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Gilbert (6-6, 3.44) vs Yesavage (1-0, 3.21)
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ayjackson - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 05:17 PM EDT (#470870) #
Go Jays!

Presumably, I will miss most of this due to an incredibly feeble Air Canada wifi signal.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 05:53 PM EDT (#470871) #
We got this.
Katie - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 07:13 PM EDT (#470873) #
I don't think I would have gone with IKF over Davis or Loperfido. Yesavage has groundball tendencies, but I'm not convinced the defensive upgrade is worth the offensive tradeoff. I'd want the better bat in there against Gilbert.
Nigel - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 07:24 PM EDT (#470874) #
I’m not even sure IKF is a defensive upgrade if he’s at 2B. He’s looked poor there all playoffs and historically the only place he’s consistently been good defensively is at 3B.
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 07:29 PM EDT (#470875) #
Biggest Blue Jays game in a decade…no pressure.

I hope the team gets out to a solid lead early on. I think falling behind could make it tough to win this one, as the hitters may inclined to overly press in that situation.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 08:07 PM EDT (#470876) #
SIT. DOWN.
James W - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 08:13 PM EDT (#470877) #
The way George is falling on each swing is not a good sign.
SK in NJ - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 08:15 PM EDT (#470878) #
Using IKF and not putting him at 3B is puzzling.

Just have to hope the irrational love of IKF pays off, or at least doesn’t hurt them.
Eephus - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 08:15 PM EDT (#470879) #
Agreed. Springer is clearly having trouble putting weight on it. Still a heck of an at-bat. He was putting some great swings on the ball.
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 08:21 PM EDT (#470880) #
Springer battled pretty well. The Blue Jays made Gilbert work, but…which team is going to have the breakthrough hit tonight?

Exciting game, but also very tense and hard to watch.
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 08:24 PM EDT (#470881) #
I think Vladdy was upset because he got a FB down the middle to hit on pitch 1 to him. Fouled it off.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 08:27 PM EDT (#470882) #
Whiffs galore.
BlueJayWay - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 08:29 PM EDT (#470883) #
This looks like the Yesavage against NYY
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 08:29 PM EDT (#470884) #
Yesavage pitching with confidence. Great work. But a couple of those pitches to the M’s sluggers in the second inning were dangerous — floated over the middle of the plate and got hit hard foul.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 08:33 PM EDT (#470885) #
THEY GOT THE YIPS
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 08:38 PM EDT (#470886) #
Nice! Keep piling on the pressure and runs!
Gerry - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 08:38 PM EDT (#470887) #
This game has batflip game vibes.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 08:39 PM EDT (#470888) #
Babipped!
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 08:41 PM EDT (#470889) #
I totally disagree with the way the Blue Jays directed the Gimenez PA. He should not have been bunting.
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 08:46 PM EDT (#470890) #
Lukes did a Game 5 Varsho bases loaded K. Ouch
Eephus - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 08:47 PM EDT (#470891) #
Suarez giveth, Suarez taketh away. Great play there to save a couple runs (sadly).

The Jays look very locked in against Gilbert though, aside from Gimenez and Lukes that inning. Need a big zero from Yesavage here to get the home lads back on the sticks.
blu-j - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 08:48 PM EDT (#470892) #
Thrilled to score first; frustrated by the two Ks and great two-out preventing a big early lead.
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 08:59 PM EDT (#470893) #
Yesavage faltering here. Can still get out of it though.
Gerry - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 08:59 PM EDT (#470894) #
Need someone (Bassitt) to be warming.
blu-j - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:00 PM EDT (#470895) #
Well this is terrifying.
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:01 PM EDT (#470896) #
What a huge play. A potentially turning point play.
BlueJayWay - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:01 PM EDT (#470897) #
woooo hahaha
Glevin - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:01 PM EDT (#470898) #
Huge. What an incredible play by Varsho to keep that almost HR at a single too.
Eephus - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:02 PM EDT (#470899) #
Ohhhh my goodness…. This is too much.

