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Another win for the good guys yesterday but it wasn't a totally good news day.  Jesse Litsch and Marc Rzepczynski were good and very good respectively while Travis Snider had the one big hit the Jays needed.

On the not so good side Yunel Escobar is being examined to see if he has a concussion after a collision at third base.

Elsewhere there must be panic in the streets of Boston as the Sawx drop to 0-5.  On the streets of Tampa, whose team is in the same predicament, there might be a slight note of concern.

 



Jesse Litsch pitched well giving up six hits while pitching into the seventh inning.  Jesse had seven K's.  In watching the game Litsch kept the ball down well, unlike Reyes on Tuesday.  There are divided opinions on Litsch among Jays fans and I think that comes down to the type of pitcher Litsch is.  Litsch's fastball averages 89 mph and he needs to hit his spots to be successful.  If his command is off he will be hit around and be gone from the game early.  Jesse is very much a hit or miss pitcher, one good start can be followed by a poor one.  Someone with better "stuff" can get by better when his command is off but Litsch is less likely to escape an off night.

It was interesting that Farrell left Litsch in until he reached 100 pitches.  Last season Cito would yank Litsch after eighty or so, Gaston appeared be happy to get five or six innings out of Litsch.

From Brooks Baseball here is a summary of Litsch's start.

Pitch Statistics
Pitch Type Avg Speed Max Speed Avg H-Break Avg V-Break Count Strikes / % Swinging Strikes / % Linear Weights Time to Plate
FF (FourSeam Fastball) 89.40 91.1 -4.54 5.92 25 15 / 60.00% 2 / 8.00% -0.3203 0.418
SI (Sinker) 88.82 90.9 -7.62 3.44 21 10 / 47.62% 1 / 4.76% 1.7761 0.421
CH (Changeup) 81.95 84.3 -4.39 -0.88 11 8 / 72.73% 1 / 9.09% -0.0269 0.456
SL (Slider) 85.01 87.9 1.38 0.47 18 10 / 55.56% 1 / 5.56% -0.4588 0.438
CU (Curveball) 82.55 84.1 2.12 -3.94 13 10 / 76.92% 5 / 38.46% -1.1773 0.454
FC (Cutter) 89.68 91.4 -1.61 6.79 12 8 / 66.67% 0 / 0.00% 0.0407 0.418

Pitch classifications provided by the Gameday Algorithm and may be inaccurate.

You can see that Litsch throws three fastballs, a four seamer, a cutter and a sinker, all around 89 mph.  He adds a change-up, a slider and a curve.  His pitch count shows great mixing of his pitches, 25 four seamers were the most of any pitch.  Jesse had good results from his curve, he threw 10 and five ended with swinging strikes.

 

JP Arencibia continues to play well.  He did have his first passed ball last night, he looked like he took his eye off the ball.  But he threw out another runner, even though he stepped away from the batter first to give him some room to throw the ball.  JP has 10 at-bats and do you know how many K's he has?  How about zero?  That could be the most unexpected stat in the young season so far.

 

Travis Snider's home run was the key hit in the game, other than the one to Escobar's head, but the Jays caught a break just before the homer.  Cliff Pennington was unable to make a play on a ball that was called a hit but could have been called an error.  Pennington is playing with a sore shoulder and it might have hindered him making a play on a ground ball from EE.  Had Oakland got at least one out the game would have been a lot closer and might have had a different result.

Marc Rzepczynski was outstanding in relief.  Here is his chart.

Pitch Statistics
Pitch Type Avg Speed Max Speed Avg H-Break Avg V-Break Count Strikes / % Swinging Strikes / % Linear Weights Time to Plate
FF (FourSeam Fastball) 89.80 89.8 10.97 4.83 1 0 / 0.00% 0 / 0.00% 0.0369 0.424
SI (Sinker) 90.53 91.6 10.22 0.82 16 10 / 62.50% 3 / 18.75% -0.8227 0.413
CH (Changeup) 82.60 83.2 7.21 -2.41 2 2 / 100.00% 0 / 0.00% 0.0000 0.456
SL (Slider) 83.35 84.6 0.10 -5.63 8 6 / 75.00% 1 / 12.50% -0.9246 0.449
Pitch classifications provided by the Gameday Algorithm and may be inaccurate.

