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Last night's game was sort of a very pleasant demonstration of Sod's Law. A more expansive version of Murphy's Law, it holds that as soon as you commit yourself to a statement, events will immediately demonstrate just how wrong you are.

Ted Lilly has driven me crazy this year. I don't think Frank Menechino is a particularly good ballplayer. I was convinced that blowing a wide variety of comebacks on Tuesday night would be the sort of setback that would lead to a letdown for the Jays. I thought Ken Macha's threatened fine for showing up early would lead to a bright-eyed, bushy-tailed A's team. I thought that Rod Black would be horrendous ... OK, so not everything went against expectations.

But even there, he was an entertaining kind of terrible, and I was pleasantly shocked by almost everything else. How 'bout those Jays?

Things that struck me:

* On the Sportscentre immediately before the game, Dan Shulman read the baseball-related Top Ten. I wept. Going from Shulman to Black is the baseball-televisual equivalent of Lucifer's expulsion from heaven.

* That said, Black's hilariously overblown pregame intros should be preserved for posterity. Our grandchildren would be the poorer for not getting to hear Rod, in full overly dramatic mode, saying things like "Miguel Batista loaded 'em up, and the A's unloaded on him." I'm alarmed to say that he's growing on me in a "William Shatner is so square he's hip" kind of way.

* Vernon Wells is strong. The double in the first was muscled all the way to the opposite field gap, and the homer in the eighth, of course, was crushed.

* Eric Hinske keeps looking like he's figured it out. His at bat in the second, when he doubled Zaun to third, was wonderful. He stayed back on a tough 2-2 pitch and hit a rocket over Mark Kotsay's head. It was exactly the sort of at-bat that keeps people hoping he's got it figured out. Then he went back to looking terrible for the rest of the evening. It's tough to watch, because nobody tries harder.

* Batting Alex Rios immediately before Frank Menechino produces about the biggest contrast in body types in the right-handed batter's box imaginable.

* Ted Lilly was good for six innings and otherworldly for one last night. That one, of course, was the fourth, when he made Eric Chavez, Bobby Kielty and Eric Byrnes look silly with great breaking stuff. In fact, so good was the breaking stuff-how often do you see a pitcher freeze three major league batters in a row? Such has been Lilly's season thus far that I was actually worried he'd fall back into the pattern he was in earlier of never going to the fastball. I shouldn't have worried -- he got Chavez again in the sixth on a high fastball that made Chavez look really, really awkward as he swung and missed.

* Scott Podsednik is the AL's last man? Talk about a Chicago-style election...

* I hate it when pitchers crouch on the mound immediately after the batter hits a fly ball, as Lilly did when Swisher flew out to the track in the fifth. It is second only to whirling around with a shocked facial expression on my list of Really Bad Signs.

* Russ Adams looked really good turning the two 4-6-3 double plays. I realize that the pivot is (a) the other way and (b) more difficult at second, but I couldn't help wishing that Gross was in the game other than Menechino when Adams turned that play in the fifth....

* Which was promptly followed by Menechino leading off the Jays' fifth with a double. Verbatim from my notes at the time: "Frank Menechino seems determined to make me look like an idiot."

* You know that question about what music you would choose to stride to the plate? A friend of mine goes for Europe's "Final Countdown." It might be a good idea if you were exclusively used as a late-inning pinch-hitter, but it would robably sound weird in the top of the fourth in a 5-2 game.

* I was very surprised to see Blanton come out for the sixth, after the way the Jays were hitting him in the fifth -- everything, even the outs, were hard-hit balls. That said, except for that one inning, Blanton pitched very well. The only hard-hit ball he gave up after getting whacked around in the fifth was a single in the seventh by ... Frank Menechino.

* Re: Rod Black thinking that the All-Star Game shouldn't determine home-field advantage for the World Series. I agree with Rod Black about something baseball related. Shoot me now.

* Black refers to Orlando Hudson being on "the lam." If so, he's not doing a very good job of running from the cops -- they've shown him on national TV repeatedly.

* In the seventh, Bobby Kielty leads off with a single lashed up the middle. I'm glad to see he's bounced back. Also, was his hair really that bright when he played for Toronto?

* Russ Adams looks very good turning another 4-6-3 to end the seventh, prompting another bout of wishing they'd try him at second...

* On companies sponsoring pitching changes: Isn't there a risk of your company being subconsciously associated with guys like Matt Whiteside?

