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In our final instalment, Leigh Sprague reviews the trades made by current GM J.P. Ricciardi.

Thanks to Leigh for a great week of reading.


Part Five : J.P. Ricciardi -- A New Hope
by Leigh Sprague


December 7, 2001
Toronto trades RP Billy Koch to Oakland for 3B Eric Hinske and SP Justin Miller.


Obtained:
Eric Hinske, two seasons in Toronto
Year  avg./obp./slg.  gms  rc  fld/rf
2002 .279/.365/.481 151 99 -/-
2003 .243/.329/.437 124 64 -/-

Still with Toronto as of January 16, 2004.

Justin Miller, one season in Toronto
Year  ip    w  l  era
2002 102.3 9 5 5.54

Still with Toronto as of January 16, 2004.

Traded Away:
Billy Koch, one season in Oakland
Year  ip    w  l  sv  era
2002 93.7 11 4 44 3.27

Traded to Chicago (AL) on December 3, 2002.

Synopsis: this was J.P. Ricciardi's first trade as the Jays' GM, and all he got was a Rookie of the Year. Hinske's defence has been a concern, but he is a hard-worker who should come around. His offence fell off a bit in 2003, but much of that is attributable to a broken hamate bone. Miller was injured in 2003, but could pitch in 2004 should something go awry with one or more of the Jays starters. Koch was decent as the A's closer in 2002, and then was traded to the White Sox for Keith Foulke, Mark Johnson and Joe Valentine. In 2003, Koch imploded for the White Sox, and Foulke was excellent for the A's. Valentine remains a top prospect. Foulke has since signed with the Red Sox, and Valentine was sent to the Reds in the Jose Guillen trade at the 2003 deadline. Guillen was unspectacular as a rent-a-player for the A's, and has since signed with the Angels. Verdict: a good trade, especially going forward.

December 10, 2001
Toronto trades SS Alex Gonzalez to Chicago (NL) for RP Felix Heredia and James Deschaine.


Obtained:
Felix Heredia, one season in Toronto
Year  ip    w  l  era
2002 52.3 1 2 3.61

Signed as a free agent with Cincinnati on January 11, 2003.

James Deschaine has not played in Toronto.

Traded Away:
Alex Gonzalez, two seasons in Chicago
Year  avg./obp./slg.  gms  rc  fld/rf
2002 .248/.312/.425 142 67 -/-
2003 .228/.295/.409 152 63 +/-

Still with Chicago as of January 16, 2004.

Synopsis: this was Ricciardi's second installment in his payroll-clearing plan. The Cubs paid Gonzalez a total of $10 million for 2002 and 2003 (combined), certainly more than is warranted by his two-year WARP (Wins Above Replacement Player) total of 9.5. Heredia was a good LOOGY for the Jays in 2002. Verdict: a good trade.

December 13, 2001
Toronto trades RP Paul Quantrill and SS Cesar Izturis to Los Angeles for SP Luke Prokopec and Chad Ricketts.


Obtained:
Luke Prokopec, one season in Toronto
Year  ip    w  l  era
2002 71.7 2 9 6.78

Now playing for Cincinnati.

Chad Ricketts has not played for Toronto.

Traded Away:
Paul Quantrill, two seasons in Los Angeles
Year  ip    w  l  sv  era
2002 76.7 5 4 1 2.70
2003 77.3 2 5 1 1.75

Signed as a free agent with New York (AL) on December 3, 2003.

Cesar Izturis, two seasons with Los Angeles
Year  avg./obp./slg.  gms  rc  fld/rf
2002 .232/.253/.303 135 34 +/-
2003 .251/.282/.315 158 49 +/-

Still with Los Angeles as of January 16, 2004.

Synopsis: oops. Prokopec did not work out (yet another pitcher with acute gopheritis failing at Skydome). Quantrill was fantastic in the Dodgers' bullpen for two seasons, but the Jays could not have afforded him, at over $6 million total for those two seasons (combined). I was surprised to see that Izturis has had a below average range factor for the past two seasons. That, combined with his career .270 on-base percentage, indicate nothing that should upset Jays' fans with regard to losing him. Verdict: a poor trade.

January 2, 2002
Toronto trades Mike Kremblas to Oakland for C Tom Wilson.


