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And so it begins....

Boston (89-73) vs New York (94-68)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ancient rivals, and all that. Most of us remember the 2003-2004 ALCS. Old folks even remember the 1978 playoff. That was then. Now? 

The Yankees had their best month of the season in September and finished the season on a heater, winning 11 of their last 12. They were, in so many ways, the classic bully. It's even in the way they win. Their success is built around whacking the baseball over the fence, and beating the crap out of the weaker teams. They abused the WHite Sox and the Orioles, this past week and all year long (15-5). They went just 11-21 against Toronto, Boston, and Detroit. And of course all the pressure is on them - Yankees fans aren't happy with 94 wins. They regard that as their due. It's championship or bust, always. So Aaron Judge finds himself in a situation much like Barry Bonds around 2002. Like Bonds, Judge is the best hitter in the game - but he has now played 58 post-season games, and has hit just .205/.318/.450 in 262 PApps. (Bonds had hit .196/.319/.299 in 27 post-season games through 2000.) Bonds broke out in the 2002 post-season, and the Law of Large Numbers suggest that sooner or later Judge will have his October moment as well. But the clock is ticking, and Garrett Crochet is a tough place for it to begin.

The Red Sox traded away their best hitter midway through the season - at the time, they were in fourth place with a 37-36 record. It sure looked like they were punting on 2025. But here they are, playing with the house's money. Even without Rafael Devers for half the season they still finished third in the league in Runs Scored. Their offense resembles Toronto's in many ways. They hit some HRs, but not a whole lot - what they do is get lots of hits and put plenty of people on base. The starting pitching looks awfully questionable after Crochet and Bello, what with Lucas Giolito's staus up in the air - but that doesn't matter much in a best-of-three. And they may have the best bullpen in the American League.

Tue 30 Sep - Crochet (18-5, 2.59) vs Fried (19-5, 2.86)
Wed 1 Oct - Bello (11-9, 3.35) vs Rodon (18-9, 3.09)

Detroit (87-75) vs Cleveland (88-74)

What are the Cleveland Guardians even doing here? A few days before the All-Star Break, they were 15.5 games back of Detroit, with an ugly 40-48 record. They went on a hot streak, winning 14 of 20 to close out July - but that only got them a few games closer to the Tigers, and then two of their pitchers, one of whom was ace closer Emmanuel Clase, went on the restricted list. SO they punted, trading away their rehabbing former Cy Young winning ace, and went into September just one game over .500 and with a double digit deficit in the division. But here they are.

The Guardians did got very hot - 20-7 qualifies - in September. And the Tigers did get very cold (7-17, yikes.) But still... what are they even doing here? The Guardians don't have a bad offense for a playoff team - they have a bad offense for any kind of baseball team, period. There are 15 AL teams - the Guardians ranked 15th in OnBase, Slugging, and (naturally) Runs Scored. Did they do anything well? Okay, they did hit into fewer double plays than any team in the league. Whoop-dee-dam-doo. When you never have anyone on base....

Detroit survived their terrible July slump (losing 12 of 13) mainly because they'd built up such a huge lead in the division that there was only so much harm two bad weeks could inflict. They still had a comfortable lead in the division, and they appeared to have righted the ship, going 20-12 over the next six weeks. But then in mid-September, they had another of their Mysterious Spells, losing 11 of 12 - five of them to the pursuing Guardians, and quite unexpectedly found themselves fighting for their post-season lives. They blew the division, but were spared the complete humiliation of missing the playoffs altogether. And they do get to send Tarik Skubal against the most punchless offense in the whole American League.

Tue 30 Sep - Skubal (13-6, 2.21) vs Williams (12-5, 3.06)
Wed 1 Oct - TBA vs Bibee (12-11, 4.24)


San Diego (90-72) vs Chicago (92-70)

The Padres didn't score many runs this season. They have a lot of very good hitters, but none of them had a particularly impressive season. No one was actually bad - everyone was just okay. Or pretty good. It was enough to win 90 games, because no NL team gave up fewer runs. Obviously, Petco Park has a whole lot to do with both of these factors - Petco and T-Mobile in Seattle are two of the best pitcher's parks in the game, and they're definitely the toughest places to hit in this post-season. Neither San Diego's nor Seattle's pitching is anywhere near as good as the raw numbers might suggest.

The Cubs are a well balanced outfit, one of the best teams in the NL at both scoring runs and preventing the other fellow from scoring - they're just not quite as good at these things are their division rivals in Milwaukee, which is why they have to play today. And their best pitcher, rookie phenom Cade Horton, is unavailable with a rib fracture. Kyle Tucker returned to the lineup for the final weekend - he has so far been limited to DH duty, which forces Seiya Suzuki into the outfield.

Tue 30 Sep - Pivetta (13-5, 2.87) vs Boyd (14-8, 3.21)
Wed 1 Oct - Cease (8-12, 4.55) vs TBA


Cincinnati (83-79( vs Los Angeles (93-69)

If we know one thing in life, we know this - Rob Manfred and 30 franchise owners are rooting desperately for the Dodgers to blow everyone away this post-season. If you're planning on arguing that the sport needs a salary cap, you don't need teams like Milwaukee and Cleveland in the post-season - you need the big spending bullies wreaking havoc on their poor, outgunned foes. And the Mets have already let the side down in ignominious fashion. This seems to me a good enough reason to cheer for the Reds. It would be so goddam funny to see the mighty Dodgers dismissed as quickly as possible, even if it means that Shohei Ohtani never does get to pitch in the post-season and Clayton Kershaw's brilliant career ends with him watching from the sidelines, not even needed on the active roster for this tiresome formality of a preliminary round.

Make it happen, men of Ohio!

Tue 30 Sep - Greene (7-4, 2.76) vs Snell (5-4, 2.35)
Wed 1 Oct - Littell (2-0, 4.39) vs Yamamoto (12-8, 2.49)

The Wild Card Round | 195 comments | Create New Account
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92-93 - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 01:05 PM EDT (#469296) #
Are there better odds on the board than Ernie Clement for World Series MVP at 400:1?
Katie - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 01:30 PM EDT (#469297) #
My predictions, which I'm sure will be proven wrong by Thursday, if not Wednesday.

BOS v. NYY: NYY
DET v. CLE: DET

DET v. SEA: SEA
NYY v. TOR: NYY

NYY v. SEA: SEA

CIN v. LAD: LAD
SDP v. CHC: SDP

LAD v. PHI: PHI
SDP v. MIL: SDP

SDP v. PHI: PHI

SEA v. PHI: PHI
Katie - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 01:34 PM EDT (#469298) #
Trey Yesavage is going to make a postseason appearance with three MLB games played, but he will likely be one-upped by Chase DeLauter, who figures to make his MLB debut for the Guardians during the Wild Card series.
Eephus - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 02:04 PM EDT (#469299) #
With the Guardians so red hot going into the postseason yet being such an objectively unimpressive squad on paper, this will be an interesting test to see if entering the playoffs on a heater really is all that beneficial. I do wonder if the Yankees are in for a serious reality check after their pillow soft schedule to finish September (Oh, THIS is what it’s like to play good teams?). We shall see.

Predictions!

NYY over BOS (3)
DET over CLE (3)
SD over CHC (2)
CIN over LAD (3) — why not? It would be so funny, plus the top of the Reds rotation is legit.
92-93 - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 02:21 PM EDT (#469301) #
I’ll roll with DET, CHC, BOS, and LAD.
BlueMonday - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 02:42 PM EDT (#469303) #
I'm going for Cleveland, Canada's team for the wild card round. Even without Josh Naylor, they have brother Bo, and high leverage relievers Cade Smith and Erik Sabrowski. Last year was the record year with 4 canucks on their roster.
No Canadians in the NYY-Boston series, Abraham Toro spent some time with Boston this year but his bat went silent.
Padres send Nick Pivetta to the mound for game 1, but the Cubbies have 1.5 Canadians - Mike Siroka, and Jameson Taillon (Canadian parents and has citizenship). Owen Caissie spent some time with the big club but didn't make the postseason roster.
For the Dodgers and Reds, there's just Freddie (honourary Canadian), and the ghost of Joey.
I'll update in ALDS/NLDS rounds as the bye teams are well represented. Maybe by then I'll be able to say whether this is a record year for Canadians in the postseason.
Eephus - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 03:01 PM EDT (#469307) #
The Tigers don’t scare me as much as most of the other AL teams but Skubal is absurd. Good luck.
Jonny German - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 03:02 PM EDT (#469308) #
My card says DET, CHC, NYY, LAD.
greenfrog - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 03:13 PM EDT (#469309) #
Detroit is already winning 2-1 in the eighth inning of game 1, so maybe a bit late to predict the outcome of that series!
greenfrog - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 03:31 PM EDT (#469312) #
Skubal today:

7.2 IP 3 H 1 R 1 ER 3 BB 14 K (107 pitches)

Yeesh. He’s really good.
greenfrog - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 03:44 PM EDT (#469313) #
Cleveland had Ramirez on third base in the ninth with none out (courtesy of a Baez throwing error), but they couldn’t score the runner and Detroit won 2-1.
StephenT - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 04:03 PM EDT (#469316) #
fyi: The press conferences with the managers are being shown for the Cleveland game now on MLB Network (Channel 538 on Rogers Xfinity TV).
Jonny German - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 04:32 PM EDT (#469320) #
Detroit is already winning 2-1 in the eighth inning of game 1, so maybe a bit late to predict the outcome of that series!

Fair. I did make my picks before the games started, and they’re purely for my own entertainment.

