Batter's Box Interactive Magazine Batter's Box Interactive Magazine Batter's Box Interactive Magazine

Demi Orimoloye hit two home runs. Justin Ammons had four hits with three doubles. Anthony Kay became the third Bisons pitcher in a row to pitch shutout baseball. TJ Zeuch, Nate Pearson and Kay are each staking a claim on a promotion. Adam Kloffenstein pitched well. It has been a good week for Blue Jay pitching prospects.

It was a good night for the affiliates with six wins and two losses. Vancouver had the most exciting win, getting a run in the tenth to win 1-0. The GCL Jays took an 8-1 lead to the bottom of the ninth and had to hang on to win 8-7.

Buffalo 7 Rochester 4

New Hampshire 0 Trenton 4

Daytona 4 Dunedin 5

Lansing 2 South Bend 3

Vancouver 1 Tri-City 0 - 10 innings

Bluefield 7 Princeton 2

GCL Jays 8 GCL Phillies 7

DSL Blue Jays 5 DSL Reds 1

Here are some things I noted from Wednesdays games:

Anthony Kay's first start with Buffalo wasn't good but in his last three starts he has pitched 16 innings, just allowed 9 hits, but he has walked 11 and has 22 strikeouts. So excellent on hits allowed and K's, not so good on the walks. His Buffalo ERA, even including the bad start, is 3.05.

Jordan Romano gave up three hits and a run in an inning. It seems like he is still trying to get back in the groove after his IL stint.

In case you missed it, Travis Bergen is back with the Jays, or more precisely, the Bisons.

Kevin Smith in August has a 482 OPS. He has 25 K's in 62 at-bats. That July hot streak has faded.

I noted last week that Demi Orimoloye was having a poor August. He homered on Tuesday and hit two on Wednesday, as part of a three hit game.

Otto Lopez had his 19 game hit streak ended on Tuesday. Lopez got right back on the wagon on Wednesday with three more hits. Lopez is second in the league in hitting.

Adam Kloffenstein pitched seven shutout innings with seven K's. He allowed five hits and two walks. Kloffenstein got off to a slow start, his ERA in June was over 4. But it is under two for each of July and August. His WHIP in August is 1.06 and he has 23 K's in 22 innings.

Luke Gillingham pitched the last three innings and got the win for Vancouver. Gillingham is 25 and just getting his baseball career started due to his military service but he has a WHIP under one and 38 K's in 28 innings.

Justin Ammons had four hits on Wednesday, three of them were doubles. Ammons is a non drafted free agent who didn't sign until well after the draft. He has made up for it by hitting well in the GCL and now in the Appy League. Ammons is a fast runner who can play centre field. The odds are against him but he has a chance it seems. If he keeps on hitting .395 he has a chance.

Michael Dominguez stayed hot. He pitched three shutout innings, no hits, two walks, three K's. His ERA is 1.29 over 21 innings with 29 K's.

The other best pitcher on the GCL Jays is Rafael Monsion. He gave up one run in four innings. His ERA is 1.77 and he has 33 K's in 35 innings.

Alberto Rodriguez is an 18 year old Dominican who plays right field. Rodriguez has noted previously in July when he hit .300 for the month. With two more hits on Wednesday he is hitting .340 for August. His OPS for the month is at 925.

Two more hits for Orelvis Martinez. He has been in and out of the lineup this season but his numbers are excellent.

Emmanuel Sanchez, an 18 year old shortstop, had three hits in the DSL. Sanchez had an OK June, a poor July and an excellent August so far. In August his OPS is 901, he has five extra base hits, not a lot I know, but that equals his total from the previous two months. Hw only has four K's in 50 at-bats and has walked six times. It can be tough to extrapolate a lot from a small sample but he should be tracked.

Juan Pizarro had an excellent July that got him some attention. But he has struggled in August. He has three hits in the last two games as he tries to get back on track.

3 Stars

3rd star: Justin Ammons

2nd star: Anthony Kay

1st star: Demi Orimoloye


Demi Doubles Up | 31 comments | Create New Account
The following comments are owned by whomever posted them. This site is not responsible for what they say.
Jonny German - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 09:07 AM EDT (#380220) #
TJ Zeuch, Nate Pearson and Kay are each staking a claim on a promotion.

I expect Pearson will get the Vlad treatment - he's not due to go on the 40-man this offseason, he doesn't need innings, he hasn't played much at AAA, and he is the kind of prospect that you could see becoming a franchise player, i.e. an extra year of control could be a big deal. Zeuch and Kay don't have any of those reasons to be held down, so I hope/expect to see them in Toronto in September.
PeterG - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 09:23 AM EDT (#380222) #
Kay does not need to be placed on 40 man either and could be held back as well. I fully expect Zeuch to join the Jays for September.
bpoz - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 09:32 AM EDT (#380223) #
If Pearson comes up in Sept and pitches well it will be hard to send him back to AAA. Another PR nightmare for Atkins. However I expect Atkins to handle it well.

If Pearson comes up for Sept that decision will have to be made soon. IMO the decision has already been made. It is possible that Atkins IMO cannot be right. It is complicated.

