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There is plenty of turnover among the Top 30 prospects in the Blue Jays system according to the 2019 Baseball America Prospects Handbook.

2018 Blue Jays second-round pick Griffin Conine finds himself in the middle of the 2019 Blue Jays prospect rankings by Baseball America.



2018 Blue Jays fourth-round selection Sean Wymer also landed a spot just inside the top 30 Blue Jays prospect list from Baseball America.


Here is how Baseball America grades each player, based on the traditional 20-80 scouting scale:

  • 75-80 - Franchise player/number one starter
  • 65-70 - Perennial All-Star/number two starter
  • 60 - Occasional All-Star/number three starter/game's best reliever
  • 55 - First division regular/number three-four starter/elite closer
  • 50 - Number four starter/elite set-up reliever
  • 45 - Second division regular/platoon/number five starter/lower-leverage reliever
  • 40 - Reserve player/fill-in starter/relief specialist

Risk factors for each player are as follows:

  • Low - Likely to reach realistic ceiling, certain big leaguer barring injury
  • Medium - player needs to refine tools but is fairly polished
  • High - Most top draft picks in their first seasons, has plenty of projection involved, player with significant flaw or worrisome injury history
  • Very High - Recent draft picks with limited track record or injury issues
  • Extreme - Teenager in rookie ball, player with significant injury history or struggles with a key skill (pitcher's control or hitter's strikeout rate)

The Blue Jays have the 3rd best system in MLB according to BA, up five spots from 2018 and 17 from 2017.

No.# Player Position Grade Risk 2018 Rank
1
Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
3B
80  Medium 1
2
Bo Bichette
SS
65
 Medium 2
3
Danny Jansen
C
 55 Medium
7
4
Eric Pardinho
RHP
 60 Very High
6
5
Jordan Groshans
SS
60
 Very High
NR
6
Nate Pearson
RHP  60 Very High
4
7
Kevin Smith SS  55 High
26
8
Sean Reid-Foley RHP 50
Medium
11
9
Cavan Biggio 2B  50  Medium NR
10
Miguel Hiraldo SS  55 Extreme
17
11
Anthony Alford OF  45 Medium
3
12
Adam Kloffenstein RHP  55 Extreme
NR
13
Orelvis Martinez SS  55 Extreme
NR
14
Ryan Noda OF  50 Very High
13
15
Griffin Conine OF 50
Very High
NR
16
Cal Stevenson OF  50  Extreme NR
17
Patrick Murphy RHP 45
High
NR
18
Trent Thornton RHP 45
 High NR
19
Hector Perez RHP  45  High NR
20
Gabriel Moreno C  45  Very High
NR
21
Leonardo Jimenez SS  45 Extreme
NR
22
Billy McKinney OF  40 Medium
NR
23
David Paulino RHP  40  High NR
24
T.J. Zeuch RHP  40 High
12
25
Logan Warmoth SS  40 High
8
26
Sean Wymer RHP  40 High
NR
27
Elvis Luciano RHP  45  Extreme NR
28
Reese McGuire C  40 Hold
15
29
Rowdy Tellez 1B  40  Hold 21
30
Chad Spanberger 1B  40  Very High
NR

The biggest risers on the list from 2018 are Smith (26 to 7), Hiraldo (17-10) and Borucki (16-10). The biggest fallers from last year are Warmoth (25-8), McGuire (28-15) Zeuch (24-12) and Alford (11-3). There are 16 newcomers on the list, led by first-rounder Groshans and Biggio at five and nine respectively.

Top Rookie - Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
Breakout Prospect - Adam Kloffenstein
Sleeper - John Aiello

Projected 2022 Lineup
C: Danny Jansen

1B: Ryan Noda

2B: Lourdes Gourriel Jr.

3B: Vladimir Guerrero Jr.

SS: Bo Bichette

LF: Teoscar Hernandez

CF: Kevin Pillar

RF: Cavan Biggio

DH: Randal Grichuk

#1 SP: Marcus Stroman

#2 SP: Aaron Sanchez

#3 SP: Eric Pardinho

#4 SP: Nate Pearson

#5 SP: Ryan Borucki

CL: Hector Perez

Best Tools
Best Hitter for Average: Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
Best Power Hitter: Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
Best Strike-Zone Discipline: Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
Fastest Baserunner: Reggie Pruitt
Best Athlete: D.J. Neal
Best Fastball: Nate Pearson
Best Curveball: Eric Pardinho
Best Slider: Sean Reid-Foley
Best Changeup: Maximo Castillo
Best Control: Eric Pardinho
Best Defensive Catcher: Reese McGuire
Best Defensive Infielder: Kevin Vicuna
Best Infield Arm: Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
Best Defensive Outfielder: Jonathan Davis
Best Outfield Arm: Chavez Young
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ISLAND BOY - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 07:19 AM EDT (#370901) #
I didn't realize Vlad Jr. had that strong an arm. Also I never heard of Johnny Aiello and, after googling him, I just know he's an infielder drafted in the 14th round last year.
uglyone - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 07:36 AM EDT (#370902) #
hmm, that honestly looks like a pretty terrible job by BA, imom
Shoeless Joe - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 08:13 AM EDT (#370903) #
Things that jump out to me are:

1) There are very many high grades in the top 13
2) Hiraldo ranked higher than Orelvis seems to buck consensus
3) They seem extremely high on Noda and Stevenson
4) McKinney should be at least a 45, as a platoon player
5) The 2022 line-up seems way off

As for the 2022 Line-up I see it as:

C: Jansen
1B: Vlad
2B: Gurriel
SS: Bichette
3B: Smith
LF: Biggio
CF: Chavez Young
RF: Grichuk
DH: Hernandez

#1 SP: Pearson
#2 SP: Pardinho
#3 SP: Borucki
#4 SP: Reid-Foley
#5 SP: Patrick Murphy

CL: Perez
scottt - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 08:14 AM EDT (#370904) #
Vladimir Guerrero had an incredible arm, would throw on a line from the outfield.
The thing with Jr is that the arm didn't show up at all in the outfield.


rpriske - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 08:28 AM EDT (#370905) #
If Kevin Pillar is still the starting CF in 2022 something has gone wrong.
Chuck - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 08:38 AM EDT (#370906) #
Isn't a forecast that has Hernandez in the outfield and Grichuk a DH dubious on this basis alone?
scottt - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 08:45 AM EDT (#370907) #
The objectivity of the ratings is always suspect.

Let's take Tellez for example. He looks like a solid platoon first baseman.
By definition that's a 45 rating, but he scores a 40, bench player. Not a lot of teams would carry a bench player who can only field 1B. The Yankees plan on using Lemaheu at first, he had an 88 OPS+ last year. I'd just put a guy like Hernandez or Gurriel at first against lefties.

Same for McKinney.

The mlb pipeline list is similar, but everybody there is scored 45 or higher.

I haven't seen enough of Davis' defense to comment.

Risk seems to be a measure of level reached. AA/AAA/MLB medium, A High, R Extreme.
Hold is for a guy blocked at AAA?

Overall, it's not too different from other lists.

bpoz - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 10:00 AM EDT (#370908) #
Not enough proof reading. R Tellez RHP.
bpoz - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 10:04 AM EDT (#370909) #
Nice list. 15 of the 30 are in AA or higher. I did not count E Luciano.
uglyone - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 10:09 AM EDT (#370910) #
Tellez and Spanberger being put in the same class, when they're half a year apart in age and Rowdy had a great cup of coffee in MLB last year while Spanberger struggled in a callup to A+ last year seems more than a bit bizarre.

Or Noda being 1 year younger than Tellez and all the way down in low-A.
uglyone - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 11:22 AM EDT (#370911) #

Gregor Chisholm @gregorMLB Mark Shapiro pointed to the Phillies TV deal as one reason they were able to spend so much money this offseason. So I asked whether#BlueJays were getting a fair shake in their deal with Sportsnet. Here is his full answer:

who wants to take a shot at translating that garble?

is shapiro taking a shot at ownership here? or am I being too optimistic?
eldarion - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 11:51 AM EDT (#370912) #
That strikes me as a fair and honest answer. He says definitively that their TV rights deals are audited by a committee - something I didn't know previously. And he's right when he says the Canadian market is more regulated than the American market. He ends on a optimistic tone and I think that's reasonable.
bpoz - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 11:53 AM EDT (#370913) #
It is hard to fully understand the details that Shapiro spoke of. But I think he is saying that the Jays are quite healthy in this area.

Near the end of this chat, it seemed to me that he said that "revenues increase based in a higher winning %.
Shoeless Joe - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 11:59 AM EDT (#370914) #
If you flip Noda and Tellez, as well as Hiraldo and Orelvis the list makes a lot more sense. Noda and Spanberger are much closer prospects than Tellez is to either.

That entire statement by Shaprio was hard to read on any level.
James W - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 12:35 PM EDT (#370915) #
It seems to me that the question was "Boy, look at all the revenue the Phillies get from their TV service, while the Blue Jays just give their's away to the TV network. What's up with that?"

And the answer is "The situation is audited. There are regulations."
hypobole - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 12:40 PM EDT (#370916) #
Nothing wrong with Shapiro's answer. Typical corporate-speak, but not as inscrutable as some are making it out to be.
#2JBrumfield - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 01:19 PM EDT (#370917) #
<i>Not enough proof reading. R Tellez RHP.</i>

Noted and corrected. Refund cheque in the mail.

