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The Jays roll into the windy city off the back of a sweep in Boston. Vlad hit a home run! His first in a month. Can he hit another before June is out? The Jays will roll out Gausman, Corbin and Cease, if the bats come through the wins should keep coming.

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Friday: Gausman vs Brown

Saturday: Corbin vs Rea

Sunday: Cease vs Imanaga


The Cubs are 39-36, and are 5-5 in their last ten games. Pete Crow Armstrong and Ian Happ provide the thump in the Cubbies lineup.

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Gerry - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 01:25 PM EDT (#479235) #
Brendon Little is with the Jays in Chicago. No move has been announced yet but Chad Dallas's services are probably not needed in Chicago.
SK in NJ - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 01:49 PM EDT (#479236) #
Valenzuela not in the lineup today after being the hero last game. In 7 games since Kirk returned, Valenzuela has started 2 of them. It's a unique scenario where the team's leader in fWAR and wRC+ is getting backup catcher playing time now, I can't imagine that has happened often, but there doesn't appear to be any urgency from the team to be flexible with lineups. If Kirk is a 5 out of every 7 catcher like he was last year, then might as well have Valenzuela in AAA since you're risking throwing off his rhythm offensively. If it was closer to 4 out of every 7, with some DH mixed in, then it becomes more reasonable, but I doubt that's in their plans since Springer is their most respected veteran and will handle the DH spot for the rest of the season. It's just a strange scenario. Good problem to have obviously, a catcher developing out of thin air is never a bad thing, but they need to figure out how to play him more.
dalimon5 - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 02:06 PM EDT (#479238) #
That rationale only makes sense if you're putting the player's development ahead of the team's performance goals and wins for this season. John Schneider has said that he expects to have Springer in the OF for some games, which I interpreted as Valenzuela getting some DH run.

Personally I would send Valenzuela down for the greater good (not just 2026 season) if I couldn't find him ABs.
scottt - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 02:09 PM EDT (#479239) #
Macko has been good. Little's ERA in Buffalo is 2.31, so hopefully he's been better lately.

I guess Dallas was the blow out guy.
scottt - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 02:16 PM EDT (#479240) #
You play Springer in the outfield to sit a left outfield bat and DH a right infield bat.
It doesn't have to be a catcher.

Brown is basically a right handed side thrower.
Right handed batters haven't done anything against him this year.
However, picking when to use the backup catcher might have more to to with the Jays pitcher than the opposition pitcher.

Is Ben Brown the worse baseball name?
Is there a John Smith somewhere?
TamRa - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 02:31 PM EDT (#479241) #
I speculate that the plan had been to send down Dallas for Garcia but Yeni wasn't impressive last night. I would have expected Macko but either him or Little would presumptively be the one to go back when Bieber is activated. Barring an "injury" of course.

Still don't know how they fit both him and Garcia on the roster (Yemi has 8 days left on his clock) barring an injury or giving up on SWR
Nigel - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 02:36 PM EDT (#479242) #
Based upon the reports that I've seen, I don't think Garcia getting recalled is a given. His stuff has not returned (as of yet).
Nigel - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 02:40 PM EDT (#479243) #
Gausman may not make it out of the first here. Having to do a bullpen day on a Gausman start would really put the pen in a rough spot for the next few days.
Eephus - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 02:43 PM EDT (#479244) #
Well then. Have a good afternoon, everybody.
Glevin - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 02:45 PM EDT (#479245) #
Why did Jays do the Dallas/Little switch today? Why not wait until SWR had enough rest to go long again?
prospect - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 02:47 PM EDT (#479246) #
Sucks that we optioned Dallas. Just concede the game. Gausman gotta suck it up and empty the tank.
Ryan Day - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 02:57 PM EDT (#479247) #
Somewhat unexpected downside of trading Heineman - they might need him out of the bullpen today.
Nigel - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 03:02 PM EDT (#479248) #
They gambled and lost on their pen decision before the game. Its hard to criticize the decision in one respect (Gausman was unlikely to get shelled) but I'm not sure exactly what the upside was.
Mike Green - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 03:03 PM EDT (#479249) #
I wasn't impressed with Sanchez' approach on Suzuki's double. He wasn't covering much ground early on, and if he had played it better, he wouldn't have had the issue with the wall. Or so it seemed to me.  
Nigel - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 03:13 PM EDT (#479250) #
Sanchez has always rated as a poor defender but this year his defensive metrics are horrible (same as Pinango). His issues in the field and on the bases pretty much negate his offensive contributions. Both Sanchez and Pinango are essentially DH's unfortunately.
Mike Green - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 03:23 PM EDT (#479251) #
Nigel, Sanchez' defensive numbers were pretty decent across the board prior to this year.  But he has been bad in 2026.  
scottt - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 03:43 PM EDT (#479252) #
Use Little until they trail by 10 and use Straw or McAdoo.
dalimon5 - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 03:44 PM EDT (#479253) #
Sanchez with an unacceptable defensive play. Completely turned the inning.
scottt - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 04:21 PM EDT (#479254) #
Little is still useless.
Katie - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 04:29 PM EDT (#479255) #
No, the good times will not keep rolling.

