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Sick of the trade talk? We here at Da Box understand, so Scott Lucas and I have opened new threads. I won't speak for Lucas, ever, but no A-Rod discussion is allowed in my thread. Instead, let's return to unsubstantiated/gut-level predictions for some 2004 Blue Jays. No thinking or research required here (welcome to my world), just ol'-fashioned hunches.



Here's a sampling of Jays to think about:

1. Ted Lilly
2. Miguel Batista
3. Carlos Delgado
4. Josh Phelps
5. Josh Towers

Use any number or measure you want for these guys. For example, I've mentioned that I think Lilly will be more Cory Lidle than Mark Mulder. My specific unsubstantiated prediction for Lilly? Plus-5.00 E.R.A., good K/BB numbers, lots of bombs allowed, and 10-12 wins -- and lots of inconsistency. On what do I base this? Nothing.

It's an open forum, with no rules save one: no mention of third basemen who should be at SS allowed.
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_Shrike - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 02:17 PM EST (#77954) #
Josh Phelps will get 500 ABs and hit 30 homers. He'll whiff upwards of 150 times.
Craig B - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 02:23 PM EST (#77955) #
Whither Howie Clark?

I think Batista will pitch very well even though he may give up some homers. BOB is a tough park for pitchers, too. I'm thinking 15-16 wins.
_Matthew E - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 02:28 PM EST (#77956) #
I keep hearing these Lilly-Lidle comparisons. And I can't imagine there's much to base them on.

I suppose they do have a lot in common:
- both spent some time as Oakland's fourth starter
- both traded to Toronto
- last name is spelled L-I-_-L-_
- both righthanded, except for Lilly
- they're the same age, except Lidle is a few years older
- same strikeout rate, except Lilly's is higher

Anything else?
_Mick - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 02:32 PM EST (#77957) #
But, the thing about Rodrigu ...

urk ... urk ...

No, seriously, Gitz, A-Ro ...

gggghhhh ... gakkkk ....

But really, Alex is ...

Noooooooooo!!! Helpp meeeeeee!!!! I'm sorry JG! Itakeitall backkkkk ...
_Gwyn - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 02:41 PM EST (#77958) #
no mention of third basemen who should be at SS

what about SS' who should be at third ?
Pepper Moffatt - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 02:49 PM EST (#77959) #
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Reed Johnson will win the Moffatt Double Crown of leading the team in both hit-by-pitches and caught stealings.

Did you ever notice how getting hit by a pitch stung more after you got tagged out at second? :)

Cheers,

Mike
Pepper Moffatt - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 02:51 PM EST (#77960) #
http://economics.about.com
NOTE: The last Blue Jay to win the team Moffatt Double Crown was Shannon Stewart in 1998, who was plunked 15 times and tagged out 18 times.

Cheers,

Mike
_Paul D - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 02:52 PM EST (#77961) #
Chris Woodward and Orlande Hudson will provide average production at SS and 2B, and constently be looked at as the team's weak links.
_alsiem - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 03:05 PM EST (#77962) #
1. Ted Lilly
10 wins, gives up a lot of homers, ERA over 4 but not by much

2. Miguel Batista
15 wins, consistent i.e. no starts that last two innings 3.67 ERA

3. Carlos Delgado
34 HR, .290 95 RBI

4. Josh Phelps
I think that you lot know more about him from the minors than I saw last year. Lots of K's, doesn't look like he will ever hit for average but maybe 75 RBI's, mid 20's in the HR's .257 AVG.

5. Josh Towers
Who knows? Looked good against the AAA squads that were getting a look in September. I want to believe and say that he'll be nearly as good as Lilly.

I've run out of goat entrails to burn so that's the end of the predictions.
_Matthew E - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 03:08 PM EST (#77963) #
I'd be delighted to be proven wrong, but I expect Josh Towers to continue in the proud tradition set by former Toronto September-succeeders Brandon Lyon and Mark Hendrickson.
_Johnny Mack - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 03:09 PM EST (#77964) #
what about SS' who should be at third ?

