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Jeff Blair reports that the Jays have reached an agreement with Matt Stairs. Terms of the deal were not disclosed.
"I expect I'll be doing the same thing with Toronto that I've done most of my career: play a little first base, DH to spell off Frank (Thomas), and be a bat off the bench late in the game."



From that quote it doesn't sound like the Jays are filling the 4th OF role. If the Jays expected Stairs to play in the OF I would expect that he would have known about it.

The Jays bench at this point consists of John MacDonald, Jason Phillips, and now Stairs. Assuming a 12 man pitching staff this would leave one remaining bench spot. There's still a hole in the OF (if Stairs isn't playing there) and backing up 3B (MacDonald is the only player that can cover 3B) and there's only one bench spot left over. Given that I suspect that the Jays plan to use Stairs in the OF occasionally as it doesn't make a lot of sense otherwise. Unless there's another move Hattig would probably be the 25th player.

Is the early 90s version of Tony Phillips still available?
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Mike Green - Wednesday, December 06 2006 @ 08:52 PM EST (#160235) #
Check out Matt Stairs' bbref comparables.  Eric Davis?



Pistol - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 09:01 AM EST (#160301) #

Morning update:

Jason Stark has it as a one year deal for Stairs.  The Star wrote that Ricciardi had Stairs as one of two players being considered for the 4th OF spot.  Additionally, from the Star article it sounds like Chris Gomez would be the final bench player signed.

There's been some chatter about the Dodgers and Jays because the Dodgers could trade a starter (Penny) & could use a big hitter and the Jays could use a starter & might not re-sign Wells.  At this point I think that's just speculation because it would make some sense.  I don’t think the teams have talked.

Rule 5 draft is today.  It's expected to be brief - Kevin Goldstein at BP put the over/under at 6 in the major league portion.  Of course the Jays could potentially lose Gronkiewicz  and Vermilyea.  If they lose Vermilyea it'll be frustrating because I think there's no chance that any team would take either Robinzon Diaz or Sergio Santos, particularly Diaz.  Gronkiewicz looks like Steve Andrade-lite and Andrade hasn't been able to catch on in the majors so if a team took him I wouldn't lose sleep.

Gerry - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 09:31 AM EST (#160303) #
The Jays did not lose anyone in the major league portion of the rule 5 draft.  They did select Jason Smith, a shortstop from the Cubs.
Paul D - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 09:33 AM EST (#160304) #
The Rule 5 Draft happened this morning.

Here's the BA link


Couple of surprises:  No Blue jays were taken, and Josh Hamilton went first overall.

The Jays took Jason Smith, SS, Cubs.

Josh Phelps was also selected, by the Yankees.

Paul D - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 09:39 AM EST (#160307) #
Jason Smith's Stats, from baseball cube

Career 730 OPS in the minors, including an OBP of 307.

He did have an excellent year last year, including spending some time in Colorado.

Born in 1977, drafted in 1993.

dave - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 09:41 AM EST (#160309) #
Chuck - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 09:44 AM EST (#160310) #

There's been some chatter about the Dodgers and Jays because the Dodgers could trade a starter (Penny) & could use a big hitter and the Jays could use a starter & might not re-sign Wells.  At this point I think that's just speculation because it would make some sense.

I don't see Wells getting traded to any teams that already have a center fielder, even mediocrities like Juan Pierre.

Much of Wells' value (at least long term if not so much on the ~$5M he'll be getting in 2007) is tied up in his ability to play center field. Move him to a corner and a lot of his value gets removed. (Of course, on the Dodgers, Pierre would be the one who'd need to be moved to LF to accommodate Wells, but then that would remove some of Pierre's value, such as it is).

Further, while Wells may well have turned the corner offensively, the last time he put up a big offensive season (OPS+ of 131 in 2003), he followed it up with two OPS+'s of just around 100. My gut tells me that his 2007 will look more like 2006 (OPS+ of 126) than 2004-2005, but this is far from a certainty. A team looking to add a big bat for 2007 may not be entirely convinced that Wells will fit the bill.

