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The Jays bullpen looks like it will be a strength for the team next year and at the very least it won't be a weakness.. It has a strong back end of the bullpen with Jeremy Accardo, Scott Downs and Casey Janssen. Although not household names the three of them did an admirable job this year and even if they don’t repeat their performance in 2008, none of them look to be a flash in the pan. After those three will come some combination of Jason Frasor, Brian Tallet, Brian Wolfe, Brandon League, Joe Kennedy, Mike Gosling, Davis Romero, Josh Banks and any other free agent signings. Even with the inherent variance found in the performance of many relievers year-to-year I am reasonably confident the Jays will be able to find seven serviceable arms out of that group. Oh yeah, and BJ Ryan will be back, and presumably as good as new, by the middle of the year.

So why do I want the team to team to spend millions on a 33-year-old reliever who has never pitched in the majors before?



Three years ago I wrote an article on the best relievers in Japan, which you can read here. One of the names I mentioned was Hitoki Iwase, a 30-year-old left-handed reliever. Three years ago I wrote of Iwase, “He could make a valuable addition for a team in search of a left-handed reliever in their bullpen if [Hirotoshii] Ishii is not posted or signs with another different major league team. Iwase still has a number of good years in front of him, and with fairly good control he can likely survive without the stuff that some of the other relievers on this list appear to possess.”

At the time I was a proponent of signing Japanese relievers, as I also wrote in another earlier article, because the success of Akinori Otsuska, Shingo Takatsu and Kaz Sasaki had convinced me that you could potentially find some good bargains in Japan, as many relievers seemed to be able to make the transition successfully and yet it was a relatively untapped market. Well, the success of Hideki Okajima and Takashi Saito hasn’t changed my opinion one bit. While more teams may now be willing to spend the money on Japanese relievers, and likely more will enter the fray after the success of Okajima and Saito, there are still some very good pitchers in Japan who want to come across the Pacific and pitch in the majors. And one of the best is Hitoki Iwase.

Here are Iwase’s stats from Japan for the last 6 years.

2007: 2-4, 2.44 ERA, 61 G, 59 IP, 53 HA, 16 ER, 3 HR, 9 BB, 50 K
2006: 2-2, 1.30 ERA, 56 G, 55.1 IP, 40 HA, 8 ER, 3 HR, 8 BB, 44 K
2005: 1-2, 1.88 ERA, 60 G, 57.1 IP, 51 HA, 12 ER, 0 HR, 8 BB, 52 K
2004: 2-3, 2.80 ERA, 60 G, 64.1 IP, 53 HA, 20 ER, 4 HR, 14 BB, 53 K
2003: 5-2, 1.41 ERA, 58 G, 63.2 IP, 47 HA, 10 ER, 3 HR, 12 BB, 61 K
2002: 4-2, 1.06 ERA, 52 G, 59.2 IP, 38 HA, 7 ER, 2 HR, 15 BB, 66 K
TOTALS: 11-7, 1.77 ERA, 347 G, 359.1 IP, 282 HA, 73 ER, 15 HR, 66 BB, 326 K
7.06 H/9, 8.17 K/9, 1.65 BB/9, 0.38 HR/9, 4.94 K/BB, (1 UER in 2002, 2 UER in 2007)

The BB/9 rate and the K/BB rate look even better when you realize that 15 of those walks were intentional. Discounting intentional walks, the BB/9 rate drops to 1.28 and the K/BB rate rises to 6.39.

Also, if you want to compare his K and B numbers to his batters faced, which gives us a more revealing result anyhow, here they are:

2007: 233 BF. 50 K, 9 BB, 21.46 K%, 3.86 BB%
2006: 214 BF, 44 K, 8 BB, 20.56 K%, 3.73 BB%
2005: 229 BF, 52 K, 8 BB, 22.71 K%, 3.49 BB%
2004: 259 BF, 53 K, 14 BB, 20.46 K%, 5.41 BB%
2003: 244 BF, 61 K, 12 BB, 25.00 K%, 4.91 BB%
2002: 231 BF, 66 K, 15 BB, 28.57 K%, 6.49 BB%

To state the obvious, Hitoki Iwase is very good. His strikeout numbers have fallen a bit over the last couple of years and he’s allowing more hits, but his control has gotten even better. I wrote above, in light of Iwase’s slightly declining peripherals in 2004, that it was likely he could survive for several more years because of his control was improved. Well, Iwase seems to have peaked with his strikeout numbers over 2002-2003, but that in the meantime he’s improved his control and refuses to walk batters. He’s walked 6 batters non-intentionally in each of the last 3 years. In his last 669 regular-season batters, discounting the seven he intentionally walked, Iwase has walked 18 of them. Colour me impressed.

