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The Blue Jays select Ricky Romero, LHP, Cal St Fullerton with the 6th overall pick in the 2005 draft.

Round 1: Ricky Romero, LHP, Cal St Fullerton
6'1", 195 lbs -
20 years, 7 months
Year	Inn	ERA	K/9	BB/9	HR/9
2005   125.0	2.95    9.5	2.4	0.4
2004   155.0	3.37	7.3	2.4	0.5
2003	56.1	3.20	7.4	2.9	0.6

Brewer Fan.net: Like so many left-handed pitchers, Romero shows ability to change speeds and hit his spots. Unlike so many lefties, he does so while throwing in the low-90s with a hammer curveball. He has a very loose and easy arm action in which the ball explodes off of his whip-like delivery. All of his pitches show very good movement and he has good control but a smaller stature.

MLB.com: Fluid, easy delivery. Has two kinds of fastball: a slider-like cutter and a nasty sinker that drops late. Can change speeds on 12-6 curveball. Features a sharp slider. Very intense on the mound, keeps hitters off-balance. Potential front-end starter.

BA: Romero has three solid, major league-ready pitches that he can throw for strikes almost at will, including a fastball that sits at 90-91 mph and touches 93-94. He also has an excellent curveball and a better feel for a changeup this year after he reduced his reliance on his curve. But Romero gets his highest grades for his makeup, temperament and competitive zeal. He is an excellent student of the game who understands the science of pitching, and is a master at controlling the tempo of a game.





Round 3: Brian Pettway, OF, Mississippi
6'1", 205 lbs -
21 years, 11 months
Year	ABs	Ave	Obp	Slg	BB	K
2005	240	0.400	0.466	0.717	32	43
2004	203	0.305	0.373	0.448	23	29
2003	203	0.266	0.371	0.468	28	47

BA: Pettway lost about 20 pounds, regaining some athleticism and more importantly some bat speed. He became perhaps the best hitter in the Southeastern Conference. Pettway takes confident swings at his pitch, as he remains patient and lashes line drives from gap to gap with a level, consistent swing. Once a third baseman, his footwork leaves a return to that position questionable, making right field his most likely destination.

Mississippi Profile



Round 4: Ryan Patterson, OF, LSU
5'11", 205 lbs -
22 years, 1 month
Year	ABs	Ave	Obp	Slg	BB	K
2005	234	0.363	0.434	0.714	25	26
2004	293	0.341	0.383	0.577	15	46
2003	263	0.350	0.387	0.616	14	39

MLB.com: Medium frame, mature body. Wide shoulders. Similar to Joe Randa. Compact swing. Bat speed and swing plane to hit for avg. Pull power. Gets bat head on the ball. Instincts in OF. Accurate throws. Great make-up.

BA: OF Ryan Patterson went undrafted in 2004 and turned down free-agent offers after leading the Cape Cod League with a .327 batting average. A center fielder this season, he'll have to move to a corner as a pro. He has 49 homers in three seasons with the Tigers, but some scouts wonder if his power will translate to wood bats.

LSU Profile



Round 5: Eric Fowler, LHP, Mississippi
6'3", 215 lbs -
22 years, 3 months
Year	Inn	ERA	K/9	BB/9	HR/9
2005    67.1    3.07   10.5	2.4	0.9
2004	59.0	5.80	8.7	3.1	1.2
2003	60.0	4.05	7.1	2.4	0.5

BA: Eric Fowler was a member of the rotation all season and has solid-average stuff. Fowler's velocity improved from the mid-80s to the upper 80s this season. His slider comes and goes, and when it's on he can be a strikeout pitcher. He hasn't responded well to past moves to the bullpen, though that's what scouts consider his better future role.

Mississippi Profile



Round 6: Josh Bell, C, Auburn
6'0", 200 lbs -
20 years, 11 month
Year	ABs	Ave	Obp	Slg	BB	K
2005	224	0.339	0.402	0.558	20	38
2004	226	0.274	0.321	0.438	12	65
2003	200	0.295	0.338	0.490	11	47

BA: Bell's improved as a receiver, though he's still below-average. He's adequate blocking balls, and Coach Slater has entrusted him to call many of the pitches for the Tigers staff. The tools that made him a high pick out of high school are still there-his arm is at least a 60 on the 20-80 scouting scale, and he has plus raw power. He's become a more consistent hitter this season with a better-defined overall role.