What a fantastic play by Vlad though. No panic, calmly threw it to second. I feel like his defence over the years has had peaks and valleys but this year I feel like he’s been great more often than not.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:03 PM EDT (#470900) #
Breathe ugly breathe
Eephus - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:04 PM EDT (#470901) #
Agreed it was a nice play by Varsho to get it in so quick, but what on Earth was Crawford doing? Deep fly ball like that, it’s so strange he wasn’t at least around second base thinking of scoring should the ball have kicked around a bit. We all knew Barger has a great arm but was he thinking of tagging from first? Just bizarre.
Nigel - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:04 PM EDT (#470902) #
As I said before the series started, the one stark difference between the teams is defence. Not many three innings turn so dramatically one way and another based fundamentally on defense.
Eephus - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:08 PM EDT (#470903) #
Oh you sweet, sweet long haired prince.
James W - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:08 PM EDT (#470904) #
BOOOOOOM!
Glevin - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:11 PM EDT (#470905) #
If Barger can get it going again, this offense is just so much better. I don't know why anyone would ever throw Ernie a first pitch fastball in the zone but happy they do!
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:14 PM EDT (#470906) #
You Big Beautiful Boy you
Gerry - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:16 PM EDT (#470907) #
Need the bullpen warming.
Gerry - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:17 PM EDT (#470908) #
Five baserunners in the last eight hitters.
Gerry - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:19 PM EDT (#470909) #
Six baserunners in nine hitters.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:20 PM EDT (#470910) #
Very rare kirk passed ball spotted in the wild
Glevin - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:20 PM EDT (#470911) #
Is nobody in the pen? Bassit could go bulk but need to get a K sort of guy up now.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:21 PM EDT (#470912) #
Houdini
BlueJayWay - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:21 PM EDT (#470913) #
good  lord
Gerry - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:21 PM EDT (#470914) #
I'd still yank him.
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:22 PM EDT (#470915) #
Trey rocks.

He’s still pitching well and has a great split. Give him some more rope. The Blue Jays bullpen has been vulnerable at times.
Eephus - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:22 PM EDT (#470916) #
These DPs are about as clutch as clutchiness gets.

Agreed though, the Mariners are looking way more on time with Yesavage and chasing much less. I’d be thinking about Eric Lauer should Seattle again get somebody on base next inning.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:24 PM EDT (#470917) #
I think i'd try to push him through the bottom of the order again. Maybe.
Eephus - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:25 PM EDT (#470918) #
I definitely let him start the 5th and see. But have Lauer throwing just in case. Or Bassitt if that’s how you wanna roll (personally I’d prefer Lauer).
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:35 PM EDT (#470919) #
Defense defense defense it was always our edge!
Eephus - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:36 PM EDT (#470920) #
Much much better. I like these “non bases loaded” double plays way more.

Let him start the 6th. His command looked much better that inning.
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:36 PM EDT (#470921) #
People are being too nervous. Yesavage hasn’t been perfect but he is confident and he is dealing under tremendous pressure.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:37 PM EDT (#470922) #
How dare you call me nervous i am totally calm cool and collected
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:38 PM EDT (#470923) #
Ha! I am super nervous too. But I have a lot of faith in Yesavage — in what we’re seeing on the mound, as Buck just said.
Glevin - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:40 PM EDT (#470924) #
Can't keep Vladdy down.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:41 PM EDT (#470925) #
Michael - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:42 PM EDT (#470926) #
Vlad sure has showed up on both sides of the ball this post-season.

I sure give Yesavage another inning or more as long as he feels ok.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:44 PM EDT (#470927) #
Yeah gotta let yesavage go until he gets into trouble now. Can't be confident in any reliever.
Nigel - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:45 PM EDT (#470928) #
The Jays broadcast team called Gilbert “one of the best pitchers in baseball” 5 times (that I counted). What stats do they give the broadcast team? Gilbert is a slightly below average pitcher for his career away from T-Mobile.
Katie - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:46 PM EDT (#470929) #
Varland threw very loosely at the end of the top of the fifth. If the Mariners had gotten another runner or two, he was going to be first out of the pen.
Eephus - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:48 PM EDT (#470930) #
As long as there aren’t two runners on base, I’m very okay with Varland.