Iwase is also very appealing because he’s very effective at keeping the ball in the ballpark. Combining his walk and home run numbers it’s clear the other team often has to string together three hits in an inning to score off Iwase, and all the while he’s striking out one out of every five batters he faces. Another factor to note is that Iwase has only given up three unearned runs in the last six years, so he’s not a pitcher with an artificially low ERA but who allows more runs that you think.

I imagine some of you are thinking, okay, so what? Iwase’s a good pitcher, I get it. But the Jays already have a good bullpen. Toronto doesn’t need this guy.

I agree. Toronto doesn’t need him. But are the Jays a much better team if they do get him? Absolutely. And I would argue so much better than Toronto should become a significant player in the bidding for his services, should he choose to come to the majors. Iwase is leaning that way, but apparently is weighing accepting a record-setting contract by the Chunichi Dragons, his old team.

Iwase has a good case as the best relief pitcher in Japan. He's not had a bad year in 6 years; his ratios are very consistent and he’s not at the age where you might worry about him suddenly losing his effectiveness. He’s been described as having a funky delivery, in some ways similar to Hideki Okajima’s, and if you can’t remember how well Okajima’s rookie year went than I ask you why you’re reading this blog. Any worry that his delivery might be an injury risk should be calmed by the fact Iwase’s not been injured in six years and possibly never in his career. In short, there is not a single red flag I can see in Iwase’s profile. The only reliever with a clearly better profile on the free agent market is Mariano Rivera.

Secondly, even if Toronto’s bullpen is a strength right now making it stronger is only going to help the team. This year Arizona demonstrated how a team with a strong back of the bullpen could leverage bullpen innings in a very effective manner and this is one of the main reasons why the Diamondbacks outperformed their Pythagorean record so significantly. Another team that demonstrated what a strong bullpen can accomplish was the Red Sox, as you basically knew the game was over as soon as it hit the eighth inning and Okajima and Papelbon were ready to go. September was a lot less fun for opponents of the Yankees when the Bronx Bombers were going from Joba to Rivera. Furthermore, should the Jays reach the playoffs, having a strong back of the bullpen is even more of an advantage as you can lean on your best relievers very heavily, perhaps best demonstrated by Boston in game 2 of the World Series. I know mentioning the playoffs issue is putting the cart ahead of the horse in a big way, but I do think it is worth at least pointing out that this move could have even larger dividends in the playoffs. It’s not hard to see the benefits of having a very strong back end of the bullpen and a back three of Iwase, Accardo and Ryan could turn a lot of Toronto’s games into 6 or 7-inning contests.

Astute readers may be ready to mention that Toronto did have 3 very good relievers this year, all with an ERA+ over 190. They absolutely did and I don’t think I was alone in noticing what a benefit that was and how favourably it compared to Batista-Frasor-Schoeneweis in 2005. However, the Jays can’t expect that again from those three pitchers, especially from Downs, who had a then career-high 112 ERA+ in 2006, and Janssen, who was a better pitcher in 2007, but not one whose peripherals supported his low ERA.

Furthermore, signing Iwase would allow the Jays to deal a reliever (or two) and would also give them the flexibility to move Janssen (or Wolfe) to the rotation. JP could explore dealing a reliever for another player or prospect or could attempt to add one to a larger package to secure a more desirable return. The most logical candidate to be traded, should Iwase be signed, would be Downs. That wouldn’t be a problem as Iwase could serve as the primary left-handed reliever for the next three years and one of Tallet, Romero, Kennedy or Gosling would make a serviceable second lefty. I’m not expecting the Jays to be able to add Downs to a package of Jesse Litsch or Casey Janssen, Adam Lind and Joe Inglett to get Santana, as one recent Hardball Times article recently estimated Santana’s value. However, Downs does have value. And he probably will never have more value than he does right now.

