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In our June 10 interview with Keith Law, he didn't have much to say about the Jays' picks in the recently-completed amateur draft other than, "I could brag about all of them, but I think most teams would say the same about their own selections." This was understandable restraint, as cynics would jump on any raves that appeared self-congratulatory, but we thought you might enjoy an impartial expert opinion. Following the lead of our friend Aaron Gleeman, who invited Derek Welvang of The Prospect Report to discuss the Twins' draft on his blog, we are delighted to present the following insights to Batter's Box readers. Welvang modestly calls this "a brief (sometimes pretty much non-existent) description of all of the Jays picks this year, largely sans analysis," and promises a more analytical Jays feature "in the near to mid future" on his site. Derek, on behalf of the whole ZLC, thank you very much. We can't wait. -Kent

by Derek Welvang

Toronto had a great draft last year and a pretty good one this year. Really, my only serious qualm with what they did is with their first pick Aaron Hill. He's a good ballplayer, but I wouldn't have taken him at 13. They centered on college players (first 28 picks, if you count a JUCO guy) and pitchers (two-thirds of all selections, 11 of first 14). The first few hitters they took were performance guys with good plate discipline, followed by a mix of hitter types. As for pitchers, the stereotypical Toronto pitcher selection in this draft would be: a guy with a medium frame, who is either short or average in height, has average stuff and good control, and tends to hit batters (which is a proxy for either lack of control or, in this case, a willingness to pitch inside). Incidentally, this is a player type I like - physical enough so as not to preclude success, skilled enough to get outs.

#1 (13th overall) | Aaron Hill | SS | Louisiana State | R-R | 5-11, 195 | 3/21/82
(265 AB; .358/.466/.592, 9 HR, 67 RBI, 9 SB, 47 BB, 21 SO)

Hill is the only shortstop the Blue Jays tabbed in the draft. I'm marginally disappointed in this pick - not because Hill is bad - rather, I think that the Jays could have done better. It's fashionable in some quarters to call Hill another Khalil Greene (both polished college middle infielders with big numbers and adequate tools) - however, I'd say that a far better comp is another LSU shortstop who put up big numbers and went in the first round, though it was thought that he might have to move to third someday … Russ Johnson.

Incidentally, LSU has a tremendous track record of putting out middle infielders - Todd Walker was Johnson's double play partner - they were followed by Warren Morris and the criminally under-respected Jason Williams, Brandon Larson, Mike Fontenot, and so on.

I'm not convinced that Hill would slot into the top half of that group, as far as college performance is concerned. He's a little more athletic than they were, on average … but I have faith that the Blue Jays can identify players with 90% of the talent of Hill (say, a Mike Rouse) in a later round, reserving this pick for a player with a higher ceiling.

Oh yeah, what he does. Hill has gap power (27 doubles), solid plate discipline, a plus arm, and good hand eye coordination, enabling him to be a steady fielder on the left-hand side of the diamond. His quickness is iffy for short - don't be surprised if he eventually ends up at second or third.

#2 (50th overall) | Josh Banks | RHP | Florida International | R-R | 6-3, 195 | 7/18/82
(8-3 3.50 ERA; 17 G, 15 GS, 1 CG, 105.1 IP, 95 H, 12 HR, 25 BB, 114 SO)

Banks is a talented pitcher who had a slightly disappointing junior season. He throws 4 pitches from a 7/8 slot - a low 90s fastball with so-so downward movement, a plus splitter and breaking ball, and an adequate change that could become an average or better pitch. He repeats his delivery well, has solid command of all four pitches, works quickly, and looks durable. He also pitched well on the Cape (4-1 2.05 in 44 IP, 14 BB and 48 SO - the league ERA was 2.51) and could quickly move to AA. That homer rate is a little troubling and he has had problems with blisters this year.

#3 (80th overall) | Shaun Marcum | RHP | SW Missouri State | R-R | 6-1, 180 | 12/14/81
(1-4 2.51 ERA; 23 G, 13 SV, 43 IP, 34 H, 3 HR, 13 BB, 54 SO)

This year's David Bush, a reliever that will (likely) get a shot at the rotation. The undersized righty has two plus pitches - a 90-mph fastball and tight slider - as well as an average curve and decent change from a 3/4 slot. His control is great as are his K rates - this includes his performance on the Cape, where he went 4-1 1.48 in 24.1 IP, with 4 BB and 31 SO. He's athletic (doubled as the Bears' SS) and his mechanics are sound.