While Wells would help pretty much any team in 2007, I'm not sure who the real market for him is. I think Texas still needs a center fielder. But who else?

braden - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 10:03 AM EST (#160315) #
Rosenthal is reporting that the deal is for 4/$45M, not 3/$24.  That, apparently, is what the Royals have offered Miguel Batista.
Mike Green - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 10:17 AM EST (#160319) #
It's silly time.  Rafael Soriano for Horacio Ramirez.  Miguel Batista and Gil Meche as $11 million per annum pitchers for the Royals.  

Cashman continued his hot streak of the last 6 months by picking up Josh Phelps in the Rule 5.  I expect Phelps to stick with the Yankees and to make a signficant contribution for the next couple of years.  The Yanks payroll figures to be slightly less than last year (after they're done with Igawa), but the club looks to me to be a powerhouse in the making.
Paul D - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 10:21 AM EST (#160320) #
The AAA portion of the draft is over (and is in the same BA link I provided earlier.)

The Jays didn't select anyone, but they did lose Francisco Mateo to the Reds.

The AA portion has just started.

Chuck - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 10:28 AM EST (#160322) #

If the Jays want to improve this year, I don't see any alternative OTHER than trading Wells. They have to get some pitching, and moving him might be the only way to do it.

I disagree. I believe that any trade involving Wells will make the Jays weaker in 2007, though stronger thereafter.
 
With Wells having just one year on his contract, any team acquiring him is not going to give up pitching of commensurate worth. They would give up pitching whom the Jays would value more for their impending long term contributions than for what they could provide in 2007.
 
A trade of Wells would be a sign (to me, anyway) that the team is less interested in going for the playoffs in 2007 than it is in subsequent years. I don't judge the merits of this, I'm just stating my belief.
 
With the team's inability to lure a #3 starter with $40M, and with the the 3-4-5 slots looking like Chacin, Marcum, Towers, Ricciardi may well have to acknowledge (if only privately) that 2007 might not be the year to make the run. Of course, this message would never be articulated publicly, and it would, in retrospect, make the Thomas signing seem inappropriate.
 
On the topic of #3 starters, why has there been so much wanton pursuit of Lilly and Meche, but none of Suppan? Did Suppan re-sign with St. Louis without letting anyone know? His low K rates notwithstanding, he has had ERA+'s of better than 100 for the past three seasons. He has less stuff than Lilly and Meche, but has had more success.

Paul D - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 10:37 AM EST (#160324) #
Oh, one more comment on the Rule 5 draft.

With the 4th pick, the Pittsburgh Pirates selected pitcher Sean White...... from the Pittsburgh Pirates.

Chuck - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 10:37 AM EST (#160325) #

Cashman continued his hot streak of the last 6 months by picking up Josh Phelps in the Rule 5. 

The times are topsy turvy indeed. Cashman seems to be gaining more elbow room in the control booth with each passing year and is acting in a way that should cause everyone in the AL east panic. If the Yankees are going to (a) spend, (b) re-stock the minors and (c) pay more attention to the end of their bench, then that's a combination to inspire fear. The Phelps acquisition, in and of itself, is fairly irrelevant, but it is symptomatic of a changing mindset.

As for the potential Soriano acquisition... just why does Bavasi have a job? Really? What in his track record suggests that he should be a GM?

Mark - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 10:39 AM EST (#160326) #
Missing out on Lilly and Meche is not necessarily a bad thing. Neither was in the category of a Ryan or Burnett (although amazingly enough are being paid like they are) I have faith that the Jays will get creative and get something done. Maybe signing Gagne and moving League into the rotation, or trading a player not named Wells. This off season has suddenly become a lot more interesting.
JohnnyMac - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 10:40 AM EST (#160327) #
Good question Chuck.

Suppan, while being a .500 pitcher is still a guy who has performed well in the postseason. One would assume he would attract more interest now.

How much do you think he could go for considering the demand for .500 pitchers in this market?