Obtained:
Tom Wilson, two seasons in Toronto
Year  avg./obp./slg.  gms  rc  fld/rf
2002 .257/.334/.385 96 33 -/-
2003 .258/.331/.391 96 33 nil/+

Claimed off waivers by San Diego on January 7, 2004.

Traded Away:
Mike Kremblas has not played in Oakland.

Synopsis: Wilson became a fan favourite as Toronto's backup catcher in 2002 and 2003. Wilson's 2002 and 2003 are very similar, and if the Padres choose to let him play (although that would necessitate an injury to Ramon Hernandez), he should be reasonably productive. Verdict: a good trade.

January 17, 2002
Toronto trades DH Brad Fullmer to Anaheim for SP Brian Cooper.


Obtained:
Brian Cooper, one season in Toronto
Year  ip   w  l  era
2002 8.3 0 1 14.04

Signed as a free agent with Chicago (AL) on January 27, 2003.

Traded Away:
Brad Fullmer, two seasons in Anaheim
Year  avg./obp./slg.  gms  rc  fld/rf
2002 .289/.357/.531 130 77 dh
2003 .306/.387/.500 63 39 dh

Signed as a free agent with Texas on December 10, 2003.

Synopsis: Fullmer's contract was a little rich for Blue Jay owner Ted Rogers' liking, as the designated hitter was slated to make $4 million in 2002. Cooper was somewhat of a bust, but this trade was a salary dump anyhow. Should Mark Teixeira falter or be needed in the outfield, Fullmer - who has had a couple years of great rate stats - could get some time at firstbase for the Rangers in 2004. Verdict: moderately disadvantageous.

May 26, 2002
Toronto trades RP Dan Plesac to Philadelphia for RP Cliff Politte.


Obtained:
Cliff Politte, two seasons in Toronto
Year  ip    w  l  sv  era
2002 57.3 1 3 1 3.61
2003 49.3 1 5 12 5.66

Signed as a free agent with Chicago (AL) on January 7, 2004.

Traded Away:
Dan Plesac, two seasons in Philadelphia
Year  ip    w  l  sv  era
2002 23 2 1 1 4.70
2003 33.3 2 1 2 2.70

Announced retirement on December 11, 2003.

Synopsis: Politte was great in the Jays bullpen in 2002, but fell apart in 2003 when handed the closer role upon Kelvim Escobar's return to the starting rotation. Plesac, who says that Toronto is his favourite city that he played in, gave the Phillies 56.3 innings before retiring. Politte was over $1 million cheaper in 2002 than Plesac, so perhaps that tips the scales. Verdict: a mildly advantageous trade.

July 1, 2002
Toronto trades OF Raul Mondesi to New York (AL) for P Scott Wiggins.


Obtained:
Scott Wiggins, one season in Toronto
Year  ip   w  l  era
2002 2.7 0 0 3.38


Traded Away:
Raul Mondesi, two seasons in New York
Year  avg./obp./slg.  gms  rc  fld/rf
2002 .241/.315/.430 71 36 -/-
2003 .258/.330/.471 98 55 +/+

Traded to Arizona on July 31, 2003.

Synopsis: regardless of what happens to Scott Wiggins, Ricciardi deserves to be bestowed with the Order of Canada for pulling this off. It was a pure salary trade, and the Jays were able to shed some (not all) of Mondesi's monster contract which saw him make $13 million in 2003. Verdict: great trade.

November 16, 2002
Toronto trades Chris Mowday and Michael Rouse to Oakland for SP Cory Lidle.


Obtained:
Cory Lidle, one season in Toronto
Year  ip     w  l  era
2003 192.7 12 15 5.75

Signed as a free agent with Cincinnati on December 29, 2003.

Traded Away:
Neither Mowday nor Rouse have played in Oakland.

Synopsis: Lidle was victimized by some bad luck in 2003; his peripherals were not terrible, 112 strikeouts, 60 walks and 24 homeruns. He did, however, lead the AL in runs allowed with 123. Lidle signed with Cincinnati on December 29, 2003, as we all wait patiently for the Batter's Box sponsorship of his baseball-reference.com page to expire on February 8, 2004. Less than a month to go. Verdict: a moderately poor trade.