Who would they be? I know of one who should be in left field.
_Dean - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 03:13 PM EST (#77965) #
I'm hoping the starting staff stays out of injury trouble. They are an improvement over last year when it appeared at times we only had a shot of winning every fifth day. At the same time I think their potential replacements at AAA are also a step up. I'm predicting roughly the same record as last year, with a slight improvement to close to 90 wins and a hopefully the losing streaks getting snapped a lot quicker.
_Johnny Mack - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 03:18 PM EST (#77966) #
Hinske -- 31 HR, .307/.401/.525, 15 SB, 112 R
Coach - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 03:35 PM EST (#77967) #
Hinske -- 31 HR, .307/.401/.525, 15 SB, 112 R

Music to my ears, Johnny. But all anyone will want to talk about are his errors.
_Steve R - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 03:39 PM EST (#77968) #
Am I the only one that didn't get Lost in Translation? What's wrong with me? :)
_BobG - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 03:41 PM EST (#77969) #
Offence: same runs-for productivity as last year, meaning near the top of the league. Delgado will not be as strong, but expect Wells, Phelps, Hinske to balance it out. Myers was a pleasant surprise last year, hope he repeats, but odds are against.
Defence: Hinske and Woodward need to prove they can do the job, overall, same or slightly better than last year.
Pitching: Look for Halladay to dominate again, Lopez to grow into the closer role, and overall the starters and relievers combined will cough up less games this year than last, meaning 5-10 more wins this year over last.
Standings: Jays will still finish third behind NYY & BOS.
Mike Green - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 03:46 PM EST (#77970) #
Although I still have concerns about Hinske's defence (range and DPs, not errors), let me pass on some good news. MGL at primer has done studies of the most effective baserunners. You'd think that they would be mostly speedsters, but Hinske comes out very, very well on MGL's measures.

My prediction is that after the All-Star break, Sparky and Cat will be platooning in left; Gabe Gross or Rios will be in right and Hinske will be hitting in the 2 hole.

Final statistics for Eric: .280/.380/.480, 105 runs scored. And I'm waiting for David Bush to come up so we can put that slingshot to good use.
_Stan - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 04:05 PM EST (#77971) #
Ted Lilly 9 wins
Miguel Batista 17 wins
Carlos Delgado .290 40 hrs 120 rbi's must get boring for him
Josh Phelps .275 30 hrs 110 rbi's Let him play all year
Josh Towers 12 wins

Big increase for Vernon Wells as he has yet to hit his peak

Myers .260 8 hr.

Hinske .280 30 hrs 75 rbi

Woodward .270 18 hrs.50 rbis

I expect big improvements both defensively and offensively from Hinske and Woodward. Their confidence level should be higher this year.
_NIck - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 04:31 PM EST (#77972) #
and just pulling numbers out of my...

Batista 18-6 3.40
Hinske 260/350/480
Delgado 290/400/610
Phelps 260/340/520
Lilly 12-7 3.90
Hentgen 7-13 5.30
Hudson 310/370/440
_Andrew Edwards - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 05:09 PM EST (#77973) #
Am I the only one that didn't get Lost in Translation? What's wrong with me? :)

You're a victim of hype. I saw it at the Film Festival, pre-hype, and really, really loved it. But it's a quiet, sweet movie, not a masterpiece. Now it's been effusively praised by everyone who saw it early and thus thought it was quiet and sweet. So people are going expecting a masterpiece. Which it's not.