Two relievers offer some indication as to what one might expect Downs’s market value to be. A couple of days ago JC Romero signed a 3 year/$12 million contract. Romero had a 243 ERA+ this year and had an ERA+ of 135 and 128 in 2004 and 2005. However, his ERA+ was 68 in 2006 and even this year his low ERA also came with a 42/40 K/BB ratio. Scott Schoeneweis had ERA+s of 85, 134 and 94 in the three years before he became a free agent (you could switch a 107 in for the 85 if you’d like his last three years as a reliever, since he was used as a starter in 2004) and he got 3 year/$10.8 million contract from the Mets last offseason. Ron Villone made $2.5 million with the Yankees this year. Ron Mahay, who is older and worse than Downs, is highly sought and could well get a 2 or 3-year deal at $3 million to $4 million per year according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution (via Rotoworld). Downs is arbitration-eligible and should get a nice rise from his $1.025 million, but he still might be cheaper or not require the longer commitment of some of the other options on the free agent market and talent-wise, he is just as good.

Now, do I expect Downs to fetch a king’s ransom? Not at all. But even a B minor leaguer or two would help our minor league system. But more importantly, I’d bet on Iwase having a better year than Downs in 2008 and probably going forward as well. That should be what is most important to a Toronto team built to win in 2008 and 2009. Iwase will be 35 in 2010 and there’s no reason he should lose his effectiveness at that point, but I’d rather be stuck paying a mediocre Iwase $3.5-4 million during 2010 rather than missing out on him because of an unwillingness to add an extra year to the deal.

In what he has predicted will be a quiet offseason for the Jays, JP needs to make sure his few moves are designed to help the team win now without sacrificing the future. Signing Iwase would be a risk. He’ll be expensive for a Japanese reliever and there’s always risk involved when someone has never pitched in the majors. However, risks are what the Jays need to take at times. Finding more bargains for the sixth or seventh spot in the bullpen or at backup catcher, both of which he has done several times, helps the team, but it’s not what is going to make it a serious playoff contender. JP needs to roll the dice, which he did on Burnett and which has worked out when Burnett has been on the mound. On a team that is average at many positions it’s hard to find spots to upgrade without spending substantial dollars, which isn’t something the team seems to be positioned to do this offseason. Iwase is someone the team could sign and potentially get a big upgrade with for perhaps $4 million a year. Plus, it would keep him away from the Red Sox and Yankees, both of which could potentially become involved in the bidding.

The team might have to walk away if the Yankees want to throw Farnsworth money at Iwase, which may be what ends up happening, but the Jays should make a serious effort to sign him and be willing to go to into the low 8-digits over 3 years. Hitoki Iwase could team with Accardo and Ryan to give the Jays a 1-2-3 punch at the back of the bullpen that would put them squarely in upper echelon of bullpens in the majors.
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Pistol - Monday, November 12 2007 @ 09:49 AM EST (#176036) #
Good thinking, even if it's a slim to none chance the Jays are evening considering it.

In that scenario I don't see why Downs would need to be traded, particularly for prospects.

The pitcher that the Jays should consider trading is Accardo (regardless of signing any free agents).  He put up a great year, now wears the 'closer' label, is really cheap the next couple years, and not a free agent for 4 years (or 3 if I misread this).
Thomas - Monday, November 12 2007 @ 09:57 AM EST (#176037) #
In that scenario I don't see why Downs would need to be traded, particularly for prospects.

In case I didn't make it clear I don't think Downs needs to be traded. Signing Iwase would just open up the possibility that the Jays could trade a reliever and Downs seemed like the most logical candidate in my mind. I'd have no problem keeping Downs and trading another reliever or simply keeping a deep bullpen as the odds are that at least one of the 5th, 6th and 7th men will struggle and need to be replaced internally at some point in the season.

I also agree that there's almost no chance the Jays are considering it.

jeff mcl - Monday, November 12 2007 @ 10:02 AM EST (#176038) #
You make a compelling argument and I'm philosophically sold on the idea of building on strengths when you can't solve weaknesses.