December 15, 2002
Toronto, Oakland, Cincinnati and Arizona involved in a four-team trade. Toronto sends SS Felipe Lopez to Cincinnati. Cincinnati sends SP Elmer Dessens to Arizona. Arizona sends DH Erubiel Durazo to Oakland. Oakland sends SP Jason Arnold and OF John-Ford Griffin.


Obtained:
Neither Jason Arnold nor John-Ford Griffin have played in Toronto yet.

Traded Away (to Cincinnati):
Felipe Lopez, one season in Cincinnati
Year  avg./obp./slg.  gms  rc  fld/rf
2003 .213/.313/.299 59 18 -/-

Still with Cincinnati as of January 16, 2004.

Traded (from Cincinnati to Arizona):
Elmer Dessens, one season in Arizona
Year  ip    w  l  era
2003 175.7 8 8 5.07

Still with Arizona as of January 16, 2004.

Traded (from Arizona to Oakland):
Erubiel Durazo, one season in Oakland
Year  avg./obp./slg.  gms  rc  fld/rf
2003 .259/.374/.430 154 86 dh

Still with Oakland as of January 16, 2004.

Synopsis: J.P. and his buddy Billy Beane worked some magic on the Reds and D'Backs. Although Arnold's stock has fallen a little with his struggles at AAA Syracuse in 2003, Jays fans (including this one) are optimistic that he will contribute at the Major League level, and soon. Griffin is a good outfield prospect in a Jays organization that is loaded with them. Lopez and Dessens had poor seasons for Cincinnati and Arizona, respectively. Durazo was decent in Oakland, but the A's expected more power. Going forward, this trade looks good for all the parties except for Arizona, although they now have Richie Sexson at first base, so their fans will soon forget about Durazo. Cincinnati still has hope for Lopez, the Jays first round pick in the 1998 draft, and all that they lost was Dessens. The Jays like Arnold and JFG, and the A's like Durazo. Verdict: a good trade.

July 16, 2003
Toronto trades OF Shannon Stewart to Minnesota for OF Bobby Kielty.


Obtained:
Bobby Kielty, one season in Toronto
Year  avg./obp./slg.  gms  rc  fld/rf
2003 .233/.342/.376 62 23 +/-

Traded to Oakland on November 18, 2003.

Traded Away:
Shannon Stewart, one season in Minnesota
Year  avg./obp./slg.  gms  rc  fld/rf
2003 .322/.384/.470 65 48 +/+

Still with Minnesota as of January 16, 2004.

Synopsis: Kielty was not a Jay for long, having been subsequently traded for Ted Lilly. Kielty will best be remembered in Toronto for a fantastic tumbling-over-the-fence catch in rightfield at Fenway Park. Stewart was excellent for Minnesota, finishing fourth in one of the wackiest and baseless sets of MVP voting results ever. The Jays had no intention of re-signing Stewart, and they eventually parlayed Kielty into Lilly. Verdict: hurt in 2003, but beneficial going forward if Lilly is productive as a Jay.

November 18, 2003
Toronto trades OF Bobby Kielty to Oakland for SP Ted Lilly.


Synopsis: Lilly, who was arbitration eligible, signed a two-year, $5 million deal with the Jays on January 14, 2004. This trade should be good for the both sides, as the Jays were long on outfielders and short on starting pitching and the A's were long on pitching and short on offence.

December 14, 2003
Toronto, Colorado and Tampa Bay involved in a three-team trade. Toronto sends SP Mark Hendrickson to Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay sends SP Joe Kennedy to Colorado. Colorado sends RP Justin Speier to Toronto.