For today, at least.
Nigel - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 04:31 PM EDT (#479256) #
I'll return to my earlier point - I'm not sure what the upside of the Dallas demotion and Little promotion was. If it was for Macko maybe.
prospect - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 04:35 PM EDT (#479257) #
Can we just DFA Little? I don't get how he gets this long of a leash to remain in this organization.
jerjapan - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 04:35 PM EDT (#479258) #
Ben Brown at least is alliterative. Sounds like a guy in an old blues tune.
Ryan Day - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 04:36 PM EDT (#479259) #
The rest of this horror show notwithstanding, it's nice to see that George Springer may not be done just yet.
Gerry - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 05:21 PM EDT (#479260) #
So who gets called up? Not Dallas unless there is an injury. That leaves Macko, Lee or Estrada. Bloss just pitched so not him. My money is on Macko, although Estrada could give more length. Estrada is on the IL but could come off.
TamRa - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 05:23 PM EDT (#479261) #
So...tell Candele to be sure Macko doesn't pitch tonight?
Little down for Macko tomorrow and Macko down for Bieber Monday?

They can't bring Dallas back except in response to an injury ...activate Estrada? You'll need a 40 man spot because he's on the 60 day IL. He'd be on 3 days rest. SWR only has 2 days so not really an option tomorrow. A big offensive outburst would not go amiss.
Mike Green - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 05:27 PM EDT (#479262) #
Very painful to have to use high leverage relievers in a blowout because you don't have the arms to avoid it.  Blech.  
Dr B - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 05:29 PM EDT (#479263) #
Macko was optioned on the 9th. I believe he can't be recalled before 15 days have passed.
hypobole - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 06:33 PM EDT (#479264) #
On the subject of relievers here's a crazy stat:

James Woods is 23 and has played 311 games. He's already faced more pitchers in his MLB career than Ted Williams faced in his MLB career.
GabrielSyme - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 06:43 PM EDT (#479265) #
After a horrible May, Springer has been pretty good this month. He was better in the second half last year, so maybe he's taking longer to get in gear now. He's a year older, and last year was a career year, so you can't expect the same production. If he can manage a 120 wRC+ for the remainder of the season, that would be great.
mendocino - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 06:45 PM EDT (#479266) #
Francys Romero@francysromeroFR

The Toronto Blue Jays plan to activate right-hander pitcher Lazaro Estrada in the coming hours, per sources.

Estrada, 27, threw 12.1 innings on a rehab assignment with Triple-A Buffalo, recording 13 strikeouts.
June Northey - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 07:15 PM EDT (#479267) #
I'm guessing Little back to Buffalo - somehow he increased his ERA from 24.55 to 27.00 - not easy to do, but he did it ending with a bases loaded walk.
scottt - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 08:57 PM EDT (#479268) #
Juenger and Chase Lee can be let go, I guess.
Gerry - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 09:03 PM EDT (#479269) #
Macko is currently pitching so he is definitely out.
vw_fan17 - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 10:48 PM EDT (#479272) #
So much for "enjoying a bit of baseball on replay after work".. Jumped from post-walk PCA to top of 2nd and before I was done with dinner, the game was over..
dalimon5 - Friday, June 19 2026 @ 11:26 PM EDT (#479273) #
Streaming has changed how I watch baseball. I haven't seen a live game since the playoffs and often wait until minimum 50 minutes before I tune in so I can skip commercials or entire half innings depending on the score and players. Usually just skip 15 seconds to dissect the game and feel like the character in The Fifth Element who is downloading a bunch of info. Kind of feel the same way when using an AI chat... anyways I spend less time on baseball now but don't feel like I miss any information, likely because I follow this site/board which is the perfect compliment to the intermittent way I consume the televised games.
jz6pwc - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 07:51 AM EDT (#479274) #
@dalimon5. What streaming service do you use?
dalimon5 - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 10:01 AM EDT (#479276) #
I still go to the ballpark to watch games, by "no live" I mean on TV.