I mean, cripes, it's only her second movie. Just let it be the simple thing that it is, and it's beautiful.
_Cristian - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 05:21 PM EST (#77974) #
Coppola's first movie 'The Virgin Suicides' was hyped far above what it deserved as well. I thoroughly enjoyed the book and was looking forward to seeing the movie but came away very disappointed. Every time there was a lull in the movie, my mind would recoil at the recurring memory of Sofia Coppola's horrible acting in Godfather III.
_Nigel - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 05:26 PM EST (#77975) #
On a positive note, I expect to see Hentgen put together a quietly efficient year with around 12 wins and a slightly above league average ERA. I expect a very Escobar like year out of Lilly. When looked at as a whole not a bad year, maybe 13-14 wins and a slightly better than league average ERA but with some real head scratchers thrown in for good measure.

On the negative side, I expect to see Myers return to earth with around a .250/.325/.400 year (still very solid in my books). Around mid-year the team will have to look to the minors for major league caliber corner outfielders due to a combination of injuries and lack of performance from F-Cat/Johnson and Werth. Finally, I expect that we will look back fondly on the "Wilson Years" as Kevin Cash struggles with a .210/.250/.350 line.

Nothing but pure speculation. Kind of fun too!
_Stan - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 05:30 PM EST (#77976) #
I saw "Lost In Translation" last week, after reading all the reviews of it and oscar nominations it received. I did not like it at all. I thought Bill Murray was just his usual self. If he wins an oscar for this film, there is no justice. Check out "Mystic River". Great performances from everybody.
_Shane - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 05:38 PM EST (#77977) #
Hinske -- 31 HR, .307/.401/.525, 15 SB, 112 R

Music to my ears, Johnny. But all anyone will want to talk about are his errors.

...Sparky and Cat will be platooning in left; Gabe Gross or Rios will be in right and Hinske will be hitting in the 2 hole.


Love it when Hinske's gettin' some love...and if Eric's actually hitting in the two hole for the bulk of the season, i'll probably start blowin' kisses. Love it.
_Roger Davis - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 05:40 PM EST (#77978) #
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The spankies CHANGED their pitching staff & this year's might be as good... maybe even a little better, BUT a NEW 40 year old with a history of injuries, and one GREAT pitcher coming off injury and a Cuban who has pitched 10 games in the majors... and might be great?????

Our beloved Jays will have 128 games started by BETTER pitchers than last year. Last year our NEW starters had 128 games with a lower batting average against than the guys they are replacing. ALSO over 300 innings in the bullpen will be an imporvement.

NOT JUST A MASSIVE CHANGE BUT A MASSIVE IMPROVEMENT IN OVER 100 GAMES! When all is said and done and we beat out the RSox for second and nip the spankies (I can't even bring myself to capitalize the "s") in the playoffs to go to the World Series.... we'll all be talking about the pitching, NOT JUST ME!

By the way, Hinske Mended, Phelps is Delgado, Delgado in free agent year, Wells is God only knows what... Gross, Rios, Quiroz The future is SO SO SWEET!!!! Who is this AROD guy?
_Donkit R.K. - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 06:12 PM EST (#77979) #
Unbridled optimism, we need more of that in and around Toronto. Good attendance would be welcome.
_Dr. Zarco - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 08:06 PM EST (#77980) #
Roger, I love it! Good squad this year that'll be better over the next few. An exciting time to be a Jays fan for sure. I also love the Hinske hype. I think he'll bounce back and help this lineup be incredibly productive. Whether the "improved on paper" pitching makes a significant difference will be the key to another third place finish and perhaps catching one of the big guys (that and an injury here or there to the AARPkees wouldn't hurt).

Gotta get my movie plug in too-The Last Samurai is AMAZING. Really. Even if you don't like Tom Cruise (he's nowhere near the best actor in that movie anyway). In some ways, it was kind of like rooting for the Jays...go watch it to understand...
_peteski - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 08:27 PM EST (#77981) #
"You're a victim of hype. I saw it at the Film Festival, pre-hype, and really, really loved it. But it's a quiet, sweet movie, not a masterpiece. Now it's been effusively praised by everyone who saw it early and thus thought it was quiet and sweet. So people are going expecting a masterpiece. Which it's not.