(I’m never letting this go! At least, not this playoff run)
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:51 PM EDT (#470931) #
SIT DOWN CAL
Nigel - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:52 PM EDT (#470932) #
I would go with Lauer as the next man I to this game.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:55 PM EDT (#470933) #
Right call
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:55 PM EDT (#470934) #
Here we go. Varland time.

Terrific outing by Yesavage. What a start to his MLB career.
Eephus - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:57 PM EDT (#470935) #
Agreed. They were squaring him up and Suarez can hit one out as well as anyone. No need to push it.

Just need ten outs from the pen now. (Covers eyes in terror)
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 09:59 PM EDT (#470936) #
Varland’s velo not there
Gerry - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:00 PM EDT (#470937) #
My kingdom for a reliever who follows the starter and doesn't give up a run.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:00 PM EDT (#470938) #
Bring in little
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:02 PM EDT (#470939) #
Big K of Crawford to stop the M’s momentum. Well done.
BlueJayWay - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:02 PM EDT (#470940) #
Not enjoying this bullpen this October
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:02 PM EDT (#470941) #
Let's see how this bullpen can find 9 outs.
Nigel - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:03 PM EDT (#470942) #
Varland can’t come back out. His velocity was way down.
Nigel - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:03 PM EDT (#470943) #
Lauer should come out against the bottom of the lineup.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:03 PM EDT (#470944) #
Bassitt Lauer and Scherzer plz.

Screw all these "relievers".
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:04 PM EDT (#470945) #
It would actually be cool to see Lauer come in, be sharp, and just pitch the rest of the game. This contest is too close for the likes of Seranthony and Hoffman to be safely relied upon to lock it down.

Alternatively, the Blue Jays could just score some more runs.
Nigel - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:06 PM EDT (#470946) #
The Jays have no one up in the pen. You must be joking?
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:10 PM EDT (#470947) #
Whoa that was a huge first out for Varland in the 7th.
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:12 PM EDT (#470948) #
Two up, two down. Very good.
blu-j - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:13 PM EDT (#470949) #
Okay, keep attacking the zone—I don’t want anyone on for Raleigh. And I agree with other wondering about where the other options are from this expanded pen?
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:14 PM EDT (#470950) #
Ok that was sweet, louie
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:16 PM EDT (#470951) #
T8 might be the critical half-inning remaining. The M’s hitters are Raleigh, Polanco, Naylor (with Arozarena and Suarez next if runners get on board).
Katie - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:17 PM EDT (#470952) #
Hoffman's warming up.

A sign of trust?
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:18 PM EDT (#470953) #
Time for Varsho to crush one.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:19 PM EDT (#470954) #
I thought trust Hoffman meant save him for the 9th?

Anyways, score some runs here pretty please.
Nigel - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:21 PM EDT (#470955) #
Seattle’s d comes to the rescue
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:21 PM EDT (#470956) #
Oh thank god. YUGE run.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:22 PM EDT (#470957) #
Whoa they're pitching around the erndog
Nigel - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:23 PM EDT (#470958) #
Ernie getting the Bonds treatment that he so richly deserves.
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:24 PM EDT (#470959) #
Wonder if Raleigh is getting a bit fatigued. He has caught a tonne of innings this season and postseason.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:26 PM EDT (#470960) #
I guess Davis will never play again.
Eephus - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:26 PM EDT (#470961) #
For a Platinum Glove winner Raleigh’s defense has been pretty rough this whole series. A couple nice plays here and there but his catching has been clunky to put it politely. A thought a good throw there has a good chance to nab Guerrero there (who himself did great to react quickly and score without difficulty).

92-93 - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:27 PM EDT (#470962) #
Imagine watching this team every day for the last month and not realizing the Jays have full trust in Jeff Hoffman, for better or worse.
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:29 PM EDT (#470963) #
Have to have faith that Hoffman can lock this 6-2 lead down.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:29 PM EDT (#470964) #
Full trust = coming in with a four run lead in the 8th but not coming in with a one run lead in the 8th
Katie - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:29 PM EDT (#470965) #
It's almost like this is a high leverage situation, which I thought Hoffman didn't pitch in.
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:29 PM EDT (#470966) #
Straw-Varsho-Lukes outfield.

