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Casey Lawrence is gone, which is probably the most important news farm related coming out of your Thursday, May 11, 2017. Justin Maese threw a complete game down the road in Lansing, while two other starting pitching prospects also turned in respectable pitching performances.

Buffalo Bisons

Rowdy Tellez is starting to heat up. He had two doubles on the night and has raised his batting average 30+ points since the beginning of May. Donít look now, but Dwight Smith Jr. continues to hit at a .300 clip. He had a single and walk on the night. Heís got a bit of Denard Span to his game and I think the Jays would be happy if he turned out to be anything close to Mr. Span. Raffy Lopez continues to rake. He had three hits and I suspect will see time with the big club rather shortly given our predicament behind the plate.

New Hampshire Fisher Cats

Altoona scored two in the bottom half of the ninth to pip the visiting Fisher Cats. Tim Mayza hit a batter to push the winning run across. Conner Greene had a solid start. He tossed six innings of one run baseball, though will be concerned about a 4:3 walk to strikeout ratio. Greene, in fact, had a no-no going into the fifth. Anthony Alford had two hits, as did Richard Urena.

Dunedin Blue Jays

T.J. Zeuch had his longest start of his young professional career. He went seven innings allowing three earned on nine hits and four strikeouts. Zeuchís efforts were all for not as the rival Tortugas scored two runs in each of the seventh and eighth innings to top the High A affiliate.

Lansing Lugnuts

Lansing was your only win on the farm last night. Justin Maese pitched a rare complete game. He threw a total of 103 pitches and secured his 27 outs in the following manner: ten groundouts, seven flyouts, and seven strikeouts. Maese walked one batter and allowed one earned run on five hits.

Three Stars

3. T.J. Zeuch

2. Conner Greene

1. Justin Maese

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China fan - Friday, May 12 2017 @ 08:51 AM EDT (#341938) #
I'm a little surprised that the Jays were willing to lose Casey Lawrence just to provide a spot on the 40-man roster when they needed to promote Mike Ohlman.  Pitching depth is important.  I keep advocating for them to cut Darrell Ceciliani instead, rather than reducing their pitching depth.  But now that I think about it, I guess the Jays need a few of those AAAA position players around, just as emergency roster filler.   Last year they gave 104 plate appearances to Ceciliani, Andy Burns, Matt Dominguez, Junior Lake and Jimmy Paredes.  All of those guys (except Ceciliani) are now gone.  This year they acquired Ty Kelly, and now he's gone too.  They're all marginal players, but they have value when there are injuries.  Maybe that's why Ceciliani is still on the 40-man roster.  He still has options too.
China fan - Friday, May 12 2017 @ 09:01 AM EDT (#341940) #
Any reports on the defensive abilities of Raffy Lopez?  His hot hitting is nice to see this year, but he failed to do much at the AAA level in his previous 650 plate appearances since 2014, so I am a little skeptical that he has suddenly turned into a good hitter when he is nearly 30 years old.
uglyone - Friday, May 12 2017 @ 09:51 AM EDT (#341945) #
After all the talk about lack of depth, it seems the jays have enough lawrence types that losing him is no big deal.

Bisons' SP:

Bolsinger (29): 12.1ip, 1.46era, 1.07fip, 1.85xfip
House (27): 29.0ip, 1.24era, 2.33fip, 2.99xfip
Valdez (32): 15.0ip, 1.80era, 2.76fip, 2.71xfip
Lawrence (29): 10.0ip, 0.90era, 3.76fip, 3.54fip
Latos (29): 10.0ip, 0.90era, 3.56fip, 4.40xfip
Oberholtzer (28): 26.2ip, 2.36era, 3.82fip, 3.93xfip


and especially with the bullpen doing well enough that keeping Biagini in the rotation for now seems to be a good idea.

I still think the better question is why exactly Latos and Lawrence were given first dibs as fill ins.
uglyone - Friday, May 12 2017 @ 10:54 AM EDT (#341948) #
Rowdy slowly but surely coming along:

Gm 01-10: 41pa, 7.3b%/22.0k%, .185bip/.184avg, .158iso, 56wrc+
Gm 11-20: 39pa, 20.5b%/20.5k%, .227bip/.200avg, .133iso, 105wrc+
Gm 21-30: 38pa, 13.2b%/21.1k%, .400bip/.303avg, .121iso, 131wrc+
uglyone - Friday, May 12 2017 @ 11:18 AM EDT (#341951) #
looking at the milb lines, with babips starting to level off a bit, one under the radar kid that is starting to look really impressive across the board is Edward Olivares. This year he seems to be adding legit gamepower to his solid approach and hitting numbers, and he has 5 tool talent.