I mean, cripes, it's only her second movie. Just let it be the simple thing that it is, and it's beautiful.
"

Why is it not a masterpiece? (Actually, I don't really think it's a masterpiece, but it's certainly very good.) There is no reason a quiet and sweet movie can't be a masterpiece. It's actually nice to see a small movie (if a movie starring Bill Murray can be called small) about real people get some respect from audiences. I welcome all it's attention. A small "quiet and sweet" movie I highly recommend from a couple years back is You Can Count On Me with Matthew Broderick and Laura Linney. Seriously, it's great.
_peteski - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 08:34 PM EST (#77982) #
"I saw "Lost In Translation" last week, after reading all the reviews of it and oscar nominations it received. I did not like it at all. I thought Bill Murray was just his usual self. If he wins an oscar for this film, there is no justice. Check out "Mystic River". Great performances from everybody."

Bill Murray was mugging it up a little, but his performance in Lost In Translation is still far more understated than typical Bill Murray (which by the way is not really that bad). To me, it really felt like Murray hit all the right notes.

I agree completely, however, about Mystic River. Tim Robbins is one of my favourite actors and he gives an awesome performance. It's probably my favourite movie from last year with the possible exception of School of Rock. Awesome.
Thomas - Tuesday, February 17 2004 @ 10:27 PM EST (#77983) #
Bill Murray was very good in LiT, but I still think his best performance ever comes as Max Blume in Rushmore. Lost in Translation was a very good movie, and I quite enjoyed the slow story, and the fact it wasn't like 99% of romantic movies out there. It's got some very good performances, including Scarlett Johansson, and is a very touching tale about passing connections and lost love. It's one of my three favourite movies of the year, along with a couple of documentaries. I can't think of anything else that stands out right now.

I haven't seen Mystic River, but I can't imagine it living up to the book, which is very good.
_salamander - Wednesday, February 18 2004 @ 12:26 AM EST (#77984) #
Predictions:

88 wins.

Hinske, Wells, and Rios will have big years. That's right, A-Rios.

Delgado hits .274/.365/.545. He won't be traded, but doesn't get re-signed. JP finds cheap substitute for 1B.

Batista: 14 wins, 4.30 ERA
Lilly: 13 wins, 4.60 ERA
Hentgen: 13 wins, 4.90 ERA
Halladay: 18 wins, 3.50 ERA

Hudson gets traded.

Ligtenberg passable, but gets lit up more often than we'd like.
Speier rocks.
Adams, Kershner are respectable.
Aquilino: 15 saves, 3.00 ERA

Werth unable to break through.

Jays offense is decent, but falls a bit short because of the bottom of the order: Woodward, Cash, Hudson (Adams, Quiroz, Hill not ready until 2005).
_Matt - Wednesday, February 18 2004 @ 01:00 AM EST (#77985) #
I neglect to pull the actress' name from out of my hat here, but I liked Ghost World a lot more... Mystic River, when I got out of the theater I said twas the best flick of the year hands down...

Although... I am very very much looking forward to watching 'The Hanoi Hilton' which my gf gave me for valentines... Michael Moriarty is my fav actor EVER.... I even rented that piece of garbage 'Along Came a Spider' b/c I saw his name on the title and he turned out to have 2 lines... bastards....

Really the world cannot appreciate how great of an actor this man is.... And when I say world I mean Janet Reno... What a moron... How can you possibly lead to an actor of this magnitude becoming condemned to relative obscurity??? I did notice that mikey is in some new indy flicks, but I don't think we'll ever see him regain his prominence from law and order..... Aggghh.... but how can I possibnly make that assessment without him being back in the mainstream where he belongssss..... I sufffeeeerrrrr!!!!!!!

As for the jays... I think the laser that JP took to the tumourous portions of the team coupled with the promising portions that he used in the repairation process will yield the most exciting season in a decade. I see 95 wins, 15+ for Miguel, 12+ for Lilly, 15+ for Hentgen barring injury (oh yea I think he's back!!!) and 10 for Towers... but my Miss Cleo rental sphere still shows the birds of prey falling 2 gms out of the wildcard.