Blue Jays looking for every edge they can muster.
Katie - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:30 PM EDT (#470967) #
I would have pinch-hit for IKF, notwithstanding the defensive downgrade. A homer there could have spruing it open.

(Also, Hoffman was the only person warming with a three run lead, so he was coming in regardless )
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:31 PM EDT (#470968) #
(4 run lead with nobody on is actually low leverage by definition)
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:32 PM EDT (#470969) #
Boom. There's 1.

Is that Cal's 4th K tonight?
Nigel - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:32 PM EDT (#470970) #
Raleigh is a good framer and has a strong arm. He’s not good at blocking balls in the dirt. He’s a good defender but the Platinum Glove was a function of his offence not his defence. I think Kirk is a better defensive C.
James W - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:34 PM EDT (#470971) #
Is that Cal's 4th K tonight?

No, he only has 3. He grounded into a 3-6-1 double play the other time up.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:34 PM EDT (#470972) #
Ha. Even better
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:35 PM EDT (#470973) #
Hoffman looking very good so far.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:37 PM EDT (#470974) #
Only at 95 that inning but he was painting the top of the zone. Beauty.
Katie - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:37 PM EDT (#470975) #
It's more than a little obtuse to pretend that a four run lead in Game 6 of the ALCS against the 2-3-4 hitters on the opposing team is not high-leverage.
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:37 PM EDT (#470976) #
Something to remember about Hoffman is that, even though he’s been inconsistent in 2025, he was excellent in 2023 and 2024. He has a track record.
Michael - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:38 PM EDT (#470977) #
Rested Hoffman with enough runs to not worry about a HR is a lot better than 4th time in 5 games Hoffman.
99BlueJaysWay - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:39 PM EDT (#470978) #
I hope they bring Schneider in for Springer.
99BlueJaysWay - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:40 PM EDT (#470979) #
Guess not
Katie - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:40 PM EDT (#470980) #
Springer isn't moving like he's fully healthy.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:41 PM EDT (#470981) #
Vargas should be tossed for that.
Glevin - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:42 PM EDT (#470982) #
Springer clearly hurt. Don't think he should be in lineup like this.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:43 PM EDT (#470983) #
Of course hoffman shoukd 1000% come out for the 9th too.
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:43 PM EDT (#470984) #
Does the manager start Springer at DH tomorrow? Another option would be to start Davis Schneider at DH and keep Springer on the bench for a possible pinch-hitting assignment.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:45 PM EDT (#470985) #
Ok hoff just do it
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:47 PM EDT (#470986) #
It's just pain management for springer i doubt he sits.
Nigel - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:48 PM EDT (#470987) #
I suspect the M’s ambition (at least) will be to make Hoffman throw a bunch of pitches to put tomorrow in jeopardy.
greenfrog - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:53 PM EDT (#470988) #
Might need to use Gausman out of the pen tomorrow.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:55 PM EDT (#470989) #
Come on hoff reel it in.

uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:56 PM EDT (#470990) #
James W - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:56 PM EDT (#470991) #
Game Seven!
Gerry - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:57 PM EDT (#470992) #
Whew
Michael - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:57 PM EDT (#470993) #
Might be an all starter game tomorrow. Bieber, Bassitt, Gausman win?
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 10:59 PM EDT (#470994) #
What i love about this game is it wasn't dominant it was just clutch after clutch after clutch.
Eephus - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 11:01 PM EDT (#470995) #
They can pitch Pete Walker for all I care as long as they get it done. Finally beating Seattle here at home feels massive. But I also doubt we’ll be so fortunate to see Raleigh have such a rough game at the dish (or behind it).

Live at least another day! By the way, is this only the second ever Game 7 in Blue Jays history? 1985 is the only other one I can think of… but it’s 4am here and my brain is not working super too goodly.
SK in NJ - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 11:06 PM EDT (#470996) #
Game 7. All hands on deck. Let's go.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 11:07 PM EDT (#470997) #
You guys want to see something REALLY crazy?