Cleveland is an impressively bad offensive team. If they still had Myles Straw he’d probably be their 2 hitter against lefties.
John Northey - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 05:54 PM EDT (#469324) #
Anyone going to the intersquad games at the dome? Just $10 each, if I lived in Toronto, or was still in Mississauga (lived there 2000-2004 right next to a GO station, their parking lot was my visitor lot) I'd be going, but the 2 hour+ drive from London would be a nightmare.
John Northey - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 05:57 PM EDT (#469325) #
So quickly the Cubs & Tigers are 1 game away from round 2, while Cleveland and the Padres are 1 game away from elimination. NYY/Boston about to start (just hoping for a tough 3 game series that drains both pitching staffs completely). A few hours until Dodgers vs Reds (c'mon Reds!).
John Northey - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 06:02 PM EDT (#469326) #
Kind of surprised Cleveland only had 26k show up for that game (had 36k for Friday and Saturday's games). Guess many didn't want to skip work and pay through the nose for it. Cubs stuffed 39,114 in Wrigley (peaked at 42k in March somehow - didn't think there were that many seats there).
mathesond - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 06:14 PM EDT (#469327) #
There may not be 42K seats at Wrigley, but they also have standing room tickets...
greenfrog - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 07:09 PM EDT (#469328) #
Low-scoring games so far. We’ll see if that trend holds (could have something to do with #1 starters like Skubal, Crochet and Fried pitching today).
greenfrog - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 07:23 PM EDT (#469329) #
Count me among those who would prefer to face NYY over Boston, especially with Anthony on the IL. I know Schlittler struggled in a start against Toronto, but he’s better than that. He gives them an underrated SP behind Fried and Rodon. And the Yankees have a good top of the order against RHP in Grisham, Rice, Judge, Bellinger, Stanton.

Both teams are beatable, though (in my opinion).
greenfrog - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 07:27 PM EDT (#469330) #
I mean — prefer to face Boston over NYY
uglyone - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 08:04 PM EDT (#469332) #
red sox!
scottt - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 08:09 PM EDT (#469333) #
So predictable.
uglyone - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 08:35 PM EDT (#469334) #
this is the most pitches Crochet has thrown all year.

keep him in!
Eephus - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 08:39 PM EDT (#469335) #
I don’t really have a preference between facing the Red Sox or Yankees. New York feels like the team deeper in star talent but also with the more obvious flaws (unpredictable bullpen, defence and baserunning). I’d much rather play a postseason game or two in Fenway than the cheap home run paradise that is New Yankee Stadium, but also potentially facing Crochet twice scares the crap outta me.
John Northey - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 08:44 PM EDT (#469336) #
Argh. Hate the Yankees but I also really, really hate Chapman (wife beater who shouldn't be allowed in the game imo). So whoever loses it'll be good, but sadly someone I don't want to do well will.
scottt - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 08:53 PM EDT (#469337) #
Boston has speedy guys which can be annoying.
Kirk has not thrown well lately and pitchers don't hold runners well.
uglyone - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 08:57 PM EDT (#469338) #
both elite closers looking shaky.
uglyone - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 09:06 PM EDT (#469339) #
lol chapman


oh wait he didn't even score there that was an easy hit what are you doing.
Glevin - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 09:10 PM EDT (#469340) #
So happy we aren't involved in this series. Can just watch and enjoy.
uglyone - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 09:12 PM EDT (#469341) #
the wisdom says don't pinch hit for Goldschmidt cuz he's not the tying run but that's dumb. the 37yr old just clogged up the bases badly. better baserunner there and the yanks might have tied it already.
scottt - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 09:17 PM EDT (#469342) #
Best possible outcome or close.
Now, Yankees have to tie tomorrow or some fans will be pissed.
I sure hope it goes to game 3.
dalimon5 - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 09:23 PM EDT (#469343) #
Jesus the elite starting pitching on display is impressive. I hope Gausman and Bieber have some extra adrenaline to take it up a notch this weekend.
greenfrog - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 09:27 PM EDT (#469344) #
Agreed that Crochet / Whitlock / Chapman twice in a five-game series would be daunting.

Maybe Crochet will get tired during the postseason? He has really ramped up his innings over the last couple of years and he threw 117 pitches tonight. Probably wishful thinking — he was brilliant tonight — but you never know.

I hope Bo’s knee is starting to feel better. Sure would be nice to have a healthy Bichette at the plate with the game on the line against some of these ace starters and relievers.
greenfrog - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 09:42 PM EDT (#469345) #
<i>So happy we aren't involved in this series. Can just watch and enjoy</i><br><br>
Concur. After going through what we did in 2022 and 2023, "advance directly to ALDS" is a refreshing change.
greenfrog - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 09:58 PM EDT (#469346) #
Home runs for Ohtani, Teo and Edman. 5-0 Dodgers in the third inning.
John Northey - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 10:31 PM EDT (#469347) #
Well, Crochet's innings this year pre-playoffs was at 205 1/3 and he just threw 7 2/3 more so up to 213 IP. Lifetime before this he was at 222 IP (4 seasons + 2022 missed due to injury + 3 IP in playoffs for ChiSox, yes, they used to make the playoffs). Just 12 1/3 IP in the minors lifetime, plus 132 IP in college over 3 seasons. So yeah, he is really, really, really into uncharted territory for his arm now. I'm kind of surprised the Red Sox left him in so long but I guess they felt it was win or go home almost in game 1 so push as far as you can and figure out tomorrow when it comes.

It'll be interesting to see if Schneider also adjusts his managing style. Gaston did (pinch hitting, etc.)
dalimon5 - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 10:46 PM EDT (#469348) #
I heard Bo Bichette was on the field yesterday celebrating with a visible limp.
Glevin - Tuesday, September 30 2025 @ 11:37 PM EDT (#469349) #
I don't see Bo being back by this weekend. He's improving but still seems a fair ways off. Like, he isn't really doing much yet (running, fielding, hitting).
scottt - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 05:07 AM EDT (#469351) #
Bo is hitting off a tee, but I don't think he's clear to run.
scottt - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 05:10 AM EDT (#469352) #
Weaver was as good as Bass in 22.
Bednar gave up the insurance run.

If New York stays home, I will miss the Yankees bullpen.
92-93 - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 07:22 AM EDT (#469353) #
I thought Goldschmidt ran the bases well on a ball that looked like it could be caught right off the bat. I have no idea why the LF didn't even attempt to catch it.
greenfrog - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 07:51 AM EDT (#469354) #
This morning Davidi guessed that Bo would not be ready for the ALDS (not enough time to ramp up).
Jonny German - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 08:57 AM EDT (#469355) #
Boston winning yesterday is a very good result, both because they'd be a weaker opponent for the ALDS and because it increases the chances of the wild card going the full 3 games.

I was trying to figure out who the Red Sox would start Saturday if they won the wild card in 3. Went to the depth chart page on fangraphs... it says their starters are 1. Crochet and 2. Bello. End of list! LOL. My best guess is they'd open with a bullpen day, then Crochet-Bello-Early-Crochet. 

The Yankees would be in much better shape with Gil-Fried-Rodon-Schlittler-Fried.
Cracka - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 09:41 AM EDT (#469356) #
Kyle Harrison would be the likely candidate as the Red Sox 4th starter - he's been stretched out to 90 pitches. Payton Tolle is another, but he's been a one-inning guy for the last few weeks. Both are LHP, which makes it possible that we'd face 4 LH starters in a 5-game series against the BoSox. That would make for some interesting starting lineup choices and might even impact roster construction (e.g., Ty France?).
scottt - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 10:35 AM EDT (#469357) #
The winning run was in scoring position because Judge cannot make a good throw.

Boston brought their best 3 pitchers to Toronto last week. That was it for Giolito.
Could be a lot worse.
uglyone - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 10:42 AM EDT (#469358) #
so jomboy keeps saying that in this format the team that has won the first game of these WC series has won the series 11 of 12 times.
scottt - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 11:22 AM EDT (#469359) #
Don't look at the Jays record.
It will only hurt.
uglyone - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 11:33 AM EDT (#469360) #
Arden Zwelling
@ArdenZwelling
Date and times for first two games of Blue Jays ALDS at Rogers Centre:

If NYY advance...
Gm 1 — Oct 4, 4:08pm
Gm 2 — Oct 5, 4:08pm

If BOS advance...
Gm 1 — Oct 4, 1:08pm
Gm 2 — Oct 5, 4:08pm
John Northey - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 12:24 PM EDT (#469361) #
Kind of surprised if it is vs the Yankees that it isn't at 7 PM. Probably Seattle and LA (or SD) games for those times if LA and/or SD are in round 2.
scottt - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 12:45 PM EDT (#469362) #
Earlier time is great if wild card goes 2-1.
uglyone - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 12:52 PM EDT (#469363) #
Ben Nicholson-Smith
@bnicholsonsmith

Blue Jays monitoring Bo Bichette's progress daily per GM Ross Atkins.

“Every day has gotten better for him … he’s doing everything possible to be ready as soon as possible"



en Nicholson-Smith
@bnicholsonsmith

John Schneider adds that Bichette is not running yet, but “hopefully starting that soon”
scottt - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 01:03 PM EDT (#469364) #
Might make sense to start him as a pinch hitter, rather than the DH. Only needs to jog to first and only once.

If he gets on base, there will be pick off throws.
uglyone - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 01:37 PM EDT (#469365) #
Ben Nicholson-Smith
@bnicholsonsmith

Follow-up for Jose Berrios showed no structural damage in elbow, but he won't be a factor in ALDS as he's still not throwing. Possible he's ready later in the playoffs.

Chris Bassitt, meanwhile, progressing well and should be available for ALDS.
uglyone - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 01:54 PM EDT (#469366) #
ah well there it is - vladdy just let the truth slip out:


Keegan Matheson
@KeeganMatheson

Asked Vladimir Guerrero Jr. about Bo Bichette…

“We miss him. He knows we miss him. This is God’s plan. Whatever God has for us, we’ve got to take. I hope we win this series and he comes back for the next one.” #BlueJays
Michael - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 02:09 PM EDT (#469367) #
Yeah, if he's not running today then there is basically no way he's ready for the start of the division series. Maybe if he starts running today he might be ready mid series, but I don't think that you'd put him on the roster if you are not sure if he'll play any of it and best case is he's ready to PH or DH or something in the second half of the series.
uglyone - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 02:13 PM EDT (#469368) #

Ben Nicholson-Smith
@bnicholsonsmith

Asked about Anthony Santander, John Schneider said: "Continue to see how he feels the next couple days, but yeah, I can certainly envision him on the (ALDS) roster, and use him like we do everyone – kind of as we see fit."
James W - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 02:40 PM EDT (#469369) #
so jomboy keeps saying that in this format the team that has won the first game of these WC series has won the series 11 of 12 times.