My explanation for that strong negative statement is as follows:-

1) If healthy Pearson has to be invited to ST.
2) If he dominates in ST then he has made a case for himself to break camp with the big club.
3) Reasons can be given why he should/was sent to AAA. If that happens.
4) If he dominates AAA right away it seems clear that he should have made the Jays.
5) Anyone can be wrong. Including Atkins. He has said that the Jays will be competitive in 2021. With the current offense he could be wrong. With the current (pre Sept) pitching staff he could be right. If they compete in 2020 (85 wins) and Pearson could have made it better by being there from the start then they have lost a chance to cash in on revenue.
Jonny German - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 09:39 AM EDT (#380224) #
I always manage to confuse myself about the Rule 5 rules. Does Kay get an extra year because he missed all of 2017?
hypobole - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 09:47 AM EDT (#380225) #
Jonny - no.
Marc Hulet - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 09:53 AM EDT (#380226) #
Kay has to be added this fall at the latest.

Injuries can potentially earn a player an extra option year; I fully expect the Jays to petition MLB for a fourth option for Alford for next year between his injuries and college football.
Jevant - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 10:24 AM EDT (#380229) #
Pearson just made it to AAA. With the way the Jays are currently marinating their prospects, I'd be shocked if the Jays suddenly accelerate Pearson to MLB this year.
PeterG - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 10:30 AM EDT (#380231) #
I missed it on Kay. He does need to be added this year so no reason not to do it in September. I don't think there is any chance Pearson will be brought up until sometime during the 2020 season.
rafael - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 10:32 AM EDT (#380232) #
"(Ammonds made up for it"
Ammonds makes ammends
....... lobbying for future thread titles
Mike Green - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 10:43 AM EDT (#380233) #
Adam Kloffenstein turns 19 on Sunday.  I wonder if he and Groshans will get paired up next year in Lansing or Dunedin.  With Groshans' injury and Kloffenstein's progress, they are at fairly comparable developmental levels.

I agree that Kay and Zeuch should get September call-ups, while Big Nate will have to wait until at least May 1.  Pearson is going to get up just over 100 innings this year. and they will likely want him to get 150 or less next year.  It's easy to imagine him starting his big league career as an opener, and then lengthening it out as the season rolls on. 
Cracka - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 10:48 AM EDT (#380234) #
On the topic of Rule V player, am I correct in assuming the following about Travis Bergin?
1. He's still subject to the Rule V draft again this fall, unless added to the 40-man roster.
2. He did not burn an option and still has 3 option years left.
3. Because he was DFA'ed and unclaimed, he can now elect free agency if DFA'ed & unclaimed again in the future.

I'm still undecided about whether he has an MLB future or if he'll be a fringy AAAA guy that bounces around for the next few years. Like many, I was quite excited after last season. But right now, there are ~32 MLB teams that don't think he's ready...
Marc Hulet - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 11:04 AM EDT (#380235) #
Cracka, you're right on all accounts.
uglyone - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 12:00 PM EDT (#380237) #
I remember on draft day being surprised by how similar the in depth scouting reports on Kloff were to that group of 4-5 good SP's drafted in the mid 1st round were.

I'm trying to remember which one of these guys I was hot on. I honestly forget but I know it wasn't liberatore. I think it was a short name like maybe cole Winn but now that doesn't sound right either (and not just because he's struggling!)

#88 Kloff (18, A-): 58.1ip, 23.8k%, 9.4bb%, 2.16era, 3.63fip, 3.46xfip

#7 R.Weathers (19, A): 87.0ip, 22.9k%, 4.5b%, 46.7gb%, 3.62era, 3.28fip, 3.20xfip
#11 G.Rodriguez (19, A): 83.1ip, 35.0k%, 9.9b%, 43.7k%, 2.59era, 2.56fip, 2.93xfip
(#12 Groshans)
#14 L.Gilbert (22, AA): 39.2ip, 29.4k%, 7.8b%, 34.1gb%, 2.50era, 2.69fip, 3.93xfip
#15 C.Winn (19, A): 55.2ip, 21.9k%, 14.6b%, 46.0gb%, 5.17era, 4.82fip, 4.62xfip
#16 M.Liberatore (19, A): 71.1ip, 22.5k%, 9.5b%, 56.9gb%, 3.15era, 3.27fip, 3.68xfip
#18 B.Singer (22, AA): 76.2ip, 21.6k%, 7.5bb%, 46.8gb%, 3.87era, 4.11fip, 3.72xfip
#22 R.Rolison (22, A+): 105.1ip, 24.2k%, 6.5bb%, 44.7gb%, 4.87era, 5.20fip, 3.84xfip

Looks like Kloff is right there with all of them except Rodriguez and maybe Gilbert.
John Northey - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 12:02 PM EDT (#380238) #
With the current management team I'd be shocked to see any kids up who don't need to be added to the 40 man this winter. I fully expect them to try to add years of control wherever they can to guys too unless they think the player won't last 7 years in the majors. Pearson I'm 100% sure will not be up until late April/early May. The others who knows?
Shoeless Joe - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 12:13 PM EDT (#380239) #
On Fangraphs player profiles it now says when players are rule five eligible and how many options they have remaining, it saves a little bit of math for sure.