Inspired by the progress never seen along with the bevvy of budding young talent, Carlos signs at 8mil per so as to take this team to the top and see this through... Some things money can't buy
_Warse - Wednesday, February 18 2004 @ 02:32 AM EST (#77986) #
Congrats to everyone who's remained optimistic in light of what has (or, for the purposes of this thread, has not) happened in Gotham. Especially you, Roger!

Here's my predictions for our starting five:

Halladay - 19 wins, 3.05 ERA
Batista - 16 wins, 3.95 ERA
Lilly - 14 wins, 4.05 ERA
Hentgen - 12 wins, 4.50 ERA
Towers - 9 wins, 4.75 ERA
_peteski - Wednesday, February 18 2004 @ 03:28 AM EST (#77987) #
"I haven't seen Mystic River, but I can't imagine it living up to the book, which is very good."

I haven't read the book, and maybe the book is preferable to the film but that is no reason to criticize the film. I don't think it's fair to compare a film to a book. They're two completely different mediums. If you judge the film on its own merits and forget the book, I'm sure you'll love it.
_Jeremy - Wednesday, February 18 2004 @ 08:04 AM EST (#77988) #
Pat Hentgen's final start of the season (and possibly his career)



8.1 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 6 K, 95 pitches

He should've probably been left in but Tosca will go get him after the first batter so he can leave to a well-deserved standing O.
_Steve R - Wednesday, February 18 2004 @ 10:09 AM EST (#77989) #
I don't think it's just the hype. I really think Lost in Translation is a bad movie.
It does all the small things well, it has a funky style, it's well acted and looks good. But it has probably the worst story/plot of any movie I've seen this year. I mean, it's non-existent.
I can't believe that this movie is getting all the hype, while an actually sweet, brilliant movie like Big Fish is getting completely ignored.
_R Billie - Wednesday, February 18 2004 @ 10:21 AM EST (#77990) #
But it has probably the worst story/plot of any movie I've seen this year. I mean, it's non-existent.

You're making the assumption that all movies have to have a story or plot. Lost in Translation is a character driven movie, characters reacting and interacting in a situation. Just like Seinfeld was a show about nothing. I don't know if it's the best movie of 2003 but I liked it. For the record I liked Big Fish too but I don't think it was the best movie of 2003 either.
Lucas - Wednesday, February 18 2004 @ 11:27 AM EST (#77991) #
My computer (which doesn't need me at all, except to pay the electric bill) offers the following:

Lilly - 11 wins, 4.50 ERA
Batista - 14 wins, 3.75 ERA
Delgado - .285/.415/.555, 37 homers
Phelps - .280/.360/.500, 24 homers
Towers - 5.10 ERA, innings pitched = ???
_Steve R - Wednesday, February 18 2004 @ 02:20 PM EST (#77992) #
Billie, Seinfeld was not a show about nothing, no matter how many times they tell you that. It was a show about small little everyday things and life's interactions.

And yes, I'm making an assumption that a movie has to have a plot. I refuse to believe that you couldn't have improved this movie (or any movie) by adding a plot.

And I'm not saying that Big Fish is the best movie of the year, just comparing it to Lost in Translation.
_Matthew E - Wednesday, February 18 2004 @ 03:12 PM EST (#77993) #
I think Lost in Translation had a plot. I'm just having a hard time putting my finger on exactly what it was. Anyway, I thought it was a good movie. Not a masterpiece, but good.
_Johnny Mack - Wednesday, February 18 2004 @ 04:43 PM EST (#77994) #
Hinske -- 31 HR, .307/.401/.525, 15 SB, 112 R...

Music to my ears, Johnny. But all anyone will want to talk about are his errors...

...Love it when Hinske's gettin' some love...and if Eric's actually hitting in the two hole for the bulk of the season, i'll probably start blowin' kisses. Love it.


