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Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Hell, no!

Game tonight. Got to play it, might as well win it.
17 April 2007: What's All This Lying Around... | 28 comments | Create New Account
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Paul D - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 09:28 AM EDT (#166001) #
Speaking of tonight's game.... I'm going to be there, and I'm going to be sitting with my friend, the activities manager of an English as a Second Language College, and 148 Japanese Dice K fans.   I was wondering, does anyone have any good-natured cheers/jeers?   I'm trying to figure out a cheer/chant that might involve rolling the Dice or something like that.  And I may tell Manny that he's a dirty hippie who needs a haircut.   I've also got "Going Going Zaun" ready.  Any other suggestions?
jeff mcl - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 10:48 AM EDT (#166007) #
It's too bad Matsuzaka didn't know English or crude 1980s American shock comdedians well enough to give himself the nickname "the Dice Man"  instead of Dice-K, but what can you do? 

I hope we get to see some of these Japanese happi coats at tonight's game: http://www.yakyushop.net/search.php  Since we have Tomo Ohka, the Jays should be making their own licensed version to cash in on the Tomo-mania fad while it still lasts.

My prediction:  Dice-K will make Hollywood Wells look silly swinging at pitches both at eye level and in the dirt, but I have a weird feeling that Adam Lind will get a pair of key knocks.  Chacin contains Ortiz and Drew before turning it over to the competant bullpen in the 6th.  Jays 5-4.

Paul D - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 10:53 AM EDT (#166009) #

It's too bad Matsuzaka didn't know English or crude 1980s American shock comdedians well enough to give himself the nickname "the Dice Man"  instead of Dice-K, but what can you do? 

Well Dice-K isn't really a nickname, it's how Daisuke is pronounced.

Joanna - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 11:14 AM EDT (#166012) #
I had a strange dream last night that Adam Lind took Dice-K deep and won the game.  I was in the stands and Boston fans were very, very angry.  But the right field wall was very short, so I think it was a Fenway in my subconcious.  It smelled like beer and urine.  It must've been Fenway.
Flex - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 11:19 AM EDT (#166013) #
Sorry to be thick — I can usually pick up the whiff of humour — but the reference to the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor ... that's a joke, right?

With the state of education today, there are some reading this who won't know it.
Ryan C - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 11:23 AM EDT (#166014) #

Well Dice-K isn't really a nickname, it's how Daisuke is pronounced.

Is it?  I have no training in pronounciation of Japanese names, but I always thought it was "Dye-Sue-Kay". 

VBF - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 11:25 AM EDT (#166015) #
And I may tell Manny that he's a dirty hippie who needs a haircut.

"
Maaaaannnnnny.....theres a spider on your head..."

*J.D. Drew steps up to the plate*

"Naaaaaannnnnnccccccyyyy"

*David Ortiz steps up to the plate*

"Ooooooooppppprrrraaaaaaah"


I will be in attendance with a sign relating Matsuzaka to a popular cereal which may or may not include an enormous red K.
Paul D - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 11:33 AM EDT (#166016) #

Is it?  I have no training in pronounciation of Japanese names, but I always thought it was "Dye-Sue-Kay". 

I'm assured by my Japanese friends that Dice K is the pronunciation.   Someone at primer related a who's on first type story concerning his conversation with his Japanese secretary.

"So how do you pronounce the first name of the new Boston pitcher" - Him
"Dice K" Her
"Yeah, him, the one they just signed " - Him
"Dice K" Her
"Right, how do you pronounce Dice K's name?" Him
"Dice K" Her
"No, how do you... wait, it's Dice K?" Him

Dr. Zarco - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 12:13 PM EDT (#166017) #
Flex, it's not obvious humor, it's a movie quote.  It's from Animal House, and John Belushi is giving a big pump-up rally-type speech and he says "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?   Hell no!" 

Magpie uses many quotes that I don't understand (I promise I will not make reference to Magpie's age!), but I got this one. 