The Jays 40 man might seem a little tough, but ultimately guys like Jayson Adam, Neil Ramirez, Zack Godley, Buddy Boshers, Nick Kingham, Clayton Richard, Brock Stewart are pretty fungible. Even some others like Wilmer Font, Sam Gavigilo, Jonathan Davis, Derek Law and Justin Sahfer don't hold that much future value. I don't really see any reason why Zeuch and Kay don't get at look in September. Most of the guys listed above have already shown what they really are for the most part.

uglyone - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 12:18 PM EDT (#380240) #
I'm not so sure about this whole "marinating thing", tbh.

AAA PA / IP before first real callup

Vladdy 152
Gurriel 156
Biggio 174
Bichette 244
Jansen 438

Pannone 36.2
Borucki 83.0
SRF 85.1
Wagu 145.1 (52.2 with the jays)
Thornton 239.1 (0.0 with the jays)

there's probably a better argument for "rushing" than "marinating", really - though that's just if you want to put a negative spin on it either way.
Shoeless Joe - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 12:19 PM EDT (#380241) #
Kloffenstein is looking elite as the season rolls on, and I do remember ugly that you were high on the pick stating the gap between him and the higher picks didn't seem like much.

I feel like most people were high on Matt Liberatore, and to some extent Singer.
bpoz - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 12:22 PM EDT (#380242) #
Our DSL team just lost it's No Hitter.
Mike Green - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 12:26 PM EDT (#380243) #
Kay threw 122 innings last year- he missed 2017 with TJ.  He's got 124 innings and counting this year, and he turns 25 in March.  If he gets some innings in September either in the playoffs or in Toronto, he'd be on pace to throw 160-180 innings in 2020.  That would be good. 

Zeuch threw 156 innings in 2018 and so far has thrown 76 in 2019.  It would be really nice to get him up to 115 or so, so that he too is ready for a significant role in 2020. 
Marc Hulet - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 12:28 PM EDT (#380244) #
Prior to the 2018 draft I didn't a mock of where I felt players should go. Kloffenstein definitely slid due to signability and I had him at 26th overall with Groshans and Conine as possible 1st supplemental guys:
bpoz - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 12:32 PM EDT (#380245) #
I believe 168 IP for Zeuch in 2018, counting playoffs. If up this year he will be reunited with J Schneider. Schneider by the way was on the Jay's coaching staff before Montoyo as he got a promotion to help Gibby in Sept last year after the NH playoffs.
Mike Green - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 12:43 PM EDT (#380246) #
The first carbon-neutral minor league game (in a long time) takes place tomorrow night in Chattanooga. That's good.  I wonder if the next dome will have solar panels. 

Speaking of which, I invariably take transit to the RC but I was wondering how it is for cyclists, and in particular for parking bikes. I know that there are stands at several locations, but don't know if one can find a spot usually at one of the stands.  I also wonder if they allow e-bikes. 
ISLAND BOY - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 01:34 PM EDT (#380247) #
Uglyone, I went back in the archives and it was Winn that you touted. Some others supported Winn and Gilbert but Groshans wasn't on anybody's radar and a few people panned the pick.

Keith Law actually had good words about Groshans and Kloffensten. He also noted the pick of Conine and the Jays previous acquisitions of sons of big leaguers. He said, " I don't know if that is a good strategy." Looks pretty good to me right now.
uglyone - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 02:07 PM EDT (#380248) #
dang it. it was cole after all.

nice call Marc - that makes more sense that it was a signability issue, as otherwise the gap was unclear to me.
eldarion - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 09:36 PM EDT (#380254) #
Hector Perez threw four innings tonight...with zero walks. Woah.
hypobole - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 09:42 PM EDT (#380255) #
Kevin Smith with 3 hits - a double and his 18th and 19th HR's...with zero strikeouts... Yowzers!
hypobole - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 09:57 PM EDT (#380256) #
And Smith just struck out. Life back to normal.
JohnL - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 10:06 PM EDT (#380257) #
Mike Green:
Re: bike parking. I havenít been to many games at RC for the last several years, but when I do, I bike & havenít had problems finding parking. There are racks by the stadium, which I suppose could get full if thereís a huge crowd (not usually a problem now), but there are also spots around the plazas.

No idea about e-bikes though.
mendocino - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 10:19 PM EDT (#380258) #
Just me but I find it interesting Kendall Williams turns 19 on Saturday
rtcaino - Thursday, August 22 2019 @ 10:55 PM EDT (#380259) #
I use Toronto Bike Share - there are enough stations near the dome that parking the bike is not an issue. It's best to double-check the availability of docking stations as you approach the area though as they can fill up on you pretty quick sometimes.
Mike Green - Friday, August 23 2019 @ 09:32 AM EDT (#380274) #
Thanks, JohnL and rtcaino, for the bike information.
Demi Doubles Up | 31 comments | Create New Account
The following comments are owned by whomever posted them. This site is not responsible for what they say.