Continuing with Baseball America, I have not seen any issues at Indigo/Chapters in a number of Vancouver-area locations since switching to a monthly format. I'm wondering if that's the case throughout Canada.
uglyone - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 01:19 PM EDT (#370918) #
well, it's a bit inscrutable, as it seems to contradict itself.

i was wondering if i was just turnin soft and sunny in my interpretation.
uglyone - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 01:20 PM EDT (#370919) #

Gregor Chisholm @gregorMLB Another Rogers related question I asked this morning, is payroll set each year in isolation or are #BlueJays able to get a multi-year commitment from ownership. In other words, can they save money this year and make their budget bigger next year. Shapiro's response:

hypobole - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 01:24 PM EDT (#370920) #
what is the contradictory part?
Nigel - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 01:30 PM EDT (#370921) #
Audited in his answer doesn't mean audited in the normal usage of the word. Audited normally means that an independent third party auditor has looked at an issue like this (transfer pricing as between the team and the tv arm) and signed off on this. What he says is that a committee of owners have looked at the arrangement to decide whether the agreement should impact tv revenue sharing. Maybe that's an independent review, maybe it isn't. Maybe the revenue sharing committee thinks the tv deal is a joke but will let it stand so that they could stop making the old FX payments to the Jays. Who knows. But the deal isn't audited. His answer shouldn't give you any comfort (or discomfort) about that deal.
uglyone - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 01:33 PM EDT (#370922) #
seems to be a contradiction between saying regulations/exchange rate depress revenues while also saying that there's no reason they can't have revenues as high as most anyone.
bpoz - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 01:56 PM EDT (#370923) #
Sorry #2 J Brumfield. That was rude of me. I thought Baseball America was the author. I was a subscriber when it first came out. I regret not taking their offer of a lifetime subscription if I paid US$50 when they were on the verge of bankruptcy.
bpoz - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 02:08 PM EDT (#370924) #
Some of the teams are poor like Cleveland I believe. Their fans should never complain about a lower payroll.

The Jays are not poor IMO and they also seem to have a good sized payroll. A bigger payroll can be afforded. Shapiro and Beeston in the past had to answer about the size of payroll without sounding derogatory about the owners. A very tough job that Shapiro is still mastering. Beeston was fantastic in this area.

If St Louis for example is like us, market size wise, I wonder if their fans complain.

Now the Miami fans have every right to complain. IMO.
hypobole - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 02:33 PM EDT (#370925) #
Just saying they don't have access to some advertising revenue streams that US based teams have, but because our overall market is one of the best in MLB, there is no reason the teams revenues shouldn't also be among the best if the team is competitive.
#2JBrumfield - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 03:16 PM EDT (#370926) #
Sorry #2 J Brumfield. That was rude of me. I thought Baseball America was the author.

Sorry I didn't give you the benefit of the doubt, bpoz. My apologies!

I still subscribe to the online edition of Baseball America but their recent decision to go monthly with their magazine is one that irks me. I enjoyed the 30 prospect stories every issue but then they rotated leagues each issue and cut back their content about a year ago which also bugged me. Plus, I have trouble with trying to read it offline with the Digital Olive software getting too many redirects as a message. Oh well, first world problems.
scottt - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 05:31 PM EDT (#370927) #
I don't see a contradiction anywhere.
He said the value of the Sportsnet deal is overseen by the revenue sharing committee.
The deal is  worth less than you might think because they don't have access to US political ads--in the US the superPACS can spend as much as they want and they spend by the billions--or the drugs ads from Big Pharma--that's the main reason drugs are so expensive in the US. Just watch the Game Show Network for an hour, you'll see. So the other owners, including the revenue sharing ones, don't have an issue with what the Jays receive from Sportsnet.
He said that they can't control the exchange rate, not that it's a positive or negative effect, just something they can't control. Maybe Rogers has some leeway there, based on projection rather than actual value.
Than towards the end he states the overall revenues--not just the sportsnet stream--are among the best in the league.

scottt - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 06:22 PM EDT (#370928) #
Solid 4 innings from Sanchez today. 1 hit, 3 Ks.
Rays pitching was pretty good and they lost 2-1, all runs charged to Tepera.

Some of the players are starting to move back to minor league camp.
The most interesting is perhaps Merryweather. No one expected him to start the season in Toronto, but it's unclear if he'll end up on the 60DL or not.

Pompey is supposed to be back tomorrow, but there's no word on Grichuk who hasn't played much so far.



85bluejay - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 07:18 PM EDT (#370929) #
I see that astros former top prospect Francis Martes has been suspended 80 games for PEDs - Jays should be able to acquire him on a deep discount later this year (see David Paulino) especially because he's also recovering from TJ surgery.
bpoz - Tuesday, March 12 2019 @ 10:39 PM EDT (#370930) #
Strangely I feel optimistic about our team this year.
hypobole - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 12:06 AM EDT (#370931) #
Vegas isn't as optimistic. Jays over/under is at 74.5 wins. And the guy at oddsshark is recommending the under.
Nigel - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 12:14 AM EDT (#370932) #
I’d take the under as well. This is a bad offensive team (a line up filled with players who will struggle to post .300 OBPs), a bad defensive team (only two positions (RF, SS) and maybe CF and C) seem destined to offer average or above defence) and a pitching staff with many questions (some of which might be answered positively). Having said that, I’m optimistic that by July it will be an interesting team to watch.
hypobole - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 01:07 AM EDT (#370933) #
We may not be any better than last year, but Vegas also has the 3 teams ahead of us in the division finishing with a combined 22.5 fewer wins than last season.
scottt - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 07:57 AM EDT (#370934) #
Martes is losing all pay and service time while on the DL because of this suspension.
Testing players on the DL can work out well for teams.

Martes tested positive for Clomiphene.
This is used for teating infertility in women.
It's no longer used in the treatment of breast cancer due to toxicity and side effects such as cataracts.

Used by a man, this will increase production of luteinizing hormone, which regulates testosterone, and follicle stimulating hormone. I was wondering if this was a masking agent, but it seems more like a testosterone booster.
scottt - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 08:11 AM EDT (#370935) #
You might see Jansen as a low OBP, bad defense catcher, but he should be the best catcher in the division.

The offense was similar to Tampa's like year. Guerrero and Jansen should be an upgrade over  2018. Defensively, Galvis is an improvement over everybody we had last year and Hernandez can't possibly be any worse.

It's the pitching that was awful last year and if Stroman and Sanchez both rebounds, they could be able to compete with Tampa for the 3rd spot.

I don't want to put odds on the performances of guys like Buchholtz or SRF.
There is upside.

Donaldson is hitting .200 over 6 plate appearances and Tulo is hitting .200 after breaking out of an 0-for-17 slump. I'm optimistic not having to rely on old guys anymore.

ayjackson - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 08:20 AM EDT (#370936) #
I think there's enough decent dung being thrown at the wall in the lineup and on the mound to see some very interesting and exciting performances. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see 84 wins. It's not a lineup i have a firm set of expectations for either though.
Mike Green - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 08:38 AM EDT (#370937) #
My translation of UO's first quoted passage from Shapirolian to Greenish:

I, MS, suggest the following is all true of the Blue Jays' revenue base and current payroll:

1.   The imputed revenue associated with the high broadcast numbers on Sportsnet can be overstated. Advertising revenues in Canada are lower per capita because of significant limitations on political advertising [Shapiro is incorrect when he says that there is no political advertising, as we well know] and prohibitions on pharmaceutical advertising, among other differences between the Canadian and American advertising markets.
2.   Related party transactions such as Sportsnet-Blue Jays, NESN- Red Sox, YES- Yankees are overseen by a committee of 3 management representatives for purposes of determining fair revenue sharing amongst themselves.  I have sat on the Committee, but of course, recused myself when the issue of Sportsnet-Blue Jays was reviewed by the Committee
3.   The Blue Jay market is, nonetheless, one of the best in baseball.
4.   Our management team has not spent all to the limit of the payroll allocated for 2019 by ownership because we did not see a productive way to spend all of the money available to us, given our club's youth and relative lack of prime age talent.

Green speaking now.  It is telling that the CBA acknowledges that the Players Association has an interest in the Revenue Sharing Plan (Article XXIV, Section B, clause 4), but that the Commissioner or a Committee designated by the Executive Council (the Revenue Sharing Disputes Committee) is the Administrator of the Plan with no PA representation at all (Article XXIV, Section C, clause 1). The only thing that the owners have to do is advise the Association of any changes in the Administrator.  Calling Elizabeth Warren- after you're done with the big fish (Google, Facebook, Amazon), you might want to have a look at this wee little monopoly with a now-weak union. 

ayjackson - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 08:53 AM EDT (#370938) #
So 3 points of fact accompanied by a dash of spin.
85bluejay - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 09:18 AM EDT (#370939) #
Because I expect a significant selloff come July, I'm taking the under - If you tell me there's no/very little selloff in July, then I'm assuming something magical has happened and the over it is.
Mike Green - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 09:24 AM EDT (#370940) #
So 3 points of fact accompanied by a dash of spin.