#4 (110th overall) | Kurt Isenberg | LHP | James Madison | R-L | 6-0, 185 | 1/15/82
(8-8 5.85 ERA; 17 G, 14 GS, 97 IP, 116 H, 7 HR, 42 BB, 97 SO)

I'm not thrilled with this pick. It's not bad - Isenberg is a better pitcher than his ERA suggests (decent peripherals and stuff), but the Jays could have done better. Another college two-way guy, he has a low 90s fastball (not bad for a lefty), curve, and change - all of which occasionally look like solid pitches. He's not afraid to work inside (15 HBP on the season) and was okay on the Cape (0-1 3.03 ERA in 35.2 IP, with 9 BB and 32 SO).

#5 (140th overall) | Justin James | RHP | Missouri | R-R | 6-3, 215 | 9/13/81
(7-6 4.03; 17 G, 17 GS, 114 IP, 116 H, 14 HR, 26 BB, 92 SO)

James is a lot like Banks, but with a little better body and a little less stuff and polish. He has three slightly better than average pitches: a 90-mph fastball, change, and curve. He works quickly, throws strikes, and likes to work inside (10 HBP). He looks like he knows what he's doing, though BA reports that he lacks deception (which could explain the high HR totals), but the Jays can work with him on that. He was adequate on the Cape last year (1-1 4.33 in 35.1 IP, with 10 BB and 21 SO) and lousy as a freshman (7.16 ERA). A draft-eligible sophomore, James was a 6th round choice of the Red Sox out of high school.

Who else did the Jays take?


Joey Reiman (16) is a Scott Hemond type who hit .395 with gap power and 20 steals for Grand Canyon (D2). He threw out a third of opposing runners, but doesn't block the ball that well. I kind of like Joey Wolfe (33). He hit .338/.440/.498 for Louisiana-Lafayette (36 BB/22 SO in 207 AB), has an average arm and good defensive reputation. Jeremy Knicely (42) hit well (.380/.494/.620) for Longwood (Michael Tucker's alma mater), but could use work defensively. He's an academic All-American.

First Base

Vito Chiaravalotti (15) is a bit of a sleeper. He had an exceptional sophomore season (.357/.465/.727 in 238 AB, 23 HR, 50 BB, 50 SO) followed by a mediocre junior year (.306/.398/.528 in 229 AB, 34 BB, 37 SO). He takes vicious, all-or-nothing swings at the plate and might be a better defender in an outfield corner than at first. Jim Burt (35) is a good fielding first baseman who had a decent season for Miami (.296/.385/.500 in 226 AB, 31 BB, 30 SO). If he doesn't sign, Toronto will control his rights as a fifth-year senior. Oh, he's the son of former NFL'er Jim Burt. Paul Franko (45) was a high school teammate of Brandon Wood and pitcher Matt Trink (36).

Second Base

Jeremy Acey (23) tore up the California JUCO ranks, hitting .497/.550/.789, stealing bases, posting a solid W/K ratio, and is considered a slick fielder - but was older than the competition at 22. Brian Patrick (25) is more of a utility man, having spent a lot of time in the outfield in college. He hit .329/.393/.505 in 210 AB with 21 BB and 25 SO and has a strong arm (has hit 90 off the mound). I'd like to see Snavely (6) move here.

Third Base

The Jays picked up a pair of on-base oriented college guys, UT-Arlington's Ryan Roberts (18) and Rutgers' Vinny Esposito (22) - neither of whom has gotten much attention as a prospect. Roberts (.422/.514/.765) is the better of the two and a potential sleeper - the Southland player of the year's performance at the plate compares well with recent Reds draftee Mark Schmarek, though Roberts is less toolsy and lacks Schmarek's glove. Esposito hit .328/.448/.488 in 201 AB (42 BB, 40 SO), while fielding .911 and also has experience in the outfield. Both players have already signed. Also, Hill (1), Snavely (6), and Johnson (44) are considered possible future third basemen in some quarters.