16 sinkers and 8 sliders makes Jays fans happy.

 

Finally, adding to a comment by Mike Green in yesterday's thread, many will say that Escobar wouldn't have hurt his head if he had been running hard out of the box.  He wasn't and he probably never will.  Bobby Cox hated that and there are many in the game who hate it but I think that trait is one that is hard to change.  I don't expect Escobar will ever run hard out of the box if he presumes he will be out.  So what do we do about it?  We can run him out of town like the Braves did.  Or we can say he is an imperfect player.  Some players always swing at the outside pitch and try and pull it.  Some players swing at the pitch in the dirt.  Some pitchers make the same mistake with the same pitch again and again.  Most, if not all, players are imperfect.  Escobar is one of those but I think the plusses outweigh the minuses.

 

What did you see in yesterdays game?

Day baseball today, getaway day with a good pitching match-up, Romero vs Cahill at 12:37.   Escobar is not in the lineup, John McDonald is at short and Jayson Nix at third.

 

7 April 2011: Chalk Up Another One | 72 comments | Create New Account
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Ryan Day - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 10:27 AM EDT (#232274) #
A probably meaningless but still encouraging stat: Adam Lind has four hits, including two doubles, against left-handers. He only had 16 hits against lefties in 2010, of which only four went for extra bases.
ayjackson - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 10:29 AM EDT (#232275) #

Fair comment on Escobar.

Small question on pitch speeds.  You cite average speed from Brooks, but isn't it max speed that is caught on a properly sighted radar gun and max speed that is reported on Fangraphs?

And Litsch throwing 6 different pitches over 10% of the time?  Sweet.

Flex - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 10:33 AM EDT (#232277) #
Arencibia has been all kinds of impressive so far. He seems to go about his business with a high degree of professionalism. And besides his baseball achievements, I loved the way, after his season debut game, he took a double creampie in the face, and then proceeded to give clear, thoughtful answers to Barry Davis's questions though all we could see of him were his eyeballs.

How much of his has to do with the expectations set by Farrell, or the influence of Wakamatsu, or Arencibia himself is hard to say. But early on, the kid has an aura about him that I like.

Mick Doherty - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 10:52 AM EDT (#232279) #
I assume it's the "average" speed of multiple pitches' "max" speed. That make sense?
Gerry - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 11:00 AM EDT (#232280) #
Mick nails it.  Max speed is top speed of one pitch.
uglyone - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 11:33 AM EDT (#232282) #
pray to jesus and thor that escobar is not out for long.

he is back to all-star form and we need him badly.
Thomas - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 12:41 PM EDT (#232288) #
After Escobar's injury, the Jays always looked likely to play today's game shorthanded, as it would have been difficult to get a player to Toronto from the West Coast by game time today. Now, the Jays will have until Friday to make a determination about the seriousness of Escobar's injury and can back-date his DL stint until today, if one is necessary.

Assuming Podsednik and Patterson aren't healthy (and I've heard nothing to suggest either is), I wonder if we'll see old friend Chris Woodward or Manny Mayorson if Escobar has a short DL stint. My guess is the team might not want to call Lawrie up until he's a) likely to stick and b) going to be playing every day. Either player would require opening a 40-man spot (although you could also remove them when demoting them without too much worry that they'd be claimed), so the alternative could be to not call up a player who can play short, but rather to promote Mastroianni for the few days.
Mike Forbes - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 02:08 PM EDT (#232293) #
Per sportsnet today, Escobar has a minor concussion. Will return next week. Not DL'ed as of yet.
sam - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 02:39 PM EDT (#232296) #
Well I thınk we just got our fırst glımpse of why many aren't too hıgh on JP's defensıve abılıtıes.  At that poınt ın the game, nothıng should get by you.  He just got lazy. 
Mike Forbes - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 02:41 PM EDT (#232297) #
P.S. - I really wish the Jays could rid themselves of Jason Frasor when Morrow and Francisco come off the DL. Villanueva, Janssen, Zep and Purcey have all looked much better than Frasor so far.  
Jonny German - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 02:42 PM EDT (#232298) #
Calling up Mastro to fill in is a great idea. Nix and McCoy are both capable of filling in at short if needed.
Jonny German - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 02:45 PM EDT (#232299) #
Right on Mike. What's the point in looking at a steady 7-year career when you've got a fresh week's data?
Mike Forbes - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 02:57 PM EDT (#232300) #
The seven years of watching Jason Frasor tells me that he is ineffective when trying to protect leads, keep games tied and any situation where there is some pressure involved. The majority of Frasor's good outings seem to come when the team is trailing. I personally would rather give someone else a chance to frustrate me to no end after seven long years.
Gerry - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 03:24 PM EDT (#232303) #