Auburn Profile



Round 7: Robert Ray, RHP, Texas A&M
6'4", 190 lbs -
21 years, 4 months
Year	Inn	ERA	K/9	BB/9	HR/9
2005    64.1    3.78     8.3    1.8     0.7
2004	44.2	5.24	11.0	3.1	0.8
2003	37	2.19	10.2	2.9	0.2

BA: Ray looked like a possible first-round pick based on his performance as a set-up man in the Cape Cod League last summer. Ray bounced back in April after a slow start, showing the same 90-93 mph fastball with late, explosive life he had on the Cape. He also flashed a plus curveball and an effective changeup. There's deceptive strength in his long, lean frame and he throws with little effort, so there's no reason he can't start as a pro.

Texas A&M Profile



Round 8: Jacob Butler, CF, Nevada-Reno
6'0", 200 lbs -
22 years, 4 months
Year	ABs	Ave	Obp	Slg	BB	K
2005	171	0.333	0.457	0.632	42	28
2004	229	0.354	0.462	0.629	43	47
2003	147	0.367	0.416	0.653	13	27
2002	85	0.271	0.293	0.482	3	19

BA:OF Jacob Butler led Nevada with a .340 average. He's a below-average defender, but should be a good senior sign on his bat alone.

Nevada-Reno Profile



Round 9: Paul Phillips, RHP, Oakland
6'2", 210 lbs -
21 years, 4 months
Year	Inn	ERA	K/9	BB/9	HR/9
2005    76.2    4.23    7.8     1.7     0.6
2004    Redshirt 
2003	30.2	4.11	7.5	4.8	0.0

BA:On the right day, Phillips can look like a first- or second-rounder. He can carry the 90-93 mph velocity on his fastball into the late innings, throw a mid-80s slider and even mix in a forkball. But his heater is a bit straight and he's inconsistent. Phillips missed part of 2003 and all of 2004 recovering from labrum surgery, a red flag for some clubs. But with his two hard pitches and ability to pitch well with emotion, he profiles well as a late-inning reliever.

Oakland Profile



Round 10: Josh Sowers, RHP, Yale
6'0", 170 lbs -
22 years, 1 months
Year	Inn	ERA	K/9	BB/9	HR/9
2005    60.0    2.10    9.5     1.7     0.2
2004	61.0	3.39	8.0	2.5	0.1	
2003	60.1	4.18	7.2	4.5	0.6	
2002	49.0	5.33	7.9	3.3	1.3	

BA: While he's smaller than twin brother Jeremy (Indians first round pick), the biggest difference between the two is merely that one is lefthanded and the other righthanded. Josh may have a better slider than Jeremy. He repeats his delivery so well on the pitch that it resembles a fastball coming out of his hand. His 86-90 mph fastball also has good late movement. Sowers is polished, with his brother's same intelligent approach to pitching.

Yale Profile



Round 11: Wesley Stone, SS, A.B. Miller HS, Rialto, Calif.



Round 12: Billy Carnline, RHP, Texas Tech

Year	Inn	ERA	K/9	BB/9	HR/9
2005	78	4.27	7.2	4.2	0.7


Round 13: Anthony Hatch, 3B, Nicholls State

Year	ABs	Ave	Obp	Slg	BB	K
2005	107	0.393	0.438	0.664	10	9
2004	195	0.379	0.448	0.585	23	28


Round 14: Sean Stidfole, RHP, Penn State

Year	Inn	ERA	K/9	BB/9	HR/9
2005	78.2	4.58	8.5	3.0	0.5
2004	30	3.9	6.3	5.7
2003	13.2	13.17	9.5	9.5


Round 15: Sean Shoffit, 2B, Cosumnes River (Calif.) JC



Round 16: Kyle Bohm, C, Michigan

Year	ABs	Ave	Obp	Slg	BB	K
2005	206	0.388	0.454	0.510	25	16
2004	216	0.352	0.463	0.523	42	23


Round 17: Tyler Norrick, LHP, Southern Illinois

Year	Inn	ERA	K/9	BB/9	HR/9
2005	80.2	3.24	10.0	3.1	0.2
2004	17.2	2.04	7.3	8.4	0.0
2003	34	4.24	7.4	5.0	0.5


Round 18: Rob Hogue, LHP, St. Joseph HS, Edmonton, Alberta CN

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Pistol - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 01:13 PM EDT (#118866) #
Points in Romero’s favor:

* Cal St Fullerton is one of the top college teams – they won the NCAA Championship in 2004 with Romero being one of the two key starters (Jason Windsor being the other, who is currently in AA). With being one of the top teams you end up having a difficult schedule.