Something like that.  Would be better with gin instead of spin, but spinning is for tops only.
Chuck - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 09:25 AM EDT (#370941) #
Because I expect a significant selloff come July, I'm taking the under

On a team loaded with 0-2 WAR players, how impactful would a selloff really be? There's no big fish whose departure will dramatically change the landscape (the one big fish would obviously not be part of the selloff).

Chuck - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 09:27 AM EDT (#370942) #
I think there's enough decent dung being thrown at the wall in the lineup

Ain't no dung like decent dung! You know its springtime when even dung isn't so bad. Ah, smells like roses.

85bluejay - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 09:27 AM EDT (#370943) #
I suspect the so called "audit committee" is there to check that a team doesn't do something egregious but it's mostly a rubber stamp.
Chuck - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 09:33 AM EDT (#370944) #
Audited in his answer doesn't mean audited in the normal usage of the word.

You mean "audited", then. Like the way the Trump Organization is in a "blind trust". Don't leave your air quotes at home. You're gonna need them.

85bluejay - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 09:34 AM EDT (#370945) #
Happy to see Pompey back in the lineup today - still hoping he knocks off Pillar before opening day - Pillar (fits the criteria the Giants are looking for),Gaviglio (better NL fit) and rights to Bergen for some lottery picks that don't require 40 man spots.
hypobole - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 10:52 AM EDT (#370946) #
"Pillar...fits the criteria the Giants are looking for"

How so? Giants had an OBP of .300 last year. I'm sure Atkins talked to the Giants about Pillar, but other than being able to play CF,I don't see how he would be anything that fits.
Shoeless Joe - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 11:09 AM EDT (#370947) #
In 2018 Giants ranked 28th in CF defense last year by UZR and 30th in wRC+. Literally anything resembling a major league center fielder would be an upgrade, and with their payroll topped out they need a cheap and affordable outfielder who will help the expensive core they already have. I think I have been consistent in saying I would not give Pillar away without a fair return, but the Giants are an obvious fit.
Spifficus - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 11:22 AM EDT (#370948) #
To me, the Reds are a more obvious fit for Pillar, if/once they decide Schebler can't handle CF. The same goes for the Rockies and Ian Desmond. The Mets were a possibility before they picked up Broxton, and the Giants aren't likely to contend, so they're both in the next tier down to me. If the Phillies sour on Herrera's defense, there's a possibility there as well.
Spifficus - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 11:25 AM EDT (#370949) #
Whoops. I forgot about Senzel for the Reds, so they're less likely.
Nigel - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 12:07 PM EDT (#370950) #
Thank you Chuck, that made me chuckle. In all seriousness though, watching a Shapiro press conference is watching someone who is really good at the PR part of his job. The "audited" comment is a perfect example. That's hard spin (or elite spin rate:)), but you need to think about it a bit before you realize that. Very few people are able to do that. Compare it to an Atkins press conference. You generally end up feeling a little dirty afterwards - you can absolutely tell when he's spinning. I actually have no issue with spin - its all part of the job of senior management anywhere but particularly in media related businesses.
bpoz - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 02:02 PM EDT (#370951) #
For me Shapiro did not have to say anything because I have most concepts "fixed" in my mind. I can usually identify which concept he is talking about. But being confused is ok with me because I feel comfortable being with the majority.

I like to back up what I will say because that is the fair/honest thing to do. I thought he said something about their competition but can't find that info anymore. So if he really did. Then that was about competing with NYY and Boston.

I don't think he said anything about success on the field being related to winning. I feel confident he knows that because it is a simple concept that repeats itself. So it is best that he does not talk about it this year. Telling us that we are losing and are in the bottom half of the league standings is 80% bad. The 20% good would be the higher draft picks and draft budget. I don't get excited by that.

He never said much about last years Sept call ups while it was happening. Of course that is not his department. I really enjoyed that phase.

uglyone - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 02:34 PM EDT (#370952) #
honestly I don't think the spin helps. it's unnecessary and insulting.

just being honest here would work just as well, maybe better.
bpoz - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 03:11 PM EDT (#370953) #
Did anyone listen to the Jeff Blair show this morning? I did not. He spoke to some Jays. D Jansen. Somehow Montoyo ended up in it.
Until Bucholz is stretched out the rotation according to Montoyo is Stroman, Sanchez, Shoemaker, Borucki and Richard.
bpoz - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 03:52 PM EDT (#370954) #
I was checking some prospect stuff. Colorado sent us Bryan Baker in the Oh trade. RH relief pitcher who can throw 100 mph like Jackson McClelland.

I would love to see someone like that make our pen.

Chuck - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 04:08 PM EDT (#370955) #
just being honest here would work just as well, maybe better.

Not being sarcastic here, but what is his motivation to be honest? A dramatic change in behaviour will only be required if the current way of doing business proves terribly problematic. If the malarkey has no deleterious effect, apart from some grumbly fans calling bullshit, then what's to make it stop?

hypobole - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 04:15 PM EDT (#370956) #
I fail to see the dishonesty in what Shapiro said.
Michael - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 04:45 PM EDT (#370957) #
In the 2018 midterm election year political TV ads were less than 5% of the tv ad market. And drug companies are between 2-3%. That isn't nothing, but politics and drugs don't really cut it as excuses for spending on ads. If the related transactions were "audited" by the players association or the fans maybe it could be credible, but by other owners it is unlikely to be hard hitting and fair.
hypobole - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 04:53 PM EDT (#370958) #
What incentive would teams receiving revenue sharing, like the Rays, to simply rubber stamp Yankees/Red Sox and yes even the Jays broadcast revenues? Why would the Rays, or other cheap teams like the Marlins, Pirates etc. allow much wealthier teams to take money out of their pockets?
Nigel - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 04:59 PM EDT (#370959) #
hyperbole - you could ask the same question about why the smaller teams allowed MLB to change the draft system to the benefit of the large market teams (by largely removing the compensatory picks) or why MLB doesn't create a true international draft to eliminate the international free agent market (which again benefits the large market teams). There are many examples of MLB organizing its affairs to the benefit of the large market teams - not surprisingly.



Nigel - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 05:04 PM EDT (#370960) #
To be clear, I don't know all the ins and outs of advertising revenues. Maybe the Jays TV deal is FMV and maybe it isn't. Even adjusting for differences in the way US and Canadian ratings are calculated and for some "big picture" issues on how US and Canadian advertising dollars are spent, the Jays TV deal doesn't appear like FMV but that's all spitballing. What I do know is that when Shapiro said it was audited, that was spin and it was spin to create the impression that it has.
Nigel - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 05:32 PM EDT (#370961) #
Hypobole- sorry about the autocorrect on your user name.
85bluejay - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 05:37 PM EDT (#370962) #
I don't know all the reasons that revenue receiving teams may look the other way but for example there has been the widespread perception that small market teams pocket much of that revenue instead of using it to spend on players as its intended use - large market teams could demand a more thorough audit of that scheme - in the end it's the players losing out so I don't think the owners care unless something egregious like the Jays listing TV revenue as say 10m (Last I read the jays listed their sportnet revenue as 36m)
hypobole - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 06:23 PM EDT (#370963) #
Disagree on the compensatory picks. They were largely removed to (supposedly) benefit players. Rich teams now give up more and receive less for FA's. Opposite for revenue sharing recipients.

And the system now for IFA's prevents teams like the Yankees and Dodgers from blowing far past the supposed limits, like they have in the past. Draft won't make much difference to team, would just screw the kids even more than they do.
hypobole - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 06:35 PM EDT (#370964) #
Not many believers in Occam's Razor here.

Anyway, the one point will agree on is the political ads comment was misleading.
ayjackson - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 07:04 PM EDT (#370965) #
Sarcasm aside, no one here knows what level of audit is involved with intercompany transfer pricing. These owners are competing, however and I doubt they are going to "rubber stamp" NYY's funneling of margin off to YES instead of into revenue sharing and luxury tax. Also, speaking as someone who spent the last 11 years of my professional life at EY, the term "audit" may well fit the task, if they can determine that the pricing is reasonable in all material respects. This should be fairly simple with the available data benchmarking from sports and media consulting firms.
scottt - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 07:47 PM EDT (#370966) #
The US TV ad market has been around 60something billion for years.
The top source in 17-18 was Tech companies. Mostly telcos like AT&T.
In second you have Media companies, a bit redundant, but think Hulu or Sling.
Pharma is in a solid third place with over 6 billion. That's about 10% of the market, sorry Michael.

That wasn't an election year, but if Shapiro brought that up, it's probably because he has glossed over the YES numbers.

What does it mean for Sportsnet? The CRTC publishes their numbers.
If I look at the 2012-2016 charts, it's all over the place.
There are huge fluctuations. Kinda hard to put a value on anything.
For example, in 2016, the revenues were up by 50%.
Expenses were up likewise, so it's not like Rogers is just cashing it all.
Profits were up considerably, for sure, though.
About half the revenues are from subscriptions and half from advertising.
Maybe some of the money in the earnings section (less than 100M) could be moved to the expenses and go to the Jays (already over 400M).  Maybe they already overpay.
I bet last year's numbers tell a different story.