* Eric Hinske is lucky he isn't a cricketer, or that HBP by Yabu in the eighth would show up in the boxscore the next day as "Hinske lbw b/Yabu."

* Verbatim from the notes: "The hobbits thing is fun, but I think Menechino and McDonald are more Merry and Pippin than Frodo and Sam." Menechino gets another hard-hit single. "I wonder if Menechino would hire me to think condescendingly of him at key moments."

* Ricardo Rincon: 0 IP, 1 R, 0 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 0 K, 1 WP, 4 pitches, 0 strikes, 4 balls. Tough night.

* After Johnson bloops a single off Ryan Glynn, I write "It's hard luck on Glynn -- he makes Wells look foolish on strike one." Then Glynn hangs a slider, and someone gets a souvenir. Attention Toronto Blue Jays: For a reasonable fee, I will watch your games and write notes like this one about your opponents all season long.

* Rod Black condescends to tell us that Reed Johnson entered as a defensive replacement several innings ago as the top of the ninth begins. Cue explosion on my couch. I don't want to sound too pompous here, and I realize that scoring games, as I do, is an increasingly unusual hobby, but would it be too much to ask that the broadcasters tell us who is in the game? It's bad enough when they won't tell you if a dropped ball on a tough play's been scored a hit or an error. Forgetting to mention a substitution? Sheesh.

* Finally, in the post-game interviews, it's good that Vernon is talking about winning a championship. Nuts, but good.

Anyway, those were my chief impressions of the game. What did everyone else think?

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Jordan - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 01:54 PM EDT (#121773) #
Here's my Media Roundup for the day:

--> Rashomon would approve of these duelling Game Summaries from MLB.

--> No 2B for Hill, says the Star. JP Ricciardi's concerns about an untrained Aaron Hill getting Gabe-Grossed at second base appear well-founded. The more interesting news from this report is that Corey Koskie is apparently now ahead of schedule and might return by the end of the month. That scenario provides two likely possibilities for the balance of the season:

(a) The Jays will rotate all their infielders/DHs (Hinske, Hudson, Adams, Hill, Koskie and Hillenbrand) through August and September, with Hinske the likeliest playing-time loser.

(b) The Jays will deal one or more of these players at the trading deadline in a package deal for a major arm or bat. While Ricciardi has publicly said Hillenbrand is not on the block, the fact is that anyone beyond Roy Halladay and Aaron Hill could go for the right price.

In either event, I expect that one of Adams or Hill will be given the opportunity to learn second base, perhaps in the off-season. If Hudson does go -- and published reports indicate the Jays are happily fielding inquiries -- one of those two players will replace him. A 2006 infield of Koskie (3B), Hill (SS) and Adams (2B) makes the most sense to me, but the Jays won't shift their two prize rookies to new positions mid-season.

--> Hudson hurts his hamstring, says the Sun, which details the cause of this unsettled infield. It should be noted that the O-Dog didn't tear his hammy on a home run trot: he was digging around first base at top speed, unsure of whether he'd hit a triple or a dinger to right center-field. Some of the media reports make it sound like the hamstring tore while Hudson was simply jogging round the basepaths. This story also indicates that while Ricky Romero joins the Auburn Doubledays today, he won't actually pitch for a couple of weeks yet. Moreover, the Jays intend to showcase him at Dunedin before the year is out, a sensible move that should help accelerate his development timetable for 2006.

--> Adams hits his groove, says the Sun. Aaron Hill isn't the only greenhorn Jays infielder who's going to get Rookie of the Year votes. As I noted in the Instant Replay thread, Adams is 10 for his last 23 with 3 doubles, a homer, 9 runs and 11 RBI in 6 games; I don't think it's entirely a coincidence that the Jays are averaging almost 8 runs per game in that stretch. Adams won't stay this hot, but his batting average is finally over .250 and I think it's going to keep rising till it settles in at around .270 or so. And it's looking pretty likely that the Blue Jays have found their leadoff hitter of the future.

