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According to a press release from BlueJays.com, the Toronto Blue Jays have signed catcher Jeff Mathis to a two-year contract extension for $3 million dollars.

Jeff Mathis, scoring a run in Seattle July 31, will call Toronto home for the 2013 and 2014 seasons.



Jeff Mathis has thrown out baserunners at a 39 percent clip in 2012, best in the American League.


Jeff Mathis on JaysVision April 15.

The 29 year-old Mathis recorded hits in his first three games as a Blue Jay, including a two-hit game with a walk against Baltimore at the Dome April 15 and a home run against Tampa Bay three days later.  His best game with the stick came June 28 against his former club, the Los Angeles Angels, when he went 4-for-4 with a double, a homer and  three runs scored.  That was the start of an eight-game hitting streak for Mathis, who is currently serving as the number one catcher after J.P. Arencibia broke his hand late last month.  Mathis has also taken to the mound twice for the Blue Jays in 2012, pitching two innings with an ERA of 9.00.  He threw a shutout inning in Texas May 25 but gave up a pair of runs at home against Oakland exactly two months later.



In other catcher-related news, the Jays have signed catcher Yorvit Torrealba to a minor league deal.  The 33 year-old Venezuelan catcher was with the Texas Rangers the past two seasons.  The right-handed hitter batted .273 with 27 doubles, a triple, seven homers and 37 runs batted in last year for Texas but slumped to .236 with 8 doubles, three homers and 12 RBI.  The 12-year veteran, a career .258 hitter, has made stops in San Francisco along with stops in Seattle, Colorado and San Diego.
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TamRa - Tuesday, August 14 2012 @ 09:50 PM EDT (#262198) #
that would put fur active catchers on the Vegas roster so some domino moves should be expected.

On Mathis, I'm down with it. It sems reasonable value for a reserve veteran catcher with a good reputation, and it seems advisable to bridge the expected transition with a veteran back-up.



TamRa - Tuesday, August 14 2012 @ 09:54 PM EDT (#262199) #
okay Grif says he's expected to join the Jays....which makes me wonder what's with the minor league contract....and provokes the question of who gets booted from the 40 to make room for that.



Richard S.S. - Tuesday, August 14 2012 @ 10:09 PM EDT (#262200) #
1) Mathis became exactly what we need in a backup Catcher - someone who can be an effective full time Catcher if needed

2) Yorvit Torrealba will hit better with us, everybody else does.

3) JP Arencibia may be shut down for the season, and Gomes might not hit better soon enough.
Craig B - Tuesday, August 14 2012 @ 10:30 PM EDT (#262201) #
Mathis has been terrible since Arencibia's injury. Ineffective with the bat and the glove.

Torrealba is very welcome for the moment, as it should take some of the pressure off Mathis, who I fear is just not physically up to everyday play. Gomes just isn't catcher. Getting Torrealba in is a good idea.

As for the Mathis extension, if this means an attempt to get something of genuine quality for Arencibia from some other GM who isn't concerned much about defense... that would be a good idea. I don't like the idea of paying Mathis more than the minimum, but I can't imagine it hurts the ballclub that much.
John Northey - Tuesday, August 14 2012 @ 11:01 PM EDT (#262205) #
$1.5 a year really isn't much in todays MLB. $500k will soon be the minimum and triple the minimum won't break any budget. If every player was paid $1.5 you'd have a payroll of $37.5 mil or less than 1/2 of what it is now, less than 1/3rd of what it should be.

As Craig B says, it might be an indicator of JPA's being available, or Travis being available depending on the deal. An interesting winter will occur one hopes.
Oceanbound - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 06:03 AM EDT (#262209) #
$1.5m isn't much but it's a bit weird that a bench player is getting a multi-year extension. This is the sort of player that you can pick up for nothing.
Magpie - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 08:11 AM EDT (#262211) #
Yet again, his team's pitchers have a significantly better ERA with Mathis (4.30) than with the other guy (4.70). No doubt it's a fluke, but this fluke has been running for six straight years.
Mike Green - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 08:49 AM EDT (#262212) #
The Mathis move works two ways.  If d'Arnaud does not make a good recovery, you have a decent second catcher, and if he does, you really ought to trade one of JPA or d'Arnaud.  Anthopoulos' comments about d'Arnaud possibly being a DH next year made sense to me in the context of an uncertain recovery from the knee injury.
Ryan Day - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 10:00 AM EDT (#262213) #
As Gerry says in the other thread, what AA says is not necessarily what AA will do. He's not going to come out and say "We're hoping to replace JP as catcher next year."