I don't know why you'd want a real audit firm looking at this.
Companies like Andersen Consulting or KPMG are nothing more than certified money launderers. .
They'll certify anything if you pay them.



scottt - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 07:58 PM EDT (#370967) #
It's the players union who has forced the ownership in regulating the International money and possibly the drafts. Same with draft pick compensation. I actually think the result is pretty good.
Starting with this year or next, the penalty for exceeding international pools goes up and the amount of money that can be transferred to teams like the Yankees go down. It's all good.
In the US, you can scout the top schools and college. In other countries, players don't go to college. They would have no leverage to negotiate if they were drafted. Team make large efforts in finding the players and developing them. It can get pretty messy outside the DR. Now Cuban players can be signed directly. The Jays for example have signed William Gaston, a 22 year old cousin of Sandy Gaston on December 20.

grjas - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 08:03 PM EDT (#370968) #
Companies like Andersen Consulting or KPMG are nothing more than certified money launderers. .
They'll certify anything if you pay them.

Now the conversation is becoming silly. Let the games begin.
scottt - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 08:12 PM EDT (#370969) #
The answers are predicated by the questions.
When are the Jays going to contend and when are the Jays going to spend more are terrible questions.
It's like at work when people ask if the layoffs are done. We've been doing layoffs for 19 years and we'll keep merging with other companies and laying people off on a quarterly basis. Why are you still asking?

Some people think the Jays could sign Kimbrel and flip him at the deadline.
Clearly, he wants a contract that will make him hard to move.
Harper was a 13 years commitment from the Phillies.
Would Rogers even let Shapiro do that? That could be  many years of dead money.




scottt - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 08:24 PM EDT (#370970) #
Silly but true.

Auditors are paid. Usually they are not neutral. When they are, they cost a fortune and will bill you excessively without justification. It's like the honor system. Except nobody audit them.

My son used to play baseball with the nephew of the Auditor General.
Nice people. Expensive lifestyle.

grjas - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 08:33 PM EDT (#370971) #
I was in the industry for decades. Lawsuits that exceed insurance limits come out of Partners’ pockets, which is pretty powerful motivator for getting it right.

Mistakes happen, but incompetent partners lose their licence, and corrupt partners can end up in jail, which happens from time to time.
grjas - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 08:43 PM EDT (#370972) #
And one more point, then I’ll be quiet. Audit work is independently reviewed by CPAB in Canada, and firms can be punished for poor results. Partners within a firm who perform poorly will have shares reduced or be terminated. There are lots of motivations for getting it right.
scottt - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 09:02 PM EDT (#370973) #
Let's just pursue the idea of an audit.

We're not talking about a criminal audit to determine if there is fraud.

Rogers, Sportsnet and the Blue Jays are vertically integrated businesses.
That's perfectly legal.

The broadcasting rights collected by the Blue Jays are subject to the MLB Revenue Sharing rule.
This creates a conflict of interest.
Because of this, it's in the interest of the MLB Revenue sharing recipients, that the Blue Jays receive "fair market value" for those rights. It's almost impossible to figure out what the actual market value is, because there are no other baseball club operating in Canada. It's not an actuarial calculation.
As long as the representatives of the Revenue Sharing recipients have no issue with the deal, everything is fine, because they are the conflicting interests. The fans who would like a bigger payroll are not.

scottt - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 09:24 PM EDT (#370974) #
Companies go to court for cooking the books and then charges are dropped and nobody goes to jail.
it's a sordid affair.

KPMG working with CRA to funnel money to off-shores account is blatantly criminal.
And nothing gets done about it.
Accounts gets leaked, the press talk about it. And nothing happens.They have a gala.
That is one 10 year ban I would have liked.

I've just mentioned 2 companies who are known to have broken the law without consequences.
Independent reviewers have no incentives to find faults.
It's like the Ombudsman for Banking Services who reports to the Banks and find no issues with 95% of complaints.

ayjackson - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 10:34 PM EDT (#370975) #
scottt, you're citing a group of individual partners who will or have been prosecuted if guilty. every firm likely has a few bad partners that are capable of fraud. my experience is the checks and double checks on independence/quality are incredible...to such a point that I know several partners at my former firm and others, good people who made small (legal) mistakes, that have been fired by the firms they work for because of the principles of independence or quality. the external and internal review process is exhausting and very stressful on the partners and their professional staff.

I've worked in government, in industry and for a Big 4 firm in my career, and without a doubt, the professionals I worked with at the Big 4 are the cream of the crop when it comes to competence, professionalism, and ethics.

The bad eggs usually get found out soon enough. I can't speak to what the public accounting world was like before Enron and Arthur Anderson, but when a firm is shuttered, it seems like the system works...and the regulation of the profession has been suffocating ever since.

i generally enjoy your contributions to the site, but your remarks on accounting firms are well wide of the mark.
jvictor - Wednesday, March 13 2019 @ 11:11 PM EDT (#370976) #
what would the the t.v. rights to the blue jays fetch on an open market? one of the biggest local t.v. markets in north america. add the r.o.c. and we're talking top 5. what are those t.v. rights worth?
John Northey - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 12:14 AM EDT (#370977) #
I'm guessing have 5 players at 60+ (potential All-Star) with one at Franchise Player level (Vlad..duh) is a rare thing. What do other teams have in that respect, or the Jays in the past? I don't have a BA subscription or I'd check.
hypobole - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 12:29 AM EDT (#370978) #
MLB and the MLBPA reached an agreement that there will be only 1 trade deadline, July 31, starting this year.

Next year, rosters will be 26 man, with max 13 pitchers. And September rosters will change from 40 to 28 man, 14 pitchers max.
grjas - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 02:16 AM EDT (#370979) #
I’m curious to see how the Stroman contract situation plays out. If he meets the highs of prior years, will they actively seek an extension or wait to flip himin July?

I still worry about the depth of our starters two or three years out and would prefer to see one proven veteran in the mix, provided he demonstrate that last year was an anomaly.
dan gordon - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 03:41 AM EDT (#370980) #
ayjackson - your comments about the integrity of the vast majority of audit professionals are bang on. Thank you, I was going to make a similar comment, but you said it very well. I am an accounting professional, and used to work in audit myself. It is a very tightly regulated and honest profession which serves a vital purpose in our society. Without audits, the financial statements of publicly traded companies would be totally unreliable, and investing would be impossible. You said scottt's remarks were well wide of the mark. I would add that I found them highly offensive.
AWeb - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 06:52 AM EDT (#370981) #
The 26 man roster change is a good change, given the limit on pitchers. 13 position players for 8 positions, plus a DH, seems like it should be enough.

Limiting the September rosters to 28 games also seems like a good idea to me. It does pass a basic test I like to apply - if you were starting from scratch where no expanded rosters happened at all, you'd never suggest adding up to 15 extra players, doubling the size of the bench and bullpen. Imagine if any other sport did that - like hockey going to 35 man rosters (20 is the limit now, + 3 healthy scratches) for a month, during the playoff push. The 40-man roster (most teams didn't use quite that many of course) makes some games almost unrecognizable, with pitching changes, pinch runners, pinch-hitters, etc. These in-game moves work best, in my opinion, when they are limited resources, so there's a real trade-off strategy to them.

Interesting trade-off for the players. A full-time roster spot year-round versus losing maybe 100 extra MLB roster spots for a month. Seems like a big change to happen outside a union deal negotiation.
85bluejay - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 07:09 AM EDT (#370982) #
I would have preferred to keep the September rosters at 40, limiting 28 active for a game - allowing young players to still get a feel for the big league life while limiting all the in game changes.
blu-j - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 07:28 AM EDT (#370983) #
I may have missed the link to the story covering the proposed changes.  Here's one to the ESPN article (they focused on the $1 million bonus for the HR Derby, but they eventually discuss the other changes).
The one I found most interesting is the three-batter minimum for pitchers, along with the limitations for position players pitching.
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26259301/sources-mlb-deal-includes-1m-hr-derby-bonus
No more one-batter righty/lefty specialists?
scottt - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 07:57 AM EDT (#370984) #
The right thing to do for teams not in the playoffs will be to simply release players on the first day of September to make room in the 28 roster. For example, last year, Clippard and Estrada could have been released. Maybe you can sent a guy like Borucki down on the last day of August to make room for SRF. Maybe you want to see less of Biagini and more of Paulino. This would make me more weary of long contracts. On a one year deal, you can release anyone. This also gives you an excuse for not bringing up Guerrero Jr, there's no room left on the roster and we really want to have a look at X and Y.

The elimination of the August trade deadline is more interesting.
Players get injured in August too. Teams will probably acquire super utility guys in July and an extra pitcher, just in case. Does McCutchen gets traded to the Yankees a month earlier or does he go somewhere else for less while the Bombers are forced to play one of their top outfield prospects, like Florial out of A+? Who wants to start the clock this early?


scottt - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 08:07 AM EDT (#370985) #
I wonder why they want to make the bases bigger. Because of Machado?
Or is it to help the runners keep contact on the base after a steal?

I think the most predictable outcome of changing the mound in the middle of the year will be that you do not want to change the mound in the middle of the year. Other words, pitchers will struggle to throw strikes.

I love the robo ump though.
I can't wait to see an elite pitcher throwing a fit because he doesn't like a call.
It should advantage hitters. The good hitters don't rely on strikes being called balls and they swing if it's close.
scottt - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 08:20 AM EDT (#370986) #
They have Buchholtz to flip. I'd be surprised if they trade both Stroman and Sanchez.