Most Ks in a postseason by a Blue Jay:

1. Price '15: 23
2. Yesavage '25: 22
Glevin - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 11:14 PM EDT (#470998) #
One of the funny things about this game is that it could have been so different in so many ways. Back to back innings with bases loaded double plays is obviously lucky but Vladdy his a 116 MPH ball with the bases loaded that went for an out which is absurdly unlucky. Defense was great today and so was bullpen. Just a solid team win. One more gents!
James W - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 11:19 PM EDT (#470999) #
By the way, is this only the second ever Game 7 in Blue Jays history?

You are correct, this is the second time in franchise history for a game seven.
Katie - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 11:28 PM EDT (#471000) #
If I'm Dan Wilson, Andres Munoz is the first or second arm out of my pen tomorrow, depending on the situation, and is going for two innings unless he's pitching awfully.

Seattle can't lose both these games and not pitch him and you can't save him for a save situation that may not come. That will be another thing the Jays will have to contend with.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 11:29 PM EDT (#471001) #
Another much less important but still very important thing about Yesavage that i've been very surprised to see from a rookie is how comfortable he is fielding - there were some iffy plays to make and he made it easy on his fielders by not hesitating to get to the base and catching the ball comfortably and easily in stride both on regular grounders to 1B and on tricky DPs. No awkwardness from him at all out there.
Michael - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 11:34 PM EDT (#471002) #
Yeah, I think as much as you could say there was any "key play" in the game the 3-6-1 DP was the play of the game.
uglyone - Sunday, October 19 2025 @ 11:35 PM EDT (#471003) #
Yeah that slider destroyed them.



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Jeff Hoffman has generated more whiffs tonight than in any previous outing this year.
Michael - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 01:22 AM EDT (#471004) #
Yeah, leverage tomorrow mostly doesn't matter. If you are losing by a bunch, still pitch as if it is tied as you don't need to save anyone. Even if you are winning by a bunch, with 3 days off to the World Series start, you basically don't need to save arms and should pitch as if tied too.

So best arms first (subject to fatigue, matchups, and base runner situations). No reason to save your best relievers for the end of the game if your going to relievers earlier. Of course riding a starter who is pitching well also makes sense. And just because you have lots of pitchers available it doesn't mean you should bring in lots of pitchers - sometimes staying with the pitchers who are pitching well rather than swapping to all your pitchers until you find the one that isn't pitching well today is the right idea.
John Northey - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 01:26 AM EDT (#471005) #
Time for the 2nd game 7 ever for the Jays - and this time the wind can't hurt them (razzen frazzen Sundberg ball that just kept going and going and going).
John Northey - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 01:36 AM EDT (#471006) #
Been thinking about how the next 5 years will be tons of fun with a lot of the same guys here for that period.

Signed for 2026-2030+: Vlad, Kirk, Gimenez
Under team control until 2030+: Lukes, Little, Varland, Barger, Loperfido, Yesavage

OK, no jumping off bridges at the idea of watching the Little high wire act for 5 more years. It'll be interesting to see if they resign any of Bo, Bassitt, Scherzer, Bieber this winter, or extend Varsho. Gausman, Springer, and Garcia are also free agents post 2026.

My point is that we have a strong team and it isn't going away. What looked like it might be the end of an era back in the spring is now looking like the core of a potential dynasty (2020-2030 - 4 playoffs already, with 5 years to go) that could rival or even beat the 1983-1993 stretch. Fun time to be a fan.
scottt - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 06:16 AM EDT (#471007) #
They have Santander for at least the next 4 years and I believe he's going to rebound.
They also have Straw for as long as they want him.
Same with Heineman who hasn't even reached arbitration.

You also  missed Fisher.
John Northey - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 08:24 AM EDT (#471008) #
I was going by Cot's list of guys and added Yesavage as they haven't put in arb/FA for guys who didn't come up until this year. So Fisher, Fluharty, and many others who easily could be sent back down in 2026 I skipped. Heineman will be a free agent post 2028. Straw is only under contract for 26 and 27.