Shortstop (see Aaron Hill)

Left Field

I have an admittedly irrational love for Ohio State's Christian Snavely (6). He's a very good hitter - posting college numbers (.335/.487/.665) that are comparable to those of his former teammate, Oakland's Nick Swisher. A decent athlete (though not as athletic as Swisher), he should have 15-20 homer power, with a solid average and good walk totals. The question is as to what position he'll play - he bounced all around the diamond in college, playing mostly second last year and this outfield this season. A weak arm probably will keep him from third or right in the bigs and he may not be quick enough to play second. In many ways, he's like Stetson's Brian Snyder, a first round pick this year who drew comparisons to Kevin Youkilis. Snavely's stock fell, in part, because of a prolonged slump to begin the season. Kyle Thousand (26) was Iowa's best player - a guy who hits for an okay average with some doubles and plus speed. He played center in college.

Center Field

Jayce Tingler (10) is this year's Steve Stanley. Teeny Tingler (5-7 153) does an outstanding job of getting on-base, has some speed, and is a solid fielder in center but has absolutely no power. He led the Cape Cod league with a .456 on base average and had a W/K ratio for the Tigers of 48/9, while hitting .395/.525/.488. Jack Ryser (38) has a little speed, a little bat (though shaky plate discipline), and is another utility guy (2b and cf, mainly). Brent Johnson (44) probably won't sign. He's a decent hitter with gap power, a strong arm, some speed, and the ability to play multiple positions (he started at third for UNLV this year). Expect him to be a first day pick next year.

Right Field

Patrick Breen (28) is a toolsy fourth outfielder type with respectable power who may or may not sign. Angel Hernandez (50) is a long shot to sign, but he has a nice frame, good power/defense potential, and an excellent arm. I'm unaware of any college commitment that he might have, but it's likely that he has one, as he lasted until the last round.


RHP Danny Core (7) had a solid college career for Florida Atlantic. He's a finesse guy who works with a moving high-80s fastball and above average curve. He had a good, though not fantastic, year, going 10-2 3.31 in 106 IP, with 91 H, 4 HR, 34 BB, 98 SO. He's not afraid to pitch inside (16 HBP). RHP Chad Mulholland (8), from SW Missouri State, is an underrated pitcher who turned into the Bears' best pitcher (10-3 2.98; 18 G, 15 GS, 4 CG, 111.2 IP, 96 H, 7 HR, 30 BB, 114 SO). He has a decent build, diverse repertoire, based around a 90 mph fastball that reportedly hit 95 and like, Core, hits a lot of guys (12 HBP). New Mexico RHP Jamie Vermilyea (9) is another good pick. He went 7-3 4.07 ERA in 119.1 IP, with 134 H, 13 HR, 24 BB, 105 SO - which is better than it sounds as the Lobos' home park is great for hitters. He has a good build, good stuff (90-mph fastball, splitter, and slider) and might add a little more velocity over time. Also, he went 1-3 1.63 in 27.2 IP with 8 BB and 35 SO in the Cape Cod League, co-closing with Stanford's Paul Hudgins.

RHP Tom Mastny (11) led the nation in ERA for Furman, going 11-2 1.09 in 124 IP, allowing 78 H, 22 BB, and striking out 103. He's tall (6-6), lanky and has three pitches - a 90 mph fastball that could stand to move a little more than it does, curve, and change. RHP Jayson Rodriguez (12) is a short, skinny guy from Indian River CC who's an interesting relief prospect. He uses a low 90s fastball and slider who, as a freshman for Seton Hall a year ago, went 1-0 3.86 in 16.1 IP with 19 H, 10 BB, and 17 SO. Navy's LHP Matt Foster (13) is one of the draft's more interesting stories. He might have gone higher, but a so-so senior year coupled with concerns about how he can fulfill his military commitment dropped his stock. He has good stuff - a low 90s fastball, solid change, and decent curve - along with a lanky and projectable body, but his approach needs refinement. He's signed - the rumor was that he'd split time between extended spring training and active duty until the beginning of 2005.