Stroman get the opening day start. That's the right call.
Solid 4+ innings yesterday.
Paulino couldn't get an out yesterday against Baltimore.
Again, they scored 3 against Cashner but did little against the AAA pitching.

Logically, Baltimore will try hard to move Cobb, Cashner and Bundy and then focus on free agents on 1 year deals. It's probably going to be a buyer's market for starters.

AWeb - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 08:43 AM EDT (#370987) #
How many deadline deals happen because of injuries occurring during August? Although I'm sure it didn't happen for this reason (the players or owners must have put some value on it), I think this is a fan friendly change. It should make it harder for teams to give up and trade their best players, and provide roster continuity.

I agree with 85bluejay on preferring a 40 man roster with 28 active, but I can see why owners would fight that one - why pay a MLB salary to a non-player? I don't mind the trade-offs on the roster.

Moving the mound back mid-season in the Atlantic League will be chaotic for at least a few games, with pitches trying to adjust and hitters having to work out the new timing (ever go from fast-pitch to slow pitch softball?) but I can't see any scenario where it doesn't help hitters long-term. The basic idea is that the further back pitchers get, the easier it is for hitters. The problem, such as it is in MLB, isn't total runs scored, it's the way those runs are being scored (HRs instead of consecutive non-HR hits). Runs per game are pretty much historically normal, despite the ever-increasing K rates, because increased HR rates are offsetting it. More mound distance seems like it should increase walks, decrease strikeouts, and make it easier to hit the ball harder. Does bunting suddenly become more viable too? The other changes the Atlantic league will test out (removing shifts, limiting mound visits, 3 batter minimum) also seem like they would, if anything, marginally increase offense.

Not sure about the robo-umps - the current strikezone is called more like a circle than a rectangle. The upper corners of the zone, especially, might be a bigger pitching weapon if they are strikes more often. Might end being a pretty neutral change.

Larger bases is just odd...not sure what consequences flow from that, or even what issue is being addressed. More bag space for ads?
uglyone - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 09:22 AM EDT (#370988) #
They should just get rid of the mound altogether.

Not sure why there's a need to give the pitchers that unfair advantage.

Imagine there was a hitting mound?
Mike Green - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 09:34 AM EDT (#370989) #
Moving the mound back is a weird one.  If it sticks (and I don't know whether it will), I wonder whether one impact will be to incentivize the fine-fielding ground ball pitcher.  I think of someone like Marcus Stroman.  If he's 2 feet further back, he can get a fair number of balls up the middle.  This would presumably allow slight adjustments to positioning so the other fielders get more of the balls in the 3-4 and 5-6 holes. 
85bluejay - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 10:17 AM EDT (#370990) #
Grichuk not in lineup again today - only 10Ab this spring - definitely a worry - that planter fasciitis problem may mean a DH stint to start season.
cascando - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 10:20 AM EDT (#370991) #
" They should just get rid of the mound altogether. Not sure why there's a need to give the pitchers that unfair advantage."

That's sort of a weird way to look at it. Why does the strike zone only extend across a portion of the hitter's body? Why does a foul ball count as a strike? Why isn't the plate wider? Why do you get 4 balls but only 3 strikes? Why aren't the fences 100 feet tall?

The beauty of baseball is the balance. The spike in strikeouts and HR appears to be throwing things off a bit, from what we're used to, so it's natural (and positive) that those in charge are considering adjustments.

bpoz - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 10:28 AM EDT (#370992) #
The 2017 WC teams were NYY and Twins. But on July 20, 2017, the wins for Boston 54, TB 51 and NYY 49. The last 4 AL teams were Jays 44, Oakland & Detroit 43 and CWS 38.

CWS definitely out of it. TB and NYY held the 2 WCs. Baltimore was at 46 with 5 teams ahead of them for the 2nd WC. So maybe Baltimore is still in it. IMO there would be disappointment in Baltimore if they sold at the July 31 deadline.They did manage to take the AL East basement from the Jays on the last day. I think.

I think things can become very fascinating with only 1 trade deadline. Any thoughts?
uglyone - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 10:33 AM EDT (#370993) #
I don't see the mound as the same as those rules at all.

what purpose does the mound serve?
cascando - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 11:12 AM EDT (#370994) #
Well, that's kind of my point. What "purpose" do any of these rules serve except to help establish the balance between offence and defence? Change any of them and the balance will shift.

You note that it is an advantage for the pitcher to get to stand on a mound. Well... yes. If you get rid of the mound, and move the rubber in 5 feet, is that suddenly fair? Or maybe get rid of the rubber as well. Sort of unfair that a pitcher gets to generate velocity by pushing off a rubber.

Anyway, one objectively cool thing about a pitcher's mound is that it makes breaking balls both more possible and more impressive. That would be tough to lose.


AWeb - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 11:12 AM EDT (#370995) #
The mound provides an advantage to the pitchers* (extra velocity, steeper angle of pitches) that, if you wanted to offset it in a situation with no mound, would require the pitcher to be closer to home. Given how dangerous it already is on the mound, being closer would be that much more dangerous.

*We know, most obviously, that higher pitching mounds advantage the pitcher because when they lowered (standardized really) the mounds in 1969 5 inches, runs jumped by 0.6 runs per team.
uglyone - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 11:20 AM EDT (#370996) #
the point is that the mound always seemed like a weirdly artifical advantage. not to mention a dangerous obstacle in the middle of the field.

so if we're trying to rebalance offense vs pitching, why not just get rid of the mound? at least we wouldn't have to worry about players injuring themselves on it.

we didn't need mounds when I was a kid. we did need bases. we did need balls and strikes. we did need foul lines.

mounds? completely unnecessary.
James W - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 11:46 AM EDT (#370997) #
https://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/pitcher%27s_mound
bpoz - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 11:48 AM EDT (#370998) #
We must keep the mound. Stroman and Pardhino are short pitchers. This weakens our rotation IMO.
uglyone - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 12:08 PM EDT (#370999) #
nice link, james.

so mounds were just created by teams to give their guys an advantage. makes sense.
hypobole - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 12:59 PM EDT (#371000) #
I imagine the moving back the mound idea is two-fold. First is to give a bit more advantage to hitters. But from a safety standpoint, it gives pitchers an extra split-second to avoid line drive rockets hit right at them.
AWeb - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 12:59 PM EDT (#371001) #
It does occur to me that if you take out the mound, pitchers would be a lot more likely to be on balance when they follow through and thus less likely to be victims of a 110mph line drive. But you'd still have to move them closer to not make it easier for the hitters (less velocity, easier pitching angle), which I think would make it more dangerous overall.

Not sure how mound-related injuries are a concern. I don't recall anyone getting hurt tripping over the mound area, it's just not in play very often.

The weird thing with the possible rule changes is that MLB is in a perfectly normal place in terms of total offense, and nothing that is being proposed would do anything obvious to promote a different hitting strategy (currently: try for HRs, don't worry about Ks). Taking away the shift, for instance, helps sluggers the most since contact hitters aren't generally shifted much. Same goes for lowering Ks through another means - it's the most helpful to those who strike out a lot already.

Making pitching and defense harder (further mound, no mound, no extreme shifts, fewer pitching changes) could lead to another silly-ball era. That's fine I suppose, I enjoyed high scoring baseball too, but it's not typically a stated goal even though it's implicit in everything proposed. The one thing MLB can do, and has always denied doing on purpose, is deaden the ball, just to 2014 levels, when scoring was at a recent low point.
bpoz - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 02:02 PM EDT (#371002) #
The Vegas odds were posted. Jays 74 wins? Would they change their odds/prediction at the end of May? About 50 games played.

I am not thinking about the Jays so much as the NYY. Severino and Sabathia have not pitched at all in ST. Tanaka, Paxton and Happ are the vets. L Cessa and J Loaisiga have pitched a lot in ST. I don't know who will actually be their 4th and 5th starters. It could be a weak rotation. Happ may do 200 innings. Tanaka most likely not. Paxton too is iffy for 200 innings.
dalimon5 - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 02:46 PM EDT (#371003) #
I wonder if there's any studied analysis of correlation between mound distance and Tommy John. I can see the epidemic being a motivator to change things for health of pitcher but can't see (yet) how mound location would affect things.
uglyone - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 03:22 PM EDT (#371004) #
how about correlation with mound height? anyone?

here's a start:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080323210203.htm

"....The study focused on determining if there is increased stress on the shoulder or the elbow based on the height from which the pitcher has thrown. A kinematic analysis provided information regarding pitching motion (position and velocity), while the kinetic analysis determined the forces and torques generated at the shoulder and elbow.

"We found that compared to flat ground, pitchers using a 10-inch mound experience an increase in superior shear and adduction torque in the shoulder -- meaning there's a greater amount of stress on the joint surface and surrounding structures. That greater stress may result in injury to the shoulder including tearing of the rotator cuff or labrum which may result in surgery and long-term rehabilitation. It also can make it difficult for the athlete to replicate the same throw and develop a consistent strike," Dr. Raasch says.

"The most notable kinematic difference was the increase in shoulder external rotation at foot contact. This probably represents a change in the timing of the foot contact relative to arm position, because the foot lands earlier in the pitch delivery during flat ground throwing than with a slope," he says.