Another good question for the offseason will be - do the Jays go for Tarik Skubal who the Tigers are openly working on trading now with 1 year of control left. He has 2 straight years of 6+ bWAR & fWAR, which is worth a LOT but odds are at this point he'd be wanting to go to free agency unless offered a record setting deal I'd think, as he enters his age 29 season. But dang if he wouldn't look amazing in a rotation with Yesavage-Gausman-Berrios and whoever. Jays could easily afford whatever he demands (I'm guessing 7/$40+ per year is the starting point, with it taking up to 10/$400 mil to get him on the dotted line). Doubt the Pirates are nuts enough to trade Paul Skenes (not a FA until after 2029) so Skubal is easily the best available pitcher this winter. Wonder what the Tigers would accept? Ain't no way Yesavage goes, but pretty much anyone else has to be available for a trade I'd think.
bpoz - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 09:13 AM EDT (#471010) #
Toronto 94 wins and Seattle 90 wins, plus 1 win away from the WS is a great season for each team. Both teams fans are very happy.

SK in NJ - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 10:01 AM EDT (#471011) #
Jays need to get to Kirby early because a bullpen game heavily favors the Mariners. Bieber throwing up a zero in the 1st and the Jays striking early would be huge.
Jevant - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 10:08 AM EDT (#471012) #
I actually suggested to my son that they should probably just start Munoz and let him go as long as he can't. They of course won't do that, but I'm kinda glad they won't.
uglyone - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 10:53 AM EDT (#471013) #

Series Pitcher Usage Tracker:

Gerry - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 11:24 AM EDT (#471014) #
I assume Seattle will go Kirby, Woo, then Castillo or Munoz depending on the inning. It would be ideal if the Jays cored runs on Kirby as the back end is tougher than the start.

Munoz could go two innings and he is their best pitcher.
uglyone - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 12:12 PM EDT (#471015) #
i watched the full MLB postgame on youtube and something interesting caught my attention.

early on they were talking about game 7s and how all hands are on deck and how everyone will have their spikes on ready to play and all that.

then towards the end of the show they had Yesavage on, and asked him whether he would have his cleats on in game 7 and he said something like "well after throwing 85 pitches today no i don't think i'll have the cleats on", and the interview moved on a to a bunch of other things.

But then the last question they gave him was i think ARod saying "Trey you have Jeter here who has won 6 titles - any questions you have for him?"....and Yesavage just gave a simple "yeah - what advice do you have for me for winning a championship?", and Jeter's instant answer was "Get your cleats on tomorrow and get into the bullpen".

Yesavage seemed a bit struck by it and said something like "yeah maybe I should" - and I sure hope he does.

Great winning advice from Jeter and I hope the kid takes it to heart.
uglyone - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 12:19 PM EDT (#471016) #

Rosenthal on a bit of a heater over at theathletic.com:

Amen.

Nigel - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 12:29 PM EDT (#471017) #
I continue to feel pretty good about things, as I think the Jays have fairly comprehensively outplayed the M's the last 4 games. Of course, tomorrow's starter usually dictates momentum. As others have said, scoring early seems extra important today with Woo and Munoz ready to go. Just as important - get as many balls in play against the M's defence as possible.
snider - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 01:24 PM EDT (#471018) #
Skimming game logs I see 1.1 innings as max that Munoz has thrown this year, with max ~ 30 pitches. How far can he go and be effective? We may find out today.
92-93 - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 01:41 PM EDT (#471019) #
I was at that fantastic ballgame last night, so a few observations reading back this thread today:

I'm watching the game at my desk today, and I don't think the broadcast captures well just how much everybody was standing for almost every pitch, at least in Level 100 by third base. A lot of the time you just see everyone behind home sitting down.

I agree with greenfrog about the terrible decision to have Gimenez bunt. It wasn't very likely at the time that 3 runs were going to win that game, and they had a pitcher on the ropes and giving him an out there was letting him off the hook. I particularly hated the decision because Gimenez isn't that big a liability for a double play. It would have been much more warranted later in the game, and I would have minded the decision less if they straight took it off after the 0-1 count. Perhaps they did, and Gimenez did the fake bunt pull the bat back move on his own. Let your players play in the 2nd inning John, no need to manage yet.