I do not believe Mr. O'Brien is correct. If we ignore 2020, this format began in 2022. There have been 10 2-0 sweeps. The other two series were Mets-Padres in 2022 where the Padres won games 1 and 3, and Mets-Brewers in 2024 where the Mets won games 1 and 3. So the winner of game 1 has won the series 12 of 12 times.
ISLAND BOY - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 02:48 PM EDT (#469370) #
Wow, this means the Yankees could be cooked? Of course, I don't like Boston either but someone has to win.
John Northey - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 02:50 PM EDT (#469371) #
Nah, Boston/NYY play game 3 for 60 innings and still are tied as players collapse on the field from exhaustion. League needs to declare both lost - a mutual forfeit and Jays automatically go to the ALCS. :)
uglyone - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 03:02 PM EDT (#469372) #
thanks JamesW!

BBox wins again!
James W - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 03:10 PM EDT (#469373) #
In 2020, there were 6 sweeps in the first round, and 2 series that went 2-1. Both were comebacks from a 0-1 deficit.

So if we include 2020, game 1 winners are 18-2 in 3-game series with 16 sweeps.
John Northey - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 03:14 PM EDT (#469374) #
You could add in the 3 game playoff (counted as regular season for some reason) in 1962 between the Dodgers & Giants. Giants won game 1, Dodgers game 2, Giants game 3. So a full 3 games with the winner of game 1 winning it in the end.
James W - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 04:05 PM EDT (#469375) #
Tiebreaking games have always counted as regular season games.
uglyone - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 04:41 PM EDT (#469376) #

Ben Nicholson-Smith
@bnicholsonsmith

A couple notes from Jays vs. Jays intra-squad game:
• they're pumping in crowd noise to replicate a playoff feel – it's pretty loud
• the umps appear quite young
• playing a 4pm game makes sense because they'll play at 4 this wknd & it’ll get players ready for the #shadows
uglyone - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 05:51 PM EDT (#469377) #
https://x.com/KutterIsKing/status/1973450948287799733
Marc Hulet - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 06:00 PM EDT (#469378) #
The Red Sox announcers were all over the sign stealing.
uglyone - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 06:43 PM EDT (#469379) #
yanks are hopeless tbh.
hypobole - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 06:53 PM EDT (#469380) #
Quick hook for Bello.
scottt - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 07:12 PM EDT (#469381) #
It's because they got the Yankees left bats in and Boston is loaded with lefty relievers.
hypobole - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 07:26 PM EDT (#469382) #
Yeah, it makes sense, but still a quick hook for a team's presumptive #2 starter.
uglyone - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 07:39 PM EDT (#469383) #
yanks are terrible. buck was right.
scottt - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 07:43 PM EDT (#469384) #
It's no different than the switcheroos the Jays did with Shoemaker/Ray and Berrios/Kikuchi. It's all planned before the game.

Can't blame Cora for trying to end it today rather than saving the pen for tomorrow. Everybody is well rested except Chapman.
scottt - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 07:47 PM EDT (#469385) #
Normally, the Yanks fall over once the starter is done. Does Boone push Rodon?
John Northey - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 08:04 PM EDT (#469386) #
Btw, was thinking about why winners of game 1 do so well. If you assume every game is 50-50 odds (not unreasonable given the quality of teams) then the odds of winning 2 in a row is 50% x 50% = 25%, odds of winning 1 of 2 is 75% (assumes a loss and a win). Now, it actually can be a lot more complicated but we're going with simple math here as no one cares if it is 24.2% or 25% or 26.2%. So basically there are 4 outcomes - G1 winner wins game 2, G1 winner loses game 2 & game 3, G1 winner loses game 2 and wins game 3, while the 4th option is ignored (G1 winner wins games 2 and 3) since it can't happen (no game 3 in that case). Yet we have an even higher percentage of game 1 winners winning. Why? Probably due to G1 losers having a tired pen, while the winners have a stronger one. It'd be interesting to look at all G1 winners and how they did in G2 for all playoffs.
uglyone - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 09:01 PM EDT (#469387) #
perfect. wear each other out.
BlueJayWay - Wednesday, October 01 2025 @ 09:05 PM EDT (#469388) #
Yankees and Red Sox going to a Game 3 tomorrow.

Yes, yes, fight and struggle!
scottt - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 05:55 AM EDT (#469389) #
Extra innings would have been nice, but given how early Cora went to the pen, unlikely.

Advantage Yankees now, but they don't do well under pressure.
Katie - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 10:24 AM EDT (#469394) #
Do you know which player is most likely to win a World Series ring in 2025? Fangraphs would place his odds, right now, at 48%!

Assuming every team gives a World Series ring to everyone who appeared on the roster during the year (which is what the Dodgers did last year), I submit it's none other than Buddy Kennedy. He'll get one if the Dodgers, Phillies or Jays win the title.
Katie - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 10:35 AM EDT (#469395) #
A non-exhaustive list of other multi-club players includes Casey Lawrence (Jays, Mariners); Jose Urena (Jays, Dodgers); Walker Buehler (Red Sox, Phillies); Lou Trevino (Dodgers, Phillies) and Aaron Civale (Brewers, Cubs). There are several others, I'm sure.
electric carrot - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 12:48 PM EDT (#469398) #
It really is hard for me to decide who I want to win Game 3 bet Yanks and Red Sox.

Normally, I hate the Red Sox more than any other team but this year the team seems less offensive than normal. Also, their bullpen seems likely to be more taxed which is good for the Jays. Moreover, Crochet pitched a ton in game 1 and that can be a good sign for his results in the following game(s) if you're a Jays fan.

This Yankees team seems great but also they have a bozo quality to them too. As a team they look a bit like that phenom teenager who has elite skills but is still a bit awkward and unwieldy at basic things that nearly anyone can do. The Jays are nearly the opposite. They do all the little things right but not as much star power. For that reason I think it would be a lot more fun to beat the Yankees.

Still undecided.
Joe - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 01:52 PM EDT (#469400) #
Regardless of who wins tonight, I'd like the game to go to 15 innings.
Magpie - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 03:29 PM EDT (#469403) #
I have something of a philosophical question.

What is an everyday player?

In 2025, there was exactly one - Matt Olson of the Braves started all 162 games at first base. But that's not really what we mean by "everyday player." But where should we set the bar? As low as just two games out of three? Start 108 games, and you're the everyday guy? That's all it takes?

The game never stops changing, and this is another thing that has changed. The first Blue Jays championship team in 1992 has no less than nine everyday players (you can't really have more than that.) Kelly Gruber's 118 starts at third base was the lowest number of starts by any of the regulars.

Needless to say, no team in 2025 comes close to matching that kind of set lineup. I haven't decided where to set the bar for "everyday," I welcome suggestions - and I'm pretty sure it's much more common in the Other League.
John Northey - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 04:16 PM EDT (#469404) #
My rule of thumb is 500 PA for 'everyday', 300 PA for 'semi-regular', 100 PA for 'used often', all others are 'called up for cups of coffee'.

So for the Jays you get...
  • Regulars: Vlad, Bo (Both over 600), Clement, Springer, Kirk, Barger
  • Semi: Lukes (over 400), Gimenez
  • Often: Straw (299 PA), Varsho, Schneider, Santander (over 200 each), Heinemann, Wagner, Roden, Clase, Loperfido, France (hard to believe he cracked 100 PA)
  • Cups of coffee: all sub 40 PA: Jimenez, IKF, Stefanic, Sanchez, Robertson, Kennedy
Makes sense to me at least.

Pitchers are tougher. 20+ starts or 50+ games for regular, 10+ starts, 20+ games for Semi, 5+ Starts, 10+ games for Often, less for 'who cares'
  • Regulars: Gausman, Bassitt, Berrios (all 30+ starts), Little, Hoffman (70+G), Rodriguez, Fluharty, Fisher
  • Semi: Scherzer, Lauer, Francis, Green, Nance, Dominguez, Varland, Garcia
  • Often: Bieber, Lucas, Sandlin, Bruihl, Schultz
  • Cups of coffee: Urena, Barns, Tate, Swanson, Borucki, Yesavage, Turnbull, Walker, Estradsa, Burr, Lovelady, Lawrence, Pina, and 4 hitters (Heineman 3 times, Sanchez, Stefanic, and IKF)
For ultimate utility guy you get IKF - used at 2B/3B/SS/P here this year and has experience at C/CF/LF/RF/DH in the past. Basically you need a guy for any position he is your guy (last time catching was 2019 but he did come up as a catcher).
Jonny German - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 04:27 PM EDT (#469405) #
No respect for Rafael Denvers and his 163 games played in 2025?
Jonny German - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 04:28 PM EDT (#469406) #
DEVERS. It may have been a tumultuous season but at least he didn’t have to play for the Rockies.
Magpie - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 05:02 PM EDT (#469407) #
I'm thinking about games started at a lineup position, and for one team. Like the nine guys on the '92 Jays. For example, Jose Altuve and Ernie Clement both played almost every game, but neither had an everyday position.
85bluejay - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 05:20 PM EDT (#469408) #
I'm hoping the Red Sox have to use Crochet tonight.
uglyone - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 05:47 PM EDT (#469409) #
what an insane error just now to keep cleveland alive.
uglyone - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 05:56 PM EDT (#469410) #
"everyday player" says to me that it's a player that the manager would rather have in the lineup everyday regardless of matchups.

unfortunately that doesn't translate well to stats searches. A healthy platoon guy might get 500pa but that doesn't make him an everyday guy to me. An everyday player may miss a chunk of the season to injury but it doesn't make him not an everyday player anymore.

but I guess if you're trying to evaluate a team's performance and asking how many "everday player performances" they got that year, then a PA minumum could make sense.

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uglyone - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 06:01 PM EDT (#469411) #
miraculous late season run by the guardians to come back and take 1st place from the tigers....

....only to promptly lose to the tigers.

Magpie - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 06:55 PM EDT (#469412) #
The game will laugh at your ambitions...