The Jays lost today, in frustrating fashion, but their run of luck cannot go on all season.  They won the first game against Oakland thanks to errors by the A's.  A play not made by Oakland contributed to yesterday's win.  And John Farrell has hit gold with most of his moves.  Today the luck went against the Jay's and Farrell's luck ran out too.

I was at the game and I was surpised when Farrell pulled Romero.  Ricky was at 93 pitches, had been in control, and Crisp had looked bad from the right side against him.  JPA might take some blame (from the stands I couldn't see exactly what happened with the wild pitch) but Farrell should be asked why he pulled Romero at that stage.

I agree that Frasor has pitched reasonably well over the years but at the game today a fast paced game had the life sucked out of it when Frasor came in.  I think they played seven innings in an hour and forty five minutes and it must have taken at least twenty minutes to play the top of the eighth.

Magpie - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 03:27 PM EDT (#232304) #
I feel your pain, Mike. That's exactly how I feel about Frasor. I've examined the data in detail, I know it's not really true, that it only seems that way... but still. Damn, but it really does seem that way. I feel your pain.

I don't know about Escobar growing or changing a whole lot. I know he acts like he's 22 but he's 28 years old, he turns 29 at the end of the year. He is who he is.
85bluejay - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 03:33 PM EDT (#232305) #

Could someone PLEASE send John Farrell a memo that Jason Frasor is an excellent pitcher when the game is NOT in doubt - he is not the guy to bring in when the game is on the line

only bad things happen - the team got lucky on Tuesday when Frasor served up that gopher ball & pressed their luck again - Frasor does not belong in close games.  

Chuck - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 03:35 PM EDT (#232306) #

I will say this about Frasor: I have never seen a pitcher who looks less confident and less like he actually wants to be out on the mound. And once being forced, presumably, to be out on the mound, he seems entirely reluctant to throw pitches.

I'm sure all this incongruous body language colours our impressions of him.

braden - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 03:56 PM EDT (#232307) #

Dotel activated and Janssen optioned to Vegas, per Shi Davidi.

 

Gerry - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 03:56 PM EDT (#232308) #
Casey Janssen has been optioned to Las Vegas.  Octavio Dotel will be activated tomorrow.
Kelekin - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 04:05 PM EDT (#232309) #
Poor Janssen.  Who gets bumped to AA? Or are we just going to release one of our many useless AAA relievers?
uglyone - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 04:12 PM EDT (#232310) #
A very safe general rule for baseball managers:

- never, never, never, ever, ever take your ace out of a game on 93 pitches as he's pitching a shutout in the 8th inning of a one run game.

very safe general rule.
ComebyDeanChance - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 04:16 PM EDT (#232311) #
There are three things everyman should learn by the age of 40. These are:

3. Do not wear white pants.

2. Unless you actually see a baby coming out of her, you never, ever, ask woman if she is pregnant.

1. Each year there will be fresh questions about whether Jason Frasor spits the bit in close and late games, with counter-claims that it's a mirage.

It's hard to lose games like today's that could have been won, but it's hard to win with a single run. I suspect that Farrell will grow more wary of using Frasor in situations like that, as Cito Gaston did, but will also be more wary of having pitches called in the dirt to Arencibia which is what I thought was an invitation to disaster.



Mike Green - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 04:23 PM EDT (#232313) #
I was at the game too, and as far as I was concerned, it was mostly just a tough loss and really not surprising in light of the missing bats of Escobar and Bautista. 