Mike Green - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 10:42 AM EST (#160328) #
Suppan has been in pretty much the ideal environment. He's in the weaker league, and gets a fair number of ground balls, which the excellent St. Louis infield turns into outs disproportionately.  His line drive rate has been pretty high.  He'd probably put up an ERA of about 5 in the Rogers Centre.  As would Meche.  Frankly, assuming good health, I'd rather have Marcum, Janssen or McGowan in there than either of them. 



Chuck - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 10:55 AM EST (#160329) #

Mike, you're probably correct about Suppan, for all the reasons you cited. But that doesn't explain everyone else's reluctance to pursue him. I mean, his name just never seems to come up as part of the tier B group (Padilla, Lilly, Meche). Why aren't the Royals also paying him $11M? Jealousy over his accomplishments elsewhere in the state of Missouri?

While my preference would be for Ted Rogers to spend every last dime he has (it's his money, why would I care?) on Bonds, Zito, Lilly, Meche, Gagne, Sidd Finch, Honus Wagner, Shoeless Joe, et al, and position the team to really compete in 2007, the pragmatic side of my nature says that something good can come of 2007, if only in an 83-win season.

With so many rotation spots up for grabs, 2007 could be the year to separate the wheat from the chaff and decide, moving forward, which pitchers have a future and which do not. I know it's not as easy as all that, since pitchers can take a few years to sort themselves out, but I think the team needs to unmuddy the waters. Will Chacin, Marcum, Janssen and McGowan become utile, inexpensive cogs that allow the team to focus its spending elsewhere in 2008, or are they merely vapourware?

Jordan - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 11:11 AM EST (#160331) #
Reports indicate the White Sox have dealt Jon Garland to Houston for Willy Taveras and Taylor Buchholz. Again, this deal looks better for the 'Stros than the ChiSox.
Mike Green - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 11:12 AM EST (#160332) #
I don't know, Chuck.  The evidence that Miguel Batista is a noticeably better pitcher than Jeff Suppan eludes me.
Jordan - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 11:43 AM EST (#160339) #

If the Blue Jays are seriously thinking of going into 2007 with Royce Clayton, John McDonald and Jason Smith on the major-league roster, something has gone screwy at the RC.

Here's the Globe on Ricciardi's 0-for-2 on the FA pitching market. I'm not heartbroken that Meche went elsewhere -- if he really joined a last-place organization for an extra $1.2M per year rather than jump into a pennant race, then I'm even less concerned about losing out on him. And while Lilly would probably have continued to be consistently inconsistent had he remained, the Jays are now in an unpleasant position not seen since the Delgado departure -- the FA market has left them with a serious hole to fill, and their options are limited. Jeff Suppan is the very definition of meh; he's never had an AL ERA below 4.34, and he would be 4.50+ in the AL East. But Lilly's innings have to come from somewhere -- I have faith that Marcum and Janssen will be effective starters, but I don't have faith that they'll get there in 2007.

Chuck is correct that trading Wells would weaken the team right now -- no one's going to give up serious big-league talent for a pending free agent. It would, in effect, be an admission that the Jays aren't really going for it in 2007.  But I'm starting to wonder if that isn't their best option right now -- save their money, let their young talent develop and become more effective and trade-attractive, and reload for 2008. It won't happen -- it'd be a PR disaster, for one thing -- and I think they'll take the money they didn't spend and put it towards keeping Wells long-term, which on balance is probably a good thing.

I guess I'm just a little disturbed that the Jays were outspent by so little by a couple of second-division clubs for the services of the two pitchers they'd specifically targeted. I could understand (and, in retrospect, be more than a little relieved) that Matt Clement chose the World Series champion Red Sox over the Jays a couple years back. I don't really understand why Lilly and Meche chose Chicago and (apparently) Kansas City for a not-appreciable difference in dollars. Something may have changed in the market's perception of Toronto, and not in a good way. Either that, or the Jays didn't choose their targets very well.