Can anyone refresh me on whether his defense is actually CF-calibre or not?
cybercavalier - Friday, May 12 2017 @ 11:31 AM EDT (#341953) #
I'm a little surprised that the Jays were willing to lose Casey Lawrence just to provide a spot on the 40-man roster when they needed to promote Mike Ohlman. Any reports on the defensive abilities of Raffy Lopez?  His hot hitting is nice to see this year, but he failed to do much at the AAA level in his previous 650 plate appearances since 2014, so I am a little skeptical that he has suddenly turned into a good hitter when he is nearly 30 years old.

About catching, would some veterans who are on the shuttle between Triple-A and the Major League and not on their original teams' 40 men roster come to Toronto? 29 years old Tim Federdowicz of the Giants comes to mind...
Also recalling from off-season discussion about getting Chris Gimenez. He is a 33 years old veteran; if he was sought after, could the three to four years younger Raffy Lopez be given a slim chance? The Yankees have a 31 years old Eddy Rodriguez catching at Triple-A
China fan - Friday, May 12 2017 @ 11:40 AM EDT (#341954) #
"....it seems the jays have enough lawrence types that losing him is no big deal...."

You listed 5 guys.  I agree that Bolsinger, House and Valdez are worthy of getting some major-league time.  One possible problem is that two of them (Bolsinger and House) are out of options, so they could easily be lost.  I'm not sure whether Valdez has options, but he is 32 and first appeared in the majors in 2010, so he might be able to refuse a minor-league assignment and declare free-agency if he gets demoted again.  So the depth could potentially be rapidly lost -- these guys can be promoted once to the majors, but then they could be lost to the organization as soon as they need to be demoted.
uglyone - Friday, May 12 2017 @ 12:02 PM EDT (#341955) #
"You listed 5 guys."

5 isn't enough?
PeterG - Friday, May 12 2017 @ 12:11 PM EDT (#341956) #
Valdez does have one option year (2017) so he could get a spot start if needed. As House does not, I would only expect him to be called up if they thought he would stay up. Could lose him just as we might lose Ohlman when he has to be DFA upon Martin's return.

Jarret Grube is another starting pitcher in Buffalo although I don't ever expect to see him in TO.
#2JBrumfield - Friday, May 12 2017 @ 12:42 PM EDT (#341960) #
Justin Maese threw a complete game down the road in Lansing.

That effort wasn't good enough to get Maese listed in Baseball America's newsmakers in its daily prospect report. They did have Vladdy listed a few days ago but it's rare when a Blue Jays prospect gets mentioned these days.
China fan - Friday, May 12 2017 @ 12:50 PM EDT (#341961) #
"....5 isn't enough?...."

Could you perhaps read more than the first four words of a post before you disagree with it?

Of course there are plenty of pitchers available if you open up the door to the Oberholtzers of the world, as you did when you listed him among your five picks.  Heck, there would be dozens of pitchers available by that criteria.  If we are including Oberholtzers (a nice euphemism for "very marginal pitchers"), then there's never a shortage of pitchers.

The point is that Casey Lawrence was one of the better ones. 

uglyone - Friday, May 12 2017 @ 12:56 PM EDT (#341962) #
well i put the numbers in to show that he isn't any better than them.
hypobole - Friday, May 12 2017 @ 01:35 PM EDT (#341965) #
Gotta agree with uo on this one. DFA'd players who have some value end up being traded for cash or some marginal prospect, don't they? I'm guessing when Seattle gets a few of their pitchers back from the DL, we'll see Casey Lawrence back on the waiver wire.
hypobole - Friday, May 12 2017 @ 01:48 PM EDT (#341966) #
Looking at the Midwest League stats, 4 of the top 5 wRC+ are Lugnuts. Bichette #2 - 194, Vlad #3 - 193, Thomas #4 - 187, Jones #5 - 179. Oliveras is also top 20 at 144, but #9 among those 21 or younger.
85bluejay - Friday, May 12 2017 @ 02:58 PM EDT (#341969) #
Wither Dalton Pompey.
Mike Green - Friday, May 12 2017 @ 04:36 PM EDT (#341974) #
On the 60 day DL still.  Pompey is eligible to be activated in June.
hypobole - Friday, May 12 2017 @ 04:44 PM EDT (#341975) #
Jake Thomas explains his hitting (or walking?) approach to Dave Laurila at FG.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/blue-jays-prospect-jake-thomas-is-an-obp-machine/
Mike Green - Friday, May 12 2017 @ 04:54 PM EDT (#341977) #
With a sly Courtney Barnett reference too from Laurilia.  All right then.

I'm rooting for Jake Thomas- he's got my little league skill set (which was none too popular).