Romero pitched very well, but left the tying run on 3rd with one out.  Frasor did get the key strikeout on a pitch down and away, which Arencibia perhaps could have done a better job of blocking.  Two stolen bases later (Frasor takes a long time getting to the plate and Arencibia has difficulty getting the ball out of his glove) and a strikeout later, Frasor gives up the game-winning single on a hard-hit ground ball through the left side.  On an encouraging note, Arencibia came to the plate in the bottom of the eighth and had a solid at-bat despite what had happened in the top of the inning.



MatO - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 04:41 PM EDT (#232315) #

will also be more wary of having pitches called in the dirt to Arencibia which is what I thought was an invitation to disaster.

I guess you haven't seen Molina try and block pitches in the dirt or just generally catch the ball.

scottt - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 05:56 PM EDT (#232320) #
JPA keeps impressing me. Hitting .385 Sluggin 1.077 and still no strike out.  Who scored the Jays'only run again?

Out of the gate, we should expect him to make some mistakes here and there.

Davis hasn't looked as good in this series than in the first. Would be a good idea to promote a CF for the next 2 series.

I believe we're going to see Dotel pick up those high pressure spots from Frasor now.
Hodgie - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 06:02 PM EDT (#232321) #
"Well I thınk we just got our fırst glımpse of why many aren't too hıgh on JP's defensıve abılıtıes. At that poınt ın the game, nothıng should get by you. He just got lazy. "

Wow, it must be April. Much like Vernon Wells he probably doesn't care enough either.

Whether he SHOULD have made the play is debatable. The pitch was down and in, tailing away from his glove. He didn't try backhanding it and tried to square up the ball. Unfortunately it bounced off the right side of his chest protector and took a wild hop. It happens and calling it lazy is absurd.

TimberLee - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 06:06 PM EDT (#232322) #
CDChance:   Thanks for the life guidance combined with the bit of baseball wisdom. I shall pass this on to younger men.   'Tis for such nuggets that I peruse DaBox.
dan gordon - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 07:51 PM EDT (#232323) #

A game like this can turn on any one play.  The 3rd strike getting away from Arencibia.  The great catch by C.Jackson in right field to rob Lind with Nix on 2nd.  Romero not going for the out at 3B on the bunt, when it looked like he would have gotten the runner pretty easily.  !-run games are pretty much a toss-up.  Happy that they're 4-2 despite missing Bautista for 3 games, Escobar for 1 game, Davis for 2 games and Morrow, Francisco, Dotel, Podsednik and Patterson for all 6.  Dotel and presumably Bautista are back tomorrow, and hopefully the others should become available over the next couple of weeks.

Boston 0-6.  8 of their 9 regulars are hitting .231 or less.  Big signing Carl Crawford is hitting .174.  The Bosox slump won't last, but it's nice to see, from a Blue Jays standpoint.  Tampa, on the other hand is 0-6 and I think this is a pretty weak looking team.  They have scored 9 runs in the 6 games.  They haven't had the lead yet, ever, in any game.  Edwin Jackson struck out 13 of them today.  As for their offseason acquisitions, Manny is hitting .059 and he's actually got a higher average than Damon.  I wouldn't be surprised to see them in a battle with the O's for last place in the AL East.

Sorry to see Janssen get demoted, but this is such a deep bullpen.  He could pitch for a lot of mlb teams.