So I'm watching Reds-Dodgers last nite, and the camera zooms in on Dave Roberts and I think - gosh, he's been managing that team for a long time. (They immediately cut away to his old manager in the other dugout, but never mind.) Anyway, yeah. This is Roberts 10th season on the job. Now that's the Dodgers, of course- they once went fifty years between manager firings - and he's the fourth man to manage that team for at least ten seasons. Most teams have had at least one guy manage that many seasons for them - the Blue Jays have had two - but there are eight teams who have never, ever had someone last ten years in the Big Chair.

As you would probably guess, seven of those eight teams are part of the post-1961 expansion world. But one of those eight teams has been operating for well over a century without ever finding anyone that they kept on the job longer than nine years.

Care to guess?
uglyone - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 08:07 PM EDT (#469413) #
man robot umps can't come soon enough.

...and why does every scorebug in the league suck except for ours?
99BlueJaysWay - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 08:29 PM EDT (#469414) #
The Cincinnati Reds, of course.
John Northey - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 08:32 PM EDT (#469415) #
Geez, that is a tough one Magpie - I'd guess the Cubs or White Sox as I cannot think of a lifetime manager for either, maybe the Cubs had one in the early 1900's. Yankees had a few long terms, the A's had the longest (Connie Mack) so they are out. Sparky Anderson might have done that for 2 teams (Reds & Tigers). Red Sox... maybe. O's had Earl Weaver for a long time, and others too. Cleveland? No idea. Senators/Twins had a couple I think. Phillies? Maybe but I think they had someone last. Atlanta had Bobby Cox (among others). St Louis had many. Dodgers a few who lasted (Tommy Lasorda the one that immediately comes to mind). Giants? They had a few I'm certain.
John Northey - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 08:34 PM EDT (#469416) #
I'll be damned. Sparky only had 9 years as the Reds manager vs 17 as the Tigers.
greenfrog - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 08:47 PM EDT (#469417) #
It’s early, but Early looks pretty good for Boston.
uglyone - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 08:48 PM EDT (#469418) #
ESPN
@espn

Red Sox ace Garrett Crochet heading to the bullpen for a possible relief appearance in Game 3 🚨

He threw a career-high 117 pitches in Game 1 on Tuesday.
greenfrog - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 08:55 PM EDT (#469419) #
Schlittler throwing 99-101 MPH, with good control/command. As I mentioned the other day, he might be an underrated pitcher this postseason. He looks poised and confident on the mound.
uglyone - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 09:03 PM EDT (#469420) #
this rookie duel should settle the question of whether we should start our ace rookie at least.
uglyone - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 09:20 PM EDT (#469421) #
you must bring in crochet!
Glevin - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 09:20 PM EDT (#469422) #
Yankees nickle and diming the Red Sox now. This game might get out of reach in a hurry.
Magpie - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 09:21 PM EDT (#469423) #
The Cincinnati Reds, of course.

Yes indeed.

The newer teams are Mets, Astros, Rangers, Brewers, Rockies, Marlins, D'Backs.
Magpie - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 09:23 PM EDT (#469424) #
Cora is really hanging in there with this kid.
uglyone - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 09:27 PM EDT (#469425) #
neither of these teams can defend even a little bit.

we are blessed.
Magpie - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 09:28 PM EDT (#469426) #
That should have been a double play and out of the inning with the catcher running.
greenfrog - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 09:31 PM EDT (#469427) #
Tough inning if you’re a Red Sox fan. Could have been a scoreless inning or maybe a one or two-run inning with slightly better BABIP luck and/or defensive execution.
Glevin - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 09:39 PM EDT (#469428) #
Yankees are just a much better team. Red Sox offense especially without Anthony is just not good.
uglyone - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 09:41 PM EDT (#469429) #
yeah but I still have faith in the yanks' bullpen being able to give this one away.
uglyone - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 10:16 PM EDT (#469430) #
yeah this is on the red sox' bats.


Sam Dykstra
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This is Cam Schlittler’s first game with double-digit strikeouts … at any professional level.

He didn’t reach 10+ K’s in any start in the Rookie, Single-A, High-A, Double-A or Triple-A levels.

He’s done it now in the postseason in an elimination game at Yankee Stadium.
uglyone - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 10:42 PM EDT (#469431) #
Welcome to hell, yanktown.
greenfrog - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 10:43 PM EDT (#469432) #
All those deadline trades by SD, and they’re out of the postseason again. WC series can be cruel.

I’m not saying the Blue Jays can’t beat the Yankees, but the loss of healthy/torrid Bo for the ALDS really stings. Toronto will have to find a way. Maybe home field advantage can be the equalizer.
Glevin - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 10:45 PM EDT (#469433) #
Yankees will likely go Warren, Fried, Roden, Schlittler, Fried. Winning game one seems very important because it's Jays #1 vs Yankees #4 but also because winning game 1 is important.
electric carrot - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 11:01 PM EDT (#469434) #
I think the jays line up well against the yankees and home field advantage I think matters. I predict Jays win the series in 4 or 5 games.


hypobole - Thursday, October 02 2025 @ 11:31 PM EDT (#469435) #
I think the Yankees go Gil in game 1. Jays torched Warren the one time he faced them this year.
uglyone - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 01:30 AM EDT (#469436) #
https://x.com/padsfanatic/status/1973951202036756955
StephenT - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 02:07 AM EDT (#469437) #
fyi: It appears the U.S. (Fox) TV broadcast will be available to us for Game 1 with pre-game at 3:30pm (in my case Rogers Xfinity TV in Ottawa has Fox WUTV (Buffalo) on channel 36).
(Sportsnet's pre-game starts at 2:30pm Saturday, 3pm Sunday, for the 4:08pm games.  I believe Sportsnet TV is doing its own broadcast like 2 years ago.)
(I'll try to record both broadcasts, not sure yet how much of each I'll end up watching.)
It looks like the U.S. broadcast of Game 2 is just on FS1 which I can't get (though maybe there will be a replay of parts of it on MLB Network later).
(I've been watching MLB Network after some playoff games to see the manager Q&A, though Sportsnet will likely show that also after Jays games.)
I haven't found info on Fox vs. FS1 for Games 3-5 yet.
scottt - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 05:59 AM EDT (#469438) #
The long ball was missing.
Bellinger seems to be limping.

Boston chased too many high fastballs.
Does Bregman opt out?
41+M is not something I would top.
Jonny German - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 06:31 AM EDT (#469439) #
All 4 Wild Cards went as expected for me, but the division series are tougher to call. I've got

Jays over Yankees
Mariners over Tigers
Dodgers over Phillies
Brewers over Cubs
Katie - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 09:04 AM EDT (#469440) #
Just out of interest (and not because I specifically believe postseason experience is determinative), here are the Blue Jays who will possibly, as I'm including bubble players, be making their postseason debut this year.

Hitters: Heineman, Barger, Schneider, Lukes, Clement, Loperfido.
Pitchers: Yesavage, Rodriguez, Fisher, Little, Fluharty, Nance.
Magpie - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 09:14 AM EDT (#469441) #
Wrapping up the ten-year manager stuff...

There are two men with ten year terms at more than one team: Tony LaRussa (Chicago, Oakland, St.Louis) and Bruce Bochy (San Diego, San Francisco).

Besides the eight teams with no one lasting for ten years, there are ten teams that have had just one man last ten years: St.Louis/Baltimore (Weaver), Boston (Cronin), Cleveland (Francona), Kansas City (Yost), Angels (Scioscia), Montreal/Washington (Alou), Phillies (Wright), San Diego (Bochy), Seattle (Piniella), Tampa Bay (Cash). If the name of Phillies rep Harry Wright doesn't ring a bell - well, he died in 1895.

The Yankees (Huggins, McCarthy, Stengel, Houk, Torre, Girardi) lead the way with six, despite the Steinbrenner years. The Dodgers (Robinson, Alston, Lasorda, Roberts) and and Giants (McGraw, Terry, Baker, Bochy) both have four.

The White Sox (Dykes, Lopez, LaRussa), A's (Mack, LaRussa, Melvin), Pirates (Clarke, Murtaugh, Leyland), Beaneaters/Braves (Selee, Cox, Snitker), Senators/Twins (Harris, Kelly, Gardenhire) and Cardinals (Schoendienst, Herzog, LaRussa) all have three.

And finally, the Cubs (Anson, Grimm), Tigers (Jennings, Anderson), and Blue Jays (Gaston, Gibbons) have two guys.

There. On to the next shiny object...
Jonny German - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 09:28 AM EDT (#469442) #
I wondered if Katie missed fringe-guy Justin Bruihl but nope, he pitched 2 innings for the Dodgers in the 2021 NLCS. And he was great! Struck out 5 of 7 batters and allowed just a single.
Gerry - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 09:40 AM EDT (#469443) #
In minor league news Cutter Coffey has been added to the AFL roster. The Jays announced players back in September were short one player.
Magpie - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 10:29 AM EDT (#469444) #
The reason I was wondering earlier about who is or isn't an everyday player is because the subject I'm actually looking into is that of the Set Lineup. So I need some concept of the Everday Player or the Regular Guy in order to proceed. I decided to set the bar pretty low - 108 games, two-thirds of the schedule, a figure low enough to catch regular catchers in its vast web.

So consider, once more, the 1992 Blue Jays. Here are the games started by the main guy at each position:

c - Borders 132
1b - Olerud 125
2b - Alomar 149
3b - Gruber 118
ss - Lee 126
lf - Maldonado 128
cf - White 151
rf - Carter 123
dh - Winfield 130

That, I would suggest, is one pretty Set Lineup. The 2025 Blue Jays have just two positions where the main guy started as often as the lowest guy on the 1992 Jays, who was limited to 118 games because he lost a month to an injury:

1b - Guerrero 130
ss - Bichette 130

Alejandro Kirk is the only other player who started two-thirds of the games at the same defensive position.

For most of the game's history, managers have generally preferred a Set Lineup. There has always been a little platooning - Casey Stengel talked about platooning as if he'd invented it himself, but he himself was platooned by McGraw in the 1920s. But even managers who liked to platoon, like Weaver and Cox, still had a fairly regular lineup.

