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Dave Stieb is the TOR career leader in almost every counting stat category for SP, including all but one of the following, in which he's second. Which one? (And who's first?) Answer is within.

Innings 1 (0.73%)
Strikeouts 4 (2.92%)
Starts 2 (1.46%)
Wins 2 (1.46%)
Losses 24 (17.52%)
Complete Games 30 (21.90%)
Shutouts 9 (6.57%)
Batters Faced 1 (0.73%)
Hit Batsmen 40 (29.20%)
HR Allowed 24 (17.52%)
Dave Stieb is the TOR career leader in almost every counting stat category for SP, including all but one of the following, in which he's second. Which one? (And who's first?) Answer is within. | 5 comments | Create New Account
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Mick Doherty - Wednesday, April 30 2008 @ 11:43 AM EDT (#184044) #
The answer is losses; Stieb is 2nd on the list, with 134. Now, without looking it up ... who had 140?
Magpie - Wednesday, April 30 2008 @ 12:20 PM EDT (#184046) #
Jim Clancy lost more games.
Mick Doherty - Wednesday, April 30 2008 @ 12:43 PM EDT (#184050) #

Argh. Should have made a rule on that question, "Anyone other than Magpie ..."

But yet, Clancy lost 140 games in his Jay career.

Mick Doherty - Wednesday, April 30 2008 @ 02:01 PM EDT (#184060) #

I think it's funny how many people are choosing HBP ... Stieb had almost three times as many (129) as anyone else (Todd Stottlemyre is second with 49).

Stieb, in fact, is tied for 23rd all time in that category, tied with Toronto favorite Frank Tanana, in fact. Only four active pitchers -- Unit, Pedro, Wakefiled and Maddux.

John Northey - Wednesday, April 30 2008 @ 02:42 PM EDT (#184065) #
Clancy was my guess for loss leader as well.  Advantage of watching those games.  Clancy was the solid #3 guy for years, a guy you could count on to give you innings at a league average ERA.  Checking his stats I was surprised by the spreads in ERA+ he had - from 80-88 when he was counted on (77-78 breaking in, 79 just sucked) he had 3 years in the 80's, 3 between 108-113 (about how I remember him) and 3 at 120+.  Huh, what do you know.  The Jays lost him as a free agent just in time though as he went to Houston on a 3 year deal for over a million a year, which was a lot for the era (similar to $8-10 million per year today).  Those years his ERA+ was 67-57-93 without cracking 150 IP in any of those seasons after going 195+ in 6 of 8 years before that.

My second guess would've been home runs allowed, figuring someone (like Clancy) could've given up more but really, who else pitched enough to give up that many?  Interesting to see Clancy was just 5 behind while my second candidate (Hentgen) was just 17 back.  Halladay has to give up 88 more to 'lead' this category while Halladay is also 81 away from Clancy's title in losses.

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