Like Chad Pleiness, VMI's 6-3 RHP Jeremy Harper (14) is a former college basketball player. Unlike Pleiness, he doesn't know how to pitch yet (3-9 7.51), though he's a decent thrower, showing a 90 mph fastball, curve, and change. Amusingly, he allowed 30 steals in 74.1 IP. RHP Jordy Templet (17) was solid but unexceptional for Louisiana Lafayette (6-5 4.02; 96.1 IP, 93 H, 5 HR, 30 BB, 83 SO). He's a diminutive righty and another former shortstop, whose main pitch is an 88 mph fastball. RHP Adrian Martin (19), Toronto's first high school selection, is a fairly polished, though undersized, righty with an 88-mph fastball and solid curve. In his first 42 innings this season, he allowed 5 walks while striking out 71. He's also a decent prospect at short, but his future is on the mound. RHP Brad Depoy (20) is Toronto's biggest signability question. He's got a 90-mph fastball, plus slider, and mound bulldog-ery. He's also got a deal at the University of Houston.

I'm a little surprised that RHP Mark Sopko (21) left Arizona State for the Jays. He's an undersized righty with a low 90s fastball and solid breaking ball who pitched well this year (3-2 2.30 in 54.2 IP as a spot starter, 52 H, 2 HR, 13 BB, 43 SO). He's a groundballer and yet another guy with high HBP totals (9). He projects as a setup man. RHP Nick Evanglista (24) pitched well for Pittsburgh, going 8-5 3.32 in 89.1 IP, 20 BB, 76 SO and has decent control and stuff, but a bad body. He throws in the upper 80s. RHP Brian Reed (27) led the SEC in ERA a year ago as a co-closer for Alabama, but wasn't as effective this year, positing a 4.07 ERA (along with 12 saves), while allowing a hit an inning. LHP Chris Nieto (29) went 8-3 2.05 in 87.2 IP with 31 BB and 87 SO for Riverside CC. He's yet another guy who hits a lot of batters (9 HBP, 1 WP).

RHP Billy Wheeler (30) from South Suburban JC (IL) has a low to mid 90s fastball. RHP Joaquin Canizal (31), aka "Kike", went 4-3 2.73 in 69.1 IP, with 55 H, 2 HR, 22 BB, 65 SO for Union, in Kentucky. Okay - I don't know either of those guys. But, I do know LHP Brad Mumma (33). He's a good value for the round, a senior from Western Michigan who went 6-4 3.27 in 85.1 IP, 76 H, 2 HR, 35 BB, 79 SO - this last figure led the conference - and allowed few extra base hits last season. His stuff is decent, working with a high 80s fastball and plus curve. He has a big, durable build, but was worked very hard this season, including a stretch of seven (!) consecutive complete games.

RHP Jeremy Noegel (34) was a Division 2 All-American as West Florida's closer. He operates with only a mid 80s fastball and offspeed stuff, but went 3-3 1.72 10 SV in 47 IP with 11 BB and 77 SO. Prep RHP Matt Trink (36) is a good pitcher and has an upper 80s fastball, changeup, and curve - along with the ever important "p's" (pitchability and projectability). LHP Aric Van Gaalen's (37) name ought to sound familiar to Jays fans, they've picked him before. He's tall, lanky, and has room to improve - both physically and in terms of polish. He throws your standard fastball/curve/change assortment and could throw hard one day. LHP William Blackmon (39), a Texas A&M recruit, is tall and has been on of the better prep pitchers in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area the last two years. By contrast, Spartanburg Methodist JC's LHP Jimmy Coker (40) is another Jays' small pitcher. He went 4-2 1.66 in 48.2 IP with 41 H, 3 HR, 14 BB, and 55 SO - though only 9 of his 19 runs allowed were earned after a prep career where he was twice all-state. His main pitch is a moving high 80s fastball, but his command comes and goes. The O-Dog is among the school's alums.