* Cal St Fullerton’s home park has historically been a favorable hitting park.

* Romero was the best starter on Team USA roster in 2004, which also included top picks Luke Hochevar, Mike Pelfrey and Cesar Ramos.

* In BA’s top 200 prospects there wasn’t a younger college player - Romero doesn’t turn 21 until November.
HippyGilmore - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 01:17 PM EDT (#118870) #
Anyone else surprised the Jays passed over both Maybin and Tulowitzki?
Skills - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 01:19 PM EDT (#118871) #
The young age is definitely a plus. And the potential to be a front-end starter makes me less disappointed that they didn't go with Maybin or Tulowitski. I hope, I hope, I hope this kid makes a splash.
Mike Green - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 01:19 PM EDT (#118872) #
Surprised? No.

The next job for JP is translating some of the pitching talent in the organization into hitting talent. There was an imbalance prior to this selection, and it now calls for action.
Ducey - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 01:21 PM EDT (#118874) #
Maybin slipped all the way to #10. If he was supposed to be top 5, why?
Flex - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 01:22 PM EDT (#118875) #
They say Romero's small of stature. But at 6'1" and 195 pounds, he's almost exactly the size of Jimmy Key.
Pistol - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 01:27 PM EDT (#118879) #
"The next job for JP is translating some of the pitching talent in the organization into hitting talent."

Agreed. The good thing is that it seems that it's easier to trade pitching for hitting than the other way around.
Flex - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 01:39 PM EDT (#118887) #
Here's a clip of a piece that ran in the Orange County register about Romero after a big win in May:

The Titans won, 7-2, on an unusually sloppy night by the 49ers. Two Long Beach errors in the second inning helped CSF construct four runs and a 5-0 lead. Giving Ricky Romero that many runs on a Friday night is like sending him to Smart & Final.

"Romero fanned two 49ers with a man on third in the second. He came back from a 3-and-0 count to get Troy Tulowitzki, the incipient millionaire shortstop, to pop up.

"It's so much fun to watch Ricky pitch because he trusts his stuff so much," shortstop Blake Davis said."

Have to like the sound of that.
Cristian - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 01:44 PM EDT (#118888) #
JP! Youse got some 'splainin' to do

Wrong Ricky R?
Flex - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 01:45 PM EDT (#118889) #
And here's a snippet of an on-line blog authored by P.J. Pilittere, a Titan's catcher, from Feb. 2004:

"...I received a phone call from Coach Horton in my hotel room about 2:30 p.m., and he said “Shake the rust off, we’re gonna put you behind the plate tonight.” 

I was overjoyed, especially because Ricky Romero – one of my favorite Titan pitchers to catch – was on the hill.  The night could not have turned out any better.  Ricky made it easy for me behind the dish, as he was dialed in from pitch one through pitch 115, recording a complete-game shutout.  I felt like it was just he and I out there all night.  No matter what sign I gave him, he agreed and made numerous hitters look silly.  Ricky certainly put the icing on the cake for an already special night for me.  Titans win 11-0."
R Billie - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 02:05 PM EDT (#118894) #
No surprise here as the Dodgers finally take Hochevar off the board with their first pick of the draft. They get the polished college guy with first round stuff and a Boras guy although they already have Drew and Lowe aboard from that camp.
Ron - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 02:06 PM EDT (#118895) #
I know people say you can flip young pitchers for hitters, but what impact/all-star hitters have been dealt for young pitchers in the past 3-5 years?

I consider Shea Hillenbrand a quality hitter, but he's not a impact/all-star type of player.
JC - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 02:17 PM EDT (#118901) #
Ron,

Brian Giles for Oliver Perez comes to mind. (I know Jason Bay was in there too, but I recall at the time Bay was considered a secondary piece).