That doesn't seem to be the way they do it any more. And especially not in the American League. There were 110 players this season who started at least 108 games at the same defensive position (that's just 3.7 per team) - and a significant majority of them (66 of the 110) played in the National League. The 15 AL teams had just 44 players who met the 108 game benchmark. Six AL team have 4 such players, but no AL team has more than that. In the Other League, both the Cubs and Phillies have 7 guys in the same position for most games; the Dodgers, Brewers, and Padres all have 6. The old-school Set Lineup is definitely more likely to be found in the National League.

There are another 42 players scattered around the majors who started at least two-thirds of their team's games, but not at any one position - the Blue Jays have three of them (Springer, Clement, Barger.) These are more often found in the AL (27 of the 42)
uglyone - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 10:35 AM EDT (#469445) #
Vs TOR this year

RH Gil: 1gms, 6.0ip/gm, 4.0k%, 16.0bb%, 1.17whip, 1.50era
LH Fried: 4gms, 6.1ip/gm, 11.8k%, 7.8bb%, 1.15whip, 4.07era
LH Rodon: 2gms, 5.0ip/gm, 15.7k%, 15.7bb%, 1.90whip, 3.60era
RH Schlittler: 2gms, 3.3ip/gm, 13.5k%, 13.5bb%, 2.55whip, 8.10era
RH Warren: 1gms, 4.0ip/gm, 16.0k%, 16.0bb%, 3.50whip, 18.00era

RH Bednar: 2gms, 1.2ip/gm, 42.9k%, 0.0bb%, 0.43whip, 0.00era
RH Cruz: 3gms, 1.0ip/gm, 23.1k%, 7.7bb%, 1.33whip, 0.00era
LH Hill: 5gms, 1.1ip/gm, 9.5k%, 0.0bb%, 0.94whip, 3.38era
RH Williams: 4gms, 0.8ip/gm, 22.2k%, 16.7bb%, 2.67whip, 15.00era
RH Weaver: 5gms, 0.9ip/gm, 14.3k%, 4.8bb%, 1.29whip, 7.71era
RH Leiter: 6gms, 0.8ip/gm, 31.8k%, 9.1bb%, 1.93whip, 9.64era
RH Doval: 1gms, 1.0ip/gm, 00.0k%, 16.7bb%, 3.00whip, 9.00era
RH Blackburn: 0gms

greenfrog - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 10:48 AM EDT (#469446) #
Mitch Bannon of The Athletic echoed some of the points I made the other day about the choice of SP for game 2:

Shane Bieber is the Jays’ second-best starter, but that doesn’t mean he’ll pitch in Game 2. There is an argument to push Bieber to Game 3, sliding Trey Yesavage into the second slot. Throwing a rookie into his fourth career start, in a potential deciding game of a Division Series at Yankee Stadium, is a huge ask. Two of Bieber’s three career postseason outings came in The Bronx — he’s seen the bright lights before.

A Game 2 start for Yesavage keeps him at Rogers Centre, a friendlier environment, and removes New York’s ability to practice at-bats against him using their home Trajekt pitching simulator. Unfamiliarity with his funky arm slot is a clear edge for Yesavage. Throwing in the second game would also keep the righty available out of the bullpen for Game 5.
uglyone - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 11:02 AM EDT (#469447) #
lemme try that again, for both teams:


Vs TOR this year

LH Fried: 4gms, 6.1ip/gm, 11.8k%, 7.8bb%, 4.07era, 4.20fip, 4.85xfip
LH Rodon: 2gms, 5.0ip/gm, 15.7k%, 15.7bb%, 3.60era, 4.24fip, 6.86xfip
RH Schlittler: 2gms, 3.3ip/gm, 13.5k%, 13.5bb%, 8.10era, 4.34fip, 6.19xfip
RH Gil: 1gms, 6.0ip/gm, 4.0k%, 16.0bb%, 1.50era, 4.80fip, 8.40xfip
RH Warren: 1gms, 4.0ip/gm, 16.0k%, 16.0bb%, 18.00era, 10.64fip, 6.45xfip

RH Bednar: 2gms, 1.2ip/gm, 42.9k%, 0.0bb%, 0.00era, 0.56fip, 1.89xfip
RH Leiter: 6gms, 0.8ip/gm, 31.8k%, 9.1bb%, 9.64era, 1.42fip, 2.41xfip
RH Cruz: 3gms, 1.0ip/gm, 23.1k%, 7.7bb%, 0.00era, 2.14fip, 3.16xfip
LH Hill: 5gms, 1.1ip/gm, 9.5k%, 0.0bb%, 3.38era, 7.26fip, 3.25xfip
RH Williams: 4gms, 0.8ip/gm, 22.2k%, 16.7bb%, 15.00era, 4.47fip, 6.01xfip
RH Weaver: 5gms, 0.9ip/gm, 14.3k%, 4.8bb%, 7.71era, 8.06fip, 6.46xfip
RH Doval: 1gms, 1.0ip/gm, 00.0k%, 16.7bb%, 9.00era, 6.14fip, 9.22xfip
RH Blackburn: 0gms


Vs NYY this year

RH Gausman: 4gms, 5.7ip/gm, 18.6k%, 12.4bb%, 3.97era, 4.28fip, 5.11xfip
RH Bassitt: 4gms, 5.0ip/gm, 24.5k%, 6.9bb%, 3.80era, 5.46fip, 3.66xfip
RH Bieber: 0gms
RH Yesavage: 0gms
RH Scherzer: 3gms, 4.8ip/gm, 32.2k%, 8.5bb%, 6.28era, 5.15fip, 4.01xfip
RH Berrios: 2gms, 4.8ip/gm, 15.6k%, 4.4bb%, 5.59era, 3.65fip, 4.54xfip (1 relief appearance where he got hammered and then went on IL)

RH Hoffman: 7gms, 1.0ip/gm, 22.2k%, 3.7bb%, 1.29era, 3.71fip, 4.05xfip
RH Fisher: 5gms, 0.9ip/gm, 42.1k%, 10.5bb%, 4.15era, 0.83fip, 1.90xfip
RH Rodriguez: 6gms, 1.1ip/gm, 16.7k%, 12.5bb%, 1.35era, 3.29fip, 4.67xfip
LH Little: 6gms, 0.9ip/gm, 24.1k%, 17.2bb%, 5.06era, 3.32fip, 5.64xfip
RH Domingez: 2gms, 0.7ip/gm, 16.7k%, 16.7bb%, 0.00era, 3.89fip, 5.04xfip
RH Varland: 1gms, 0.1ip/gm, 00.0k%, 33.3bb%, 27.00era, 12.14fip, 16.76xfip
LH Fluharty: 3gms, 1.0ip/gm, 00.0k%, 14.3bb%, 6.00era, 10.47fip, 10.25xfip
​LH Lauer: 0gms
John Northey - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 11:18 AM EDT (#469448) #
Funny, the more I think about it the more sense it does make for Yesavage in game 2. Bieber in game 3 means he is good for game 1 in the ALCS if the ALDS goes the full 5.
ISLAND BOY - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 11:21 AM EDT (#469449) #
So it definitely looks like Gil will be the starter for Game 1 for the Yankees. Hopefully the Jays will fare better with him this time. When will the Jay's roster for the LCDS be released? And will Scherzer not be on it?
scottt - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 11:24 AM EDT (#469450) #
Cutter is the most likely prospect to get the call eventually, even if it's just for a cup of something.

Clearly a guy whose parents saw him as a pitcher.
Gerry - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 11:33 AM EDT (#469451) #
If Jays win game one Yesavage starts game two. If they lose its Bieber. Thats just my opinion.
John Northey - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 11:42 AM EDT (#469452) #
Gill looks ideal for the Jays hitters - low K rate (6.5 per 9 IP) and a high walk rate (5.2 BB/9) this year. But in the one game he faced the Jays they hit 150/292/250. Ugh. 2 playoff games last year 8 IP in 2 starts, 6.75 ERA. A RHP so the LH lineup will be used (Barger, Lukes, and Gimenez playing, Schneider not). Fried on Sunday I suspect (regular rest if I added correctly) so the RH lineup (Schneider in, Lukes or Gimenez out).
SK in NJ - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 11:43 AM EDT (#469453) #
The Jays did not want to use Bieber on 4 days rest the last week of the season even though the division was on the line. If they feel more comfortable with giving him an extra day due to coming back from injury, then I either start him in Game 1 so he can go on extra rest in Game 5, or I start him in Game 3 on the road so that Yesavage can start at home in Game 2 and the Jays can use both Gausman and Yesavage in a Game 5 scenario. I'm probably leaning towards the latter if I had to choose, but my guess is the Jays go Gausman and Bieber in that order for the first two.
Maldoff - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 11:46 AM EDT (#469454) #
I would actually pencil Bassitt in for Game 2 and Trey for game 4. Bassitt was 8-0 with a 2.71 ERA at home and 3-9 5.47 ERA on the road.
uglyone - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 12:05 PM EDT (#469455) #
All the arguments make sense (and i think i even brought it up 1st!) but there's a niggling doubt in my mind that worrying about home/away pressure stuff is just being a little too cute.
greenfrog - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 12:37 PM EDT (#469456) #
The Trajekt simulation is something I hadn’t thought of. I wonder how much it would help the Blue Jays for the Yankees to have to face Yesavage for the first time in Toronto without running one of those simulations, especially the first couple of times through the order.

On the other hand, I agree that it’s possible to make too much of these myriad factors. Yesavage seems strong mentally and I imagine he could do well pitching in Yankee Stadium.
uglyone - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 12:41 PM EDT (#469457) #
Gausman announced for game 1. so that's settled.

but no other roster details announced until tomorrow morning.
uglyone - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 01:07 PM EDT (#469458) #
Judge made some very complimentary comments about our offense putting the ball in play and forcing their defense to make the plays, which imo likely means the team is emphasizing it and will probably default towards a max-defense setup against us rather than a max-offense setup.