I use Apple TV hardware and use the Sportsnet App which I get included in my Bell subscription. I have the cheapest package that lets you add the Sportsnet channel. This way I get the app for "free." The picture quality is very very good but the playback can be sporadic. When I restart a game instead of going live sometimes it kicks me out and I have to restart again and fast forward to the inning where I left off. For this reason I've started to sometimes just use the Bell box and either pause the game for 45 minutes before I start watching (no buffer/kick out issues).

dalimon5 - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 10:03 AM EDT (#479277) #
I also have Proton VPN because I wanted to watch The Legend of 1900 which is no longer available in Canada. Turns out VPN and log-ins, log-outs and passcodes is just a bridge too far for me. Just easier using the SN app through a bell subscription for me.
Petey Baseball - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 11:30 AM EDT (#479279) #
As Sanchez demonstrated yesterday, it's Barger's speed on the base paths and defense in the outfield they miss far more than production. They're both streaky hitters, probably about the same production, all in all. They just really miss the assists in the outfield and ability to catch balls in the gaps and prevent extra bases. Outfield defense so under rated, you have seen it play out over the first half of the year.

dalimon5 - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 01:24 PM EDT (#479280) #
KC just signed Matt Moore to a minors deal. He was pitching injured the last time he was in MLB but before that when healthy in 23/24 he provided value.
mathesond - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 01:35 PM EDT (#479281) #
As someone whose last name is Moore and generally goes by Matt, I am glad to see my namesake is stull active. And if he gets into a game at the MLB level he will break the 'tie' he has with the QB of the same name - both played their last games at the highest level at age 35, but the pitcher has a chance to get in a game at 37 years old.

Petey Baseball - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 02:59 PM EDT (#479282) #
1 through 9 the Jays look like such easy outs.
Nigel - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 03:41 PM EDT (#479283) #
Yeah, the hitting approach that was so good for a week seems to have disappeared en route to Chicago.

The difference between Lukes and Sanchez/Pinango defensively is massive.
Nigel - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 04:51 PM EDT (#479284) #
Great AB from Kirk
mathesond - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 04:59 PM EDT (#479285) #
Kaz!
lexomatic - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 05:20 PM EDT (#479286) #
I checked in and saw 0 hits for thr Jays & down 3-0 and checked out. Of course I checled just now and it's 8-6 Jays hesding into 9th.
Nigel - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 05:33 PM EDT (#479287) #
That feels like a huge win.
Leaside Cowboy - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 05:34 PM EDT (#479288) #
Varland is money.
Doom Service - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 05:35 PM EDT (#479289) #
Varland threw 28 pitches. Four were fastballs.
prospect - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 05:38 PM EDT (#479290) #
Great win! So nice to have a very good defense in the outfield out there today. Varland, as usual, is lights out.
Glevin - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 06:13 PM EDT (#479292) #
Feels like an important win but it isn't the first time I've felt that and the momentum just hasn't come.
June Northey - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 06:35 PM EDT (#479293) #
Excellent point Nigel. I'm wondering if the Jays might try to trade Pinango and/or Sanchez before the deadline. Both are useful hitters, but damn if their defense doesn't drive one batty. Lukes easily can take one slot, but the other corner can't be Straw 5 days of 7. So what is the best option? Addison Barger should return someday - no idea why it is taking this long for him to even reach a rehab outing - can't be good. His defense is WOW out there with that arm, his bat can be great, or at least solid. Santander has the bat, but his defense is at Sanchez/Pinango level. Clase in AAA has the speed but nothing else. Ideally we'd get Barger back and trade Sanchez for something (RH OF ideally, or part of a package for a solid top starter). Pinango can go back to AAA as he isn't getting as much playing time and his OPS in June is down to 731, not bad but not good either. With his glove it has to be 800+.
uglyone - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 06:55 PM EDT (#479294) #
Welcome, Luis Urias!
krose - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 07:12 PM EDT (#479295) #
Another right handed infielder. Is a bigger trade coming? Schneider to left field? Is Arias a better bet than Kasevich? So many questions.
Glevin - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 07:29 PM EDT (#479296) #
Urias has a career 109 WRC+ against LHP so I think the potential value there is obvious. Like his fit so much better than Sosa. apparently, Urias will be up with team which means I assume Pinango down for now. He's a useful player but Jays can't carry 3 DH-types.
June Northey - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 07:45 PM EDT (#479297) #
Not bad - Urias has hit 347/385/508 in the minors this year. 94 OPS+ in the majors. vs RHP: 223/326/364 vs LHP: 254/336/417 so should be a good mix/match at 2B with Clement going to SS vs LHP and Gimenez to the bench vs LHP. Only cost cash so that is almost always a good deal (as who cares about Rogers losing a big of cash). Basically fills the role that McAdoo had, that Schneider was headed towards, that Sosa had before getting 'hurt'. Bieber has been announced to be returning Monday so that is a hitter and pitcher slot needed. Most likely Piñango to AAA to learn what a glove is for (and to get actual playing time), and Lazaro Estrada to avoid needing to release a pitcher.
June Northey - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 07:58 PM EDT (#479298) #
krose - excellent question. The team is starting to become more solid.