While the study did not result in enough data to recommend reducing the 10-inch mound height, which became standard in 1968 and also used in college and high school baseball, Dr. Raasch says the findings give trainers information that can help them determine if pitchers would be better off practicing on flat ground especially after an injury...."
uglyone - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 03:33 PM EDT (#371005) #
what other sport has a raised area for one player, anyways?

I always found it weird.
grjas - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 04:32 PM EDT (#371006) #
I’d prefer if they outlaw the shift. The game has deteriorated into Strikeouts and home runs as hitters focus on launch angles and long balls. I miss the singles, hit and runs and SB’s that made the game more interesting, at least in my opinion. The change is not solely due to shifting, but it does have an impact.
Gerry - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 04:52 PM EDT (#371007) #
Opening day is two weeks from today. Starting pitchers are now going deeper into games and most relievers are major leaguers or pitchers on the bubble. That means that hitters are facing better pitching and hitters performance from here on is more relevant than what they have done to this point.

Summary: It's time to start paying attention to the box scores.
AWeb - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 05:37 PM EDT (#371008) #
Outlawing the shift helps the players who go after longballs more than anyone else. Similar to lowering Ks helping those who strikeout the most, making pull-side grounders more valuable helps dead pull hitters the most. Players who spray the ball for singles aren't shifted against, it won't change anything for them.If a singles hitter can't crack the lineup now, they have even less chance if the power hitters get another advantage.
scottt - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 06:14 PM EDT (#371009) #
The rotation will be Stroman, Shoemaker, Sanchez, Borucki and Richard until Bh gets stretched enough.
Grichuk hasn't played in a long time now.

Kacy Clemens pinched ran for Morales and scored the Jays run.
Haven't heard of him since the bar incident.
Mayza and Biagini have been good so far.
Luciano was the first guy out of the pen and got 5 outs today.
Bud Norris hasn't been in a game yet.


scottt - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 06:26 PM EDT (#371010) #
The reason to outlaw the shift is to prevent pull hitters from putting the ball in  play and making a quick out. That's only needed because those hitters will swing for the fences on every pitch.
Gerry - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 08:41 PM EDT (#371011) #
There was some action in spring training today. From Ben Nicholson Smith at Sportsnet:

Thursday, Blue Jays closer Ken Giles threw an accountability bomb in a morning pitchers defensive drill, which focused on sprinting off the mound and covering first base. Seeing that 25-year-old right-hander David Paulino, who looked uninterested in his relief stint Wednesday in Sarasota and couldn’t get out of his inning, was skipping his turn, Giles exploded. He walked over to Paulino, got in his face and unleashed a volley of expletives (actually, it was one expletive – the universal one – repeated over and over and over again) pointing out that he (Giles) had taken part in the drills and had done so again after screwing up the first time. Giles suggested that Paulino might want to take part if he wanted to be part of the team (in a manner of speaking) before Marcus Stroman and bench coach Dave Hudgens intervened.
ayjackson - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 08:51 PM EDT (#371012) #
No Smiles Giles?
AWeb - Thursday, March 14 2019 @ 09:46 PM EDT (#371013) #
"The reason to outlaw the shift is to prevent pull hitters from putting the ball in  play and making a quick out. That's only needed because those hitters will swing for the fences on every pitch."
Right, but they aren't going to stop swinging for the fences every pitch if more of the "failures" become singles, they'll just get better overall results. These guys already made the majors hitting this way. Players in that mold who are currently marginal major leaguers become a bit more valuable. More of those players make the rosters. So for individual hitters it will increase singles a little bit, but it would force out marginal singles hitters in favour of all or nothing guys who can suddenly hit .225 instead of .210. The overall effect on MLB would be more HRs and fewer singles.
grjas - Friday, March 15 2019 @ 03:49 AM EDT (#371014) #
Well based on this research it does lower batting averages and reduces singles.

https://www.mlb.com/news/9-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-shift-c276706888

But I think there is a psychological impact as well on some hitters ... as per the article- “There's a few reasons for all the home runs in baseball these days, and the shift may be one of them. Justin Turnersaid as much when we asked last year, when he said "you don't beat the shift by hitting around it or through it, you beat the shift by hitting over it."


Ie hit it where they ain’t now means over the wall.
scottt - Friday, March 15 2019 @ 06:16 AM EDT (#371015) #
Both Paulino and Giles came from the Astros for Osuna.
There's probably some history there.

Paulino could not get an out on Wednesday and might be working his way off the active roster.

scottt - Friday, March 15 2019 @ 06:29 AM EDT (#371016) #
It's disingenuous to suggest that pull hitters are trying to hit ground ball singles through the infield.
The shift works because the hitters have no answers for it. They will tell you themselves that they are not changing anything in their approach. Any adjustment that doesn't bring a counter adjustment will be successful.

The pitcher adjusts to the shift by throwing outside, the hitter counters by crowding the plate.
There's little else the pitcher can do and many are afraid to throw high and inside.

Even with the new rule, you can still adjust by moving the outfielders.
I'm not sure if the Atlantic league has enough power hitters to be a valid testbed.
How often is the shift used there compared to MLB?

At any rate, we still have at least 3 years of shifting to enjoy and complain about.

bpoz - Friday, March 15 2019 @ 08:50 AM EDT (#371017) #
As Gerry said the real games start soon.

I would like a 2nd capable closer. Many of us are kind of ok with only winning 75 games. Stroman and Montoyo are against that. It seems.

Giles our most likely closer probably leaves in about 3 years. D Phelps signed a contract that has closer incentives. Probably the whole pen will be changed in 3 years.
PeterG - Friday, March 15 2019 @ 09:18 AM EDT (#371018) #
The plan may be for Giles to leave in July.
bpoz - Friday, March 15 2019 @ 10:27 AM EDT (#371019) #
Giles is not a FA until after 2020 I think. He is a good closer. If he can do that until July 31, how good a return does he fetch?
Thomas - Friday, March 15 2019 @ 10:37 AM EDT (#371020) #
Paulino's been reported to have makeup concerns, to use a general term, going back to his days in Houston, which had been reported on prior to his suspension. If you had word there was going to be an incident between two teammates at spring training, I think Giles and Paulino would both have been on the short list of the players most likely to have been involved.
Mike Green - Friday, March 15 2019 @ 10:39 AM EDT (#371021) #
Randal Grichuk is in right field and leading off today.  Perfect time for Charlie Montoyo to try that.  I think we are about to learn how significant good field management is (it's worth about 2 wins, I think).  The over/under on Blue Jay wins is 73/74.  I'd  take the over because of Montoyo- I think that they'll get about 76 as he is going to make the most of the roster. 

When the starting rotation was announced, it was Stroman, Sanchez, Shoemaker, Borucki and Richard.  It paves the way for Buchholz to replace Richard when Buchholz is ready.(assuming that there aren't any other injuries before then).  That should be a decent rotation. 
rafael - Friday, March 15 2019 @ 11:34 AM EDT (#371022) #
Spring performances to March 15 make me think
- Tellez and Alfred's upsides are higher than off season ratings
- Bichette more of a sure thing
- Luciano has upside but so many fluid variables on keeping him - interesting to watch week by week.
Nigel - Friday, March 15 2019 @ 01:27 PM EDT (#371023) #
Mike, I hope you are right. Montoyo’s lineup and in game management choices will be significantly enhanced if the Jays management accepts that they shouldn’t have 3 DH/1B on the roster (Smoak, Morales and Hernandez). Obviously, I’d just release Morales, but moving on from any one or two of the three would make sense.
Mike Green - Friday, March 15 2019 @ 02:42 PM EDT (#371024) #
I'm pretty sure that Hernandez will get the RH side of the corner OF platoon.  The best thing is if he gets an equal number of PAs or more as DH, with Morales getting half (or fewer) starts and some pinch-hitting work.  It's workable with all three, but of course, I'd prefer if Hernandez and Tellez were on the big club at the start of the season. 
lexomatic - Friday, March 15 2019 @ 02:46 PM EDT (#371025) #
I'm not sure Grichuck has the skills to lead off, but well see.I still like Tellez and Alford, but competition hasn't been great, so spring performances for what they're worth,
Aren't especially useful.
Gerry - Friday, March 15 2019 @ 03:53 PM EDT (#371026) #
Today in games that matter a little more...Kevin Pillar was the only hitter with two hits, one a home run. Freddy Galvis homered too. Grichuk, Maile and Teoscar started and were hitless.

Borucki, Thornton, Bud Norris and Tepera pitched well. John Axford took the loss by allowing four baserunners and two runs in the ninth while recording just one out.
hypobole - Friday, March 15 2019 @ 05:33 PM EDT (#371027) #
Starting pitching is seeming to be a strength. Haven't heard of any red flags - velocity loss, mechanical issues, injury.
hypobole - Friday, March 15 2019 @ 05:36 PM EDT (#371028) #
Just to clarify, by strength, I mean in comparison to the other aspects of our roster, not in comparison to elite starting staffs.
scottt - Friday, March 15 2019 @ 08:58 PM EDT (#371029) #
Thornton made a name for himself by beaning Harper on the right ankle.
Ouch. Harper had only played 3 games and was 0 for 5.
That's gotta hurt the Phillies.