I think d'Arnaud is the most likely to be moved. If AA is going to try and acquire a significant starter via trade, everyone is going to be asking for d'Arnaud.

Then again, here's a theory: Is the talk of playing d'Arnaud at DH a way of lowering his perceived value? Is AA hinting that d'Arnaud isn't physically up to the task of catching every day? He's not the catching prospect you're looking for?
Mike Green - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 10:08 AM EDT (#262214) #
My point is that the decision about what to do is unlikely to be made until the late fall or early winter, by which time the club will have much more information on d'Arnaud's recovery.  It is not so much a question of being evasive, as of being genuinely uncertain, in my view. 
Mike D - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 10:37 AM EDT (#262218) #

Yet again, his team's pitchers have a significantly better ERA with Mathis (4.30) than with the other guy (4.70).  No doubt it's a fluke, but this fluke has been running for six straight years.

Is it possible that Mathis's superiority in controlling the running game accounts for this entire difference?  Maybe even more than this entire difference?

bpoz - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 10:52 AM EDT (#262219) #
I heard AA say that he would rather have too many good players than not enough regarding the catchers.

That sounds sensible. Does it mean that you have to trade your excess good players. Dave Collins/ George Bell. Alfredo Griffen/Tony Fernandez. Reed Johnson/Shannon Stewart. Fred McGriff/Cecil Fielder?

Chuck - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 11:10 AM EDT (#262220) #

I heard AA say that he would rather have too many good players than not enough regarding the catchers.

Setting aside the semantic issue of whether Mathis and Torrealba qualify as good players, presumably this remark was made with the understanding that catchers are highly prone to injury and replacements are necessary to have on hand.

Does it mean that you have to trade your excess good players.

Excess good players inevitably get traded to patch problems in other areas. It's the rare team that is so good that it can afford to carry high caliber players whose sole role is to serve as a backup.

Are there any backups in the majors who need to be "freed" and given starting jobs? I'm not saying that there aren't any, but no names spring to mind.

Ryan Day - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 11:10 AM EDT (#262221) #
It doesn't look like Mathis is particularly superior in controlling the running game: He's caught 39% of base stealers, Arencibia's caught 35%. It's not a massive difference.
Alex Obal - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 11:39 AM EDT (#262223) #
Unanswerable Thought Experiment: Suppose catcher A, relative to catcher B, gives pitchers an extra 0.2 inches of strike zone in each direction. How many runs will this save a typical pitching staff over the course of a season?
Chuck - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 11:46 AM EDT (#262224) #

Is it possible that Mathis's superiority in controlling the running game accounts for this entire difference?  Maybe even more than this entire difference?

If we walk through this mathematically, it would seem difficult to ascribe a 0.4 runs/game saving entirely to Matthis, let alone specifically to his arm (and not his pitch blocking, pitch framing, pitch calling, etc.)

162 games x 0.4 runs = 64 runs = 6 wins

If Matthis's true ability were such that he alone saved 0.4 runs per game as compared to Arencibia, that would mean that his defense would be worth 6 wins per year more than Arencibia's (on a 162-game basis). That 6 wins is a huge gap right there, and far more than seems reasonable on its face. And to take this one step further and attribute the entirety of that gap to Matthis' arm alone, well, that seems even more implausible.

Fangraphs, thus far, has Yadier Molina as the best defensive catcher (10 DRS, defensive runs saved) and a few tied for worst at -8 (including Mauer!). That spread is 18 runs, or about 2 wins. Prorate this for a whole season and the spread from best to worst is about 3 wins. That 3-win spread is half the theoretical 6-win spread between Arencibia and Matthis, further casting doubt on the accuracy of that 6-win gap.

Looking at the SB/CS figures, taken from Fangraphs, we see:
Arencibia  36-19 or 0.50-0.27 per 9 innings
Matthis     22-14 or 0.55-0.35 per 9 innings

Per 9 innings then, Matthis yields 0.05 more stolen bases but logs 0.08 more caught stealings. Applying linear weights of 0.2 for SB and -0.44 for CS, we get:
(0.05 x 0.2) + (0.08 x -0.44) = -0.025. So per 9 innings, Matthis' arm saves the team 0.025 runs as compared to Arencibia. That's one run every 40 games. Or 4 runs per season. Or less than half a win per season.