Jordan - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 12:04 PM EST (#160341) #

I suppose I'm just not as high on Buchholz and Floyd as others are. Buchholz has spent three years at Triple-A without getting his ERA under 4.81, and his K/9 rate has exceeded 7.5/9 only twice -- once in Rookie Ball when he was 18, and last year in 44 innings pitched. His major-league ERA in more than 100 IP is 5.89. Floyd has spent parts of three seasons in the majors, and his first 100 IP have produced a 6.96 ERA;  his K/9 has been below 7.0 ever since he hit AAA in 2004. And Buchholz has now been traded twice in the last two years -- that's a red flag (cf. Jason Arnold & John-Ford Griffin). Both of these guys unquestionably have live arms, but I don't see the evidence they know what to do with them. Meanwhile, the Phils and Astros got proven, reliable starters in return. I like their ends of the deal better.

Mike Green - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 12:17 PM EST (#160344) #
I do not know what happened with Lilly or Meche, but I am not perturbed in the least by it.  The optimistic read is that Ricciardi has matured some in his approach, with the laser-like focus being tempered with some cool reasoned judgment.  If that's right, the next step is for him to keep his cards a little closer to chest from the outset, so that he doesn't suffer the p.r. problem of expectations unmet.

The club has salary room, which can be a very useful asset in the trade market.  This does not necessarily mean a trade involving Vernon Wells. 

Gerry - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 12:18 PM EST (#160345) #

Jordan:

I wonder about the overall direction of the Jays.  Initially under JP the plan was that it was tough to get free agents to come to Toronto, and expensive, and the answer was to develop the farm system, and the kids, and compete that way.  Then over the last year or two the Jays have morphed into a generic "shop till we drop" team which worked well last off-season but didn't work this off-season.  I don't think the Jays can go back to trading Wells and calling themselves a development team from a PR perspective. 

However if I asked "what is the Jays philosophy for competing?" I am not sure how to answer it.  They don't really have one from what I can see, or maybe the one they had, develop the farm, hasn't worked out the way they wanted it to.

If the Jays don't want to trade Vernon Wells then their other options are limited.  They could sign a lesser free agent; they could trade a regular everyday player, although the backups are not there; or they can trade prospects, but most of the Jays prospects won't bring a big return.  I hope JP doesn't decide he has to trade Adam Lind for pitching out of this setback.

timpinder - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 01:05 PM EST (#160348) #

Well, I'm quite relieved that Lilly and Meche went elsewhere.  And I think Suppan would perform slightly worse than Marcum in the AL East.  In my opinion, Lilly was the only pitcher the Jays went after that would have been a real step above the likes of Marcum, Janssen, Towers, etc.....

As for the notion that the Jays would be a weaker team in 2007 if they traded Wells, I think that depends on the return.  If he was traded for prospects, absolutely the Jays would be a weaker team in 2007.  However, for the sake of argument, lets say he was traded to the Dodgers for Penny and Ethier.  Taking a step back and looking at it objectively, which team would you rather have?  Halladay/Burnett/Chacin/Marcum/Towers and Johnson/Wells/Rios, OR Halladay/Burnett/Penny/Chacin/Marcum and Ethier/Rios/Johnson.  I guess it's a matter of preference, but I would predict that the latter team would finish the season with a better record.  The icing on the cake would be the extra money available for the Jays in the 2007-2008 off-season which, at least for now, looks a lot deeper than this year's.

ayjackson - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 01:10 PM EST (#160349) #

Gerry,

I agree with your concerns for the most part.  I think the strategy may still be there, but there has been a cash infusion by ownership.  The budget has gone from $50m to $100m in a short period and the best way to increase your payroll over that period is free agent signings.  I would expect that the payroll will become a little more stable around $100m and JP can then display a strategy of trading high-price surplus and players approaching a costly FA day for salary protected prospects and regulars.

I say "expect", but I mean "hope".  I think you share my concern that JP might panic at not getting his starters and dump a Lind, McGowan or cheap regular (Reed) for a marginal, expensive pitcher.  It's robbing Peter to pay Paul.  The strategy the JP championed upon his arrival, I believe, would dictate that he trade Wells (big payday in waiting) for young regulars and prospects.