greenfrog - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 08:42 PM EDT (#232327) #
Good news about Junel after the big scare...hopefully he doesn't have any recurrence when he starts to work out or play ball.
Mike Green - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 09:15 PM EDT (#232329) #
One more thing. The word is going to get around the league pretty fast. Going first to third on Snider on a single to left-centre is not good aggressive baserunning, but just plain dumb.
ComebyDeanChance - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 09:15 PM EDT (#232330) #
The explanation that JPA got lazy, doesn't match up at all. I think this guy cares a huge amount. Here's his twitter acct. http://twitter.com/jparencibia9
Mike Green - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 09:21 PM EDT (#232331) #
Morrow and Francisco had unpleasant rehab outings in Florida tonight. Deck McGuire, on the other hand, mowed 'em down.
Alex Obal - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 09:44 PM EDT (#232332) #
For... a... guy... who... works.... so... slowly... it feels like Frasor doesn't do a great job of varying his times to the plate once he sets. That might be jumping to an incorrect conclusion from the steals today. I'm gonna focus on that next time he comes in, to keep myself sane.
greenfrog - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 09:58 PM EDT (#232336) #
The upcoming road trip should be a good test for the Jays, with Santana, Weaver, and Hernandez scheduled to start for Anaheim and Seattle, followed by four games in Boston (at which point I'm sure the Red Sox will be back in gear). You would have to think that the Jays would be happy with a split, especially with Escobar likely out for a few more games and Morrow still rehabbing. These west coast road swings always seem to be tough.
McNulty - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 10:19 PM EDT (#232338) #
Agreed with Greenfrog: A .500 road trip the Blue Jays would take in a heartbeat with the injuries they have. By the end of it, hopefully the Jays have Escobar, Bautista, Fransisco, Dotel and Morrow all back for a run at the Yankees.
Flex - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 10:22 PM EDT (#232339) #
I think JPA got eaten up by that ball. It looked to me as though he did everything he could and it just took a crazy bounce.

And as for Rule #2, ComebyDeanChance, where were you when I needed you in 1986?

Jeremy - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 10:44 PM EDT (#232340) #
Is it wrong to hope that the Yankees sweep the Sox this weekend?  Would the sounds out of Boston after an 0-9 start be worth it?
electric carrot - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 11:02 PM EDT (#232341) #
And as for Rule #2, ComebyDeanChance, where were you when I needed you in 1986?

And actually I have some follow-ups on rule #1.  What about off-white?  Can there be white checks in them?  What about white shorts?  Don't the blue jays wear white pants?  Is it just okay for them cause they're all under 40? (except Farrell).







 
MatO - Thursday, April 07 2011 @ 11:38 PM EDT (#232345) #
Watched the replay of the wild pitch in slo-mo.  Looks like the ball went straight up in the air after JPA blocked it.
greenfrog - Friday, April 08 2011 @ 12:08 AM EDT (#232348) #
The Jays could easily be 6-0. When they lost to the Twins 4-3, the Jays had Nathan on the ropes in the bottom of the ninth, but Lind couldn't deliver with the bases loaded. Today's game, another one-run affair, also seemed winnable (based on others' comments - I didn't watch the game). All this without a proper DH and with Bautista, Escobar, Morrow and others missing time. Of course, the Jays have traditionally always been much stronger at home, and will face tougher competition than the A's and Twins, but there are lots of encouraging signs early on.
sam - Friday, April 08 2011 @ 12:55 AM EDT (#232350) #
Yes he was lazy. JP had a job there to do. Tieing run on third, top 8, no way any ball that can be blocked gets by you. He was lazy in the sense that he didn't get down to two knees and square the ball but simply stood up hoping to catch the ball on the bounce. I'm speaking as a baseball person and former catcher. For example Suzuki had a similar play earlier in the game and he slid over and got his chest in front of the ball. In baseball terms, that's laziness by Arencibia. Coaches will be saying the same thing.
hypobole - Friday, April 08 2011 @ 08:46 AM EDT (#232355) #

Hi, folks! This is my 1st post. The one play from yesterday that completely puzzled me was McDonald's bunt attempt after JPA led off the 6th with a double.  I'm not a fan of bunting, even less so in a man on 2nd, no outs situation. However, once JMac had 2 strikes on him, why wouldn't the bunt be taken off? Being down 0-2 to a pitcher who brought his A-game is a big hole, but trying to bunt with 2 strikes screams of total lack of confidence in JMac as a hitter. IMO, the only time this should be done is in interleague play when our pitchers are batting. Could someone convince me I'm wrong to feel this way?

Mike Green - Friday, April 08 2011 @ 09:32 AM EDT (#232360) #
That bunt sequence with Johnny MacD was interesting.  After JM squared to bunt and took strike one, Geren had the infield in an odd set-up for the 0-1.  Kouzmanoff was tight to the third base line  and in while shortstop Pennington was almost behind the second base bag holding the runner Arencibia close.  The gap between in the hole was larger than the Pacific Ocean, and I mentioned to the well-informed young man next to me that you could justify taking the bunt off.  Farrell was thinking along the same lines, but Johnny Mac laid off on a strike up and in, to set up the 0-2 count. 