McGwire to the Cardinals for three pitchers (who all flopped if I remember correctly).

I'm sure there's more - I just can't remember.
Ducey - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 02:28 PM EDT (#118908) #
Pitching for hitters:

Last year, Carl Everett, Larry Walker and Richard Hidalgo were all picked up for minor league pitching
Halladayfan32 - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 03:05 PM EDT (#118932) #
Thomas - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 03:05 PM EDT (#118933) #
But those were all basically giveaways based on salary. At least they were in some cases. I don't think that Evan Rust struck the Rockies as talent-equivalent exchange for Larry Walker. It barely mattered which position he played.
Pistol - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 03:40 PM EDT (#118954) #
I did quick & dirty adjusted hitting stats for the NCAA this year and Pettway ended up #1 overall and Patterson ended up at #5 overall. It certainly isn't a prospect ranking, but it is a nice way to adjust for park & competition by more than the eye.

SEC baseball - extreme pitchers parks, great competition.
Mike D - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 03:40 PM EDT (#118955) #
It appears that Aaron Hill will get to give Ryan Patterson yet another rookie initiation.
Rob - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 03:48 PM EDT (#118957) #
Patterson was named to the 2004 Baseball America Summer League All-America team after winning the Thurman Munson Award as the Cape Cod League's top hitter.

The Cape league again. Not surprising at all.

Ryan01 - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 03:55 PM EDT (#118960) #

It appears that Aaron Hill will get to give Ryan Patterson yet another rookie initiation

...and of course Cal State Alum Reed Johnson can welcome Romero to the team while Pettway might be greeted by the "Duff-Man" if Matt keeps pitching well.

Mike Green - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 03:58 PM EDT (#118961) #
Is it me, or do Patterson and Pettway share more than a little in common beyond the slight similarity of their names? Build, position, age, hitting profile.
Pistol - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 04:03 PM EDT (#118962) #
Both are a little older for college players, both emerged over this past year and both are probably corner OFs.

Patterson is definately a senior, and Pettway may or may not be (he might have red-shirted and could be a 4th year junior).
ainge_fan - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 04:10 PM EDT (#118965) #
I heard Romero when he was on the phone on the MLB.com videocast. He sounded reallly excited, repeating himself, crackily voice. When the announcers were saying goodbye and trying to get him off the horn, he cut in and made a point to thank the GM (Rickardy was how he pronounced it) and Jon Lalonde (which he pronounced as Lalonday) before he hung up. Nicely done. He said he hopes to sign pretty quickly after the college season is over, and doesn't really see any big barriers to signing.
I had a pretty good impression of him from this.
R Billie - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 04:11 PM EDT (#118967) #
And the college lefties keep on coming for the Blue Jays. 22 year old Eric Fowler, 6'3", 215 lbs, U of Mississippi.
Brent S - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 04:16 PM EDT (#118968) #
Here's a nice story about Fowler detailing his move to the starting rotation, and a few blurbs about his breaking pitches.
Gerry - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 04:17 PM EDT (#118969) #
Over/Under on the first, if any HS or JC pick?

My picks..

HS - 11
JC - 14
Mike Green - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 04:19 PM EDT (#118970) #
Here is the game report for Fowler's and Pettway's latest outing for Ole Miss.
R Billie - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 04:24 PM EDT (#118971) #
Meanwhile, beyond the first round it sounds like Oakland has ONLY scouted high school pitching and have selected another young RHP in the 5th round. Clearly the colleges are getting more attention from most front offices so the A's seem to have decided to take advantage by pouring resources into younger arms this year.
Pistol - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 04:32 PM EDT (#118974) #
I'll guess that there's a JC player before a HS player.