We'll have to wait and see.

Pistol - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 01:12 PM EST (#160350) #
Apparently Meche is getting 5 years from KC.  It's not easy trying to sign players when you're a bad team so you have to go above and beyond.  In this case in both dollars and years.

I don't mind the Jays not getting Lilly or Meche.  It would have been nice, but the years and dollars were both at the extremes of comfortability.  The key for the Jays will be replacing Lilly's innings from last year and that picture is fuzzy right now.
Jordan - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 01:23 PM EST (#160354) #

The optimistic read is that Ricciardi has matured some in his approach, with the laser-like focus being tempered with some cool reasoned judgment.

That's fair. I am glad that Ricciardi didn't feel tempted to overbid on mid-level talent like Lilly and Meche -- and if Meche is getting five years from KC, all the better that the Jays didn't try to match that. There are players you get into bidding wars for, and there are those you leave for other teams to overpay.

Jordan - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 03:17 PM EST (#160366) #
Looks like that White Sox-Astros trade never got off the ground after all. My bad.
Pistol - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 03:39 PM EST (#160369) #
Looks like that White Sox-Astros trade never got off the ground after all.

One of the Astro pitchers failed the physical.
timpinder - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 03:54 PM EST (#160372) #

-Rotoworld's reporting that the Jays are close to signing Chris Gomez.

-The Denver post is reporting that the Jays might be interested in Jennings and speculating that the Jays may offer Johnson.

-The Riverside Press, LA times and Toronto Sun are all either reporting or speculating that the Dodgers are interested in aquiring Wells and may offer Penny and Kemp or Ethier.

The only one of those that matters I guess is the Gomez signing, since anyone, reputable media source or otherwise, can speculate about potential trades.  It doesn't mean that the teams involved have even so much as talked to each other.

Mike D - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 04:08 PM EST (#160376) #

Excellent point about salary room, Mike G.  With all the navel-gazing in the Toronto media, you'd think that Vernon Wells is the only player in a contract year in the league. 

Jason Jennings and Jake Westbrook are both in contract years, and the Rockies in particular are in panic mode with Jennings.  If Wells, in light of his impending free agency, won't command absolute top-drawer talent in return, then why won't the price for Jennings also be correspondingly lower than fair value?

Whatever else happens, the Jays will not punt 2007 to rebuild.  It would allow Vernon's contract-year status to override the entire structure of the club, in terms of how both salary and playing time are allocated.

John Northey - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 04:31 PM EST (#160378) #
If the Jays go for Jason Jennings via Reed Johnson they would be selling Johnson at a high and getting a guy who pitched well at Coors when it was the hitters dream.  A bit wilder than ideal, but getting a solid pitcher for Reed is a good deal imo. 

As to the 'go for it now' idea, if they do go for Jennings and he walks they get 2 more picks continuing to build up for the period after Halladay and gang have their contracts expire after 2010 which is a very good idea.  Money flows today and might allow them to sign another starter next winter (deeper FA class) while losing guys who they have now, thus getting draft picks and keeping the team strong for the same price. 

The more I think about it the more sense it makes, trade some guys who are in arbitration years and coming off career years, bring in 'final year' guys who will produce draft picks post season while providing production (and fans) in '07 with a potential playoff berth.  Get an easy 'build for tomorrow' built into a 'win today' situation.  '09/'10 could be hard as contracts come to a close here for the big guns but should the Jays make the playoffs in '07 or '08 then the $ will be there to replace them until the '07/'08 picks start emerging. 

Chuck - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 06:04 PM EST (#160388) #
BP weighs in on outfield arms. Favourable news for Jays' fans.
ayjackson - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 06:09 PM EST (#160390) #

As was mentioned earlier, excess payroll room could have its advantages.  Bartolo Colon has one year and $14m left on his contract and could probably be had on the cheap - depending on how much salary the acquiring club agreed to take on.  He should resume throwing again next month when he's recovered from his surgery (partially torn rotator cuff.