C: Kirk/Valenzuela - a damn fine combo
1B: Vlad with Okamoto as backup now
2B: Clement vs RHP, Urías vs LHP, Schneider emergency backup
SS: Gimenez vs RHP, Clement vs LHP
3B: Okamoto with Urías as backup (plus Clement)
LF/RF: Lukes/Sanchez/Straw in some kind of mix with Schneider out there sometimes vs LHP
CF: Varsho with Lukes/Straw as his backups
DH: Springer (who might go to the OF at some point so a catcher or Vlad can DH).

That is 13 players. I'm assuming Pinango goes to AAA as I just don't see a role for him right now (horrid defense, bat slowing down a bit, not getting playing time). Next to go is probably Schneider (assuming he sticks and Pinango goes for Urias). IMO the challenge is either getting Sanchez back to form, or dumping him for a guy who can at least field and hopefully hit as well. His 110 wRC+ is nice but with his defense it isn't enough. Hard to figure out what OF is out there available in trade that the Jays could get to replace him though. The Giants RF Jung Hoo Lee would be nice (signed for 3 more years, but can opt out post 2027) with his 132 OPS+ and they are out of it, but would they trade him at a reasonable price - unlikely.
dalimon5 - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 08:07 PM EDT (#479299) #
Urías is just another transaction. Come on Ross, get us someone that moves the needle (and clears the glut).
electric carrot - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 08:43 PM EDT (#479300) #
If the Jays can win by 25 runs tomorrow we'll be .500 and a 0 run differential.
dalimon5 - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 08:59 PM EDT (#479301) #
Varland on pace to surpass 32 Saves, 120k and 80 ip with 0.89 era. Disgusting.
TamRa - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 10:49 PM EDT (#479302) #
Rosenthal talking about how the Jays are looking around for a RH hitting OF and so I called up the list again and, well, unless the Cubs decide to go ahead and ditch Suzuki (who's been an awful defender before this year) all I see is Casey Schmitt (played more left than anything this year) who may well be having the best year he'll ever have but he's got 3 years after this one.

Maybe you have to overpay some to jump the market, but you might could either use someone like Stanifer, or make room in the majrs by trading Sanchez and...someone like Bohrofen or Arias?

TamRa - Saturday, June 20 2026 @ 10:51 PM EDT (#479303) #
where's it coming from that Urias will join the Jays?

Seems like if it is it would be really transitory because if Pinango goes for Urias, Urias would surely go for Barger and he surely has enough service time to elect free agency should they try that.

I assume he's just depth at AAA.
Michael - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 12:41 AM EDT (#479304) #
Varland is really so incredibly good. Glad they didn't wait for the 9th for him.
TamRa - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 01:39 AM EDT (#479306) #
Bannon is the only beat guy on Bluesky who posted about it (last i checked) and he had this:

The #BlueJays have acquired infielder Luis Urias from the Diamondbacks for cash. He's on a milb contract and heading to Buffalo.

The 29 y/o owns a .707 OPS in 582 MLB games (2018-2025). Hitting .361 with a .939 OPS in AAA this year. Hits LHP well.

As I noted elsewhere:

It would be bizarre to do that (add him to the major league roster). Rationally he would replace Pinango but that's only Barger's spot being kept warm. When Barger is ready either Urias or Schneider must go BUT Urias has no options and he has enough MLB service to reject assignment and declare free agency. Why would you acquire a guy a create a situation such that you'll have to lose him in a week or two?