 

Chuck - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 11:48 AM EDT (#262225) #
Unanswerable Thought Experiment: Suppose catcher A, relative to catcher B, gives pitchers an extra 0.2 inches of strike zone in each direction. How many runs will this save a typical pitching staff over the course of a season?

Isn't this why the Rays signed Molina? The new market inefficiency is catcher framing ability!
Mike Green - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 11:59 AM EDT (#262228) #
Arencibia has been fine at controlling the running game, but not so good at blocking pitches and receiving. 

He had caught all of Romero's starts until the Oakland disaster (when Arencibia was injured).  I hypothesized that having Mathis catch him might help turn things around for Romero.  So far, it seems to have done so.  Romero has had better control of the strike zone, throwing 60% strikes each game with a decent whiff percentage each game.  It could be random, a function of increased confidence for Romero because Mathis blocks better, better pitch selection, better framing or a whole other set of factors.  In past years, Arencibia has been measurably a poor framer, and subjectively that continues to be the case. 

Alex Obal - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 12:01 PM EDT (#262229) #
Sure seems like it. If you accept that Molina (Mathis?) is a good pitch framer, investing in him becomes a gamble on the value of the extra strike zone size, which is what I'm curious about. This whole game revolves around getting ahead in the count. Say you turn 10 first-pitch balls into strikes. How big a deal is that? If you estimate the effect based on leaguewide splits, does that give you results that square with reality?
Ryan Day - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 12:17 PM EDT (#262231) #
Arencibia caught almost all of Romero's starts in 2011, though, and Romero had his best season ever. I don't see much evidence of Arencibia being a worse receiver this year - he's allowed a few more passed balls, but dramatically cut down the number of wild pitches.
John Northey - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 01:31 PM EDT (#262236) #
Just for fun I checked FanGraphs for the Jays cumulative stats for the AA era (2010/2012).

OPS leaders (not counting pitchers): Bautista 994, Sierra 851, Wells 847, Encarnacion 844, Buck 802, Lawrie 800
ERA leaders (20+ IP): Oliver 1.27, Hill 2.61, Downs 2.64, Janssen 2.86, Gregg 3.51 (!)

WAR pitchers: Morrow 8.8, Romero 7.6, Marcum 3.6, Cecil 2.9, Janssen 2.4, Villanueva 2.1
WAR hitters: Bautista 18.3, Escobar 6.9, Encarnacion 6.6, Lawrie 5.4, Wells 3.8, Buck 2.8

Interesting to see the giant gaps there.  Top 4 pitchers good ERA's then over 1/2 a run spread to #5.  Sierra being #2 for OPS in the AA era is interesting and suggests he will get more rope than we might expect.

Kind of scary too - Bautista, Morrow, Romero, Escobar, Encarnacion, Lawrie then 'gulp' for value.

Hodgie - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 01:44 PM EDT (#262237) #
Alex, if you haven't already read Mike Fast's work on pitch framing it is well worth the read here. In it is a link to Dan Turkenkopf's look at the effects of the extra strike (found here).
Alex Obal - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 02:07 PM EDT (#262239) #
Thanks.
Richard S.S. - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 03:31 PM EDT (#262245) #
Mathis is having a very good year, especially for him. Anyone who thinks not is a harsh evaluator or needs glasses. Plus, he can be your #1 Catcher, if needed, for as long as needed. I think that's also why Torrealba was picked up. Typical move for A.A., value, having an off year, but still value.

Don't read anything into these moves, they are just what they are.
Magpie - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 03:37 PM EDT (#262247) #
Arencibia caught almost all of Romero's starts in 2011,

No "almost" about it. Arencibia caught every inning Romero pitched in 2011. He was doing the same thing this year until his injury.
Ryan Day - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 03:48 PM EDT (#262248) #
I was pretty sure he had, I just couldn't back it up. Are these things recorded somewhere?
Magpie - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 06:05 PM EDT (#262256) #
Baseball-reference.com has detailed splits for individual pitchers, including work with different catchers. By season and career.

Feli Hernandez, ladies and gentlemen!
greenfrog - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 06:33 PM EDT (#262259) #
Marvellous. What a pitcher.
Mike Forbes - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 07:36 PM EDT (#262265) #
Good to see Edwin almost seperate his shoulder out in left. Just what the team needs!
Ryan Day - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 09:41 PM EDT (#262271) #
It does not appear that Jeff Mathis is the cure for what ails Ricky after all.
Alex Obal - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 09:47 PM EDT (#262272) #
You should've seen the 12-spot he gave up in an alternate universe...
Ryan Day - Wednesday, August 15 2012 @ 10:13 PM EDT (#262273) #
Sure, but the Jays still won that game 15-14, thanks to home runs from all the people that aren't injured in that universe.