RHP Scott Tolbert (41) will probably not sign. He had the best season of anyone on Georgia Southern's all prospect staff, going 7-2 3.03 in 68.1 IP with 49 H, 4 HR, 33 BB, SO, working with a low-to-mid 90s fastball and above average slider. I think that LHP Ryan Gordon (43) was an excellent pick - though I'm biased as he's from my alma mater (UNC Greensboro). Named a first team All-American by Collegiate Baseball, as a DH/LHP, Gordon is slowly returning to pitching after Tommy John surgery two years ago. The small (6-0) lefty mixed high 80s fastball, curve, and change to the tune of 4-2 2.59 in 59 IP, with 21 BB and 55 SO. He also hit .416/.473/.610 with good steal numbers. If he doesn't sign, Toronto will control his rights until the next draft (another reason this is a nice pick).

Ahhh… people I know nearly nothing about. I'm sure that there are people on this board who know more about RHP Paul Marlow than I do; he's from Elgin Park HS in British Columbia. I'm also sure that there are people who know things about lefty juco pitchers LHP Jeff Walker (47) and Bryan Hansen (48). Feel free to tell the world about them. RHP Michael Rider (49) went 2-2 2.41 6 SV in 33.2 IP with 10 BB and 38 SO for Consumnes River JC, posting a lower ERA than his teammate Nick Pesco, who signed a seven-figure deal with Cleveland.
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robertdudek - Wednesday, June 18 2003 @ 09:04 AM EDT (#22909) #
Jayce Tingler sounds a bit like John Cangelosi, perhaps without quite as much speed.
_Spicol - Wednesday, June 18 2003 @ 10:06 AM EDT (#22910) #
Great stuff Derek.

If Jimmy Coker makes it to the Show, would be only the second person named “Coker” to ever play Major League Baseball. Having lived through the 80’s, I would have thought there were more.

Billy Wheeler's full first name is William and he's 5'9. So, his name is Wee Willie Wheeler. Neat.
Pistol - Wednesday, June 18 2003 @ 10:17 AM EDT (#22911) #
Excellent overview, I can't believe this is the short version. I also can't believe someone knows that much about players taken that low in the draft. Nice job Derek.

And this was a great idea to have for the site...

Russ Adams was called up to New Haven according to the Raven's website. Jorge Sequea was promoted to Triple-A Syracuse. Click on my name for details.
_Spicol - Wednesday, June 18 2003 @ 10:27 AM EDT (#22912) #
I'm also sure that there are people who know things about Bryan Hansen (48)...and Michael Rider (49)

Here's Hansen.

Looks scared doesn't he? Like Aric Van Gaalen, Bryan was drafted by the Jays last year as well, in the 38th round.

Michael Rider has also been drafted the 37th round by Tampa in 2001.
_Jordan - Wednesday, June 18 2003 @ 10:33 AM EDT (#22913) #
This is just an amazing breakdown and analysis. Count me among those who can't wait to see what a detailed article looks like. Very much appreciated, Derek!
Coach - Wednesday, June 18 2003 @ 10:34 AM EDT (#22914) #
a great idea to have for the site...

Well, it wasn't mine. BB readers should thank Aaron Gleeman by visiting his site, which is going to reach a significant milestone any minute now -- 100,000 hits. Kudos to the prodigy. :)

On the first day of the draft, we got an astounding 129 comments in that thread, and a record number of hits (well over 1,500) in Da Box. So it wasn't hard to convince Derek that there would be an appreciative audience here for his expertise. I fattened my BBA that day by hanging around for a few hours, and signed off by saying the pickings were getting slim when the Jays took Harper 14th. Derek's comments suggest that was a high-upside, if risky choice, and obviously, there were a few interesting sleepers still on the Jays' board, plus some excellent draft-and-follow candidates, including the two Canadians.

Good one, Spicol. Wee Willie Wheeler towers over Tiny Tingler. To the J.P. Jays, size doesn't matter.
_Matthew Elmslie - Wednesday, June 18 2003 @ 11:10 AM EDT (#22915) #
I'd like to see Jeremy Acey pitching against Rob Ducey.
_Brent - Wednesday, June 18 2003 @ 11:38 AM EDT (#22916) #
Some good news today. The Jays just signed Aaron Hill today to a $1.675 million deal. That seems to fall in line with the other 1st round picks. Aubrey recieved $2.01 million from Cleveland (who was picked two selections before Hill) and Wagner got a $1.4 million deal from Cincy (one pick after Hill).
_Jay - Wednesday, June 18 2003 @ 12:07 PM EDT (#22917) #
So does Aaron Hill now move directly to Dunedin to take Adams' old spot or do they start him at Low-A like they did Russ last year? I would like to think that a polished College player fresh off the College World Series could start in High-A but then again that may be pushing it a bit.
_Jordan - Wednesday, June 18 2003 @ 12:15 PM EDT (#22918) #
The signing deal, negotiated by IMG Baseball from Florida, includes $20,000 to complete his degree at LSU.

