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Painful as this is to write, it looks like the Red Sox are likely to be World Series champs -- maybe as early as tonight -- for the second in four years. So much for the idea of a "curse" ... though to be fair, if any team knows the frailty of a 3-0 post-season series lead, it's the Sox (and Yankees, of course).

Still, with all due respect to Josh Beckett and even Daisuke Matsuzaka, the guy the Sox have ridden this far (emotionally anyway) is the old war horse himself, Curt Schilling. A likely future Hall of Famer, Schill is also probably the greatest "Curt" (or even "Kurt") to play in the major leagues ... or is he? Let's find out in this latest installment of Baseball's Hall of Names ...


A few rules to start ...

First, though we will consider players named both "Curt" and "Kurt" for this team, we will not allow middle names (like the fine RHSP Lawrence Curtis "Larry" Jackson, a five-time All-Star), nor will we allow last/family names (there have been 11 major leaguers with the last name Curtis, as well as one Curtright and one Kurtz; none are eligible) ... Well, we will make one exception to that first rule, as the middle-named John Curtis "Jack" Chapman is the only Curt/Kurt to have managed in the big leagues to date ...

And we will also allow certain exceptions to that second rule, like William Curtis "Curt" Walker -- but only if the player made the tasteful decision to go by "Curt" ... On the other side of that, players who had the given first name Curtis are acceptable, even if they officially went by the extended version of the name, like OF Curtis Granderson ... No Kirks are allowed, even though they appear in the BaseballReference.com search returns for "Kurt," and guys like SP Kirk McCaskill, OF/DH Kirk Gibson and CL Randall Kirk Myers would be locks to make this team, if eligible ... Any way, here we go; it's time to meet a team that's bound to be ...

TAKING A CURT'N CALL
** indicates Hall of Famer (none yet)
* indicates All-Star

MGR John Curtis "Jack" Chapman (351-502, parts of 1876-92)

LINEUP
C Kurt Suzuki (.249 as 2007 OAK rookie)
1B Curt Blefary (mostly OF; '65 AL ROY, .237, 112 HR, 1965-72)
2B Curt Welch (.263, 453 SB, 1884-93; mostly OF, 36 games at 2B)
SS Kurt Stillwell* (.249, 1986-93, '96; 1988 AS with KCR)
3B Kurt Bevacqua (.236, 1971-85)
LF Curtis Granderson (.302, 23 HR, 26 SB in 2007)
CF Curt Flood* (.293 in 15 years; seven Gold Gloves)
RF Curt Walker (.304, 1919-30)
DH Curt Ford (.245, 1985-90)

BENCH
C/1B Curtis Thigpen (.238 as 2007 TOR rookie)
SS/2B/3B Curtis Wilkerson (.245, 1983-93)
SS/UTIL Kurt Abbott (.256, 1993-2001, did all but P, C)
OF Curtis Pride (.250, 1993-2006)
2B Curt Roberts (.232 as starting rookie with '54 PIT; .223 career '54-56)
OF Curtis Goodwin (.248, 1995-99)

ROTATION
RHSP Curt Schilling* (216-146 through 2007)
LHSP Curt Simmons* (193-183, 1947-67 except '51 in military)
RHSP Curt Davis* (158-131, 1934-46, 10+ wins 11 times)
LHSP Curt Young (69-53, 1983-93)
RHSP Kurt Kepshire (16-15, 1984-86)

BULLPEN
CL-RH Curt Leskanic (50-34, 55 saves, 1993-2004)
LHRP Kurt Birkins (6-4 with BAL since 2006)
RHRP Curtis King (6-2, 2 saves, 1997-99)
LH-LONG Curt Wardle (8-9, 1984-85)
RH-LONG Curt Barclay (9-9 with '57 Giants; 10-9 career)

CURTLY SPEAKING ... The majority of everyday player candidates were primarily outfielders, to the point that the entire starting right side of the infield is made up of two guys who were primarily outfielders, though Blefary did get a fair amount of time at 1B and Welch did spot duty just about everywhere, including three dozen games at 2B ... Welch had six straight 50+ SB season, with a high of 95 in 1888, but his one pitching appearance was just one inning and led to six earned runs, meaning he had a career ERA+ of 7 ...