Though I'm not certain how the Elias Rankings work, I would think that Bartolo would rank as a type A free agent.

It might be a bit risky, but I think it is something that has at least crossed the minds of the Blue Jay brass.

Malcolm Little - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 06:48 PM EST (#160391) #

So far this off-season, we've added.....Clayton. I'm ok with that. Not to revisit that deal too much, but rather than entering the season with little depth there, he grabbed a guy now with no less of draft pick who can field SS in the majors. For a contract so small that that player could be cut. This isn't signing Batista for 3rd.

Adams gets to hide in AAA until he figures things out.

Where Clayton, Stairs, and the Rule 5 SS hurt is in roster construction. Carrying two or more of Clayton, the Rule 5 SS, Gomez, and John Macdonald leaves the team brutally thin on SS production and worse on 3B production should Glaus go down (not that I want that, but you have to plan for that with a somewhat brittle fellow).

Hattig's possibly making the roster or being called up isn't enough insurance at 3B.

A guy like Hinske would have been so much better than Stairs; ironically, he was traded to save $3 million or so on the 2007 payroll, and with JP's mercifully pulling out of the Lilly/Meche nosedive, that money will go unspent, and Hinske will be useful for the evil enemy. I wonder if they could get him back for a song.

There are scant few position players coming down the pipeline. These little deals now to establish backups and injury replacements are going to be huge for the Jays. I've blocked from my memory which year it was they got caught in an injury epidemic and featured Berg at 1B and other follies, but I fear that possibility for 2007.

How would I recommend JP solve this? Reacquire Hinkse, and get Clayton-esque players who would accept AAA assignments as Phillips did last year. Agressively push some of the youngsters up if need be to see if they are ever going to cut it (Santos, Ford-Griffin, etc).

And I hate to say it, but entertain seriously any offers from the the Dodgers for Wells, with a window for them to resign him, too. Penny and Kemp and prospects? That's looking sweet now.

I'd also recommend that he make a big push for Lieber for a reliever.

Being in a position to take on payroll in the trade market looks like our salvation now.

Malcolm Little - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 07:03 PM EST (#160392) #

One last thought.....

....How useful would Pat Burrell be to the Jays? Coupling his acquisition with trading an OF for pitching help would be inventive.

Thomas - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 07:33 PM EST (#160395) #
If the Jays are relatively confident about Gagne's health, I might revisit the notion of trying to acquire him. If the price is reasonable, which is no guarantee considering Boras is his agent and the Red Sox are reportedly interested, and he's willing to serve in the setup role, he'd add substantial depth to the pen. I'm not sure about any of those three variables (health, price and role), but I salivate at the thought of League-Gagne-Ryan in the last three innings of a game. It would rival Speier-Shields-Rodriguez and I can't think of any other bullpen that would have three excellent arms.

Also, perhaps more importantly, it would give us depth in the bullpen which would allow Toronto to explore trading relievers for starters, as suggested above. They wouldn't make up the whole deal, but arms like Frasor and Rosario may become superfluous in that scenario and could become part of a package to acquire someone else.

Perhaps this is "sitting on a pile of money" syndrome, but if Gagne has genuine interest in playing in Toronto, I think JP should at least follow it to see where it leads. And who knows, maybe he can trade with Krivsky and fetch something substantial for a middle reliever.

King Ryan - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 07:44 PM EST (#160397) #
Wait...so Gil freaking Meche signs for 5/55 and there are some acting like JP lost something?  I can't remember the last time I felt so relieved.   I'm just so happy right now that JP couldn't "beat" that.  Gil Meche is no sure bet to be better than any pitcher the Jays have on their roster currently, including Josh Towers. 

I seriously don't think some people are looking closely enough at this.  Casey Janssen was as good of a pitcher last year as Gil Meche has been over the past four years.  