Fowler's an interesting pick. He's been a part time starter at Mississippi, and only really pitched well this year. I'm guessing the Jays see something with him that others don't - I would think you wouldn't take a player in the 5th round that projects as a reliever.
Mike Forbes - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 04:41 PM EDT (#118976) #
Love the Josh Bell pick. Now we need the annual cool named guy.
sweat - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 04:44 PM EDT (#118979) #
his bio said he pitched as well as caught in 2004.
Pistol - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 04:52 PM EDT (#118982) #
Last year the Jays took a lot of Big 12 players at the top of the draft. They year they're focused on the SEC as every pick except Romero has been from there.
Rob - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 04:56 PM EDT (#118983) #
Robert Ray? What, from NDP University?
HollywoodHartman - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 04:57 PM EDT (#118984) #
The Blue Jays select Robert Ray RHP Texas A&M U
Pistol - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 05:03 PM EDT (#118986) #
So can we call Rob Ray 'Razor' like the former Sabre enforcer?
Mike D - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 05:11 PM EDT (#118987) #
Jacob Butler, CF, U. of Nevada.
HollywoodHartman - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 05:24 PM EDT (#118990) #
The Jays have drafted Paul Phillips RHP Oakland U
Ducey - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 05:29 PM EDT (#118991) #
In the profile for Butler:

"chosen to have the best raw power in the WAC by Baseball America in their best tools list"

Sounds good anyway.
Pistol - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 05:36 PM EDT (#118994) #
Josh Sowers of Yale, the Jays 10th pick, is the twin brother of Jeremy Sowers, the Indians first round pick last year.
Alex0888 - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 05:37 PM EDT (#118995) #
Jays draft 296th overall Josh Sowers RHP from Yale.

Great, maybe he'll pitch with Josh TOWERS, and they're both righties
HollywoodHartman - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 05:37 PM EDT (#118996) #
The Jays have drafted Josh Sowers RHP (like Towers but with an S) Yale U, so we got a smart guy.
Mike Forbes - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 05:40 PM EDT (#118997) #
I like the Sowers pick alot. Kid has some potential. Now we need to draft Reese Havens and sign him.
googlemay - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 05:42 PM EDT (#118998) #
When do you think we could take a flyer on Jordan Danks, or Justin Bristow.
CaramonLS - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 05:45 PM EDT (#118999) #
I bet Magpie is salavating at the thought of making new threads.

"Josh Sowers Yankee bats"
"Ricky Makes you strike out, Ricky Makes you ground into double plays, Ricky Wins".
HollywoodHartman - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 05:46 PM EDT (#119001) #
What does red shirted mean?
Mike Forbes - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 05:50 PM EDT (#119002) #
How many rounds on day 1 of the draft?
Pistol - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 05:55 PM EDT (#119003) #
18 rounds today.

Redshirt means that you are injured and don't play that season, but you don't lose any eligibility time. You're allowed to play 4 years of college athletics, but if you get redshirted that year doesn't count against you.
HollywoodHartman - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 05:58 PM EDT (#119005) #
Blue Jays select Wesley Stone 2b High school boy
Gerry - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 06:02 PM EDT (#119007) #
I win with first HS pick at #11.
HollywoodHartman - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 06:02 PM EDT (#119008) #
And good job Gerry on the HS pick
Pistol - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 06:05 PM EDT (#119009) #
On the first 10 rounds:

Favorite picks, in terms of value for the spot: Pettway (3), Bell (6), Ray (7)

Least favorite pick: Fowler (5)

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The Jays once again stuck to college players from top programs. There were several seniors in the group and the overall age, besides Romero, seemed on the higher side. Perhaps the team was taking the best players, but it seemed like previous JP drafts where there were several seniors to keep bonuses down - although with the team having more money now that shouldn't be an issue.

This year it seemed that there were more HS players being taken, at least after the first round (I never would have guessed Oakland would have taken MANY high school players, and especially high school pitchers). It'll be interesting to see how the numbers shake out.
Vodeni - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 06:19 PM EDT (#119011) #
As the 358th pick Tampa Bay selected Ryan Zimmerman (RHP from Salt Lake CC). Now what were the odds?
Mick Doherty - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 06:28 PM EDT (#119014) #
Here's a story on the Jays' 10th-round pick Phillips, from today's Toledo Blade.
Pistol - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 06:37 PM EDT (#119016) #
Going back to the draft previews I looked at 7 pitchers and 7 hitters 'beyond the first round'.