Synopsis: Speier (along with Kerry Ligtenberg, Terry Adams and Valerio de los Santos) was added to bolster the Jays' bullpen for 2004. Kennedy showed some promise in his first two seasons in Tampa Bay, but he seems to have suffered from a heavy innings load and fallen off a bit in 2004. Speier is an established relief pitcher, whose numbers should improve by moving from Coors Field to Skydome.
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Pistol - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 11:36 AM EST (#80085) #
FWIW - 12 JP trades so far, and only 3 players are in Toronto now, and 2 haven't yet played a game as a Jay.
_John Neary - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 11:59 AM EST (#80086) #
Pistol,

Yeah, but look at the balance sheet. Quantrill and Mondesi would have left to free agency anyway, and Plesac would have retired. Fullmer is good, and it would have been nice to get more from him, but whose job would you have wanted him to take? Delgado's or Phelps's? The Angels didn't offer him arbitration after 2002 and resigned him for a quarter of his old salary. He's in a pile with Catalanotto, David Ortiz, and a bunch of other guys who are good hitters but poor fielders and were available to any team that wanted them going into 2003. So I don't think the Jays really lost anything by trading him for Cooper.

Here's my list of guys who JP traded who wouldn't have been free agents (or non-tendered) yet and what we got in return for them. In other words, this is what the Jays have right now versus what they would have had right now had they not made the trades:

What we gave up What we have instead Verdict
Koch Hinske Good
Gonzalez $5M per year Good
Izturis Nothing Good, so far
Rouse Nothing Bad
FLop Arnold and Griffin Good
Hendrickson & Nin Speier Good
Gassner+draft picks* Lilly Good


[*the draft picks that the Jays would have had if they'd kept Stewart and he'd turned down arbitration, which isn't a sure thing]

Which in my mind works out to:

An up-and-down reliever, three bad (so far) shortstops, a replacement-level left-hander, two marginal pitching prospects, a pretty good middle-infield prospect, and a couple of draft picks

for

An above-average third baseman, a decent starting pitcher, a good reliever, an OK pitching prospect, a middling outfield prospect, and (roughly) $5 million, not counting all the money they saved before this year.

No contest, IMHO.

John
_John Neary - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 12:01 PM EST (#80087) #
Incidentally, Pistol, I should have said that I understand that you weren't dissing JP. I just wanted to point out that if none of those trades had been made:

1. Most of the players that wouldn't have been traded would be gone anyway.
2. The team would be a whole lot worse than it is now.
_Matthew E - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 12:27 PM EST (#80088) #
The Jays released Deschaine, right?
_S.K. - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 12:48 PM EST (#80089) #
Someone should refer that Chris Black guy from McMaster (from the Friday Roundup thread) to this excellent and succinct explanation of why he's an idiot.

Great job, Leigh... you've inspired me to try to write the Raptors version of this catalogue (I'm not completely copying you, I've been thinking about it for months) for Raptorblog.com. So, if that turns out to suck, everyone should know who to blame.
_Steve Z - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 01:01 PM EST (#80090) #
Great job Leigh! You might want to add PTBNL's Perry, Gassner, and Nin. Am I missing any?
_Steve Z - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 01:03 PM EST (#80091) #
Wasn't there a PTBNL in the Lilly/Kielty deal as well, or was it simply cash?
_Jordan - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 01:03 PM EST (#80092) #
Yup, Deschaine was released earlier this year. He was only a throw-in the salary dump, but he was still a disappointment.

Leigh, congratulations again on one of the finest pieces of independent research on the Blue Jays I've ever seen. Tremendous stuff.
_Ryan Day - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 01:13 PM EST (#80093) #
As I understand it, Griffin wasn't technically part of the Arizona/Cincinatti/Oakland trade; he was traded in a separate deal for a player to be named later, which turned to be Jason Perry. It was sort of an appendage to the big deal, though, so you could always just throw Perry into the deal.
Pistol - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 01:17 PM EST (#80094) #
Incidentally, Pistol, I should have said that I understand that you weren't dissing JP

Correct, I wouldn't want to have my ZLC membership revoked.

I just found it interesting that Hinske's the only player JP has traded for that's actually played a game in Toronto.

My intial thought was that the Jays are more likely to fill their holes through FA than trades. But given that they've been in salary dump mode for the most part prior to this year, you're not going to get a lot in return for players you are dumping.

However, now that the Jays have positioned themselves where they are more flexible with the payroll they can trade for players where they are adding money, like they did with Speier, Lilly & Lidle.

So I'm not really sure you can deduct anything from this.

What'll be interesting to see is the type of moves the team makes once they are contenders.
Pistol - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 01:19 PM EST (#80095) #
Wasn't there a PTBNL in the Lilly/Kielty deal as well, or was it simply cash?