I did notice that in at least one of the fake intra-squad games the jays have played the last couple days, Schneider was playing 2B, which for me is the right play against both RHP and LHP.

Without Bo we don't really have a choice - and hopefully the defensive upgrade at SS with Clement/Gimenez over Bo makes up for any defensive downgrade at 2B fromm Schneider over Clement/Gimenez. Though i'll understand if Schneider sits vs Schlittler's velocity. Thankfully the Yankees staff isn't exactly a bunch of fireballers.

John Northey - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 01:09 PM EDT (#469459) #
So many decisions. Most will have little to no impact, but some could have a major one, even if it seems minor now.

Back in 2015 having a speedster on the bench was very important and helped. Today I doubt it would. I'd go with as many pitchers as possible for the pen with clearly defined roles for everyone. G1/G3/G5 your best go - Hoffman-Rodriguez-Little-Dominguez if needed. G2/G4 any of those 4 not used are available plus Fluharty-Fisher-Varland with Nance & Lauer the long men if needed. Fluharty is the extra LH if needed in G1/3/5. If Gausman can go 8 then we're laughing going into game 2. If blown out quickly then it becomes a battle.

If I was going to bet I'd bet on the Yankees stretching out every PA as much as possible vs Gausman with a goal of wearing him down and getting him out of the game by the 6th inning - not because of a weak pen here, but to wear that down too for game 2. Jays will do the same to Gill (well, outside of Clement of course) with the same goal. I could see the Jays saying 'we don't need both Nance & Lauer' and keeping just 1 with all the offdays. Perhaps adding an extra LH specialist in Borucki, or having an extra hitter.

Lineup?
  • Obvious: (8) Vlad, Kirk, Clement, Barger, Gimenez, Varsho, Springer, Heineman - 0% chance of any of them not being there unless hurt.
  • Damn near obvious: (3) Schneider, Lukes, Straw - all played a lot and did well, plus clear roles for each.
  • If healthy will be there: (2) Santander, Bo - both near DH only at this point.
  • If room will be there: (1) IKF for backing up everywhere especially late (solid defense everywhere)
  • Fill in's with limited uses: (3) Clase if they want raw speed (ala Pompey in '15/16), Loperfido for a decent LH bat, France to PH
So my guess for a 13 man roster is the obvious 8 plus 3 damn near = 11, 1 of the if healthy (Bo ideally, but probably Santander), plus IKF = 13 If they want to bring both Bo & Santander then you cut a pitcher (Nance or Lauer most likely) but that'd be a mistake imo. IKF's defense/speed late could be useful (plus emergency catcher so could run for the catcher in extras and go behind the plate for the bottom of the inning if needed). The 3 fill in's I only see being a factor if someone is hurt (ie: both Santander & Bo are out, then France or Loperfido could be sorta useful, Clase would only be if they feel they need that speedster role filled which I seriously doubt).
99BlueJaysWay - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 01:13 PM EDT (#469460) #
I strongly preferred Bieber in game 1. I’m worried about Gausman having faced the Yankees 4 times already, and what happens for the rest of the series if he isn’t great.

The only other thing nagging me is Santander. I hope they don’t shove him into the starting lineup. I’d rather give those ABs to Barger and Lukes.
uglyone - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 01:43 PM EDT (#469461) #
That makes me want to take a look at a velo comparison!


Three measures of 4-seasm fastball velo - Sports Info / Statcast / Pitch Info:


Gausman 94.5 / 94.5 / 94.5 ----- Fried 94.3 / 95.8 / 95.8
Bieber 92.6 / 92.6 / 92.7 ------ Rodon 93.8 / 94.1 / 94.1

Yesavage 94.8 / 94.7 / 94.8 ---- Schlittler 98.0 / 98.0 / 97.8
Scherzer 93.6 / 93.6 / 93.5 ---- Gil 95.3 / 95.3 / 95.2
Berrios 92.5 / 93.0 / 93.0 ----- Warren 93.3 / 93.3 / 93.2
Bassitt 91.6 / 91.5 / 91.4 ----- Yarbrough 87.5 / 88.1 / 88.2


Varland 98.0 / 98.1 / 98.1 ----- Doval 97.9 / 98.1 / 98.2
Dominguez 97.7 / 97.6 / 97.7 --- Bednar 97.0 / 97.0 / 97.1
Hoffman 96.4 / 96.4 / 96.4 ----- Weaver 95.2 / 95.1 / 95.1
Yariel 95.7 / 95.7 / 95.7 ------ Williams 94.2 / 94.1 / 94.1
Fisher 95.6 / 95.6 / 95.5 ------ Leiter 93.8 / 93.2 / 93.4
Little 93.5 / 94.4 / 95.4 ------ Cruz 93.6 / 93.9 / 93.9
Fluharty 92.0 / n/a / n/a ------ Blackburn 92.7 / 92.4 / 92.5
Lauer 91.7 / 91.7 / 91.5 ------- Hill 88.7 / 89.9 / 89.9

Nance 94.5 / n/a / n/a --------- Hamilton 95.0 / 95.4 / 95.4



Ok so the Sports Info number (the first one) seems to include Cutters, while the other two those are just 4-seamers. So I was surprised to see Fried getting listed at 95.8 there when to me he's not overpowering.....and then I noticed that he only throws that 4-seamer 12% of the time, while the cutter he throws 28.6% of the time averages 93.5. So that makes sense. I'll leave it to you to decided which number to care about more.

I was a bit dissappointed to see Bieber that low, but then I realized that's actually the hardest he's thrown for a bunch of years now, and the pitch grades out well.

And then while Yesavage throws hard he's clearly not a fireballer like Schlittler.

So there's a definite velo edge to the Yanks in the rotation, even though I wouldn't qualify any of it as overpowering outside of Schlittler.


And then the Jays have the velo advantage in the pen pretty much from top to bottom. Even Little comes out looking faster than I thought.





Katie - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 01:44 PM EDT (#469462) #
Jonny, I did check Bruihl! I was very surprised by the result.
Katie - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 01:50 PM EDT (#469463) #
I'm not convinced either of them will make the roster this round, but I think Loperfido and France are far more likely than Clase (who I didn't include in my post above).

Clase is a pinch-runner only, since he's not a strong defensive outfielder and hasn't proven he can hit, and the Jays have that covered in Straw and have other options to pinch-run, such as IKF, who I think will make it since Bo is highly unlikely to be healthy. Loperfido and France both provide bats off the bench for pinch-hitting purposes and that's far more valuable, IMO.

The 2015 Jays didn't have a bench outfielder like Straw, so Pompey had more utility then.
Glevin - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 01:57 PM EDT (#469464) #
I strongly preferred Bieber in game 1. I’m worried about Gausman having faced the Yankees 4 times already, and what happens for the rest of the series if he isn’t great."

He's gotten better against them every start. If facing them three times didn't matter, don't think facing them four should make a difference. I don't think it matters too much because game one and two starters can both go twice in series. Gausman was their best pitcher this year, pitched very well against Yankees. Don't overthink it.
greenfrog - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 02:14 PM EDT (#469465) #
Overall, if the Blue Jays play the way they are capable of playing, they should win the series. They have the pitching, hitting and defense to do this. They are rested. And they have a 3-2 home field advantage.
greenfrog - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 02:35 PM EDT (#469466) #
On the topic of “don’t pitch to Judge in the series” (my words), ESPN notes:

While the Yankees' lineup is deeper than a year ago, Judge is the motor. And his career success against Toronto suggests he should have a huge series. Judge has a career .300/.420/.597 slash line with 41 home runs in 133 games against the Blue Jays. This year, he batted .325 with three home runs and a 1.118 OPS in 56 appearances across 13 games. He has crushed Kevin Gausman (1.283 OPS in 61 plate appearances), José Berríos (1.195 OPS in 44 plate appearances) and Chris Bassitt (.935 OPS in 28 plate appearances) over his career. This, on paper, is an ideal matchup for a two-time AL MVP looking to exorcise October postseason demons.
greenfrog - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 02:47 PM EDT (#469467) #
I wonder if the ESPN writers know Berrios won’t be pitching in the series (they probably don’t).
uglyone - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 03:09 PM EDT (#469468) #


TOR Season: 162gms, 4.9runs/gm, 8.4bb%, 17.8k%, 1.2hr/gm, 0.5sb/gm (76%), .265/333/.427/.760
TOR v NYY: 13gms, 5.4runs/gm, 10.9bb%, 15.3k%, 1.0hr/gm, 0.4sb/gm (63%), .263/.347/.423/.770

NYY Season: 162gms, 5.2runs/gm, 10.2bb%, 23.5k%, 1.7hr/gm, 0.8sb/gm (78%), .251/.332/.455/.787
NYY v TOR: 13gms, 4.5runs/gm, 10.6bb%, 22.6k%, 1.4hr/gm, 0.5sb/gm (64%), .236/.320/.424/.743



I know there's a lot of talks about how being a homer-heavy or a no-strikeouts team may or may not be better come playoffs time, but imo those arguments are mostly hogwash. i don't think it really matters what style you play. Any style can win.
greenfrog - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 03:26 PM EDT (#469469) #
And as we saw in game 3 of the NYY-Bos series, having some BABIP luck in a short series can help too.
John Northey - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 03:33 PM EDT (#469470) #
If Judge gets any high leverage PA and isn't just sent to first (outside of bases loaded, and maybe even then if a 2+ run lead) then the Jays are not playing smart.

Yankees with Judge: 251/331/455
Yankees without Judge: 242/316/429

Now that is a big difference. Giancarlo Stanton has a 943 OPS, then a batch in the low 800's (Rice, Caballero, Bellinger, Chisholm, Grisham) then you just enjoy the game. So not 100% Judge, but damn close.

Jays best OPS is Springer at 959 leading off, then Loperfido 879 (431 BABIP is why), Vlad 848, Bo 840, Varsho 833, Schneider 797. 750+ is Kirk & Heineman plus Barger. Lukes is the last guy still here with a 100+ wRC+ and a 730 OPS. Clement finished with a 98 via his 711 OPS.