And wouldn't you know it, the Jays ended up selecting 2 of the hitters, Brian Pettway and Josh Bell. Which is about 2 more than I would have expected.

http://www.battersbox.ca/article.php?story=20050524195823490

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Going back to the ages of the drafted players, I initially thought they were older than usual, but it was very comparable to last year's draft.
Blue in SK - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 06:50 PM EDT (#119017) #
Red Shirting doesn't necessarily have to be due to medical or injury reasons. A player has the ability to red shirt at any point within his 5 year playing eligibility. Often freshman are redshirted because the realize they will get little playing time or to help meet team roster size limitations.

They can't compete, but they are allowed to practice with the team and polish their skills.

I found this on the Scarlet Knights NCAA website:

"Red shirting is not an official NCAA term, but the term is used when a student-athlete does not participate in any competition during a particular academic year (i.e., neither in the championship nor the non-championship segment of the playing season). A student-athlete may be red-shirted at any point in his/her athletic career.

A “medical red shirt” is not an official NCAA term either, but the term is used when a student-athlete is injured after participating in a limited amount of competition during a particular academic year and then qualifies for a Medical Hardship Waiver."
googlemay - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 07:22 PM EDT (#119019) #
Tim Lincecum hasnt been drafted? wonder y
mathesond - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 07:27 PM EDT (#119020) #
Baseball Analysts has this to say about Romero:

Ricky Romero, LHP, Cal State Fullerton - Without question, the best left-hander in the draft. Ramos may have better command but Romero throws harder (low 90s) and has more upside than his Big West competitor and former Team USA teammate. Doesn't turn 21 until November. Had an outstanding junior year when he and Jason Windsor combined to lead CSUF to the College World Series title. Elevated his stature last summer by leading Team USA in ERA among starters and striking out more than one per inning. Came back this season and was the ace of a team that was number one in the country for most of the year, while boosting his strikeouts per nine from approximately 7 to 10.
Jordan - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 09:43 PM EDT (#119045) #
Every year, the draft falls on the one day I'm out of town at a conference.

Overall, I'm happy with the Romero pick. Pistol has pointed out that he's the youngest of the BA Top 200 -- in effect, he's almost a high-school-age player with a collegiate pedigree. I wouldn't be surprised to see him join Dunedin upon his signing and start 2006 at Double-A. Certainly, from everything I've read about his talent, makeup and leadership qualities, he might reach Toronto as early as next September.

Keep in mind, JP doesn't lavish comparisons on his draftees -- he comp'ed Russ Adams to Walt Weiss and Gabe Gross to Jim Eisenreich -- so when he publicly compares his new draftee to maybe the best left-hander in baseball, that says something.

As soon as Ricky is signed, Davis will become only the second-best left-handed Romero in the Jays' organization. That's gotta suck.
ainge_fan - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 10:12 PM EDT (#119047) #
A couple of side notes...
No sign of Brok Butcher on day one of the draft, who reportedly turned down the Jays draft and follow offer of "8th round money". Presumably he's regretting this decision.
I am also wondering about afew players I haven't heard about for awhile: What happened to Joe Wice and Jordan Timm? Timm? I presume to be in some training program somewhere because of numbers, but I can't recall anything of Wice who was thought to be pretty intriguing this time last year. And regarding the ongoing building oup of some impressive LHP depth (now with Romero and Fowler, and before with Romero, Purcey, Jackson and Isenburg), has there been any recent word on Matt Foster? IIRC, this should be the year that he makes his pro debut as his military commitment should be finished up.
ainge_fan - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 10:18 PM EDT (#119048) #
"Good one!" to the guy who made the comment about waiting for the cool-name guy to be drafted...no clear cut winner from today, though I guess Stidfole could get the Day One prize. And if history repeats, there should be one or two "redrafts" among last years unsigned guys - another one of the quirks of JP drafts.
MatO - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 10:45 PM EDT (#119049) #
Wice signed too late for the 2004 season and I assume is in extended spring training. He's young (19?) and should probably be with Pulaski or Auburn when they start up in a couple of weeks. I suspect Timm will be in Auburn. Haven't heard anything about Foster recently other than that he didn't appear to be in extended spring training. Might be a good question for Blue Jay brass.
Pistol - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 10:52 PM EDT (#119051) #
Overall, I'm happy with the Romero pick. Pistol has pointed out that he's the youngest of the BA Top 200

Just to be clear, Romero is the youngest college player in the BA top 200. He's about 2 years older than the average HS player drafted. It seems that he started college earlier than usual - it's like drafting a college sophomore.