Norris had 2 Ks.
Axford seems back to his Jekkyl and Hyde routine.


scottt - Friday, March 15 2019 @ 09:14 PM EDT (#371030) #
I don't know if Montoyo is going to squeeze more wins out of the lineup.
I'm just expecting the games to be more fun to watch because of better strategy.

What plays in the 73.5 win prediction is the rotation.
If healthy, Stroman/Sanchez/Shoemake/Borucki and Buchholtz bring the team win to 80+.
At this point, I have no idea what the other starters will do. They've stockpiled the arms in  Buffalo, so it should be better than replacement level. Still, the odds are that the starters will not all be healthy and that the substitutes will be replacement level.

If I had to put money at this point, I'd hedge to 77 wins, but I'll be disappointed if they don't finish over .500.


SK in NJ - Friday, March 15 2019 @ 09:25 PM EDT (#371031) #
I am very curious to see if better positioning, more shifting, etc, will lead to better individual defense, especially for players like Teoscar who seemed to be much worse than advertised defensively since coming over.

I share the optimism about Montoyo. I'm not expecting him to be a miracle worker, but I think more often than not he will be getting the most out of the roster he is given. Of course time will tell.
dan gordon - Friday, March 15 2019 @ 09:59 PM EDT (#371032) #
I have no opinion on Montoyo as a manager, as I have never seen him manage. Let's see what he does in the first month or so. The starting pitching is starting to look like it may be a pretty strong group, once you add Buchholz and dump Richard. If Stroman, Sanchez and Buchholz have healthy seasons, the Jays' starters could be in the top 6 or so in the league, and the bullpen looks decent. Lots of power, not much on base ability. Maybe 80 wins is possible with good health. If they were in another division, with the easier schedule that would bring, I'd say 80+ wins was a good bet.
Dr B - Saturday, March 16 2019 @ 01:03 AM EDT (#371033) #
once you add Buchholz and dump Richard

Depends what you mean by dump I suppose. There’s no good reason to put him in the rotation unless you are a fan of high scoring games. Righties have enjoyed his hospitality for a career OPS of 820. On the other hand, he has a career OPS of 625 against lefties, and it was 663 last year. I think one could find a use for that.
dan gordon - Saturday, March 16 2019 @ 04:53 AM EDT (#371034) #
Well, I mean replacing him in the rotation with Buchholz.
bpoz - Saturday, March 16 2019 @ 10:07 AM EDT (#371035) #
A few words come to mind when describing the Opening Day rotation and its make up for this year.

A work in progress.
Transition.

Stroman, Sanchez, Shoemaker and Richard are all veterans. Buchhulz is another veteran that may join mid April. The potential is there that none of them are Jays after the trade deadline.

Borucki leads a group of young SPs breaking into the Majors.

Panonne is part of a large group of SPs who IMO are "less shiny". A pleasant surprise should emerge.
scottt - Saturday, March 16 2019 @ 12:07 PM EDT (#371036) #
Who knows what the market for starter will look like at the trade deadeline?
Right now it looks very weak with Keuchel and Gio Gonzales still unsigned.

Buchholtz is on a one year deal, but he'll have to provide value before I mourn his departure.
Richard is on the last year of his contract, but that's kinda moot given his track record and age.
Shoemaker, Stroman and Sanchez all have an extra year of arbitration left.
One could be traded, maybe 2, but the Jays will need value back,
The rules will change against before the 2022 season, but they Jays could offer a QO and negotiate an extension before any of these guys walk, and it would take a big return to part with Stroman and Sanchez given the status of those guys with the fans and where the team will be, that is, in need of ready arms not A ball prospects.

The team will need an ace soon and if not one of those guys, someone expensive on the free agent market.

For now, we see how well they pitch.

uglyone - Saturday, March 16 2019 @ 12:22 PM EDT (#371037) #
i like grichuk up top. a) he's one of our better hitters, b) even if his obp isn't great, he still sees a ton of pitches and has the right approach.
Mylegacy - Saturday, March 16 2019 @ 04:44 PM EDT (#371038) #
Not that the YES Network paid much attention to it...

I got the chance to see in person: Luis De La Santos, Joshua Palacios, Otto Lopez, Christian Williams, Ty Tice, Jake Brodt, Corey Copping, Brandon Grudzielanek, Gunner Heidt and Ryan Noda.

One of the things I really like about spring training is seeing guys I rarely (if ever) see in uniform on a field doing something. There may have been more BUT that's all I caught.
scottt - Saturday, March 16 2019 @ 05:27 PM EDT (#371039) #
Bichette keeps looking good out there.

Nothing to write home about today, but at least nothing worth getting death threats over either.

JohnL - Saturday, March 16 2019 @ 10:40 PM EDT (#371040) #
A quick circle-back to the CBA negotiations:

I'd be in favour of a clause that elimanates, or seriously restricts the use of the phrase "How [he/I] go[es] about [his/my] business."
lexomatic - Saturday, March 16 2019 @ 11:57 PM EDT (#371041) #
John I suspect that has more to do with hiring criteria favoring certain visual and auditory criteria instead of good language skills . A lot of butchery in sports media. Though a poet friend works at the Score, so...
scottt - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 08:01 AM EDT (#371042) #
I missed that Florial broke his wrist again.

Apparently there's a battle between Urena and Sogard for the 25th roster spot.
Sogard' s ability as a 4th outfielder could be the determining factor, even though Drury has played as an outfielder.

Travis seems to have difficulty walking and is probably heading to the 60DL.

It seems that McKinney and Grichuk will platoon in the lead off spot.

So it seems that Pompey's last chance would be for Pillar to be traded.

Thomas - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 09:57 AM EDT (#371043) #
The Jays acquired Jason Adam from the Royals for cash considerations. Adam is another candidate for the bullpen, although I imagine he's more of a depth pickup and is likely heading for Triple-A.

According to Shi Davidi, Travis underwent surgery for a small meniscus tear, which makes the 60-day DL sound very likely, and Mark Leiter Jr. has undergone Tommy John surgery and is out for the year.
scottt - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 10:39 AM EDT (#371044) #
Adam has good peripherals. Seems to have 2 options left .
He's looked good in the spring so far.
There must be a catch somewhere. He has a history of multiple serious arm injures, maybe KC is afraid to pay him while on the DL?

scottt - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 10:46 AM EDT (#371045) #
I suppose Sogard would only be on the 25 until Guerrero comes up.
Bichette is probably the long term solution at the top of the order.
For this year though, Guerrero will start in the bottom of the lineup and work his way up and Bichette will spent at least most of the year in Buffalo.



hypobole - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 11:26 AM EDT (#371046) #
From Walden/Rosenthal at the Athletic - Jays are finalizing a 50% pay increase for all their minor league players, the first MLB team to do so.

Might not go over well with some of the other billionare owners, but kudos to Rogers and Shapiro for taking the initiative on this matter.

https://theathletic.com/872732/2019/03/17/blue-jays-ready-to-embrace-change-finalizing-minor-league-pay-increase-of-more-than-50-percent/
bpoz - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 11:46 AM EDT (#371047) #
Great news hypobole. I am proud of ownership and management.

Rogers has smart accountants who should be able to expense it for tax purposes.

Our young prospects may get stronger and become better athletes as well.
Mike Green - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 12:00 PM EDT (#371048) #
Yes. Kudos to the Jays FO for doing the right thing on minor league salaries. Progress.
hypobole - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 12:12 PM EDT (#371049) #
Rogers has smart accountants who should be able to expense it for tax purposes.

Some of it. If it's a cost neutral move (or anywhere close to it), it would have been done long ago and other teams would have done it as well. Instead, MLB lobbyists paid to get the "Save America's Pastime Act" through Congress to prevent players from getting anywhere close to fair pay.
scottt - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 12:36 PM EDT (#371050) #
Minor league teams are sometimes owned directly by the big clubs, but most of the time, they are independent franchises with low revenues.

In this case, if the money comes from Rogers, it's a legit business expense.
However, corporate tax rates are pretty low.

The fair pay part is different from a living wage, because the minors, especially the low minors, is a form of apprenticeship. Many states have no minimum wages anyway.

Personally, I'm more concerned about the guys struggling to get by after signing a 5K bonus than the players who only get a few million, so I like it.

Richard S.S. - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 12:37 PM EDT (#371051) #
As long as Players stay healthy anyone can pick the 25-Man Roster. I don’tknow when split-squad games stop for the Jays, but would like them to continue. Too many Pitcher need innings, too many Hitters need ABs with not enough to go around. Will Giles and Norris get enough innings to be effective for Day 1? That’s my biggest concern.
hypobole - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 12:44 PM EDT (#371052) #
Minor league teams are sometimes owned directly by the big clubs, but most of the time, they are independent franchises with low revenues.

The independent franchises have nothing to do with players salaries. Salaries are 100% paid by MLB teams.
hypobole - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 01:58 PM EDT (#371053) #
"because the minors, especially the low minors, is a form of apprenticeship."

This is the argument MLB used to get the SAPA passed. But what exactly are non-prospect org guys apprenticing for? Almost all have zero chance of becoming MLB players, no matter how much time or effort they put in.
Spifficus - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 02:55 PM EDT (#371054) #
It's so that, after they get their journeyman baseball practitioner, they can strike off on their own and open their own baseball organization, obviously. How else are you supposed to have any faith in their product?
scottt - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 05:05 PM EDT (#371055) #
I'm with you, but real org guys have a half-decent pay.
One issue is relocation costs, which affects married guys and guys being traded/promoted back and forth. The org guys are usually more stable. They're more likely to go on 7DL to accommodate the team then to go down to the other half of the country.