The Yankees can be pitched to - 1463 K's vs Jays 1099. For the AL the Yankees were #1 in runs, Jays #2. For allowing runs Yankees were #7, Jays #10. Yankees #2 in K's by pitchers, Jays #3. In short, this should be a high scoring series - so now watch us get a few 1-0 games or something.
uglyone - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 03:51 PM EDT (#469471) #
Might as well look at how the Yanks actually did against Boston....


CF Grisham: 13pa, 7.7bb%, 38.5k%, .286babip, .167avg, .083iso, 35wrc+
RF Judge: 12pa, 0.0bb%, 16.7k%, .444babip, .364avg, .000iso, 130wrc+
LF Bellinger: 12pa, 0.0bb%, 8.3k%, .273babip, .250avg, .083iso, 59wrc+
DH Stanton: 12pa, 8.3bb%, 16.7k%, .111babip, .091avg, .091iso, -3wrc+
SS Volpe: 11pa, 0.0bb%, 45.5k%, .600babip, .364avg, .273iso, 179wrc+
C Wells: 10pa, 10.0bb%, 30.0k%, .333babip, .222avg, .000isom 55wrc+
2B Chisholm: 9pa, 11.1bb%, 33.3k%, .400babip, .250avg, .000iso, 74wrc+
1B Rice: 7pa, 0.0bb%, 42.9k%, .333babip, .286avg, .429iso, 173wrc+
3B Rosario: 6pa, 0.0bb%, 16.7k%, .200babip, .167avg, .000iso, -13wrc+

UT Goldschmidt: 5pa, 0.0bb%, 20.0k%, .750babip, .600avg, .000iso, 250wrc+
OF Dominguez: 0pa
IF McMahon: 5pa, 20.0bb%, 40.0k%, .500babip, .250avg, .000iso, 103wrc+
IF Caballero: 3pa, 00.0bb%, 33.3k%, .000babip, .000avg, .000iso, -100wrc+
C Escarra: 0pa


As usual, the offensive hero is usually some depth guy, and this time it was the much-maligned Volpe. Though the Rice/Goldschmidt 1B platoon combo was also good.


But really the yankees' offense didn't do much of anything, and that's not all because of Crochet. They weren't very good against any of the boston pitching - even with Boston's defense kicking the ball all around the field.


Really this series came down to the Red Sox' bats just not being near good enough. Without Anthony in that lineup it's a league average offense at BEST.
uglyone - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 03:55 PM EDT (#469472) #
Is this gonna be our first playoffs game with roof open?
uglyone - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 04:04 PM EDT (#469473) #


LH Fried: 1gms, 6.1ip, 24.0k%, 12.0bb%, 0era-, 62fip-, 81xfip-
LH Rodon: 1gms, 6.0ip, 24.0k%, 12.0bb%, 111era-, 125fip-, 118xfip-
RH Schlittler: 1gms, 8.0ip, 41.4k%, 0.0bb%, 0era-, 1fip-, 34xfip-
RH Warren: 0gms
RH Gil: 0gms


RH Bednar: 3gms, 0.9ip/gm, 36.4k%, 9.1bb%, 83era-, 28fip-, 57xfip-
RH Williams: 2gms, 1.0ip/gm, 14.3k%, 14.3bb%, 0era-, 85fip-, 143xfip-
RH Cruz: 2gms, 0.8ip/gm, 14.3k%, 14.3bb%, 0era-, 88fip-, 157xfip-
LH Hill: 1gms, 0.1ip/gm, 0.0k%, 0.0bb%, 0era-, 73fip-, 187xfip-
RH Weaver: 1gms, 0.0ip/gm, 0.0k%, 33.3bb%, 444era-, 145fip-, 148xfip-
RH Doval: 0gms
RH Leiter: 0gms
RH Blackburn: 0gms



Not even real pitching dominance, other than the best game Schlittler has thrown since little league.
greenfrog - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 04:22 PM EDT (#469474) #
I think there is a good chance Schlittler (can we just call him Cam for short?) is breaking out. He also looked extremely good in his previous start (against Baltimore):

7 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 9 K (GSv2 score 84, his highest of the season)

One reason I’ve been pining for Bo is that he’s capable of battling Cam’s FB and helping run up his pitch count.
uglyone - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 04:54 PM EDT (#469475) #
Could be I'm biased by the Jays not having much trouble handling him both times they faced him this year. Just takes a bit of discipline not to swing at the high heat.

And i wasn't following every pitch but it sure seemed like the red sox just kept swinging and swinging at every high 4 seamer.
Michael - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 05:26 PM EDT (#469476) #
This article https://www.mlb.com/news/yankees-blue-jays-2025-alds-position-by-position-breakdown compared the Yankees and Jays position by position and has most going to the Yankees (all other than C, 1B, DH, and bullpen). I'd say they got CF wrong as that is advantage Jays. They predict Yankees in 4.
uglyone - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 05:44 PM EDT (#469477) #
Yeah they messed up in CF, but also at SS and 3B - and to do it they said that Giminez was fulltime SS, but at 3B they gave the yanks an advantage based on a 3-headed-platoon. They only mention defense swhen it comes to Barger, but ignore it when it comes to Varsho and Gimenez. While also ignoring Schneider completely in any jays platoon.

Of course, position by position doesn't really make much sense since both teams move players around a lot.


CF Grisham 581pa, 129wrc+, 3.5war/650 (116wrc+ projected)
CF Varsho 271pa, 123wrc+, 5.3war/650 (104wrc+ projected)

You can see from the war difference that Varsho's vastly superior defense more than makes up for Grisham's slight edge offensively.


SS Volpe 596pa, 83wrc+, 1.2war/650 (94wrc+ projected)
SS Gimenez 369pa, 71wrc+, 2.1war/650 (95wrc+ projected)

Both terrible at the plate this year but both with similar offensive projection, but Giminez with the better glove. But of course there's a solid chance that Clement gets the bulk of the time here anyway:

SS Clement 588pa, 98wrc+, 3.5war/650 (97wrc+ projected)



3B McMahon 586pa, 86wrc+, 2.1war/650 (94wrc+ projected)
3B Barger 502pa, 107wrc+, 2.8war/650 (105wrc+ projeced)

Takes a lot of work to spin this as an advantage for the yanks......so the writer decides to give the yanks credit for using a platoon here. But no similar credit to the platoon-happy jays. Here's the platoon options vLHP:

3B Clement 146wrc+
3B Caballero 129wrc+








hypobole - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 05:57 PM EDT (#469478) #
Gibby and a bunch of other coaches fired by Mets for some reason.
99BlueJaysWay - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 06:42 PM EDT (#469479) #
Glevin, I think Bieber has been their best pitcher so that’s another reason I wanted him first. Also, unless the Jays plan on bringing people in on short rest, which they have been very deliberate in avoiding, there is no way the Game 1 and 2 starters to pitch twice. It’s fair that the game 2 starter could pitch in game 5 on regular rest, so that made me feel better.
Glevin - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 07:12 PM EDT (#469480) #
Some thoughts about who to start. Two lefties so would be sitting Gimenez against most of those and therefore probably starting him in other games. I'd play same lineup that did well against Schlittler against probably put IKF for Bo because strangely, Schittler is the kind of pitcher he does well against. Santander I'd find spots to play (easier vs LHP) but has to be worked in with other guys vs RHP.
JB21 - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 08:01 PM EDT (#469481) #
I read that Gibby resigned.
greenfrog - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 09:01 PM EDT (#469482) #
Most of The Athletic’s baseball writers are picking the Yankees to win the ALDS (92% of the vote).

We’ll see what happens. Baseball can be unpredictable.
John Northey - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 09:53 PM EDT (#469483) #
Clearly the Athletic's writers don't feel defense and pitching win anymore. Just raw power. I think they forget the Jays were 8-5 with a runs for/against of 70-59 this year.
  • Gausman: 2-1 3.97 ERA in 4 starts 22 2/3 IP 17 H 12 BB 18 SO 2 HR
  • Bassitt: 2-2 3.80 ERA in 4 starts 23 2/3 IP 20 H 7 BB 25 SO 6 HR (ouch on HR)
  • Scherzer: 0-1 6.28 ERA in 3 starts 14 1/3 IP 11 H 5 BB 19 SO 4 HR - yeah, he ain't starting in this series I hope
  • Yesavage didn't pitch vs Yankees
  • Hoffman: 5 saves in 7 games, 1.29 ERA 7 IP 5 H 1 BB 6 SO 1 HR (the only run he allowed)
  • Little: 5.06 ERA 5 1/3 IP 9 H 5 BB 7 SO - uh oh.
  • Rodriguez: 1.35 ERA 6 G 6 2/3 IP 2 H 3 BB 4 SO 0 HR - nice
  • Fisher: 4.15 ERA 5 G 4 1/3 IP 3 H 2 BB 8 SO 0 HR - very nice
  • Fluharty: 6.00 ERA 3 G 3 IP 2 H 2 BB 0 SO 1 HR - not good
  • Bruihl 4 G 2 1/3 IP 3 H 2 BB 3 SO 0 HR 1 ER
  • Everyone else who might be on the roster just 1 game each at most vs Yankees
Our LH relievers don't look good there. Borucki's 1 game saw 1 2/3 IP 0 H 0 BB 0 R 2 K so he might sneak on the roster due to that (a 3-4 loss to the Yankees so the pressure was there).
  • Fried: 2-1 4.07 ERA in 4 starts 24 1/3 IP 20 H 8 BB 12 SO 2 HR
  • 2 starts max for anyone else, ERA's from 3.6 for Roden, Schmidt 4.50, Schlittler 8.10, none over 10 IP.
So expect lots of Yankee pen work. Lots. Jays hitters need to be patient and work the count as much as possible to wear these guys down, and then feast on that pen. Keep putting balls in play to take advantage of their horrid defense.
92-93 - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 10:39 PM EDT (#469484) #
Fried has reverse splits, so Gimenez should start vs. him.
scottt - Friday, October 03 2025 @ 11:45 PM EDT (#469485) #
The Mets sucked.
The team offense was less than the sun of the players offense.
Hardly any holes in the lineup, yet they scored only 766 runs.
hypobole - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 12:07 AM EDT (#469486) #
Never laid a bet with a sportsbook, but I'm thinking of putting some money on the Jays. One American site has the Yankees -150, Jays +130 Does that mean I win $130 for a $100 bet if I bet the Jays and they win, or are there other charges involved as well?
greenfrog - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 01:13 AM EDT (#469487) #
I don’t think the Yankees defense is great, but it’s better than it was earlier in the season, partly because they acquired McMahon to shore up third base.