PeterG - Friday, May 12 2017 @ 05:29 PM EDT (#341978) #
I know that promotions usually take place in June but Jake Thomas is one of 2 players I would like to see moved up now. He deserves it on merit, maintaining an OBP over .500 but as he is repeating the level and is 23, I would challenge him asap to see how he responds.

The other player I would promote asap is Chris Rowley.
China fan - Friday, May 12 2017 @ 05:32 PM EDT (#341979) #
"...well i put the numbers in to show that he isn't any better than them...."

Wait -- you mean those 10-inning numbers?  You're actually judging Lawrence on the basis of his 10 innings this season?  And you're concluding that Lawrence is as bad as Oberholtzer because of those 10 innings?

I think a more appropriate indicator is the fact that the Jays repeatedly described Lawrence as their 6th starter and then repeatedly promoted him from Buffalo as soon as they needed a 6th starter.  They chose Lawrence, rather than anyone else, which suggests that the Jays scouts and coaches and front office had judged him as the best of the lot.  That, surely, is much more significant than the 10 inning stats that you cited.

I'm a little surprised that you didn't try to project a full-season WAR on the basis of those 10 innings....   Just joshing you, UO, you know we appreciate your stats.
jerjapan - Friday, May 12 2017 @ 06:44 PM EDT (#341981) #
I think Lawrence being considered 6th starter was more of an attempt to catch lightning in a bottle - remember, he was an absolute non prospect less than a year ago, a 28 year old undrafted starter with subpar velocity who had yet to achieve consistent success in AA and who would get hammered every time he surfaced in AAA.  Classic org soldier.  He had that nice run at the end of 2016 in AAA where he seemed to find a bit more velocity (pushing him all the way to 90-91 mph).  He was decent in Spring and the team decided to see if he would continue his improvements, which he clearly didn't do - SSS is less of an issue when a guy is getting hit as hard as Lawrence was for his 13 big league innings 

I will continue to pull for the guy, and continue to think his loss is a non-issue.  Bolsinger, Oberholzer and House (who picked a lousy time to have his worst start of the season) are far better options right now than Lawrence IMO. 

uglyone - Friday, May 12 2017 @ 11:29 PM EDT (#341997) #
"You're actually judging Lawrence on the basis of his 10 innings this season?"

well, no. the other pitchers all have more impressive career stats and better stuff - i thought that was obvious.

this year's stats were there to show that even by a "hot" argument, he wasn't any better a choice.
dan gordon - Saturday, May 13 2017 @ 12:37 AM EDT (#341999) #
Jason Leblebijian just turned 26 a few minutes ago. He had another 2 hits on Friday, hitting out of the cleanup spot, upping his batting average to .337 and his OPS stays well above 1.000. He isn't striking out much, has almost as many walks as K's, and even has a couple of steals without getting caught. He is hitting well at home, on the road, against righties, against lefties, and is playing all over the infield. I'm starting to think he might be a late bloomer who has a shot at getting more than a cup of coffee in the big leagues.

Three AA slow starters had 2 hits apiece on Friday, Urena, Ramirez and McBroom. The latter 2 have been coming around for about a week now, and that's 2 straight 2 hit games for Urena.
jerjapan - Saturday, May 13 2017 @ 05:24 PM EDT (#342025) #
Agreed on Leb Dan, hope the org gives him a shot at some point this season.

JB Woodman with 3 more Ks today - 52 in 119 ABs.  I can't recall a more strike out prone Jay's prospect in my time following the minors.

OBP machine Jake Thomas with 2 more walks and a single - I agree with PeterG that he needs a promotion.  Lane Thomas is the only guy in the Dunedin OF who is enough of a prospect to deserve regular playing time.



uglyone - Saturday, May 13 2017 @ 05:45 PM EDT (#342026) #
vladdy's on base streak ends at 29gms :(
hypobole - Saturday, May 13 2017 @ 06:14 PM EDT (#342027) #
Prior to Woodman, Matt Morgan was my gold standard K prospect

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=sa828869&position=C
jerjapan - Saturday, May 13 2017 @ 06:53 PM EDT (#342030) #
Morgan's career 36.7 K% is pretty awful, although he was a HS draftee (unlike Woodman). 

Is he still with the org?  I see no activity in 2017.

Shoeless Joe - Saturday, May 13 2017 @ 07:28 PM EDT (#342031) #
Edward Olivares is showing great power and a great contact rate. I'd be real interested on a report on his defence.
PeterG - Wednesday, May 17 2017 @ 01:14 PM EDT (#342170) #
Olivares has better than average speed and an outstanding arm. He recorded his 7th OF assist today on a throw from the RF corner to 3b.
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