I think it is a better place.
greenfrog - Thursday, August 16 2012 @ 11:46 AM EDT (#262286) #
It sounds as though Villanueva is open to signing a deal with Toronto before he hits free agency. As many of us surmised, though, he wants to start. Interesting situation (maybe a good poll question - "should the Jays commit to Villanueva as a starting pitcher and offer him a multiyear deal?").

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/2012/08/15/toronto_blue_jays_carlos_villanueva_decision/
China fan - Thursday, August 16 2012 @ 12:40 PM EDT (#262299) #
The Villanueva question is a good one. He's been successful this year, but the Jays have made it clear that they see him as a maximum-six-innings type of starter, which can be a burden on the bullpen. Villanueva says he would be open to being a swingman on the Jays next season, but -- if he continues to do well in the rotation -- he will be seeking a starter-type contract, which is understandable. I think a compromise is possible: a multi-year contract for Villanueva, but at something of a discount, since he doesn't seem capable of going consistently past six innings. He's still a valuable guy to have on the team. If the Jays acquire enough good starters in the off-season, he's still the ideal swingman, for long-relief in the bullpen and occasional spot starts and a great backup for the rotation. And since injuries are inevitable, he'll probably get 10 to 15 starts a year, maybe more. For someone in that role, a multi-year contract is worthwhile.
ayjackson - Thursday, August 16 2012 @ 12:42 PM EDT (#262300) #

I think if you could do a lot worse than pencilling-in Villanueva into the #5 spot of the rotation for the next three years.

If you went with him and Alvarez at the back of the rotation, you'd just need to add someone like Annibal Sanchez to Morrow and Romero at the top of the rotation to patch something together.

greenfrog - Thursday, August 16 2012 @ 12:48 PM EDT (#262301) #
It's obvious after this year and last that the Jays need starting pitching depth. The team appears to now have a promising bullpen and could be quite strong through innings 7, 8, 9. Even if V is viewed as a 6- or (at best) 7-inning SP, he can still be a major contributor. Sign him, call him your #5 or #6, and move on in your search for front-rotation candidates. No need to look a gift horse in the mouth - the guy wants to be here and is willing to sign now.

If the Jays don't sign him, it might mean that the team doesn't really believe in him as more than a long reliever and spot starter. Or it might mean that Rogers is really cheap (a theme that I suspect will be revisited this off-season).
Chuck - Thursday, August 16 2012 @ 01:49 PM EDT (#262318) #
If AA knew that Villanueva could give him 30 6-inning starts, I'm sure he'd gladly pay for it. I don't see the 6 as being the issue, however, I see the 30.
Richard S.S. - Thursday, August 16 2012 @ 01:53 PM EDT (#262319) #

Carlos Villanueva can be signed for Starter money over 3-5 years (Options).  He should be told he's a swing-man, basically the #6 Starter, in the pen.  

With Morrow, Romero and the one or two New Acquisition(s) being guaranteed Roster Spots, everyone else will have to fight hard to earn the last one or two spot(s) in the Rotation. 

With Sergio Santos (2013 spring training), Casey Janssen, Brad Lincoln, Steve Delabar as given in the Bullpen.  With Darren Oliver, deciding on retirement, Toronto will pick up his option if he will play.  The Jays are trying to re-sign Brandon Lyon ,if possible.  So chances are Toronto has one or two spots open in the bullpen.

With J.A. Happ, Henderson Alvarez and Carlos Villanueva competing for as few as two Pitching openings, this could get interesting.  Trades are still possible for Alvarez and/or Villanueva, if the deal is right. 

China fan - Thursday, August 16 2012 @ 02:05 PM EDT (#262321) #
"....I don't see the 6 as being the issue, however, I see the 30...."

I agree. And it's another reason why Villanueva should be available at a discount. He hasn't proven that he can pitch a full season, and that depresses his free-agent value. He knows that. So the Jays should sign him now, while he's still a bargain. I suspect they're already working on it.

A good piece by Shi Davidi predicted that the Jays will try to sign Villanueva and Lyon, while letting Jason Frasor and Kelly Johnson go. I can live with that.

Link to the Davidi story:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/2012/08/15/toronto_blue_jays_carlos_villanueva_decision/
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