Letting Johnny Mac swing away on the 0-1 and then bunt on the 0-2 was really a vote of confidence in his ability to make contact and put the ball in play.

The whole sequence brought to mind a variant of the Reds 1976 World Series strategy against Mickey Rivers with Pete Rose playing so far in that he could have fed Mickey with a spoon and daring Mickey to try to slap one by him. 

ayjackson - Friday, April 08 2011 @ 09:47 AM EDT (#232361) #

Yes he was lazy

I think you should go watch the replay a bit more.  He was a bit high due to getting over late (the pitch was inside but JP was set up outside), but he had his glove and chest protector in position to make the block, but the ball hit the heel of his glove (and maybe his shoulder) and took a wild bounce.  He certainly wasn't trying to just catch the ball.

Mike Green - Friday, April 08 2011 @ 09:55 AM EDT (#232363) #
That is a good description, AY.  It is probably easier for shorter catchers to move quickly over while remaining lower to the ground. 

Here is a good article on Tiny Tim, with the detail about Ricciardi's dad missing.

Mike Green - Friday, April 08 2011 @ 10:06 AM EDT (#232366) #
Let's try again.  The link to the Collins' article is here.
Dewey - Friday, April 08 2011 @ 10:09 AM EDT (#232367) #
I was listening to part of the game on radio yesterday; and Howarth and Ashby seemed to concur that MacDonald attempted the bunt on his own, embarassed about messing up on the earlier pitches.  Seemed plausible.  And, of course, ended with even more embarassment.
Gerry - Friday, April 08 2011 @ 10:17 AM EDT (#232368) #

I looked at the replay of the wild pitch last night and I didn't think that JPA was lazy but I did think he looked stiff.  That was something Wakamatsu was working with him on.   I think that as JPA gains experience he will learn that if he calls a change-up or curve in that situation he has to anticipate a wild pitch.  Right now his head is probably full of advice and to-do's, hopefully experience will help him. 

Even if JPA's technique was better he still might not have stopped a run scoring, the pitch bounced right behind the plate and took a big hop, even with better technique it could easily have hit his shoulder and gone several feet away from him, maybe even enough for a run to score.

hypobole - Friday, April 08 2011 @ 10:47 AM EDT (#232371) #
I was listening to part of the game on radio yesterday; and Howarth and Ashby seemed to concur that MacDonald attempted the bunt on his own, embarassed about messing up on the earlier pitches.  Seemed plausible.  And, of course, ended with even more embarassment.
 
Thank you!! I had thought Farrell called for the 2 strike bunt, which is about as high risk/low reward a play as there is.
92-93 - Friday, April 08 2011 @ 11:09 AM EDT (#232372) #
It's going to be a LONG season if Farrell continues to bunt in anything that resembles a bunt situation and removes his ace throwing a SO in the 8th at 93 pitches.
John Northey - Friday, April 08 2011 @ 12:47 PM EDT (#232375) #
Removing Romero seemed odd but I wonder if it was a message. He should've thrown to 3rd to get the lead runner but instead tossed to 1st on a bunt. Could Farrell be a Billy Martin type in that respect - if you don't do what you should do I will pull you from the game no matter what? With obvious exception for Escobar's issue running out every ball of course as then you'd be pulling him in his first AB every game (only [1/2] kidding).
Magpie - Friday, April 08 2011 @ 01:30 PM EDT (#232376) #
Removing Romero seemed odd but I wonder if it was a message.

I sure hope not - taking the sure out is not a bad play - and indeed Farrell himself said he had no problem with it. He said Frasor came in to face Crisp because of Frasor's record against Crisp. Which means that the new manager, like just about everyone who wears a uniform, believes in batter-pitcher matchups.
Mike Green - Friday, April 08 2011 @ 01:31 PM EDT (#232377) #
I sure hope that Romero's decision to take the out at first base wasn't behind his removal.  It is a split-second judgment, and you don't want to "discipline" a pitcher for that. 

One factor that (ironically) may have gone into Farrell's decision-making was that Romero did lead the league in wild pitches in 2010, and that was with Buck. Farrell may have felt that a tiring Romero was not likely to be as effective in the particular situation. 