It's the late round draft picks and the cheap free agents who struggle while chasing a dream.

scottt - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 05:21 PM EDT (#371056) #
Well, honestly, I don't think counting the hours and paying overtime after 40 hours will ever fly.
That's pretty uncommon in the US.
I'm in Canada and we lost overtime pay even before HQ moved to the US.
The first year under the American regime, we got  Time Away from Work instead of vacations--which mean you get to use your vacations days for sick days just like the American employees.

But there's no reason for the wages to be less than 2K per months and rise from there.

grjas - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 05:22 PM EDT (#371057) #
So it seems that Pompey's last chance would be for Pillar to be traded.

Here’s hoping. Jays already have a roster crunch before Guerrero arrives. Give Pompey a real chance and if he drops the ball..so to speak..hopefully Alford is ready in a few months. If you move Grichuk to centre, surely one of McKinney, Pompey or Alford can at least produce Pillar type numbers.
Shoeless Joe - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 06:35 PM EDT (#371058) #
It is fantastic to see the Jays showing some leadership ion getting their players closer to a living wage. I found the comments by Cherington very encouraging and the Jays are lucky to have him in the fold.

There is no chance of a Pillar trade or Pomey making this team, people need to move on from that notion. I even wonder if he could clear waivers at this point, maybe Baltimore puts in a claim?

I also think Travis is pretty much done with this franchise. He simply can’t stay healthy and there are a host of options at his position.
James W - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 06:51 PM EDT (#371059) #
If you can be bold enough to say there's no chance of a Pillar trade, then I'll be bold enough to say there's no chance of Pompey clearing waivers.
Shoeless Joe - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 07:32 PM EDT (#371060) #
I’ll stand by the zero percent chance of a pillar trade before opening day. I think a Morales release is more likely, but even that is a reach.

If anything I think Pompey gets claimed and waived by several teams trying to sneak him through waivers. He has faded hard in spring, has not been consistently healthy, and all the projections have him as a replacement level player. He needs a year in AAA to prove himself.
scottt - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 07:32 PM EDT (#371061) #
Travis can go to the 60DL, and then rehab for a while. After that, you can probably outright him without anyone staking a claim.

I wouldn't say there is no chance of a Pillar trade. For sure, it's pretty slim.
If Pillar stay you have to sit him occasionally to get other guys in the outfield.
Grichuk can play center, but I'm not too excited bout McKinney or Hernandez in right field.
Also, when the roster goes up to 26, a guy with speed is a good fit on the bench.

Grichuk looked good today and Alford has been better than Pompey.
Maybe this goes down to the last day, in case someone gets injured.
A lot of teams will try to pass guys through waivers at the same time.
But if they got something for Smith, they could do the same with Pompey.

Gerry - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 07:36 PM EDT (#371062) #
From the "games are close to getting real" department.....Dalton Pompey and Anthony Alford were red hot in the first week but have cooled a lot since then. Neither are pushing their way onto the team.

Bo Bichette has been consistently hot through the spring and Cavan Biggio has been hitting well more recently. Rowdy Tellez has also been consistent.

On the pitching side Thomas Pannone, Corey Copping and David Paulino have been hit around. Among established players Ryan Tepera has been poor.

Danny Barnes and Sam Gaviglio are trying to get on the team and both have been pitching well. Even though SRF is headed for Buffalo, he has been pitching well too.
Shoeless Joe - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 08:02 PM EDT (#371063) #
Bichette for me has really stood out this spring and has really hit the ball hard, and his athleticism is better than I expected. I think Tellez is the other guy who looks like a major league hitter out there.
Richard S.S. - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 09:12 PM EDT (#371064) #
My ALS only allows me use of my left arm and I’m a natural righty. My left arm use is decreasing so I might not be writing here much more.

That said, the Jays can make room on the 40-man for Norris by Merryweather on the 60-Day DL. They can also make room for Axford by SFAing Pompey. Those are the most likely things that the Jays can do. Norris will be added soon, but Axford need not be until after Montreal when many Players get DFAed.
Mylegacy - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 09:39 PM EDT (#371065) #
Gerry and Joe

I think Bo is my new "precious." I predict I will have fonder thoughts for Bo on my deathbed than I will for Vlad. AND - I suspect Vlad may make it to the Hall. I believe Bo will too!

Tellez continues to impress me. Day in day out. Smoak also impresses me - day in day out. I've a soft spot for Morales. A true "professional hitter." Morales looks like a Molina (YA - I know he's not a catcher but he's slow enough, ugly enough and fat enough to be one). I do love Molina's. One's team can never have too many Molinas. Sigh. Having said that I think I'm ready to keep Tellez and Smoak. Mr. Morales I love ya, but I want both Justin and Rowdy going forward.

I think in time - perhaps later this year - Alford might become a Grichuk. Grichuk is three years older and has a plethora of flaws and a few niffty tools. Alford would bring at least power and speed (and OK+ defense). Give him this year and lets see if he can climb the hill and sit on the flagpole. As painful as that image seems to be.

On the farm the pitching has some pretty trinkets and enough semi-shiny toys that at least one or two of the reasonably vast second level might surprise. Over the next two plus years at least a few of the second tier will have to force the issue for the team to have "good" pitching depth as things stand today.

The pretty trinkets are in the order I think their careers will end up from 1st to 3rd: Nate Pearson 22, RHP, 6'6" 245, Adam Kloffenstein 18, RHP, 6'5" 243, Eric "Stroman 2" Pardinho, 18 RHP, 5' 10", 155.

The semi-shiny tools include (in no coherent, thoughtful, statistical order): Sean Reid Foley, Yennsy Diaz, Hector Perez, T.Z. Zeuch, Pat Murphy, Jacob Waguespack, Zack Jackson, Jackson McClelland, Maverik Buffo (the name alone makes the list!), Zach Logue, Justin Maese (IF healthy - ever), Sean Wymer and probably about five or six more I'm forgetting.

Among the position players presently on hand I think a few of the following will become something more than we think they are now: Drury, Gurriel, Tellez, Urena, Alford, Grichuk, Hernandez and Pompey. I like that collection - I see some serious upside there.

I also see that Humans are genetically 98% Chimpanzee and that we swim in more or less the same "hormone soup" that makes both species laugh, cry, rape and kill. We Humans so desperately need to extend our "empathy" so that we can see beyond our race, tribe, god and or cult to appreciate the rainbow of races, cultures, and visions that makes our journey on Space Ship Earth so spectacular an adventure. At least while if can still support life.

Um... I sorta got off topic there...er...

I know, must be time for a scotch. Single malt of course!
Mylegacy - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 09:56 PM EDT (#371066) #
Richard - I didn't see your post before I put mine up.

I'm so sorry. Might it help if you could call me and dictate what you want to say and I'll type it up and attribute it to you? Please feel free to call me at 250-655-4733, collect would be fine. By the way, my non-blogging Human name is Roger.

Stay as well as you can, as long as you can. My thoughts are with you.
bpoz - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 10:00 PM EDT (#371067) #
Do the best you can Richard. I will always keep in mind your typing difficulties. So no need to get frustrated with any spelling or mixed up words.

I have a tablet. I am not good with computers but I think that there is voice recognition. If so then talk and ramble on if you have to. Forget being neat and pretty.

D Phelps, j Merryweather and D Travis can go on the 60 day DL. They have long recovery injuries.
bpoz - Sunday, March 17 2019 @ 10:13 PM EDT (#371068) #
Cheers Mylegacy. I am learning a lot about empathy. A fantastic comment. Hypobole, scottt and others have provided knowledge on the financial struggles of the $5K signings. Empathy.



John Northey - Monday, March 18 2019 @ 01:30 AM EDT (#371069) #
Agreed with Mylegacy - anything you need that those of us here can provide Richard just ask. Horrible what you are going through but hopefully you have lots of people in your 'real' life (IE: not online) who are supporting you and helping you through this terrible time. We may not agree all the time, but we all here would miss seeing you post, and all of us want you to have a long healthy life despite the horrible hand fate has given you.
Glevin - Monday, March 18 2019 @ 03:24 AM EDT (#371070) #
Richard, do your best to stay on here if you can. Don't worry about typos or spelling. Your voice is an integral part of this board.

Very happy the Jays are paying minor leaguers more. Apparently, they were already treating them better but this is a huge difference. Will it make a difference for the Jays? I think so. All this talk about organizational culture is a two-way street and when you invest in your players, your players invest more in you. Even people who don't need the money, can feel pride in their organization.

Pompey needed a good spring to make the team. I am happy the Jays are giving him another shot, but at some point, you have to cut bait. You can't just hand a job to someone who has done nothing to earn it. Spring isn't over yet, but he's almost run out of time.
grjas - Monday, March 18 2019 @ 08:00 AM EDT (#371071) #
Richard- do try dictation on your phone or computer. If you are able to speak clearly- which I know may also be a challenge- you’ll find it’s pretty accurate, and while there might be the occasional crazy word that pops out, no one here will care. We’d all like to “hear” your opinion on Jays topics.
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