Would JP do well by signing Tomohiro Nioka?  I've always had a hard time finding numbers for Japanese players, but he appears to be a solid defensive SS who hits well in pressure situations.  Dominoes are falling on the SS market with  Renteria to DET, Uribe back with the Chisox and Vizquel back in SF.  Iwamura didn't break the bank for TB and it would appear as though Nioka could probably be had for a bit less the way FA season is shaping up.

Squiggy - Monday, November 12 2007 @ 10:04 AM EST (#176039) #
I guess it's a moot point now, he is staying in Japan:
[http://www.japanball.com/news.phtml?id=11151:]
ayjackson - Monday, November 12 2007 @ 10:55 AM EST (#176040) #
Downs should not be traded because he is an "A" ranked reliever who (provided he pitches reasonably well next year) will yield us two first rounders when he leaves via free agency.  He should be untouchable.
John Northey - Monday, November 12 2007 @ 10:58 AM EST (#176041) #
Tomohiro Nioka...
http://japanesebaseball.com/players/player.jsp?PlayerID=1072

He has been a SS mainly, has played a little third so if his range drops there are options.

25 and 20 HR the past two years, peak of 29 in '03.

285/334/449 lifetime, 295/346/457 last year.

A right handed hitter he wouldn't be a platoon mate, turns 32 in April. Solid fielding percentages in the 980's, but hard to say on range without scouting reports (vital for Japanese players imo).

I'd make an offer no higher than what McDonald is getting with him being your regular SS and McDonald the backup - probably doing a mix-and-match until one or the other proves worthy/unworthy of regular play.
Thomas - Monday, November 12 2007 @ 04:26 PM EST (#176061) #
I guess it's a moot point now, he is staying in Japan:

Good thing I didn't wait to publish the article until tomorrow, but perhaps I should have put it up Sunday.

He should be untouchable.

I'm sure you didn't mean this literally. If you did, that's a foolish statement to make at best. Very few players in the majors should be untouchable and I wouldn't want to put Downs in a category alongside David Wright and Albert Pujols. And the list of "untouchable" Jays (all of whom could be moved in the hypothetical perfect trade) should begin with Rios, Halladay, Snider and McGowan.

I agree that the team should keep his "A" status in mind if they are negotiating a trade with him involved and he is worth more as an "A" player than I realized. However, he is not and should not be "untouchable."

Pistol - Monday, November 12 2007 @ 04:43 PM EST (#176062) #
will yield us two first rounders when he leaves via free agency

I think this can be a little overstated (relative to any free agent).  The best you're going to get is a 2nd half first round pick and a sandwich pick (which with all the extra compensation picks is essentially round 2 now).
slitheringslider - Monday, November 12 2007 @ 04:49 PM EST (#176063) #
I don't think Alex Rios belongs on the list of untouchables. He is definitely very good, but ranking 18th in OPS among all qualified outfielders (.852) does not make him an elite, untouchable player. Given that his above-average bat with excellent defense gives him great value, I wouldn't hesitate to trade him a year or two down the road if the right trade comes around. While he is an good player, players like Rios and Wells quickly gets overrated after putting up a couple above-average season and pegged as a franchise player. I feel like Rios, much like Wells, is a very good player and will definitely help many teams, is not a franchise player that a team can build around.
ayjackson - Monday, November 12 2007 @ 04:55 PM EST (#176064) #
I meant untouchable in that nobody is likely going to step up to give you what he is worth when he leaves of his own accord.  Would you trade Scott Downs for JP Arencibia and Brett Cecil?  That is what our A reliever netted us last year.  Or was it Kevin Ahrens and Brett Cecil?
Lugnut Fan - Monday, November 12 2007 @ 08:31 PM EST (#176076) #
This is unrelated to the topic, but for those of you looking to get your baseball fix, stadeo.tv is covering the World Cup Of Baseball over in Taiwan.  All the games are available on their website and the best part is that it is free.
Ryan Day - Monday, November 12 2007 @ 09:47 PM EST (#176079) #
I think this can be a little overstated (relative to any free agent).  The best you're going to get is a 2nd half first round pick and a sandwich pick (which with all the extra compensation picks is essentially round 2 now).

I'd also say that, in theory, a AA or AAA player acquired for Downs could be worth more than a sandwich-round pick - closer to the majors, and with more performance history to back him up.