While I tend to agree with the thoughts on IKF at 2B, the team clearly does not or they would just play IKF at 3B and Clement at 2B. I thought it was the right move to keep your best defense in the game instead of PHing with Schneider. That being said, I'd be more than happy with Schneider getting the start tonight, though I don't think that will happen.

I'm with uglyone that they'll find a way to bring Bieber back next year.

And obtuse is the perfect word tbh. Hoffman didn't pitch the 8th in G5 because he had pitched against those guys the night before. He was going to be used to close out the 9th of a hopefully 2-1 game.
uglyone - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 02:05 PM EDT (#471020) #
I think it's pretty funny that everyone keeps talking about the jays 'making contact' and 'not striking out' and meanwhile the Jays have the most HR in the postseason and by far the best ISO.
Magpie - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 02:11 PM EDT (#471021) #
Gimenez did the fake bunt pull the bat back move on his own.

Which seems to be what happened. The bunt was on, but the Seattle corner infielders were charging very aggressively and Gimenez didn't like his chances of getting it done. As Schneider has said many, many times, he trusts his players and apparently Gimenez caught his eye after the first bunt attempt, as if to say "this isn't going to work."
Nigel - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 02:17 PM EDT (#471022) #
My comment about IKF at 2B and not sure if he was a big defensive upgrade there was in reference to Schneider. The small sample size numbers for 2025 bear this out (IKF hasn't been very good defensively at 2B but its in a tiny sample size). If IKF is in the line-up versus Schneider then I'm not surprised they configure it with Clement at 3B and IKF at 2B. With his career playing time now giving a decent data size, Clement looks fairly elite defensively at 3B and merely pretty good at 2B. IKF's numbers are all over the place, but his 2024 numbers for the Jays playing 2B were outstanding. All to say, I think what they are doing makes sense if you get past the whole IKF vs. Schneider thing (for which there are pros and cons but there is zero chance that they switch things up tonight).
Katie - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 03:08 PM EDT (#471023) #
I'm not thrilled with bullpen management that has Lauer having thrown the fewest pitches of anyone on the Jays staff this round.

Obviously it won't remain that way after today, but I would be irate if I was a Mariners fan and Munoz had thrown the fewest pitches on their staff in the series. He'll be good for two.

Seattle really looked like they were ready to go to third on the Gimenez bunt. Naylor was basically past the mound before Gimenez made contact with the first attempt. I liked trying to slap away l.
John Northey - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 03:45 PM EDT (#471024) #
Vlad has had a post-season. For all post seasons with 40+ PA (Vlad at 47) his 462 average is 4th all time. His 532 OBP is 5th all time, 1000 slg is 2nd all time (Beltran 2022 is higher at 1022). This is out of 991 players. For all-time career Ernie CLement's 447 average is #1 (40+ PA), his 463 OBP is 9th. Vlad's 705 Slg% is 10th (remember he had those bad playoffs in 20/22/23). Vlad is one of 12 hitters with a 200 wRC+ lifetime in the playoffs. Delgado is #8 at 204, and ex-Jay Willie Aikens is #1 at 230 (who knew?).
Michael - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 04:07 PM EDT (#471025) #
Is it clear the bunt was a manager call and not just Gimenez doing what he wants. I know in past interviews Schneider (correctly) says he hates the bunt, but lets players do what they do best.
Glevin - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 04:12 PM EDT (#471026) #
Same lineup again. I would have gone Schneider at LF but I get it I guess. My biggest worry is that Schneider hates downgrading defense so he's afraid of pinch hitting when he needs to unless he can't avoid it.
85bluejay - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 04:31 PM EDT (#471027) #
Once again last night's game demonstrated the importance of defence. Springer looked terrible last night and I was hoping for a change - guess not.
Katie - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 04:33 PM EDT (#471028) #
I agree, Glevin.

I expect that oly if the Jays are losing late will we see Schneider. I don't think they'll pinch hit if they have a narrow lead, even if IKF is up in a key spot.
dalimon5 - Monday, October 20 2025 @ 04:55 PM EDT (#471029) #
Let's go Shane Bieber... If he's his good self tonight and the offense can give a 3 run lead then I predict Scherzer and Bassitt come in and shut out the Mariners.
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