--> The Red Sox are looking for bullpen help in light of Keith Foulke's troubles. With Foulke undergoing arthroscopic knee surgery and enduring whispers that his problems go deeper than that, Boston is planning to move Curt Schilling into the bullpen (and presumably the closer's role) for the time being, a move unpopular with Red Sox players like Johnny Damon, who apparently believes he has inherited Theo Epstein's job. Foulke has imploded before -- that's how the A's got him so cheap from the White Sox a few years back -- so this isn't entirely unexpected. But Foulke was, in many ways, the key to the Red Sox 2004 season: he settled a bullpen steeped in turmoil and gave the rest of the team confidence that leads would be protected. Look for the BoSox to acquire a closer solution from outside the organization -- Eddie Guardado is just one possibility. Blue Jays fans who see a sudden opportunity in the fractious AL East will take these developments as further indications that the Jays are far from out of it. But the Jays' fate lies in their own hands: the more games they win, the more seriously JP will burn up the phone lines.

Craig B - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 01:57 PM EDT (#121774) #
it's looking pretty likely that the Blue Jays have found their leadoff hitter of the future

Well, I know that "future leadoff hitter" has been stamped on Adams's forehead since Draft Day 2002, but I wonder if we might end up reconsidering that. Adams looks like a dandy left-handed pull hitter! What's more, he's a pretty good-sized guy who might well fill out - players generally do.

In 311 career major league plate appearances, Adams is slugging .463 (with an OBP of just .320) and has thirty extra-base hits and six stolen bases. 311 PA is about half a reasonably full season, and frankly if I have a guy who has an on-base average of .320, sixty extra-base hits and twelve steals, I don't think of him as a leadoff man - I think of him as an ideal #6 hitter. (Incidentally, not that I'd put a ton of weight on it, but Adams has hit brilliantly with runners in scoring position.)

Now, I don't necessarily think that a "run producer" is more valuable than a leadoff man (in fact, leadoff men are harder to find) but it does seem a shame to waste power like Russ Adams apparently has in the leadoff spot. His obvious preference to pull the ball in the air isn't an ideal leadoff hitter's trait, and I see a player (Alex Rios) in the lineup who does have superb leadoff potential, in the Bob Abreu mold (OK, maybe not as good as Abreu, but good nevertheless - but I'm still hoping for a Rondell White / Bob Abreu hybrid).

All along, many of us have been thinking of Adams as a future leadoff hitter and Rios as a #3 hitter. Could it be that their best roles are reversed? One likes to hook the ball into the corner, the other likes to bash the ball hard on the ground the other way. Seems like a match made in heaven! Let Rios concentrate on hitting .300 and using his superior speed, and let Adams feed on the inside pitch.

Craig B - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 02:01 PM EDT (#121775) #
Eric Hinske is lucky he isn't a cricketer, or that HBP by Yabu in the eighth would show up in the boxscore the next day as "Hinske lbw b/Yabu."

Hinske's indeed lucky he's not a cricketer - he's a miserable judge of "line".

I'm happy that your cricket reference allows me to revel in England's nine-wicket pummelling of Australia today and the fact that Canada qualified for the World Cup this afternoon thanks to a win over Papua New Guinea and a Scottish win over Holland. A great, great day for cricket.

MatO - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 02:06 PM EDT (#121776) #
Off topic, but I know we've had a couple of posters from the London (England) area. I hope that you, your friends and family are OK. Having been a recent visitor of your great city I can't imagine what the impact will be now and in the future on your ability to enjoy what it has to offer.
Mick Doherty - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 02:18 PM EDT (#121778) #
A Ricky Rincon sighting? That always prompts us to recall one of The Worst Trades of All Time:

November 18, 1998: Ricardo Rincon traded by the Pittsburgh Pirates to the Cleveland Indians for Brian Giles.
Flex - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 02:38 PM EDT (#121779) #
Well said, MatO. It would be great if our UK posters could give a shout to let us know they're okay.
david wang - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 02:59 PM EDT (#121780) #
What ever happened to BOS's Youkilis? I rememebr when he was the super-prospect but not he's back on teh bench behind Ortiz, Mueller, and Millar. He's not getting any playing time and if we can get him for something like Batista and Hinske, it'd help both teams.
Jacko - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 03:00 PM EDT (#121781) #
November 18, 1998: Ricardo Rincon traded by the Pittsburgh Pirates to the Cleveland Indians for Brian Giles.

Here are some other "Hart Gems":

(CLE) 1998 - Sean Casey for Dave Burba
(CLE) 2000 - Richie Sexson for Bob Wickman
(TEX) 2002 - Travis Hafner for Einar Diaz

That last one, depending on the length of Pronk's career, might end up being worse than the Giles/Rincon deal.