Noah - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 12:19 PM EDT (#166019) #
yah I also will be at this game, chatting it up with the Jays bullpen.  Im sitting first row right behind the pen, maybe i'll provide some confidence boost to Frasor before he enters in the 9th to win the game!
Jdog - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 01:49 PM EDT (#166022) #

Are you sure the quote is from Animal house?? If it is, it must have also been used in a more recent movie, cause i immediately recognized it as a movie quote, but have never seen Animal house

rpriske - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 02:01 PM EDT (#166023) #
It is definitely from Animal House.
Mylegacy - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 02:03 PM EDT (#166024) #

The answer is revealed:

Animal House
written by Douglas Kenney, Chris Miller, & Harold Ramis

D-Day (Bruce McGill): War's over, man. Wormer dropped the big one.
Bluto: Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
Otter (Tim Matheson): [whispering] Germans?
Boon (Peter Riegert): Forget it, he's rolling.
Bluto: And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough... [thinks hard] the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go! [runs out, alone; then returns] What the fuck happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer -
Otter: Dead! Bluto's right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part.
Bluto: We're just the guys to do it.
D-Day: Let's do it.
Bluto: LET'S DO IT!!
[Chaos ensues--for most of the rest of the movie]
#2JBrumfield - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 02:23 PM EDT (#166025) #

Here's the video clip if you want further proof. 

Warning - Contains scenes of coarse language.  Yes, this is a CMA disclaimer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K92OVFeGgIE

Mylegacy - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 02:25 PM EDT (#166026) #

Reading between the lines the following quote about Ryan, by Ricciardi, from the Star, is not particularly rosy...

"The worst-case scenario would have been he had a complete tear of his elbow and needed the (Tommy John) surgery, but he didn't. So that's good news," Ricciardi said. "Now, hopefully, we'll be able to get him back."

..."but he didn't"...does this mean he (has), (could have), (might have), a partial tear?

actionjackson - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 02:28 PM EDT (#166027) #
Thanks Magpie for the great movie quote. Seriously, did anyone think there would be no injuries or difficulties and the team was just going to roll through the season. To Magpie's quote I would add Tom Hanks': "There's no crying in baseball" quote. A little perspective people. Look at the Yankees. That's an injury disaster. When your injuries cluster all in one place on the roster it's "devastating" or "The Season From Hell Part 2". This is a challenge, but it's not Andy Pettitte, Kei Igawa, Darrell Rasner, Chase Wright and ????? as your starting rotation. The Yankees can probably still stay afloat with their offense that is only missing Hideki Matsui. It's gut check time and all the rest of those blah-blah cliches.

I really hope J.P. is working the phones hard for a solution to the crappy left side of the infield and the crappy backup outfielder, and the generally (expletive deleted) bench. He did a great job with the pitching depth in the offseason, why oh why did he turn a blind eye to the backup position players? Hopefully there's time to correct it and at least it's not pitching that he needs, at the moment. The price for pitchers on the trade market is almost as crazy as the free agent market these days. I would really like to see a fourth OF that can play all 3 spots and play them well defensively and hopefully hit enough to not be a sinkhole. Are Vernon and Alexis supposed to play every inning from here on out? That would be ridiculous, yet I don't want to see a Lind/Wells/Stairs alignment or a Lind/Rios/Stairs alignment. Can Duncan or Lydon play all 3 positions well? I guess they wouldn't be career minor leaguers if they could hit consistently.

I still like the team overall, but that bench must improve yesterday. Jason Smith is the only one I have any faith in and he was a Rule V pick. The bullpen will be fine and the starting LF job is in good hands. Get going already J.P..

ahitisahit - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 02:30 PM EDT (#166028) #
The Jays need 2/3. They owned the Sox last year, but seemed to pee their pants against the Yankees. I'm hoping Chacin can go 5 or 6.
Paul D - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 02:34 PM EDT (#166029) #
Interesting, I could have sworn that quote was from a Will Farell movie, maybe <i>Anchorman</i>
Maldoff - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 02:47 PM EDT (#166032) #

From Jon Heyman at SI.com:

"It's too early to say it's a concern, but Roy Halladay's fastball was clocked in the 89-90 range in his most recent outing. That didn't stop him from limiting the Tigers to one run over 10 innings in a 2-1 victory."