I don't think any relievers are particularly untouchable, but Downs is at least replaceable - I'm pretty comfortable with Tallet as the primary lefty reliever. Of course, it's not like Downs is very expensive, either, so there's no real need to move him.
Dez - Monday, November 12 2007 @ 10:01 PM EST (#176080) #
I'd also say that, in theory, a AA or AAA player acquired for Downs could be worth more than a sandwich-round pick - closer to the majors, and with more performance history to back him up.

That might be the reason why a AA or AAA player would *not* be worth as much as a sandwich pick. Once AA and AAA stats have been accrued, it's much easier to project the type of major leaguer that player will be. You won't get potential stars in a trade targeting minor leaguers for Downs, while you could get a star if you waited for the draft picks.

CaramonLS - Monday, November 12 2007 @ 10:51 PM EST (#176081) #

What about Hikori Kudora?

According to Yahoo he is planning on making the jump to the majors.  He was 12-8 with a 3.56 ERA, but consider that in 2006 he had a 1.85 ERA!!! and 144Ks over 189 1/3 IP.

Also - Fukadome, a player with the defense of Ichiro, his offensive numbers... oh and he bats left handed.  Perfect guy to slot into the OF.

Dez - Monday, November 12 2007 @ 11:45 PM EST (#176083) #
A sad day for those of us hoping to see Jorge Posada in a Blue Jay uniform - he has resigned with the Yankees for four years, 52 million

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3107197
Dez - Monday, November 12 2007 @ 11:55 PM EST (#176084) #
I really should know how to make a proper link
Posada signs with Yanks
ayjackson - Tuesday, November 13 2007 @ 07:54 AM EST (#176085) #
Blair was on Primetime yesterday and said that the two scouts he knows who cover Japan didn't think that Fukodome was anything special - another Iwamura in all likelihood.  Which is fine, but nothing to get too excited about.
CaramonLS - Tuesday, November 13 2007 @ 10:58 AM EST (#176088) #
Just looking at his vs. Iwamura's numbers in the Japanese league, Fukadome is higher in every offensive catigory.  Career highs in Japanese league OPS: 1089 for Fukadome (breaking the 1K OPS barrier 3x during his career) vs. 968 OPS for Iwamura.  Both in 2006, higher average, etc etc.  If I had to wager, I'd say he'd be a better player by a bit of a margin, but still, he'd be a good guy to slot in, even if he only say reaches the 850 ops mark vs. Righties or something like that - just to add some balance, which is probably something reasonable to expect.
Wildrose - Tuesday, November 13 2007 @ 12:12 PM EST (#176094) #
Here's a very definitive and positive review of Dustin McGowan.
Pistol - Tuesday, November 13 2007 @ 03:32 PM EST (#176106) #
Would you trade Scott Downs for JP Arencibia and Brett Cecil?  That is what our A reliever netted us last year.  Or was it Kevin Ahrens and Brett Cecil?

  • Speier turned into Brett Cecil and Eric Eiland
  • Cat turned into Kevin Ahrens and Justin Jackson
  • Lilly turned into Trystan Magnuson

Smaj - Tuesday, November 13 2007 @ 07:26 PM EST (#176114) #

Wildrose - absolutely fantastic article on McGowan.  The comparison to Oswalt absolutely blew me away; had no idea of the quality season Dustin put together.  Let us hope this is the initial peripherals of greatness coming forward.

You made my night!  Thank you.

ayjackson - Tuesday, November 13 2007 @ 11:59 PM EST (#176123) #
Thanks Pistol.  I forgot that the Angel's signing of Gary Mathews Jr. bumped one of our compensatory picks down to the second round.  Still, in hindsight, I'm sure glad we didn't re-sign Cat and Speier and now have Cecil, Ahrens, Eiland and Jackson to show for it.
katman - Wednesday, November 14 2007 @ 01:06 AM EST (#176126) #
The thing is, you have to believe that this management team is willing to do anything at all - except keep trying the same thing and expect different results. I don't have that confidence.

Which is a shame, because if you look at the teams that made the post-season, I don;t see Toronto matching up well with them.

timpinder - Wednesday, November 14 2007 @ 04:24 AM EST (#176129) #

katman,

I have to disagree with you.  I think Toronto matches up well with all of the playoff teams, assuming the Jays are healthy and their starters play to their career averages. 