Mike Green - Friday, April 08 2011 @ 01:36 PM EDT (#232378) #
Coke to Magpie. 

Prior to last night's at-bat, Coco Crisp was 2-10 with 2 walks, 2 strikeouts and a sacrifice fly against Frasor.  If a manager is going to attach any significant weight to that performance in the particular situation, he obviously has not thought very deeply about the meaning of sample size.  I hope that there was more to it than that.

Magpie - Friday, April 08 2011 @ 01:48 PM EDT (#232379) #
They all believe in it, because they all believe that in this aspect of the game, sample size is irrelevant. The sample will always be small. Sometimes the small sample is all there is, and sometimes the whole season comes down to one at bat, one pitch. The sample doesn't get any smaller....

The law of large numbers assures us that given enough at bats - say 500 or so - Roy Halladay would eventually start getting Johnny Damon out. Which is probably true, but it's utterly irrelevant. He's not going to get 500 chances to figure it out. As it is, he spent almost ten years trying, and Damon owned him until the day Doc changed leagues.
Magpie - Friday, April 08 2011 @ 01:58 PM EDT (#232380) #
However, in the particular case of Coco Crisp, if Farrell went to Frasor because of past history - which is indeed the reason he gave - then someone gave him the wrong stat sheet. The better choices would have been David Purcey or Romero himself. Frasor's a better option than Camp or Rauch, but it's the southpaws who have fun with Coco.

That said - bringing in Frasor should have worked. He needed a strikeout, he got a strikeout.
Mike Green - Friday, April 08 2011 @ 02:04 PM EDT (#232381) #
Yeah, but 2-10 with 2 walks and 2 strikeouts and a sac fly.  Crisp has usually been a leadoff hitter, and his main job is to get on base.  He had done a pretty good job of it against Frasor before last night.
uglyone - Friday, April 08 2011 @ 02:10 PM EDT (#232382) #
I disagree with the notion that JPA played that "lazily".

he moved his entire body in front of that ball, and had good glove position.

right now I'll chalk it up to a bad bounce - but if it happens more, then IMO that proabably indicates a bad glove on JPA...but not laziness.
Mike Green - Friday, April 08 2011 @ 02:19 PM EDT (#232383) #
Crisp has actually hit a little better against lefties in his career.

Anyways, I do not know whether I would have removed Romero in that situation.  He had struck out Crisp twice (and made him look bad); he was probably tiring a little bit.  And the base/out situation was very unfavourable for him- opposition hitters have hit .316/.370/.500 in 94 PAs including 8 SFs; his stuff is not ideally suited to the situation.  On balance, I can see why Farrell made the move...
bpoz - Friday, April 08 2011 @ 02:30 PM EDT (#232384) #
Small sample size & it is very early in the season, but I have a few likes & dislikes.

LIKES

OF arms of J Bautista & T Snider.

Sacrifice Fly situations... You want a hard hit ball in the air, so far Lind, Snider & JPA have done it a few times. So I like their chances whenever a SF situations arise. Its possible increased running will create more SF situations.

I like J Farrells managing.


DISLIKES

None really. IMO Escobar should have been put on the 7 day DL. If he comes off Monday then the team lost him for 4 days but we now have him 3 days earlier & he must be used at full capacity not as needed to be worth it. If he comes back Tuesday or later then IMO being shorthanded 5 or more games is giving up too much. Mastro or A Hech could have been called up easily since they are on the 40 man. Even if they were used very little IMO their development should not be hurt.
Kasi - Friday, April 08 2011 @ 05:02 PM EDT (#232391) #
Manny retired. Apparently he had another issue with "drug" problems.
scottt - Friday, April 08 2011 @ 05:26 PM EDT (#232392) #
"Major League Baseball recently notified Manny Ramirez of an issue under Major League Baseball's Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program," the statement said. "Rather than continue with the process under the Program, Ramirez has informed MLB that he is retiring as an active player. If Ramirez seeks reinstatement in the future, the process under the Drug Program will be completed."

Sadly, that probably makes the Rays a better team.