The only other implications are that they've lost faith in Schneider, or they have determined that Barger is actually not coming back any time soon.
mendocino - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 02:57 AM EDT (#479307) #
Mitch Bannon@MitchBannon

To clarify, as @bnicholsonsmith
reports, Urias is actually expected to join the MLB team as he had an upward mobility clause. Sorry Buffalo.
Petey Baseball - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 10:50 AM EDT (#479309) #
I think they have faith in Schneider’s bat to a certain extent, but do not like his defence at second. If they aren’t going to score as many runs, their defense has to be good to very good. Urias plays a good second base. So I’d say unless Schneider picks up his offense to the point where they can’t demote him, he’ll be dropped in favour of Urias.

Petey Baseball - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 11:08 AM EDT (#479311) #
I should clarify, he’ll be dropped once Barger returns unless he really hits because Urias plays a much better second base.
Mike Green - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 11:27 AM EDT (#479312) #
All the defensive metrics have Schneider as a better defender at second base than Urias over the last 4 years.  Urias was a better defender from 2019-21.  

I like the acquisition of Urias anyways.  Lukes is a better corner outfielder overall than Sanchez or Pinango, about as good offensively and a better defender.  Pinango should be sent down to make room for Urias.  When Barger returns perhaps after the All-Star break, the club can hopefully find a buyer for Sanchez.  

Keys HR yesterday with 2 outs in the bottom of the ninth in a tie game was a 110 mph, 410 foot blast to right-field against a left-handed pitcher.  This team could have an entirely different feel by August 1.  
uglyone - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 11:35 AM EDT (#479313) #
We definitely seem primed to make a bulk-for-impact-bat trade. Maybe even 2.

Lukes
Barger
Sanchez
Pinango
Schreck
Keys
Schneider
McAdoo
Harry
Kasevich

And some more similar guys excelling in AA at the moment could all be part of some quality packages for one or two fulltime impact bats.
Nigel - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 11:44 AM EDT (#479314) #
Agreed Mike. I’d rather have Schneider than Urias but it probably makes sense to have both as Schneider can play LF. Sanchez and Pinango are essentially the same player so one can go temporarily or permanently.
pooks137 - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 12:34 PM EDT (#479315) #

The Rivas acquisition is interesting. The Jays have been running without a true utility middle IF since they jettisoned both Leo Jimenez & Tyler Fitzgerald. Choosing instead to rely on tweener backup IF types like Davis Schneider, Charles McAdoo & Lenyn Sosa who were bat-first types & fairly limited on their positional flexibility.

It's not readily apparent though where Rivas fits in. He's apparently not able to cover SS competently at the MLB level, last playing there in 2022 & hardly starting there at AAA since.

His offensive profile at the MLB level is decent for a backup IF, clearing 20 HR one year & being a slightly below average IF bat if you squint.

He's also a RH hitter & doesn't seem to play the OF. So it's hard to see where he fits into the playing time rotation since he doesn’t address the vs LHP OF platoon glut. Realistically, the only platoon starts that make sense are covering 2B vs LHP where Clement slides over to SS while Gimenez sits.

One wonders if the FO is making a move since they know behind the scenes that Gimenez (wrist/shoulder/?legs) & Clement (hip) are more banged up than the beat reporters have been letting on.

Or perhaps an internal decision has been made to regularly sit Gimenez' borderline unplayable bat vs LHP.

scottt - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 01:25 PM EDT (#479316) #
Maybe they give Schneider some more time in Buffalo when they check what Urias can do?
dalimon5 - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 01:38 PM EDT (#479317) #
I predict that one of Barger or Valenzuela won't be on this team by the time August roles around. Those are two pieces that can likely get you something very good in return, especially if paired together or separately with pitching prospect(s).
hypobole - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 04:12 PM EDT (#479321) #
Quiz, if anyone interested. The past 20 years, from 2007 to present, only 2 players have 2500 hits. Who? (One active, one retired).
Mike Green - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 04:18 PM EDT (#479322) #
Freddie Freeman for the active one?
Mike Green - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 04:34 PM EDT (#479323) #
I rejected the correct answer for the retired one because I thought that he came up earlier than he did- I forgot which iteration of a certain team he was on, even if I can tell you the month he was called up. Sigh.
hypobole - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 04:54 PM EDT (#479324) #
Yeah Freeman, 2507 hits since coming up in 2010.
dalimon5 - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 05:46 PM EDT (#479325) #
Miggy Cabrera who played and hung around probably longer than he should have.
Eephus - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 05:47 PM EDT (#479326) #
Evan Longoria? (I’m going off of Mike’s hint about the month, as I do remember it being a big deal when TB called him up)
Eephus - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 05:49 PM EDT (#479327) #
Nevermind, Longoria didn’t even reach 2000. Carry on.
hypobole - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 07:59 PM EDT (#479328) #
It was Miggy.
hypobole - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 08:35 PM EDT (#479330) #
FWIW, the quiz came from here:

