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Monday, we'll see if Scott Wiggins or any other Blue Jays get claimed in the annual Rule 5 draft.'s Jonathan Mayo explains the rule in detail, but here's the nitty-gritty:

"A player who is 18 when he's signed can spend four seasons in an organization before he has to be protected. Anyone who is 19 or older must be protected after three years. Once past that time of service, a prospect must be put on the 40-man roster if his organization wants to keep him from being eligible for the Rule 5 draft.

On a different page, Mayo speculates on some of the possibilities to change organizations, including Jays' lefty Matt Ford (2.37 ERA in Dunedin.) In the third part of an interesting feature, he rates the 10 best Rule 5 pickups since 1990, including two that got away from Toronto (Jay Gibbons & Graeme Lloyd.) In one year, J.P. and his organization had the highest-rated amateur draft in baseball and made Mayo's "best" list, headed by Fernando Vina, with their first Rule 5 heist, Corey Thurman.

Will there be an encore? Marshall McDougall can play anywhere in the infield, and had a .486 SLG and .374 OBP in 300+ AB with Oakland's AA farm team before being traded to the Indians, so you know J.P. has a book on him. There are many available pitching prospects, including the Yankees' Adrian Hernandez and Mariners' lefty Craig Anderson, and there's an open spot on the roster. Hard to predict who the Jays might take, but why not roll the dice again? In Ricciardi we trust.
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_Jordan - Saturday, December 14 2002 @ 10:12 AM EST (#101269) #
McDougall does look very interesting, though other than him, I'm not sure I see a hitter that JP would want. The trouble with Rule 5 guys, of course, is that they normally sit on your bench all season long and their development stalls (DeWayne Wise, Exhibit A). That's why Thurman was a great choice: he could, and did, contribute meaningfully during the course of the season. As a result, I don't look too much at Class-A guys, on the theory that they're just not ready to do much in a major league game.

I can see a couple of other pitcher possibilities, though. Craig Anderson of the San Antonio Missions (Seattle AA) is intriguing: 7-7, 3.20 ERA and 143 H in 152 IP. Less attractive is his 64/94 BB/K ratio, which even in the Texas League can't be considered promising. The Altoona Curve's Justin Reid (Pitssburgh AA) did better at 28/108, with almost a hit an inning (151 in 153), but his 4.33 ERA might indicate some difficulty ahead, and the K/IP ratio isn't staggering. I may do some more digging later this weekend to see if anyone else crops up.
_R Billie - Saturday, December 14 2002 @ 12:25 PM EST (#101270) #
Adrian Hernandez (Yanks righty AAA)
Yes he's probably always been overated but outside of walks (and subsequently ERA) his ratios are quite decent although they've all taken a disastrous turn at the major league level in the past. 109 Ks in 109.1 ip in the minors does seem to indicate some talent. His hit and homerun rate looks acceptable too. He could just be another Loaiza but he may be the most experienced of the pitchers available.

Ryan Kibler (Rocks righty AA)
Ok his AA performance kind of sucked this year, but it's coming off a great year he had in '01 though a lot of that was at lower levels.
_Kent - Sunday, December 15 2002 @ 12:20 PM EST (#101271) #
Reds GM Jim Bowden said the other day (I can't find the quote, so I'm paraphrasing) that even though his team had never found an acorn worth keeping, they're going to keep shaking the Rule 5 tree. So will Toronto, as they're a solid 1-for-1 under current management.

The Jays, assuming no further improvements, have a 2003 bullpen anchored by Escobar and Politte, with Creek and Kershner from the south side and Tam as the "early" righty short man. There's room for a "long" man (multi-inning middle reliever, like Corey Thurman last year) and the versatility of the Jays' position players, plus the newly-acquired depth in AAA, makes carrying 12 pitchers a viable option. Call that twelfth guy what you will: "swing man" between the bullpen and emergency starter, or the out-of-fashion (derogatory?) "mopup man."

As much as I like McDougall, it would seem there's more upside in taking a pitcher. El Duquecito Hernandez has disappointed the Yankees and is 27 -- at least -- so I'm not recommending him, just pointing him out as an available "name." Don't forget that last year, Thurman was on the Royals' 40-man until they Rule-fived Ascencio; it showed impressive preparation and flexibility for Team Ricciardi to pounce on that mistake. In other words, who the Jays select tomorrow might not be anywhere on Mayo's list, but it's still fun to look for needles in AA haystacks.
Pistol - Sunday, December 15 2002 @ 05:33 PM EST (#101272) #
Actually, I remember reading a Rany column on the Royals that was worried about exposing Thurman to the draft before the rule 5 draft occured.
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