What, does he have, like, two credits left? That's pretty much all that $20K will buy him at LSU by the time his career is over. Well, I'm sure it was the principle of the thing. IMG -- I wasn't aware those guys were into baseball. Their Website focuses on football and tennis players, and the occasional hockey player. Maybe this is a growth area for them.

Hill seems like a solid kid. I'm looking forward to his Auburn debut.
Pistol - Wednesday, June 18 2003 @ 01:22 PM EDT (#22919) #
Hill said he will leave Baton Rouge for Auburn, N.Y., on Thursday for his first assignment with Toronto's Class A team in the New York-Penn League.

The $20,000 for finishing up at LSU is probably the tuition for 2 semesters of school. LSU is a state school so the tuition isn't quite like it would be at a private school (and less if you're a state resident).

Derek thought that the Hill pick was a reach, but I'd have been interested in seeing who he would have taken in that spot instead (Sullivan? Murphy?). The other thing regarding the comments about other players with higher ceilings is that I believe the Jays preference would be to take a lower risk player even if his ceiling wasn't as high.

Personally, I would have taken Sullivan in Round 1, but I had ranked Hill as the #2 college hitter going into the draft (granted, I don't know much about college baseball) so I'm highly satisfied with the pick.
Gitz - Wednesday, June 18 2003 @ 04:04 PM EDT (#22920) #
It's been obliquely mentioned, but has anyone heard a satisfactory reason why the Jays passed on Brad Sullivan? Hill's college numbers, while good, certainly weren't overwhelming, and they don't reveal the upside one would expect from a first-round pick. Sullivan, on the other hand, could be something special, whereas Hill, it seems, is looking at a Todd-Walker type career.
_Jurgen - Wednesday, June 18 2003 @ 04:38 PM EDT (#22921) #
whereas Hill, it seems, is looking at a Todd-Walker type career

Your point is well taken, as I also expected Toronto to nab Sullivan if he was still available. (Was this some kind of side deal between J.P. and Billy for that "player to be named later"?) But that said... you think Minnesota wouldn't kill to have Todd Walker back?
_jason - Wednesday, June 18 2003 @ 04:45 PM EDT (#22922) #
I think Minnesota might even kill to have Chuck Knoblauch back.
Pepper Moffatt - Wednesday, June 18 2003 @ 04:49 PM EDT (#22923) #
I think Minnesota might even kill to have Chuck Knoblauch back.

What's Tim Teufel upto these days?

Gitz - Wednesday, June 18 2003 @ 04:50 PM EDT (#22924) #
The "Todd-Walker-career path" was, believe it or not, a compliment to Walker, and a rather vague rip on Tom Kelly for not appreciating what he had. Just because he never developed into a superstar, Walker is deemed as something of a failure, which is nonsense; Walker is a quality big-league hitter who, as Jurgen says, would represent a massive upgrade to the under-developed Luis Rivas.

But he hasn't really justified his high-draft status (wasn't he #8 overall?), and, while Walker still has value as a hitter, I think Jays fans would expect something more from Hill than a poor-fielding second baseman with average power and a good, but not great, batting eye.
Gitz - Wednesday, June 18 2003 @ 04:51 PM EDT (#22925) #
Let's not forget Steve Lombardozzi ...
_Curious George - Wednesday, June 18 2003 @ 05:05 PM EDT (#22926) #
One thing going for Aaron Hill is that his stats were supposedly hurt by both his home park and opposing schedule.
_Eric C - Wednesday, June 18 2003 @ 06:41 PM EDT (#22927) #
It's been obliquely mentioned, but has anyone heard a satisfactory reason why the Jays passed on Brad Sullivan?