The last pitchers cut from the team included Kurt Knudsen, who was 6-5 in his career and Curt Fullerton, who was 10-37 ... Curt S. Brown, Kurt Miller and Curt Kaufman were a combined 7-14 in the 1980s and '90s ... Among the everyday players, OF Curt Motton couldn't survive the outfield glut, as his career .213 mark from 1967-74 didn't quite, ah, "curt" the mustard ...

For the record, then, our 25-man roster includes six Kurts, six Curtises and 13 Curts ... There are plenty of all three names, um, "curtently" active in the minor leagues, so there may be more candidates for this team in the coming seasons ...
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92-93 - Sunday, October 28 2007 @ 08:40 PM EDT (#175576) #
I don't think Schilling belongs in the Hall of Fame. There are better pitchers than him not in there, and it's not the Hall of Playoffs.
Mick Doherty - Sunday, October 28 2007 @ 10:45 PM EDT (#175577) #
92, I agree with you. I don't think he belongs in the HOF, but I do think he will get in. Big difference there. I'm not sure he was ever even the best pitcher on his own team ...  maybe in Philly, though Danny Jackson and Tommy Greene (pre-injury) were both right there; Unit in Arizona and Pedro then Beckett in Boston. So no, I don't think he deserves to be enshrined but The Legend may well get him in there.
Magpie - Monday, October 29 2007 @ 12:34 AM EDT (#175580) #
There are better pitchers than him not in there, and it's not the Hall of Playoffs.

On the other hand, the Hall is full of pitchers not nearly as well qualified as Schilling. Waite Hoyt? Jesse Haines?

If it were the Hall of Playoffs, he's automatic. He's one of the greatest post-season starters ever - him and Koufax and Gibson and Mathewson. Winning championships surely counts for something.

It's the Hall of Fame, and he's certainly famous enough. Like Don Drysdale.

It's true that he was the second best pitcher on the Diamondbacks, but he was also the second best pitcher in the league at the same time. Also like Drysdale. Wait - better than Drysdale, who wasn't as good as Marichal or Gibson.
Magpie - Monday, October 29 2007 @ 12:37 AM EDT (#175581) #
Schilling actually was the best pitcher in Boston in 2004 (he was certainly better than Pedro that year).
Mike Green - Monday, October 29 2007 @ 09:30 AM EDT (#175587) #
Bert Blyleven was arguably a better pitcher than Schilling has been.   Other than Blyleven, I don't see pitchers who are eligible, better than Schilling and have not been voted in.  Who might they be? And, as Magpie points out, there are a large number of lesser pitchers in the Hall of Fame. 

The current starting pitcher class, Clemens, Maddux, Pedro, Randy Johnson, Glavine, Schilling, Smoltz, Mussina, and Kevin Brown, is probably the best ever and much more impressive, in my view, than the first basemen (Bagwell, Thomas, McGwire, Thome, McGriff, Palmeiro and Delgado).  You can easily make the case that all nine of the starters are Hall of Famers.



Thomas - Tuesday, October 30 2007 @ 04:21 PM EDT (#175639) #
On the other hand, the Hall is full of pitchers not nearly as well qualified as Schilling. Waite Hoyt? Jesse Haines?

This isn't compelling argument. By that argument you could make an enshrinement case for about 1/5th of the current MLB starters.

Okay, that's an exaggeration. But saying someone is better than the worse player at their position in the Hall would lead to a Hall that would about double it's size in a decade. I'm sure I could name at least 20 starters better than Hoyt or Haines if given a half hour. Just like you could do with outfielders and Ross Youngs and shortstops and Joe Tinker and so on.
Magpie - Tuesday, October 30 2007 @ 08:15 PM EDT (#175642) #
would lead to a Hall that would about double it's size in a decade.

There could very well have been 1000 players better than Fred Lindstrom or Jesse Haines. Double the size is of the current Hall is probably pretty conservative.

What can you do? You can't evict Waite Hoyt. It would be mean and tacky, for one thing. But Dave Stieb was quite clearly a better pitcher. Never mind Schilling or Brown.
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