Thank God for the Royals. 

huckamaniac - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 07:47 PM EST (#160398) #
At the end of this article by Jon Heyman it says that Gagne isn't interested in setting up for Mariano Rivera. Mike Wilner also said earlier today that the Jays weren't a candidate for Gagne because he wanted to close. So it's unlikely to see him in Toronto next season.
Thomas - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 08:17 PM EST (#160401) #
I had heard he was interested in closing, but I never knew it was the language was that strong. If he insists on closing it's more than unlikely. It's not going to happen.
Leigh - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 10:27 PM EST (#160410) #
From the Batter's Box Roster page [information submitted January of 2004]:

1B/OF Leigh Sprague
Bats: R
Throws: R
Born: Tracy, NB
Resides: Fredericton, NB
Major-League Comp to Little League Career: Rob Deer
Favourite Team: Toronto Blue Jays
Favourite Player (current): Matt Stairs

Finally.

Smithers - Thursday, December 07 2006 @ 11:15 PM EST (#160412) #
Well, it seems like Barry Bonds is resigning with the Giants.  They were really the only logical choice all along.  The deal is one year for $16 million.  Could this be the last season for him - hang around for just long enough to beat Aaron's record?



andrewkw - Friday, December 08 2006 @ 12:23 AM EST (#160414) #
I wish the Giants had gotten Lee or one of the other free agent outfielders they were going after.  Only so they would move on from Bonds and no one else would offer him a contract.
Parker - Friday, December 08 2006 @ 03:18 AM EST (#160415) #
Same here.  I was secretly hoping he'd be informally blackballed and not offered a contract by any MLB organization.  However, I have to say this is probably a good move by the Giants.  Bonds' ego seems to be shrinking at the same rate as his ability to dominate ball games at will, and despite the steroid abuse he's still a fan favorite in San Fran.  He'll be fun to watch for casual fans who want to be see him clobber the ball into McCovey's.  For the rest of us, it'll be fun to watch him hobble his way around left field all season long and turn opposing batters' routine flyouts into bases-clearing doubles.
Craig B - Friday, December 08 2006 @ 07:15 AM EST (#160418) #

Same here.  I was secretly hoping he'd be informally blackballed and not offered a contract by any MLB organization. 

Wow, it's easy to see who occupies the moral high ground here!

For the rest of us, it'll be fun to watch him hobble his way around left field all season long and turn opposing batters' routine flyouts into bases-clearing doubles.

The flaw in this theory is that Bonds still moves around decently in the outfield, although the Giants do try to rest him as much as possible to protect his injury.  For one thing, he's still a much better outfielder than Carlos Lee who you mentioned earlier - Lee brings "stumbling around" to a new level.  (That is, if you don't count Adam Dunn, who has made all the previous standards of stumbling worthless)

Mike Green - Friday, December 08 2006 @ 09:23 AM EST (#160425) #
Barry Bonds blackballed? Geez.  It's one thing to say that he's not Babe Ruth, as I do.  It's another for his right to work to be taken away.  For that, one needs clear rules, with described sanctions for their violation, and damn good evidence of the violation.  There is one thing that is certain in relation to baseball's steroid problem- there were no rules, no sanctions and no attempts to gather evidence at the relevant times. 
Thomas - Friday, December 08 2006 @ 10:01 AM EST (#160428) #
For the rest of us, it'll be fun to watch him hobble his way around left field all season long and turn opposing batters' routine flyouts into bases-clearing doubles.

The problem with this theory is that every advanced metric has Bonds at roughly average in the field last year. An example of that is Dial's ratings over at BTF. Part of that is likely park factor, as his ratings have gone up ever since the Giants moved to Pac Bell, but he's clearly not the butcher in the field that Willingham, Dunn, Lee and the other terrible fielders are. He's also not the terrible fielder that people who rely solely on his age and gimpy knees to form a judgement portray him to be.

Might he better at first? Sure. Is he as good as he used to be? No. Is his arm below average? Yes.