Seems like they have a few arrow-up guys as well, like Schlittler, Stanton (172 wRC+ in the second half), and Rice (147 wRC+ in the second half).

I still think the Blue Jays can win if they pitch well, stay within themselves, and execute their game plan.
James W - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 02:45 AM EDT (#469488) #
hypobole - +130 means exactly that. If you spend $100 you would get $230 back. No other charges.
Michael - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 05:24 AM EDT (#469489) #
Yeah, a minus number is how much you need to bet to win $100. A plus number is how much you win if you bet $100.

So a true 50/50 event odds line would often be listed as -110 for both sides.

So a bet of $110 on team A pays $100 profit ($210 total) if A wins and a bet of $110 on team B pays $100 profit ($210 total) if B wins. And hence if two people each bet on the other the casino/bank would win $10 as they collect $220 and payout $210 for a vig of 4.54%.

So in your case with the Yankees -150 and Jays +130 they've moved the line from even 40 towards the Yankees. Moving both lines in sync is pretty normal to maintain the vig (although once lines start going well above 200 or so they often increase the spread in vig as well since it is less coin flippy and more long shotty).

Conventionally betting wisdom is that teams that are overrepresented amongst the betting public (often the Yankees or other New York teams) might get more action than they'd deserved and thus might have a softer line. Sports books/casinos don't in reality exactly balance the money typically (they generally know enough to set good lines and be willing to take some risk if the public has lots of "dumb" money), but there still might be some counterbalancing. Of course as the ratings for games show and road attendance the Jays actually have lots of fans, although it may depend on which sports book you visit on if you are likely to see more Jays fans or Yankee fans or same.

Also, if you do want to bet it may be worthwhile checking both the line on the series as well as the line on individual games as sometimes these may not be self-consistent and may represent possible better values (although back in the day some baseball bets on individual games may only be valid for certain known startering pitchers and may turn no-bet if the starting pitchers change so that is one thing to watch for possibly when doing those checks).

I see FanDuel has the Jays are +132 right now with the Yankees at -156 for the series (which is about a 40% chance for the Jays). But the Jays are actually the favorites for winning game 1 at home with our #1 starter (-124 Jays to +106 for Yankees). You can probably get slightly better lines (or less vig spread) on some other sites for both of those.

If we had a healthy Bo I think we'd be the favorites. Without him, I think the home field and rested staff makes us about 50/50 to win the series against the Yankees that were substantially better than the Jays by RS/RA this season, so I agree there might be some value on these lines.
Marc Hulet - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 09:37 AM EDT (#469490) #
If the Jays don't sweep the first two games, there's probably no shot at winning. Yankees have much better SP, their bullpen (despite a weakness) is rested and their offence is better. Defence is weaker but they can mash and make up for their mistakes.

Home plate Umpire for game 1, Chris Segal, has been behind home plate for the Yankees 3 times in the last two years and heavily favored NYY all 3 times per Ump Scorecard. Very inaccurate but overly consistent. One time as home plate umpire for a Jays game and favored the opponent.

Interesting choice for the game.
92-93 - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 09:44 AM EDT (#469491) #
You must be very excited to watch your Yankees, Marc Hulet.

At least Bednar isn't rested, he pitched in all 3 WC games. I'll take the Jays' rested pen over theirs.
uglyone - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 09:55 AM EDT (#469492) #
I see the importance of winning game 1 but i don't see why it's crucial to have to beat Fried in game 2. Game 2 is probably the yanks most advantageous game.
greenfrog - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 09:58 AM EDT (#469493) #
I quickly perused some of Segal’s ump scorecards from the last eight years or so (not a deep dive). Overall he seems to be about an average ump. There seems to have been some favouritism of the Yankees during Yankee home games, but overall he seems sorta middling in terms of accuracy and maybe less favouring of the home team than most umps engage in. I would be interested to hear what other people think about him.
uglyone - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 10:03 AM EDT (#469494) #
SP Fangraphs Combined zips/steamer Projections


Gausman 3.72era 3.66fip ---- Gil 4.38era 4.49fip
Bieber 3.60era 3.68fip ----- Fried 3.24era 3.37fip
Yesavage 3.73era 3.79fip --- Rodon 3.99era 3.89fip
Bassitt 3.95era 4.04fip ---- Schlittler 4.21era 4.25fip
Gausman/Bieber ------------- Fried

uglyone - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 10:12 AM EDT (#469495) #
Oh wow no bassitt or Scherzer on the roster.

Lauer would the closest thing to a 4th starter but that could just be a bullpen game.

A 4th lefty Bruihl makes the team instead. I don't mind Bruihl but here's where i'd have preferred Borucki i think.

Ballsy calls.
uglyone - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 10:15 AM EDT (#469496) #
And loperfido gets cut.
greenfrog - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 10:16 AM EDT (#469497) #
Sportsnet: “Bichette has been ruled out for the ALDS against the New York Yankees as the shortstop continues to work his way back from a knee sprain.”
uglyone - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 10:20 AM EDT (#469498) #
RH Gausman
RH Bieber
RH Yesavage
LH Lauer

RH Hoffman
RH Fisher
RH Varland
RH Dominguez
RH Rodriguez
RH Nance
LH Little
LH Fluharty
LH Bruihl
John Northey - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 10:33 AM EDT (#469499) #
The batters...
C: Kirk/Heineman
1B: Vlad
IF: Clement, Gimenez, Barger, IKF
OF: Lukes, Santander, Schneider, Springer, Straw, Varsho

So no surprises there. Once you go through the possibilities IKF was needed as an IF backup. Sadly Bo isn't ready.
Jonny German - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 10:48 AM EDT (#469500) #
I’m surprised they left Bassit off but not surprised that Bruihl was the countermove. The Yankees have an awful lot of hitters who can be neutralised by lefties. And of course Judge it doesn’t matter R/L, you probably want to just walk him regardless.
Katie - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 10:49 AM EDT (#469501) #
There was no spot for Loperfido or France with that many pitchers.

Bruihl is the only real surprise. I thought we'd see Bassitt added and Lauer in the pen, but they seem to have prioritized lefties.
greenfrog - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 11:05 AM EDT (#469502) #
I like having the extra lefty for those game-on-the-line situations where you need to get a key out or two against LHB (like Grisham, Rice, Bellinger) to close out an inning with runners on. The Blue Jays will likely find themselves in a number of those situations in the series.
hypobole - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 11:11 AM EDT (#469503) #
Thanks James and Michael. OMG what a hassle to join Fanduel. Couldn't use my desktop because it's linux. Finally managed to put $100 on Jays to win the series on my phone.

Glevin - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 11:19 AM EDT (#469504) #
A little surprised by Bassit being off but I personally would have gone Lauer/bullpen with game 4 anyway so I think it's right move. I would have been shocked if hitters were any different. Think it was pretty obvious.
SK in NJ - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 11:23 AM EDT (#469505) #
The extra lefty (Bruihl) likely means that Lauer is either starting Game 4 or more likely going to be used in a bulk role after an opener. I think I'd prefer that option over starting Bassitt or Scherzer, so right call IMO.
uglyone - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 11:29 AM EDT (#469506) #
Its possible that bassitt is actually injured.
Marc Hulet - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 11:30 AM EDT (#469507) #
Smart move going with an extra arm against the Yankees' vaunted lineup.
ayjackson - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 11:42 AM EDT (#469508) #
I still can't believe someone would bet $1,000 on a season wins total o/u.

Last time I bet on sports was with my great uncle in 1976 in Wales. I believe it was call the "pools" but I have no real recollection of what we bet on. Horses or football, I'd guess.

If no betting on sports meant less interest in sports, I'd be fine with that. Goes for Fantasy, too.

/end grumpy old man rant
92-93 - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 11:47 AM EDT (#469509) #
The Jays are rolling with Santander over Schneider in Game 1. Not what I would have done, but perhaps they look what they've seen from his swings over the last week.

Kirk should be batting ahead of Barger, but Schneider loves him some R/L/R/L assortments.
hypobole - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 11:54 AM EDT (#469510) #
$1000 is a lot of money if you live paycheque to paycheque. To others, $1000 is easily affordable.
Glevin - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 12:10 PM EDT (#469511) #
Wow yesavage starting game 2, Bieber game 3.
greenfrog - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 12:24 PM EDT (#469512) #
Betting seems like one of those things that, while harmless for some, can lead others down a bad path (as we’ve seen with multiple professional athletes). So I choose to avoid it altogether.
85bluejay - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 12:29 PM EDT (#469513) #
I prefer Yesavage to start at home than in Yankee stadium and have the veteran Bieber start on the road.
SK in NJ - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 12:44 PM EDT (#469514) #
Big fan of the Gausman-Yesavage-Bieber-Bullpen set up for this series. Win or lose, I think that's the best configuration they could have done.
JohnL - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 01:15 PM EDT (#469517) #
“Last time I bet on sports was with my great uncle in 1976 in Wales.
/end grumpy old man rant”

Last time I bet on sports was for the Leafs to win the Stanley Cup. How long ago? I WON the bet. Grade 7 or 8. ?1962?

/end grumpy much older man.
hypobole - Saturday, October 04 2025 @ 01:26 PM EDT (#469519) #
The first time I bet on sports was in 67. Was a Wings fan back then. Lost 25 cents.

Only bet with a bookie for a short time after I moved to Toronto and became a Leafs fan. Worked in a factory and one of the office guys decided to become a bookie. This was during the Ballard years and we kept betting against the Leafs. We kept winning. He finally ran out of money to pay us. Cornered him outside the office. Said he had the money in his car. Watched him go to his car, jump in and drive off. We all eventually got paid, but that was the end of his operation.
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