Mike Green - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 03:05 PM EDT (#121782) #
Those sound more like "Hart Throbs" to me.
PeterG - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 03:09 PM EDT (#121783) #
I don't know why posters keep suggesting that next year will see Adams move to 2nd with Hill at short when every utterance or hint from JP or other organizational types suggest it will be the opposite. Just this week JP has said that Adams will be the ss for a long time. He has also hinted that Hill's future is likely at 2nd. Journalists and broadcasters covering the team, both our own and visitors, talk as if it is a given that Hill is the 2b of the future - likely because they have been told that by someone in the Jays hierarchy.
Named For Hank - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 03:11 PM EDT (#121784) #
To re-address my complaint about Fox's baseball coverage, I have the Fox broadcast of the Mets - Nationals game on in the background, and three times now I have stood up from the computer to answer the phone. But the phone was not ringing; some statistic or other was being updated on the screen.

This post is over -- WHOOOOOOOOSH!

Fawaz - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 03:13 PM EDT (#121785) #
Nobody is suggesting that next year WILL see Adams at 2nd and Hill at SS, they're merely saying that it SHOULD happen.
Named For Hank - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 03:27 PM EDT (#121786) #
But the question is why are people saying that when the Jays have given what sounded to me like a good explanation of why they aren't going that way? Is there something I'm missing, or something that the Jays are missing in the relative evaluations of these two?
Fawaz - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 03:34 PM EDT (#121787) #
Hill has a cannon and Adams has left something to be desired with his throwing arm (except when someone's taking his legs out from under him; perhaps the 2B should consider charging at Adams whenever he makes a play!). Adams is improving and I have no real preference for either possibility. Of course, I'd be heartbroken if Hudson got dealt, so I'm not sure either scenario would make me happy :(
Jordan - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 03:52 PM EDT (#121788) #
Adams' strength is his range (especially to his left) and his instincts; his arm is only slightly above average at best. Hill has a powerful arm, quick reactions and decent range. Those two skill sets, to me, sound like the textbook definitions of a second baseman and shortstop, respectively.

It seems pretty clear that Adams and Hill are going to constitute Toronto's middle infield next season -- Koskie's not going anywhere with his contract, age and injury history, while Hudson is the Jays' most attractive tradeable asset (young, inexpensive, and flashy). Between Hill and Adams, why would you want the stronger arm at second base rather than shortstop?
King Ryan - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 03:56 PM EDT (#121789) #
I do not understand why either of them should play 2B in the future. Keep Hill at third where he's looked great. Keep Adams at short. Keep Hudson at second. Hillenbrand plays first, Koskie can be the Designated Hitter.

Hinske ---> Bench
Menechino ---> Bench
McDonald ---> Parking Lot

Simple.
King Rat - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 03:56 PM EDT (#121790) #
In addition to what Fawaz says, I'm not really sure that the front office has really given a reason for definitely committing to Adams at short and Hill at 2b. I'll agree, my wistful thought in the report aside, that a switch at this time in the season probably isn't a good idea, but the difference in arm strength between the two seems to me to be greater than any difference between them as fielders.
Pepper Moffatt - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 03:59 PM EDT (#121791) #
It seems pretty clear that Adams and Hill are going to constitute Toronto's middle infield next season -- Koskie's not going anywhere with his contract, age and injury history, while Hudson is the Jays' most attractive tradeable asset (young, inexpensive, and flashy). Between Hill and Adams, why would you want the stronger arm at second base rather than shortstop?

I'm not sure it's clear at all. There's no guarantee that the Jays will trade the O-Dog. Maybe Hill will be at 3rd next year, and two of Koskie/Hillenbrand/Hinske playing 1B/DH. It could happen.

Marc Hulet - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 04:08 PM EDT (#121794) #
People also have to remember that Koskie may not want to move to full-time designated hitter or even 1B. The last thing you want is another high-paid, miserable player.

Also, congrats to former Jay Scott Cassidy, who has finally made it back to the majors (with Boston).
david wang - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 04:10 PM EDT (#121795) #
Why doesn't Hinkse just get sent to the Bench for good and get 1-2 starts per week?