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/sunday-notes-george-lombard-jr-is-dialing-in-his-mindset-and-swing/

Some Jays content in there with some Louis Varland Q and A, and John and Pete not quite agreeing on Louis' best pitch.

Also later a bit on Dan and Ben Shulman.
dalimon5 - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 08:36 PM EDT (#479331) #
I thought it would have been Moggy and Ichiro
dalimon5 - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 08:37 PM EDT (#479333) #
I thought it would have been Moggy and Ichiro
June Northey - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 09:16 PM EDT (#479334) #
Just thinking about what the heck the Jays trade for mid-season. The pen is overflowing with quality, but a top flight setup man who can close might be nice to add in given Garcia looks like he is pretty toasty in rehab. An ace to join the rest of the rotation (Gausman-Cease-Yesavage-Bieber) to cut the odds of Corbin starting more or SWR or whoever might be a good idea but would be expensive. An OF would be nice but damn, who is out there that might be available who is good? 130+ wRC+ OF, there are 14. Soto is on a terrible Mets team but no way he is traded (168 wRC+), Mike Trout is on a bad LAA team and hitting well but is hurt (again) and doesn't want to leave LA (can't imagine any deal for him is possible). Casey Schmitt & Jung Hoo Lee are both hitting well for the Giants who are expected to dump soon. And that is it for guys who qualify for the batting title (ie: healthy and playing everyday). The Giants are the only 2 who catch me as slightly possible. Lee can opt out after 2027, signed through 2030 with an AAV sub $20 mil but is a BABIP god this year (352 vs 305 lifetime). Schmitt has a 135 wRC+ this year, but just 99 lifetime so who knows if it is an illusion or real? Making sub $1 mil this year so the Giants would ask a LOT for him. The Giants might want the Jays to eat a contract (Ray is overpaid for his 98 ERA+ for example, but pitchers are never cheap, Devers of course they'd LOVE to dump but no way the Jays take that on).
scottt - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 10:11 PM EDT (#479335) #
The problem in the playoffs is the wild card series and starting pitching doesn't really help there.

Another short series at the Trop would be horrible.

Next year is hard to predict with the CBA.
The Jays might not be able to spend over the winter.
Having controllable depth pieces in the system could be very important.

TamRa - Sunday, June 21 2026 @ 11:13 PM EDT (#479336) #
So now they're 20-15 (a pace for 93 wins over 162) from May 13, so I figured I'd see how the offense (where most of the problem earlier had been) has done over those 35 games.
(some samples could start earlier or later but this is specific to the winning)

Springer - .233/.331/.433/.764*
Lukes - .341/.393/.463/.857**
Vlad - .252/.344/.351/.695
Varsho - .267/.349/.480/.829
Okamoto -.212/.291/.415/.706***
Valenzuela - .289/.368/.474/.842
Sanchez - .333/.360/.519/.879
Clement - .288/.308/.480/.788
Gimenez - .214/.281/.320/.601

Kirk - .250/.318/.300/.618(6 games)
Schneider - .206/.250/.441/.691 (7 before, 7 after)
Pinango - .253 .304 .432 .736
Straw - .173/.246/.212/.457

*Springer came alive on 5/18. Since then he's hitting .257/.349/.477/.826

**Lukes came back on 5/25, 23 games and 90 PA since

***Kaz was in the midst of a slump. Since 5/27 he's hit .263/.345/.553/.897

Plug in the more recent sample for Springer and Kaz, and accept that Gimenez just can't be expected to hit, and the one sub-par sample here is Vlad. He's hit well over the last 4 games but that's a nonsensical sample. I mean, that's a fine offensive group overall. If Schneider is genuinely fixed, so much the better.