Oh, and the Yankee rotation looks more suspect than ever as Hughes keeps struggling.
sam - Saturday, April 09 2011 @ 05:39 AM EDT (#232408) #
Is it me or does Juan Rivera use a different bat every time up?
scottt - Saturday, April 09 2011 @ 07:35 AM EDT (#232409) #
I was comparing Rivera and V-Dub's lines before the game. Was pretty flush except that Wells has 10 ks and only one walk.
Then Rivera has himself 2 hits.

Drabek was struggling giving up 6 hits, 4 walks and 3 Ks, but unlike Romero, he was allowed to throw 103 pitches.

The win goes to Dotel who  is either the 7th inning guy or the guy you throw out there when there's more than one right hander coming up.

Purcey was used as a LOOGY. Camp set up and Rauch closed. So far so good.

This was the Angel's game to win and splitting the road trip after than would be a disappointment. On the other hand, there is little margin for error as the Jo-Jo/Weaver game and the King Felix/Listch game are probable losses.



ayjackson - Saturday, April 09 2011 @ 08:12 AM EDT (#232410) #

there is little margin for error as the Jo-Jo/Weaver game and the King Felix/Listch game are probable losses.

On that note, do we even have to play the game tonight?  Kazmir is awful.  So we're 2 and 2 on the road trip with two games in Seattle to decide it.

Chuck - Saturday, April 09 2011 @ 08:27 AM EDT (#232413) #

Sadly, that probably makes the Rays a better team.

It does get Damon out of the outfield.

 

Flex - Saturday, April 09 2011 @ 09:17 AM EDT (#232414) #
"Kazmir is awful."

Sadly the Jays won't get to hit against him. He's been DL'd and replaced for tonight's game by Matt Palmer.
greenfrog - Saturday, April 09 2011 @ 09:22 AM EDT (#232416) #
Heck of a game last night. I was impressed with Drabek's ability to battle and mix up his pitches (his change seemed to be quite effective). Very good job by the bullpen. And how about Lind and Nix, coming up with a couple of huge clutch hits against a tough RHP?

The team looks solid, but at the moment I think their Achilles heel will be the same as last year: a too-low OBP. Although they're off to a better start in this department, there are still too many hacktastic players in the lineup compared to Boston and NY. One way to address this would be to look for a solid DH-type, sort of the equivalent of Winfield (c. 1992) or Molitor (c. 1993) to deepen the lineup, get on base, and make the opposing starter work.
scottt - Saturday, April 09 2011 @ 09:32 AM EDT (#232418) #
You can get away with low OBP if you move runners and hit sac fly when needed. You just don't get all those 3 run homeruns.

Needless to say, the lineup was better with Escobar 2nd than with MacDonald 9th.

Flex - Saturday, April 09 2011 @ 10:28 AM EDT (#232422) #
Here's an interesting piece on Phil Hughes.
(Please copy and paste. It's worth the effort.)

http://bit.ly/fnzTlq

Apparently he's suffering from a mysterious 3-4 mph drop in his fastball velocity, while suffering no arm issues. This seems eerily similar to Brett Cecil's recent issues.

What does it all mean?
ayjackson - Saturday, April 09 2011 @ 06:12 PM EDT (#232442) #
Hughes` troubles seem more similar to Brandon Leagues of a few years back.  Cecil, is only down 1.5 mph on his fastball right now.  There may be some early calibration issues too, as I think Cecil`s throwing a cutter now, which isn`t showing up at Fangraphs.
Mike Green - Sunday, April 10 2011 @ 09:20 AM EDT (#232462) #
Despite the tough loss last night, one has to be happy with the state of the club. I am confident that Cecil will be better within a couple of starts, and the return of Morrow and Francisco won't hurt.

What is clear is that Juan Rivera must go. He would be a perfectly adequate bench player for a club which needed his particular talents. The Jays do not. He was described as having the range of an oil rig, and that is a fair description. He simply does not hit well enough to be a regular DH, and has not done so since his age 27 season five years ago. The Jays do not need a slow RHH on the bench. Can it be that hard to find a LHH who can post a 105-110 OPS+ or a .345 wOBA in a platoon DH role and act as a fifth outfielder? Podsednik would, if healthy, be a slight improvement, but you could probably do better than that.
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