I think we've waited long enough for Hinske and it looks like he's going to be a .250 hitter with below average power the rest of his career.
Mike Green - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 04:11 PM EDT (#121796) #
And if it did, I'd be pretty happy. Well, actually, I'd be happier if Koskie stayed as first baseman, and the Jays found a big bat to be their DH next season.
Flex - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 04:15 PM EDT (#121797) #
One other reason Hill may not see third for a while is that he doesn't have a 3B power bat... yet. Three years from now, when Koskie's gone and Hill's, what, 27-28? Maybe we'll see him over there.
BCMike - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 04:17 PM EDT (#121798) #
Playing Hill at 3b and moving Koskie to first makes perfect sense. If there isn't a good deal for Hudson I think that is an ideal situation. As already mentioned, you can also keep Hillenbrand and have him platoon with Koskie between 1B and DH. Then all that's needed is that power hitting outfielder :)
King Ryan - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 04:18 PM EDT (#121799) #
According to Rosenthal, the Marlins are willing to trade Burnett for "a young starter, a quality reliever and left-handed hitting outfielder."

Trade Proposal!

David Bush, Miguel Batista, and Frank Catalanotto for AJ Burnett and Carlos Delgado. :P

Okay, so that's not quite fair.

Maybe if we throw in Purcey? Sigh. Come home, Carlos.
Jordan - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 04:21 PM EDT (#121800) #
Maybe Hill will be at 3rd next year, and two of Koskie/Hillenbrand/Hinske playing 1B/DH. It could happen.

It could indeed happen. All I'll say is that if the Jays open 2006 with either Hinske or Hillenbrand in the lineup, their off-season didn't go so well (and if both are there, it was a disaster).

The Jays rolled the dice with Hillenbrand and look great so far, but after a .390 April, his monthly averages have been .252, .266 and (so far in July) .238; his OBP has been inflated by 14 HBPs, already more than any of his previous single-season totals. As for Hinske, June really hurt him, and now he has to do a lot to save his job between now and September. The Jays should be planning a 2006 campaign without either of these guys in the lineup. Koskie is a superb defender at third who shouldn't be wasted at DH.

If Toronto can upgrade its offence significantly this winter without losing Hudson, more power to JP, and maybe Koskie will slide over to first. But the O-Dog is the team's most tradeable asset, and any major acquisition is going to exact a heavy price. And all I'm really saying is that if Hudson does go, Adams is a better fit at second base than Hill.

BCMike - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 04:22 PM EDT (#121801) #

One other reason Hill may not see third for a while is that he doesn't have a 3B power bat

I don't think that's a good reason at all. Put your players where they help the team the most, who cares if you have a 3B who doesn't fit the 'ideal' mold. Sorry but this type of positional stereotyping bothers me.

Marc Hulet - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 04:35 PM EDT (#121802) #
I'm willing to bet that whoever eventually signs A.J. Burnett to a long-term contract will be sorely disappointed when he breaks down after a year or two, much like Jaret Wright. Burnett was horribly abused by Florida early on in his career and has the list injury and DL time to prove it.
Mike Green - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 04:49 PM EDT (#121803) #
It's really hard to figure out who will be the most valuable trading asset, as last year's Podsednik-Lee trade illustrates. Looking at Podsednik after 2004, it's hard to see him as being that much better than Reed Johnson.:)

If I were Terry Ryan, I'd be really interested in Russ Adams. It's a subjective thing, depending on the potential trading partner.
Ducey - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 04:58 PM EDT (#121804) #
"Finally, in the post-game interviews, it's good that Vernon is talking about winning a championship. Nuts, but good."

Actually, he said "some kind of championship". I thought it was little strange.
Pistol - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 05:01 PM EDT (#121805) #
"One other reason Hill may not see third for a while is that he doesn't have a 3B power bat"

The median 3B has an .800 OPS this year.

Hill at this moment is at .898.
Flex - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 05:08 PM EDT (#121806) #
Good point. You raised me. I fold.
Thaskins - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 05:13 PM EDT (#121807) #
One thing I want to throw out there with all the O-Dawg, Hill, Adams talk is that Hill is 23, Adams 24 and O-Dawg is 27. The Dawg is not a spring pup. If he is going to, this should be the year he takes a big step forward with the bat. But so far he hasnt. I know he was starting to heat up and the injury came at a bad time but I really have not seen anything that makes me think he can be an offensive force. On the flip side, I still think hes young enough where a team would want to trade for him hoping he takes a step forward. Personally, I think hes at his peek for trade value. Id hate to see him go because I love his glove work, but a great glove with a bad bat reminds me a bit of Pokey Reese.
bird droppings - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 05:15 PM EDT (#121808) #
A report from London. I am alive and well. It took me three hours to walk to work today. Highgate to Hammersmith.