I heard that when J.P. when to scout Sullivan, apparrently he only hit 85 mph on the radar gun at the later stages of the game. That could have been injury or fatigue, but Sullivan did struggle later on in the college season for the Cougars.
_Eric C - Wednesday, June 18 2003 @ 06:45 PM EDT (#22928) #
Oh and does anyone know if Snavely will start as an outfielder, or as a second basemen? I'm intruiged by him, especially with Derek's descritpion:

He's a very good hitter - posting college numbers (.335/.487/.665) that are comparable to those of his former teammate, Oakland's Nick Swisher. A decent athlete (though not as athletic as Swisher), he should have 15-20 homer power, with a solid average and good walk totals.

I know Todd Walker has been mentioned already, but sounds a lot like Walker, maybe less average and more power. I hope the Jays do try him at second or even third, because of a logjam in the outfield already and a good-hitting second basemen is hard to find.
_DW - Wednesday, June 18 2003 @ 08:15 PM EDT (#22929) #
Hey, hope you enjoyed the article - thanks for taking the time to read it. A few notes and responses:

1) Probably unnecessary clarification: is Chris Reed's site - I'm just a lowly content provider. Also, I may have misled Kent in describing the future Jays article there: it will be more analytical (opinionated) than this one, but far shorter.

2) I like the Tingler/slower Cangelosi parallel, though Tingler is much better at making contact and should (presuming he develops) hit for a higher average.

3) The Jays announced Snavely as an OF - so I guess that's where he'll play. I'd stick him at second and I have heard third from at least one source.

4) Who would I pick instead of Hill? Sadly, 13th wasn't a great slot this year (I'd have selected Aubrey (11) or Milledge (12) before anyone remaining on the board). I would have first pursued a pre-draft deal with one of the following players (Conor Jackson, Ryan Wagner, Brad Sullivan, Brandon Wood and Brian Snyder - terms depending on the player), using the savings to select some one who fell for signability reasons in a later round. That probably wouldn't have worked. I would have then targeted Sullivan and, if I could get a favorable health report, selected him. Should I be unable to that, I'd look at the previously mentioned players plus Hill (who, presumably, would have rejected a pre-draft deal out of hand) and Jeff Allison (a prep righty - but the best arm in the draft).
_R Billie - Thursday, June 19 2003 @ 03:20 AM EDT (#22930) #
A prep pitcher in the first round is the last thing you'll ever see from the Jays as long as JP runs things. Though I could be wrong. Even Oakland chose Bonderman (and subsequently traded him).
_DW - Thursday, June 19 2003 @ 10:53 PM EDT (#22931) #
"A prep pitcher in the first round is the last thing you'll ever see from the Jays as long as JP runs things."

Also, a correction - Nick Pesco's bonus was 500K, not "seven figures" - which doesn't matter to Toronto fans anyway...
_Eric C - Friday, June 20 2003 @ 05:11 PM EDT (#22932) #
To anyone who cares, Aaron Hill made first team all-american, and Tom Mastny of Furman, as well as Ryan Gordon made third team all-americans. Gordon made it in the UT position, so he can hit (.416 5 50) and pitch. What are the chances of the Jays signing him?
_Eric C - Friday, June 20 2003 @ 05:13 PM EDT (#22933) #
To anyone who cares, Aaron Hill made Baseball America's first team all-american, and Tom Mastny of Furman, as well as Ryan Gordon made third team all-americans. Gordon made it in the UT position, so he can hit (.416 5 50) and pitch. What are the chances of the Jays signing him?
_James - Wednesday, October 08 2003 @ 07:46 PM EDT (#22934) #
All I have too say is... I think in the draft Brad Mumma should have been picked in about the 8th round, not 32nd and received a lot more money than he did. He's a good pitcher. I hope his shouder heals for next year so he can show what he can do.
_Jabonoso - Thursday, October 09 2003 @ 01:27 PM EDT (#22935) #
Does anyone has the link or an update to BJ's signings for the whole draft? i remember a remarkable rate for the first 20, but somehow the last two dozens are blurry...
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