Question is - is this more reflective of the "real" Jays than the first 42 games? I think so. But I'm biased.
scottt - Monday, June 22 2026 @ 06:58 AM EDT (#479337) #
Gimenez might not hit but he's got 7 HR and 33 RBI--second on the team. He's also a good base runner. He can score from first and steal a base. He could be back to 30 SB this year.
dalimon5 - Monday, June 22 2026 @ 09:20 AM EDT (#479338) #
Nice list Tamra.
Glevin - Monday, June 22 2026 @ 11:39 AM EDT (#479340) #
The interesting thing about Jays trades is that they might be able to get what they need internally. If you look at biggest needs, they are RH OF or MI (and Schenider to MI) and top LH reliever. I wouldn't count on either by a long shot but it's possible Santander and Tidemann could fill those positions. We should see more by closer to deadline. I don't mind the Jays trading prospects, I think they actually should, I just want it to be difference makers (Buxton, Yordan, Skubal) rather than small upgrades.
92-93 - Monday, June 22 2026 @ 11:54 AM EDT (#479341) #
Is there actually talk of Alvarez being made available? Hard to believe with the Astros surging in a weak division. He's one of the 3 best hitters in baseball and a guy you empty the farm for.
Gerry - Monday, June 22 2026 @ 12:22 PM EDT (#479342) #
Lenyn Sosa is DH'ing today in the FCL. That would make him around a week away from...?
pooks137 - Monday, June 22 2026 @ 12:48 PM EDT (#479343) #
Gimenez might not hit but he's got 7 HR and 33 RBI--second on the team. He's also a good base runner. He can score from first and steal a base. He could be back to 30 SB this year.

From the games I watch, Gimenez is often slowly jogging/almost walking home on base hits with him on 3B and no anticipated play at the plate.

I don't get the sense that it's a lack of effort or bad baseball IQ. Gimenez's anemic bat means that he has to play hard diving for balls at SS. And he had the play at 1B where he dove headfirst a week or so ago and injured his wrist briefly, showing that he's not afraid to get dirty.

I suspect that Andres has been given a free pass/been instructed by the coaching staff not to run out routine plays because whatever leg injuries he's suffered over the last 18 months haven't & probably will never fully heal.

June Northey - Monday, June 22 2026 @ 01:22 PM EDT (#479344) #
Oh geez, I hope to god it is a week from being released or sent to someone else as part of a package for something, anything.

Speaking of which, I was looking at 2015 and how the Jays were not over 500 for good until July 30th, the day they traded for David Price, a day after getting Tulowitski. I could see them getting this years version of Price. But who could be this years Tulo? Best SS that might be available is good ol' Otto Lopez. Detroit sucks but they ain't stupid enough to trade McGonigle, same for Cincinnati with DeLaCruz. Others might help, but not enough to see the Jays do what they did in '15. So we just accept Gimenez/Clement at SS until Nimmala is ready (in '27 or '28).

OF is the obvious area to get better - yeah, we have Varsho in CF (solid), and decent/not wow in Sanchez/Lukes, great D no O from Straw, and Barger returning soon. But that is a lot of 'meh'. I want 'WOW'. Best on a non-contender is Soto with the Mets - uh, not happening. Casey Schmitt with the Giants is the best guy who is probably available but will be expensive (136 wRC+, lifetime 106, age 27, team control through 2029, making under $1 mil this year). I think I mentioned before I expect they'd want anyone trading for him to take on an ugly contract (cough - Devers - cough) which no sane team would do. Not sure where else the Jays can improve on offense. Vlad either will hit or won't - he ain't going anywhere. Okamoto is streaky so far, but has insane power. Kirk/Valenzuela is probably one of the best combos for offense and defense behind the plate. So SS/2B/OF are the only places and Clement is playing so well he has to be in the lineup as much as possible right now - him and Gimenez sharing SS while Clement also plays a lot at 2B makes a TON of sense. So the OF is it, and unless some team is willing to do a dumb deal it'll be hard to upgrade by enough there to be worth doing a trade. We'll see within a month or so I'm sure.

Right now I expect a top starter to take over #5 slot, and a top setup guy to help Varland/Rogers/Hoffman at the back of the pen, ideally a LHP.
dalimon5 - Monday, June 22 2026 @ 01:59 PM EDT (#479345) #
"Is there actually talk of Alvarez being made available? Hard to believe with the Astros surging in a weak division. He's one of the 3 best hitters in baseball and a guy you empty the farm for."