London was absolutely chaotic. Oddly enough I normally am on the underground at time of the explosions, however, I don't go through any of the stations that were hit. I had to work late the last night which meant I slept in this morning. Crazy.

On a happy note... I found baseball in the UK on television. Someone had mentioned to me this before... Channel Five plays games every Sunday late night. Go Braves!



Fawaz - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 05:20 PM EDT (#121809) #
I'm quite optimistic that the team will hit enough to do some damage next year even if it doesn't add a big bat. Of course, I'm convinced that Gross and Rios will hit so my judgement is suspect at best, but I can see the Jays fielding a team very similar offensively to the Twins in the outfield, better in the middle infield and at 3rd and worse off at 1st and behind the plate. The defence alone would be worth the price of admission. I'd like to Adams at short, Hudson at 2nd and Hill at DH/3rd/SS - There are enough at-bats to go around and Gibbons can play with match-ups without starting John McDonald. They would need some more starting pitching, and I hope that there's a miracle in free agency.

Of course, Gross might not hit (nor might he get a chance) and my whole dream goes to pot.
Jordan - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 05:30 PM EDT (#121810) #
Good to hear from you, b.d. -- thanks for the update! Isn't Andrew K in London as well?
R Billie - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 05:54 PM EDT (#121811) #
Batista for Youklis and Shoppach might make some sense but I'd rather not help Boston. Besides, Youlklis will have the same playing time problems once Koskie returns and you still have Hill and Hillenbrand as potential third basemen besides.

I don't think Boston will be interested in taking both Batista's salary through '06 and Hinske's salary through '07 anyway.
R Billie - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 06:01 PM EDT (#121812) #
Pokey Reese wishes he was O-Dog with the bat. Even if Hudson doesn't take a step forward and only does what he did the last two years offensively (which is likely given the roll he was on) that still makes him very valuable combined with his defence.

Guys that can make plays like he makes and be among the better hitting second baseman are worth a lot. He's never going to remind you of Robbie Alomar with the bat but he qualifies as a two-way player at his position. As long as he doesn't face too many lefty starters.
uglyone - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 06:08 PM EDT (#121813) #
but I can see the Jays fielding a team very similar offensively to the Twins

you see the Jays' offense getting WORSE next year?

Andrew K - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 06:09 PM EDT (#121814) #
Hello from England. Thanks for your concern. I'm sorry to post this late, but I was avoiding Battersbox until I had to chance to watch last night's game, not wanting to spoil it by knowing the result.

I'm in Oxford, and have no family living or working in central London. Everyone I know is fine.

Actually, regardless of how the media might report it, most people in the UK have been expecting something like this for a while. Londoners particularly had to deal with a lot of terrorist bombs during the Northern Ireland "troubles" and take it phlegmatically. We all have huge sympathy for anyone caught up in the attack, but the collective national attitude is to continue with normal life without too much fuss.
Jonny German - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 06:11 PM EDT (#121815) #
a great glove with a bad bat reminds me a bit of Pokey Reese.

And maybe you're remembering this coincidence - the Reds refused to include Reese in the trade for Ken Griffey Jr.

Named For Hank - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 06:25 PM EDT (#121816) #
Actually, he said "some kind of championship". I thought it was little strange.

I hope he's not thinking of the Tom Selleck Golden Mustache Invitational.

About the relative strengths of Adams's and Hill's arms: is that the only thing you pick a shortstop based on? Is it not possible that the Jays actually know about their relative arm strengths and have decided that Adams is the better shortstop candidate and that the Jays are also not blithering idiots?

I don't know how to determine who's better at short; I'd imagine that the Jays front office has more experience at it than most if not all of us here. I just don't buy that they're really, really stupid and can't see what everyone else thinks is blindingly obvious.

Magpie - Thursday, July 07 2005 @ 06:28 PM EDT (#121817) #
Very good to hear from b.d. and Andrew. Glad you and yours are unharmed. Brits may have enough experience with sort of crap to keep a stiff upper lip, but the rest of us are more or less seething with rage.
Skills - Friday, July 08 2005 @ 08:21 AM EDT (#121845) #
Hey Andrew K, where in Oxford do you live. I spent a semester studying there from Jan-April 2004.
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