Mylegacy - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 02:53 PM EDT (#166034) #

Under the dome, into the glare of ten thousand Japanese flashbulbs, Chacin walked out and calmly strode to the mound. His hat pulled down, his signature sunglasses reflecting the symphony of light put up by the eastern paparazzi. He threw down the rosen bag and pointing at the Sox bench, his finger stabbing the air, spittle flying from his latin lips, he shouted, "Jew wan' a piece of me? Well, get jour sorry hasses out here so I can send youse all to h*ll!'

... and then I wake up...and then I don't feel quite as optimistic...but almost!

Play ball! 

VBF - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 02:54 PM EDT (#166035) #

..."but he didn't"...does this mean he (has), (could have), (might have), a partial tear?


Sorry MyLegacy, but thats way too much over-analysis. JP is saying that the worst case scenario was that he had a tear, but that this isn't the worst case scenario, which means that he doesn't have a tear.

My only question I could ask from that quote is, how increased is his chance at having a tear now that he's hurt his elbow a bit? But clearly from the quote, B.J. Ryan does not have a tear.

In conclusion, no tear.
Mylegacy - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 03:01 PM EDT (#166036) #

Sorry MyLegacy, but thats way too much over-analysis. JP is saying that the worst case scenario was that he had a tear, but that this isn't the worst case scenario, which means that he doesn't have a tear.

VBF, actually what JP said was he "didn't have a COMPLETE tear..." With all due respect, my paranoia still stands as a possibility, your elegant rebuttal notwithstanding.

portnoy - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 03:11 PM EDT (#166037) #
Will Carroll points out today that a sprain is always a tear, although perhaps a mild one.  The article's free:

http://baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6110

Lefty - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 05:22 PM EDT (#166046) #
If you were a regular particpant in game chat you may have heard me use it about three times last season. Each time creating quite a fun stir. I like to think that Magpie liked it so much he would popularize this fantastic slogan.
Magpie - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 06:13 PM EDT (#166048) #
"Animal House" was easy. But...

Got to play it, might as well win it.

That's the other quote. A little obscure?
Magpie - Tuesday, April 17 2007 @ 06:28 PM EDT (#166051) #
I suppose it's very obscure, so I'll give it up right now.

It's from Ken Dryden's utterly marvellous book, "The Game," which I don't have handy but recapping from memory...

The mighty Canadiens are in their dressing room, trying to get psyched up to play the not-so-mighty (as they then were) Red Wings. It's not exactly working. Someone says "Come on, guys, get serious!" and someone else says "Division game, guys! Four-pointer!"

To which someone (probably Shutt) cracks "Oh God, if we lose, they'll only be 41 points behind us." Silence, boredom ensures..

Finally someone (might have been Robinson) finally says "What the hell. Got to play it. Might as well win it."

So that's what they did.

daryn - Wednesday, April 18 2007 @ 04:02 PM EDT (#166116) #

I think the Jays chances are really good this year.   I'm liking the rotation, I think we have lots of Middle IF's and Vernon and Alex are looking great... two OF All-Stars maybe?

I'm only seeing a couple problems... we just got 4 OF's and one of them is Matt Stairs, that scares me... and Frank doesn't even have a glove anymore, so there's no insurance for big bats on the corners, who have we got, MacDonald or Smith to backup 3rd?..... I like the bullpen but there is no obvious vetran depth after BJ Ryan...

So as long as we are injury free with BJ, the corner guys and the OF, I like the way... pardon me?... who?... him too?? oh my...

ummm... never mind...

daryn - Wednesday, April 18 2007 @ 04:04 PM EDT (#166117) #

P.S.

GET WELL SOON BLUE JAYS!!!!

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