It was an either a PTBNL or cash. If it was a PTBNL it hasn't been named yet.
Mike Green - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 01:20 PM EST (#80096) #
John, FLop for Felipe Lopez. Hadn't seen that before, but very clever.

It seems to me to be premature to evaluate players traded this off-season. As for Arnold and Griffin and Rouse, it also seems premature to evaluate them until they put on an ML uniform. Finally, I can't say that I agree with the evaluation of Izturis for nothing as a good trade. Izturis' salary is low, and he's a very fine defender. I'd rather have him than Chris Gomez.
_Steve Z - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 01:29 PM EST (#80097) #


I guess we're not counting Wilson, Kielty, Lidle, Politte, Heredia, Justin Miller, Prokopec, Cooper, and Wiggins.
_Steve Z - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 01:31 PM EST (#80098) #
I just found it interesting that Hinske's the only player JP has traded for that's actually played a game in Toronto.

I guess we're not counting Wilson, Kielty, Lidle, Politte, Heredia, Justin Miller, Prokopec, Cooper, and Wiggins.
Craig B - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 01:44 PM EST (#80099) #
Italics begone.

Anyway, Coach and Pistol said

Incidentally, Pistol, I should have said that I understand that you weren't dissing JP

Correct, I wouldn't want to have my ZLC membership revoked.


Bah, revoked. When he does dumb things, I'll diss him, like I have before. Like with the deal for Prokopec.
_Jonny German - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 01:56 PM EST (#80100) #
What'll be interesting to see is the type of moves the team makes once they are contenders.

Yes, exactly, and it'll aslso be interesting to see what sort of wheeler-dealer J.P. is now that it's "his" team. Most of his trades thus far have involved getting rid of a player making more than J.P. felt he was worth. Now Carlos is alone as a big-contract holdover from the previous regime (and I'm in the crowd that thinks it's ridiculous to suggest that Carlos will be traded). I'd call the trade of Kielty for Lilly the first true J.P. trade, in that he was giving up a player that he himself acquired.

It seems to me to be premature to evaluate players traded this off-season.

That may be why Leigh didn't pronounce verdicts on those trades. I think it goes without saying that the synopsis is "How it looks at this point", and that's perfectly legit.
Mike Green - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 02:08 PM EST (#80101) #
Jonny, when I wrote "it seems to me to be premature to evaluate players traded this off-season", I wasn't referring to Leigh's article but to the verdicts in John Neary's comment.

Cheers,

Mike G
_Paul D - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 02:11 PM EST (#80102) #
Leigh, great work.
And SK, I would be very interested in something like this on the Raptors. I am having a hard figuring out if GG is any good or not. I think I want them to hire Billy Beane.
:)
Pepper Moffatt - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 02:11 PM EST (#80103) #
http://economics.about.com
Cheers,

Mike G


You steal my first name, then you steal my closing line. No respect. No respect at all! :)

Cheers,

MIKE
_Jonny German - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 02:20 PM EST (#80104) #
I wasn't referring to Leigh's article but to the verdicts in John Neary's comment.

Sorry, my bad. But I agree with all of Neary's verdicts.

Why does anybody need a closing line?
_S.K. - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 02:27 PM EST (#80105) #
So people know the comment is over.

END TRANSMISSION
Craig B - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 03:08 PM EST (#80106) #
NO CARRIER
_Jeremy - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 03:09 PM EST (#80107) #
An excellent overall trade record, and a nice trip on memory lane. I'd be interested to see a similar recap of free agent signings, or first round draft picks; they can influence a team's direction as much as trades. IIRC, Gord made a few good free agent signings, both on a large(Clemens) and small(Grebeck) scale.
_Jay - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 03:22 PM EST (#80108) #
the felipe lopez trade is a very poor one..in my opinion....baseball america discussed arnold as a pitcher with AVERAGE stuff...not promising..griffin has good raw power but ranked lower than gross and rios...yet we give a young prospect with good great potential to succeed
_Jonny German - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 03:23 PM EST (#80109) #
Jeremy, Is your comment complete or is there more coming?