I think you answer the question. I don't think there's a realistic expectation only speculation, in which case the Astros would have to be far enough out of a playoff spot to entertain a massive farm-emptying trade proposal. I'd imagine a Parker, Tiedemann and Barger package would get their attention in the event they are willing to sell.
scottt - Monday, June 22 2026 @ 02:04 PM EDT (#479346) #
In 2015, the Yankees finished with 87 wins. The Orioles were second with 81.
The Yankees currently project to win about 96.


Tulo replaced Reyes. Reyes had a .708 OPS. Tulo delivered .697 in Toronto.
June Northey - Monday, June 22 2026 @ 02:19 PM EDT (#479347) #
scottt - true, but no question the feeling was that Tulo's defense/attitude jumped the Jays up while Reyes dragged them down. Reyes turning out to be a wife abuser later that year certainly helped seal the deal for how that deal would forevermore be viewed. There is a reason the Jays avoid scum like him now. So anyone who thinks there is a tiny chance that Aroldis Chapman will end up here - forget it. He is also a POS who they will never touch.

On July 30th after they got Price the Jays were 6 games back of the Yankees btw. KC had the best record in the AL 10 games up on the Jays. After that date the Jays outplayed the NYY by 12 games, KC by 8, Texas by 3 (they also got hot).

The question becomes how good is this team potentially and how much will the Jays be willing to spend to make them better? They've seen winning packs the park and gets very high TV ratings. So the profit incentive is there. But are the trade partners out there?
scottt - Monday, June 22 2026 @ 03:05 PM EDT (#479348) #
It goes beyond where the Astros stand. The have him for another 2 years and they will obviously try to be competitive next year.

They can do a Parker, Tiedemann, Barger deal in 2 years.
Lots of top teams are set at DH, so it's hard to see multiple teams fighting over him.

Skubal is the guy everyone will be after.
dalimon5 - Monday, June 22 2026 @ 03:34 PM EDT (#479349) #
Scott, I don't think there's any chance the Jays trade Barger, Parker and Tiedemann (which was only the centerpieces of a deal from me) for Alvarez in a contract year 2 years away...they would be giving all that talent up for 2 months of Alvarez. No chance.

Houston, if they ever entertained the idea of trading Alvarez it would have to be a Soto-esque return that would make their team better for years to come...some version of proposals where they end up with a CJ Abrams, Terrence Gore and more while they retool and get rid of bad contracts.

This would mean that the A's would have to play a lot better and the Ms as well, both currently not the case with the Astros still in the mix and only 3 back from the division. They're probably buyers right now but if they go into the middle of July 3-4 games out of a wild card spot then I can see them asking themselves how much of an overpay they could get for Alvarez. I don't think any one player is worth more than 2, 3 or 4 young stars ion the potential making...IF YOUR TEAM IS NOT COMPETITIVE ENOUGH for the remainder of your star players time there.

Trading Parker alone would be an overpay for Skubal. Last year the Padres traded their top SS prospect for FIVE years + of control of Mason Miller. There's no chance Skubal is worth anywhere near than without a signed contract extension as part of the deal.
scottt - Monday, June 22 2026 @ 04:17 PM EDT (#479350) #
Urias up, Pinango down.
mendocino - Monday, June 22 2026 @ 04:18 PM EDT (#479351) #
Blue Jays selected the contract of SS Luis Urías from Buffalo
optioned LF Yohendrick Piñango to Buffalo
scottt - Monday, June 22 2026 @ 04:19 PM EDT (#479352) #
Detroit is 9 games under .500.
Skubal will go to the best offer.
Every playoff team will have interest.
TamRa - Monday, June 22 2026 @ 10:12 PM EDT (#479364) #
I think I'd be seeing if the price is more reasonable on Casey Mize while other's try to trade half their top 10 for Skubal.

Or better yet go get Joe Ryan or Reid Detmers. I'm not against Skubal per se, but the price will end up being eyewatering.
(and yes, I'm the one who was rambling the other day about how very seldom they've traded prospects that end up being all-stars for their new team)
James W - Tuesday, June 23 2026 @ 09:45 AM EDT (#479368) #
CJ Abrams, Terrence Gore and more

Washington did get Abrams, MacKenzie Gore (no relation to pinch-running specialist Terrence), 2020 home run champ Luke Voit, and their best current player, James Wood in that Soto trade. The Padres return from the Yankees was much less whelming.
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