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The current Veterans committee is to debate the "Modern Baseball Era" Voting is on December 10th and there are ex-Jays on the ballot.

The full ballot is... (FYI: 10 name limit) Steve Garvey, Tommy John, Don Mattingly, Marvin Miller, Jack Morris, Dale Murphy, Dave Parker, Ted Simmons, Luis Tiant and Alan Trammell

ex-Jays: Jack Morris (still sounds wrong all these years later), Dave Parker (brief at the end of his career).

Guys who should go in but won't: Marvin Miller (should've been in years ago), Tommy John (how many players have a procedure named after them plus nearly 300 wins), Alan Trammell (why isn't his dp partner Lou Whitaker here, both criminally underrated by writers, and fans).

Guy who will probably go in: Jack Morris (most wins in the 80's and a 10 inning game 7 shutout that shouldn't have been)

Wouldn't be shocked by: Dale Murphy (2 MVP's), Luis Tiant (many feel he should've been there long ago).

Will get support but not getting in: Mattingly (Mr. Yankee for the non-WS years), Steve Garvey (had a long consecutive game streak, well thought of by writers of his era)

No support ever but actually really close: Ted Simmons (look him up, you might be surprised)

The ballot for the writers will come out soon with Chipper Jones a lock, Jim Thome likely to come close, and many others who likely will be one and done (some might get a second ballot). Returning are (70%+ last time so should make it) Vlad Sr, Trevor Hoffman, with 50%+ for Edgar Martinez, Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds, and Mike Mussina. Canadian Larry Walker will hopefully climb up a bit, while ex-Jays Fred McGriff and Jeff Kent also keep floating along hoping voters notice them someday.

Also of note: the Ford C. Frick Award (broadcasters) is to its final 8: Buddy Blattner, Joe Buck, Bob Costas, Dizzy Dean, Don Drysdale, Al Michaels, Joe Morgan and Pee Wee Reese. A lot of ex-players there which I'd prefer not to see win. I'm pulling for Costas as he was always enjoyable on the TV broadcasts when I was a kid as was Al Michaels. They are doing a 3 year cycle for this award now and these are "National Voices", next year is "Current Major League Markets" (where Jays announcers can be considered), last year was "Broadcasting Beginnings".
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rpriske - Tuesday, November 07 2017 @ 09:52 AM EST (#350454) #
Should be in: Marvin Miller, Dale Murphy

Will probably get in: Jack Morris

rpriske - Tuesday, November 07 2017 @ 09:55 AM EST (#350455) #
Actually, add Alan Trammell to the 'should be in' list.
AWeb - Tuesday, November 07 2017 @ 02:19 PM EST (#350459) #
I'd put Trammell in easily, with Tiant and John as well. Miller specifically asked not to be inducted after he died, so he's out. Tiant has said the same.

Who gets in though? Trammell dropped off the bwaa ballot just last year, and for cripes sake Whitaker still isn't on the ballot? No idea who they 10-person panel will favour.

I've seen a lot of "Morris probably goes in" sentiment, but I'm not sure why aside from the close call with the writers? Aside from Trammell (a top-10 or 15 shortstop), every other guy on this list seems like a "if X, why not Y" argument waiting to happen - this indeed might be the point, since the HoF wants people talking about it.

Just looking at ex-Jays, Delgado and Olerud were better than Mattingly and Garvey (IMO), and Steib was better than Morris (of course). Devon White was as valuable career-wise as Parker and Murphy.

Give me Whitaker, Grich, Palmeiro, Lofton (wrong era maybe for the last two?), Nettles...Reuschel maybe? I love me a big hall, but not most of these guys.
uglyone - Tuesday, November 07 2017 @ 03:32 PM EST (#350460) #
Ryan Bass
Tail number of aircraft that crashed into Gulf does match Roy Halladay’s plane, identity of dead not confirmed.…
uglyone - Tuesday, November 07 2017 @ 03:45 PM EST (#350461) #
Authorities to hold news conference and release ID of person killed in crash at 4:15 (via @WFLARyan)

#BREAKING: Tail number of plane in Pasco crash registered to address belonging to former MLB all-star Roy Halladay
uglyone - Tuesday, November 07 2017 @ 04:17 PM EST (#350463) #
Jeff Passan @JeffPassan
Blue Jays and Phillies great Roy Halladay died today in a plane crash in the Gulf of Mexico, according to Pasco County (Fla.) Sheriff Dept.

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