Over and out, Jonny.
_Jeremy - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 03:27 PM EST (#80110) #
Comment complete
Leigh - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 04:10 PM EST (#80111) #
the felipe lopez trade is a very poor one..in my opinion....baseball america discussed arnold as a pitcher with AVERAGE stuff...not promising..griffin has good raw power but ranked lower than gross and rios...yet we give a young prospect with good great potential to succeed

Jay, that is the nicest thing that anyone has said about FLop (thanks, John) is about a year and a half. JFG is rated lower than Gross and Rios? - the vast majority of OF prospects are rated below Gross and Rios, I think its tolerable.

I've always felt that Beane and Ricciardi really pulled one over on the Reds and D'Backs.
_sef - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 04:14 PM EST (#80112) #
just as some bauxites are especially eager to find out what rabbits J.P.'s gonna pull out of his hat once the team is in contention (for a wild card spot, at least), I'd like to know what his "strategery" (to quote Dubya) for the next couple of drafts will be: now that the minor leagues are well-stocked, will Ricciardi take a few more risks or stick with collegians...
Pistol - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 04:24 PM EST (#80113) #
I just found it interesting that Hinske's the only player JP has traded for that's actually played a game in Toronto.

I guess we're not counting Wilson, Kielty, Lidle, Politte, Heredia, Justin Miller, Prokopec, Cooper, and Wiggins.

To clarify, I meant there's just one player who is still with the team that's actually played for the Jays.
_Matthew E - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 04:37 PM EST (#80114) #
Oh, I thought you meant 'one position player'. Justin Miller's still around, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him surface again with the big club. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see him turn in a couple of 14-win seasons with the big club, or something on that order.
_Shane - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 04:49 PM EST (#80115) #
I guess we're not counting Wilson, Kielty, Lidle, Politte, Heredia, Justin Miller, Prokopec, Cooper, and Wiggins.

To clarify, I meant there's just one player who is still with the team that's actually played for the Jays.


Well the flip side of that since we're looking at the trades from every teams perspective: As of today, only Minnesota has any decent returns still playing for their club after said trades with Toronto (and that's only after having to sign the player to a 3yr/18 mil deal).

Koch/Foulke? Gone. Plesac? Gone. Fullmer? Gone. Gonzalez? They wished he were gone? Mondesi? 30 MLB clubs don't want.
_John Neary - Friday, January 30 2004 @ 04:58 PM EST (#80116) #
Wow, a whole bunch of things to respond to and/or comment on.

Ryan (#9): My bad on Perry.

Mike Green (#12): I most certainly did not invent the nickname "FLop," although I dearly wish that I had. And you're right that I was too flippant about Izturis; the same can probably be said about Lopez. I wouldn't want to let Izturis anywhere near a starting job at this point, but he's far from useless, so my verdict was wrong.

Incidentally, that four-way Oakland/Toronto/Cincy/Arizona trade stands out in my mind more for the all-around disappointment than for any single team's outcome. Every single one of the players involved (Arnold, Lopez, Dessens, Durazo) had a disappointing 2003. I'd agree that the A's and Jays did better than the Reds and D-Backs, but for every single one of those teams, the players they traded were worth more a year ago than the new players are today.

I agree that we can't assess the outcomes of all of those trades at this point, but we can make best estimates of each player's value going forward. And I think that by any reasonable assessment JP is wa ahead of the game.

Craig B (#15): I'm flattered that you confused me for Coach, but he never said "Incidentally, Pistol, I should have said that I understand that you weren't dissing JP." That was me.

Finally, Leigh, I don't think I've posted in any of these threads yet, but your articles have just been wonderful.
_Ben NS - Saturday, January 31 2004 @ 03:32 PM EST (#80117) #
Clearly, JP has done a great job first at steadying the Jays and then at pushing them forward. Nice job, Leigh, a fascinating summary. Any thoughts on other contenders for the title of "Best GM Since Fall'01"?
_Rob - Sunday, February 01 2004 @ 12:33 AM EST (#80118) #
Any thoughts on other contenders for the title of "Best GM Since Fall'01"?

I nominate Bill Bavasi.
_Tom Kidwell - Sunday, February 01 2004 @ 10:06 AM EST (#80119) #
Didn't JP state in a article that Flop was his next Miguel Tejada??
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