The 2007 season was a disaster.  Overbay, Glaus, Wells, Johnson and Thomas all simultaneously had the worst seasons of their careers.  Furthermore, Zaun, Overbay, Glaus, Johnson, Wells, Halladay, Burnett, Ryan, League and others missed time to injury.  McGowan, Marcum and Litsch did not start until a couple of months into the season, while we fans were forced to suffer through starts from Zambrano and Ohka.  I would say that a rotation of Halladay, Burnett, McGowan, Marcum, Janssen/Litsch is a match for any other rotation in MLB.  If Ryan's healthy, then Accardo/Ryan could rival Shields/K-Rod in the bullpen.  The rest of the bullpen was strong too, they had four pitchers with ERAs under 3.00, without Ryan.  As for the lineup, if they just match their career norms, they will score a lot of runs.  I don't expect Thomas to be much better than he was in 2007, but there's no reason why the rest of the lineup won't return to normal.  McDonald represents the only real hole in the lineup.

So, I do not have a problem with J.P. standing pat.  I wouldn't mind seeing him bring in a SS, but as it stands now, I sincerely believe that this is contending team, on paper.

 

timpinder - Wednesday, November 14 2007 @ 04:31 AM EST (#176130) #
Oh, and despite all of the injuries and all of the career worst seasons, the Jays still finished above .500. 
Chuck - Wednesday, November 14 2007 @ 10:41 AM EST (#176132) #

The 2007 season was a disaster.  Overbay, Glaus, Wells, Johnson and Thomas all simultaneously had the worst seasons of their careers.

Not sure this is all strictly true.

In terms of rate stats, Glaus' 2007 was entirely in line with his career (120 OPS+ vs. 121). In terms of playing time lost due to injuries, he logged just 207 AB in 2004 compared to 385 in 2007, so he has been less healthy before.

During the 5-year stretch from 1998 to 2002, Thomas exceeded 2007's 125 OPS+ only once. In terms of playing time, his 2007 PA's were the most he logged since 2003.

Oh, and despite all of the injuries and all of the career worst seasons, the Jays still finished above .500. 

Yes, the offensive side of the ledger featured injuries and poor performances. But, by contrast, the pitching side featured all kinds of career best performances that were far beyond reasonable expectations, at least for 2007: McGowan, Marcum, Accardo, Janssen, Downs, Tallett...

It's reasonable to argue that a return to norms on offense will be offset, at least partially, by regressions from the pitchers, yielding a similar W-L record to 2007.

And don't forget Stairs' age 39 resurrection. I wouldn't want to bank on that again.

Mike Green - Wednesday, November 14 2007 @ 10:46 AM EST (#176133) #
Old friend Dave Gassner is a minor league free agent.  I am hoping that some team moves him to the bullpen, and gives him a job hopefully facing primarily LHH.
katman - Saturday, November 17 2007 @ 01:11 AM EST (#176210) #
Chuck - word. Likely outcome is that we're going to gain some on offense in 2008, and lose some on pitching or stay stable, and still have serious speed/hole issues in the lineup. Up against Boston and the Yankees, that means "you lose" unless everything breaks your way. Which is always VERY unlikely.

We can build a team that's pretty good, has some gaps, but has guys who can really carry a team, and hope they carry us (KC in 1985, anyone? Or just look at the Manny & David show in Boston) at the right moment. We can have an extremely solid team top to bottom, with better than average performance almost everywhere but no one star, and that can win. But a team of pretty good guys but no league-beaters, sporting some serious holes, getting "over the hump" older in a number of key places, and looking for luck to break their way... why does anyone think that will work?

I'd like to be wrong. And it may be that the reality of free agents + trades says "you can't improve this season." That would suck, but sometimes reality does. What I have a hard time dealing with is management that looks at the team as it is, and says "nah, this is just fine, no need to bother." That, to me, is someone who ain't tryin', but really ought to be. Tell me you're thinking hard in a difficult market. Tell me you won't talk about your planned moves because it might jeopardize negotiations. But tell me you're trying.

Our opponents certainly are.
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