Here I was, all excited because of the name that appeared at the top of my rudimentary analysis, but Bressler has him beat. This is simply the "top 10" of the 25 lowest raw ERAs ever (at least 10 starts, 1901-2005), plus every qualifying season of Jose Lima's. Lemanczyk doesn't show up, which means there are probably lots of others I missed, but the Lahman database, as great as it is, doesn't include ERA+.
Name         Year     ERA       SI 
S. Blass 1973 9.85 3901
J. Lima 2005 6.99 3036
C. McLish 1944 7.82 2940
A. Larkin 1998 9.64 2763
H. Nomo 2004 8.25 2520
B. Havens 1983 8.18 2249
R. Halladay 2000 10.64 2233
J. Haynes 1996 8.29 1869
S. Erickson 2000 7.87 1853
J. Lima 2000 7.77 1777
John Northey - Wednesday, January 31 2007 @ 06:34 PM EST (#162892) #

The latest Lahman database has the ability to figure out ERA+ (I can provide the two queries needed to anyone who asks) so I could figure out suckage index for all-time.  I didn't merge seasons (ie: if someone pitched for two teams I just list their suckage for each team rather than join them together).  Since my ERA+ is figured to many, many decimals my figures are a bit different than if you just use B-R

So, here it is...

Player		Year	Team			ERA	ERA+	IP	Suckage
John Coleman	1883	Philadelphia Phillies	4.87	63	538.3	9038
Dory Dean	1876	Cincinnati Reds		3.73	59	262.7	5596
Jersey Bakely	1884	Philadelphia Keystones	4.47	65	344.7	5238
Curry Foley	1880	Atlanta Braves		3.89	59	238.0	5108
Lev Shreve	1888	Indianapolis Hoosiers	4.63	64	297.7	4870
John Cassidy	1875	Brooklyn Atlantics	3.98	58	214.7	4702
Frank Bates	1899	Cleveland Spiders	7.24	51	153.0	4423
Bill Stearns	1875	Washington Nationals	5.36	49	141.0	4354
Asa Brainard	1874	Baltimore Canaries	4.93	62	239.0	4316
Rube Bressler	1915	Oakland Athletics	5.20	56	178.3	4205
George Zettlein	1876	Philadelphia Athletics	3.88	62	234.0	4126
Sam Weaver	1884	Philadelphia Keystones	5.76	50	136.0	4045
Billy Crowell	1888	Cleveland Spiders	5.79	53	150.7	4021
Steve Blass	1973	Pittsburgh Pirates	9.85	36	88.7	3930
Irv Young	1907	Atlanta Braves		3.96	64	245.3	3907
John Northey - Wednesday, January 31 2007 @ 06:45 PM EST (#162893) #

Looking at the numbers we have a ton of old guys.  Lets limit it to the post-WW II era top 10...

Player		Year	Team			ERA	ERA+	IP	Suckage
Steve Blass	1973	Pittsburgh Pirates	9.85	36	 88.7	3930
Jose Lima	2005	Kansas City Royals	6.99	62	168.7	3101
Andy Larkin	1998	Florida Marlins		9.64	43	 74.7	2790
Andy Hassler	1975	LA Angels of Anaheim	5.94	60	133.3	2697
Bill Greif	1972	San Diego Padres	5.60	59	125.3	2689
Jack Lamabe	1964	Boston Red Sox		5.89	65	177.3	2610
Bob Knepper	1989	Houston Astros		5.89	58	113.0	2542
Hideo Nomo	2004	Los Angeles Dodgers	8.25	50	 84.0	2514
Mark Davis	1984	San Francisco Giants	5.36	66	174.7	2510
Jay Hook	1963	New York Mets		5.48	64	152.7	2506

Lots of suckage there eh?  Roy Halladay's year ranks #25 in the post WW II era, Lemanczyk is #17.

Of course, I couldn't resist the opposite, who had the 'least sucky' years?  The top 11 (covers all -35000 scores or 'worse')

Player		Year	Team			ERA	ERA+	IP	Suckage
Bob Gibson	1968	St Louis Cardinals	1.12	258	304.7	-54214
Pedro Martinez	2000	Boston Red Sox		1.74	285	217.0	-44452
Dwight Gooden	1985	New York Mets		1.53	225	276.7	-40224
Greg Maddux	1994	Atlanta Braves		1.56	273	202.0	-39006
Eckersley	1990	Oakland Athletics	0.61	604	 73.3	-38462
Roger Clemens	1997	Toronto Blue Jays	2.05	226	264.0	-38454
Greg Maddux	1995	Atlanta Braves		1.63	259	209.7	-37495
Wilbur Wood	1971	Chicago White Sox	1.91	188	334.0	-36107
Sandy Koufax	1966	LA Dodgers		1.73	190	323.0	-35493
Steve Carlton	1972	Phil Phillies		1.97	182	346.3	-35243
Pedro Martinez	1999	Boston Red Sox		2.07	244	213.3	-35075

So we get a Blue Jay but that amazing year for Bob Gibson wins easily and Eck's amazing 1990 is all the more astounding.

Gerry - Wednesday, January 31 2007 @ 09:21 PM EST (#162896) #
Not that I am going to do the work, but it would be interesting to see how relievers rate, Jeff Tam anyone?
AWeb - Wednesday, January 31 2007 @ 10:43 PM EST (#162897) #
I'm pretty happy I came up with the second worst live-ball era name off the top of my head. Although Lima was impressively terrible several times, so it kinda' sticks with you. 