Jordan - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 10:54 PM EDT (#119052) #
Right, sorry -- I should have been more specific. I do like the idea of getting a player who's halfway between the average high-school and college graduation ages.
Ryan01 - Tuesday, June 07 2005 @ 11:25 PM EDT (#119055) #
As soon as Ricky is signed, Davis will become only the second-best left-handed Romero in the Jays' organization. That's gotta suck.

Hey, at least he's having a better week than his old partner in crime, Felix "The Other" Romero

Jim - Wednesday, June 08 2005 @ 12:05 AM EDT (#119060) #
Auburn might win 90% of their games with all those college seniors.
ainge_fan - Wednesday, June 08 2005 @ 10:44 AM EDT (#119078) #
Thanks, MatO for the update. The depth of talented pitching prospects is really hedging the bets....there are enough around and coming up through the system that the blips of struggles/injuries are much less impactful than they would have been a few years back, and the competition *has* to be more fiece throughout the system.

When a prospect of significance like McGowan goes down with injury last year, one (Rosario) steps back in or another (Vince Perkins or Jason Arnold) starts to straighten things out. Brandon League is mightily struggling, but Marcum, Banks and Jackson are all humming along pretty nicely. Its a nice position to be in, and a good idea to try and sustain it for as long as possible.
Mike Green - Wednesday, June 08 2005 @ 10:44 AM EDT (#119079) #
As with Pistol, I like the Bell(6) and Ray(7) selections. I also really like the Josh Sowers(10) selection, and not only because of the Sowers/Towers rhyming possibilities. Sowers' collegiate coach was John Stuper, for 80s buffs.
ainge_fan - Wednesday, June 08 2005 @ 10:45 AM EDT (#119080) #
Is Fowler close enough to join that rotation, Mike?
Gerry - Wednesday, June 08 2005 @ 10:51 AM EDT (#119081) #
Lalonde was on the Fan this morning and when asked which pick, other than Romero, he liked best the answer was Fowler, he was surprised Fowler was still available when the Jays picked. Lalonde said Fowler has a great curve and an average fastball.
Mike Green - Wednesday, June 08 2005 @ 11:01 AM EDT (#119084) #
Sorry, aingefan, but I must be missing something. Which rotation? Auburn's?
Paul D - Wednesday, June 08 2005 @ 11:05 AM EDT (#119086) #
Haven't seen this on here yet, but apparently the Jay's 18th round pick was a high schooler from Edmonton, LHP Robert Hogue.
ainge_fan - Wednesday, June 08 2005 @ 11:18 AM EDT (#119090) #
The Sowers-Towers one, Mike, sorry. I guess the "L" at the beginning of the second syllable in Fowler, and the fact that its singular changes the name enough that he doesn't really fit in to the rhyming rotation of the future. Rhyming prose was never really a strength of mine, I guess.
Pistol - Wednesday, June 08 2005 @ 11:21 AM EDT (#119091) #
"Lalonde was on the Fan this morning and when asked which pick, other than Romero, he liked best the answer was Fowler"

Shows what I know. Of course, the Jays taking another lefty at that point showed that they must have really liked him since it was far from a need.
Pistol - Wednesday, June 08 2005 @ 11:23 AM EDT (#119092) #
Rounds 11-18 are now listed above.
Mike Green - Wednesday, June 08 2005 @ 11:30 AM EDT (#119094) #
You'd have to lay odds against Josh Sowers ever being in a rotation with Josh Towers in Toronto, but youneverknow.

Actually, Sowers might fit in the Bush/Banks/Marcum/Towers line of pitchers. I don't know if the rhyming possibilities will ever be fully explored, but that may just be for the best.:)
the shadow - Wednesday, June 08 2005 @ 12:00 PM EDT (#119098) #
Bush/Banks/Marcum/Towers

Brings forth Josh Sowers
Craig B - Friday, June 10 2005 @ 02:28 PM EDT (#119347) #
I would suspect that Sowers has his ticket punched for the bullpen, though. Maybe the Jays see a little bit of Jamie Vermilyea in him.
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