Does he have good instinctions, strong positioning and a keen sense of his own limitations? Yes.
Thomas - Friday, December 08 2006 @ 10:07 AM EST (#160431) #
For one thing, he's still a much better outfielder than Carlos Lee who you mentioned earlier - Lee brings "stumbling around" to a new level.  (That is, if you don't count Adam Dunn, who has made all the previous standards of stumbling worthless)

Have you ever seen Willingham? I've only seen him for a few innings, but he's absolutely terrible. I may have seen him at his worst, as this was the game the Marlins blew a 4-run lead to the Braves in the ninth, but Willingham was brutal. Willingham was noticably below average in every single component of defence I could think of, from awareness to speed to hands and so on. In this game at least, he was beyond awful.
Mike D - Friday, December 08 2006 @ 11:40 AM EST (#160447) #
In fairness, Thomas, Willingham is a converted catcher.  He ain't in the lineup for his (all-around bad) fielding in any event.
Craig B - Friday, December 08 2006 @ 12:22 PM EST (#160454) #

Have you ever seen Willingham?

I must admit, I haven't seen him enough to make that judgment (did he play in OF during the Marlins/Jays series?), although his stats are just terrible - as bad as Dunn's.  Dunn, of course, is the first guy I've seen in a long time who looks afraid of having the ball hit to him.  At least Manny, bless his butchering heart, genuinely enjoys his fielding. 

The weird thing about Lee, is that despite his huge bulk, Carlos Lee is fast... he runs really well.  He just has no instincts for playing the field at all... or maybe he just really hates it. 

John Northey - Friday, December 08 2006 @ 12:45 PM EST (#160463) #

Just checked Bonds stats and confirmed what I thought, he stole 3 bases last year without getting caught.  In '05 he didn't steal any but played just 14 games.  Going from 2001 (73 HR) to present he has stolen 38 bases and been caught 6 times.  16-1 since 2003. 

For a guy with bad knees that is amazing.  Heck, for a guy who has good knees a 16-1 stretch is amazing.  To me this lands into the 'baseball intellegence' category.  Bonds is a very, very smart player and that is why he has done all that he has done.  From the amazing numbers posted once he was moved out of the leadoff slot in Pittsburgh (due to losing in arbitration due to his poor RBI totals - he pushed hard to be moved in the lineup and did whatever was needed to convince the manager to do just that), to going onto steroids (insert legal disclaimer here) after McGwire's big year and lack of concern shown by baseball and fans in general, to being a solid (via stats) outfielder despite poor knees who can steal bases when needed as well.

To me Bonds is one of the best every, drugs or not.  He plays to win and does all that is needed to achieve it - from taking walks at an insane pace and not chasing balls in the dirt to all I mentioned above.  I hope he sticks around for a few more years and makes it to 800 HR's and gives A-Rod and the like a hard target to reach.

Thomas - Friday, December 08 2006 @ 02:30 PM EST (#160472) #
Yeah, I didn't have expectations about his fielding, but I've rarely had no expectations dashed so thoroughly. Willingham would be a good fit at DH, obviously. I've always thought Florida should explore trading him to an AL team if they've decided to keep Jacobs at 1B for the forseeable future. I also thought Florida was too slow in promoting him. He missed a year due to injury, but with a player of his profile, particularly if you don't think he'll stick at catcher, I think they should have challenged him sooner. They were slow to promote him to the majors in 2005 and in 2004 he went back to AA for nearly the whole season after splitting the previous year at A+ and AA and putting up an OPS over .970 at both stops.
Craig B - Monday, December 11 2006 @ 02:48 PM EST (#160595) #

excuse me for believing that criminals should be punished rather than rewarded

I'll excuse you for believing that criminals should be punished through the criminal justice system, sure.  Calling for a person to be stripped of his right to work because he is the target of an investigation (Bonds remains unindicted so he has not even been charged with a crime) is over the top in my book.  Currently the criminal justice system has thrown its entire weight behind wringing out even a list of charges against Barry Bonds and has come up totally empty.

He ain't no hero, but the solution isn't to organize a  blackball party to kick him out of the game.

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