Steve Blass finished 2nd in the Cy voting the year before his historically bad season...."Steve Blass disease" is what I came to know as "Steve Sax disease" and later  "Chuck Knoblauch disease". I knew I recognized that name somewhere.
John Northey - Wednesday, January 31 2007 @ 11:07 PM EST (#162898) #

Well, going by guys who had 0 starts...


Name		Year	Team			ERA	ERA+	IP	SuckScore
Jaret Wright	2003	San Diego Padres	8.37	47.05	47.3	1560
Jim Todd	1979	Oakland Athletics	6.56	61.72	81.0	1480
Ben Hayes	1983	Cincinnati Reds		6.49	58.66	69.3	1479
Bob Veale	1971	Pittsburgh Pirates	6.99	48.55	46.3	1457
Don McMahon	1960	Atlanta Braves		5.94	57.66	63.7	1423
Ben Wade	1954	Los Angeles Dodgers	8.20	49.66	45.0	1365
George Frazier	1985	Chicago Cubs		6.39	62.31	76.0	1345
Ron Davis	1986	Minnesota Twins		9.08	47.37	38.7	1262
Bobby Locke	1968	LA Angels of Anaheim	6.44	45.31	36.3	1260
Joe Gilbert	1972	Washington Nationals	8.45	42.05	33.0	1252

And of course for the Jays...

Name			Year	Team			ERA	ERA+	IP	SuckScore
Danny Cox		1995	Toronto Blue Jays	 7.40	63.68	45.0	734
Tim Crabtree		1997	Toronto Blue Jays	 7.08	65.18	40.7	603
Dyar Miller		1979	Toronto Blue Jays	10.57	41.09	15.3	597
Robert Person		1998	Toronto Blue Jays	 7.04	66.07	38.3	534
Giovanni Carrara	1996	Toronto Blue Jays	11.40	46.49	15.0	503
Tom Bruno		1977	Toronto Blue Jays	 7.85	53.23	18.3	491
Dan Plesac		1999	Toronto Blue Jays	 8.34	58.85	22.7	479
Mike Willis		1981	Toronto Blue Jays	 5.91	66.80	35.0	462
Chuck Hartenstein	1977	Toronto Blue Jays	 6.59	63.49	27.3	451
Brandon League		2005	Toronto Blue Jays	 6.56	67.64	35.7	441
Joe - Thursday, February 01 2007 @ 12:34 AM EST (#162901) #
 Awesome stuff. How about least sucky relievers?

The -40000 scores really go to show you the heights some pitchers can reach, and is a real contrast to suckiness ("Lima factor") -- they don't even crack 10000! Although I guess not too many managers would be managing in the major leagues if they let their pitchers suck that badly.

Magpie - Thursday, February 01 2007 @ 12:23 PM EST (#162917) #
Ah, Mark Lemongello. He was a 22 year old year old RH who had gone 9-14, 3.33 for the Astros in 1978. There was no shortage of warning signs, however - he was pitching in the Astrodome and he couldn't strike out anybody. Nevertheless, the Jays traded their new broadcaster, and current catcher, Alan Ashby to obtain him for the 1979 season. Outside the friendly confines of the Astrodome, Lemongello did not fare so well - he went 1-9, 6.29 for the Jays, was yanked from the rotation by mid-season, and according to one observer "threw more chairs than strikes." The Jays sold him to the Cubs in the spring of 1980 but he never pitched in the majors again.

In 1982 he was arrested for kidnapping and armed robbery, and from there I lose track of the story.
Jordan - Thursday, February 01 2007 @ 05:10 PM EST (#162936) #

The phrase "he never pitched in the majors again" occurs an astounding number of times in this thread.

Tremendous work as always, Magpie.

Craig B - Friday, February 16 2007 @ 10:17 AM EST (#163562) #

Oakland had a big draft, appeared set with 4 young guns who would shoot through the minors and take MLB by storm.  All flopped iirc, with some success in the pen but nothing as starters and none did anything of value for Oakland.

Great memory John.  When you mentioned this, it revived a dim memory in me of a cover of Baseball America with four Oakland pitchers on it.  Was it Van Poppel and Kirk Dressendorfer?  And two other guys?

Craig B - Friday, February 16 2007 @ 10:22 AM EST (#163563) #

Wow, check this out... from an old Gammons column...

Oakland that year had what was called the greatest pitching draft ever. Their names? Van Poppel, Kirk Dressendorfer, Don Peters, Dave Zancanaro, Curtis Shaw, Chaon Garland. Dressendorfer was the only one other than Van Poppel who ever made it to the show, and he was 3-3 before injuries cut short his career. Area scout J.P. Ricciardi took Tanyon Sturtze in the 23rd round, and he turned out to be their best out of the draft.

A Tanyon Sturtze sighting!  I never knew when TS was here that J.P. was his signing scout.

katman - Monday, December 31 2007 @ 05:18 PM EST (#178362) #
I am stunned that the unforgettable Joey McLaughlin does not appear in any of these suckiness rankings. Granted, others may have had worse seasons in a Blue Jay uniform, but I think one could argue that none have had the detrimental impact on a club's season that Joey had.
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