I'm surprised no one commented on the 401 -- it's been a while since I've been on that highway, being rooted to the Island for the last few years -- but I do think he'll be somewhere near that for OBP.

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I liked LIT. I saw it before the hype. I agree it's no masterpiece (how do say that about a work that's so fresh?), but it's a damn good movie.
Craig B - Wednesday, February 18 2004 @ 04:52 PM EST (#77995) #
You're making the assumption that all movies have to have a story or plot.

No story? No plot? Huh?

Look, it may not have much of a story, or plot, but it has to have something. Even documentaries have a story, or else it's just a bunch of random nonsense. Unless you're making Microcosmos or something (best stoner movie ever) if you have no plot or storyline you're just wanking.
_Johnny Mack - Wednesday, February 18 2004 @ 06:03 PM EST (#77996) #
The Story and the Plot: Lost Boy meets Lost Girl. They flirt with losing themselves in each other. But both are married to others and are not ready to cut their losses. Lost Boy is significantly older than Lost Girl and must think about 1) it's possible he's using her to regain what selfishness tells him are lost years 2) the possible years of lost experience for her if they decide they've found IT! Lost Girl is in new territory emotionally and geographically; young in marriage, not sure it's the real thing, or the current state of that marriage is merely growing pains.

---

Sweet without losing itself to sappyness, LIT is well-written, well-shot, and well-acted. Well done.
_peteski - Wednesday, February 18 2004 @ 09:18 PM EST (#77997) #
"Billie, Seinfeld was not a show about nothing, no matter how many times they tell you that. It was a show about small little everyday things and life's interactions."

You're right that Seinfeld was not a show about nothing despite that it often posed as such. However, Lost In Translation is certainly not a film about nothing even though it may seem like that at first glance. In this way the comparison to Seinfeld is quite apt.

"And yes, I'm making an assumption that a movie has to have a plot. I refuse to believe that you couldn't have improved this movie (or any movie) by adding a plot."

I actually had a discussion about this point with my friend just yesterday, and we both agreed that there are way too many movies with too much plot. Filmmakers don't really want to bother developing real characters. That takes too much effort for writers and too much effort for audiences to pay attention. Lost In Translation had two very real and fascinating characters and that was refreshing for me.

"And I'm not saying that Big Fish is the best movie of the year, just comparing it to Lost in Translation."

I like Big Fish a lot also. I am undecided about which of the two I like better.
_Steve R - Thursday, February 19 2004 @ 12:30 AM EST (#77998) #
Petewski - I don't want to put words into your mouth, but you're making it sound like a movie can't have a plot and character development. I think that if a movie goes too far to either extreme you're in trouble. And I definitely think that Lost went too far. I appreciate the responses though, although it's going to be impossible to convince me that it's a good movie.
_Pop Fly - Thursday, February 19 2004 @ 06:48 PM EST (#77999) #
This is fun. Does anyone else think that Terry Adams will wind up starting more than Towers? Josh pitches so carefully and is a treat to watch when everything is working, but the good times get interrupted by big bombs because he doesn't seem to have a pitch to go to with two strikes, and his velocity is nowhere enough to blow one past people.
Adams has started in the past with, as they say, mixed results. Anyway, let's just hope the first four stay healthy or there could be some long months ahead. I'd feel more comfortable if the Jays found someone to have in reserve. I was hoping for El Duque or someone like that, but he's gone now. (Guess where.)
Of course, if they score five or so runs a game, they'll be in most of them this year. And we shouldn't have to worry about the starter getting blasted early and looking down at Tam or Sturtze warming up and checking for tomorrow's matchup.
What's the word on Justin Miller and Pete Walker's current physical condition? Can we consider them for some starts?
Keep the faith.
_Andrew Edwards - Friday, February 20 2004 @ 11:10 AM EST (#78000) #
Is it just me, or has Jeter now gone from being overrated to being underrated?

Like, he's still an amazing SS. .324/.393./.450 is nothing to sneeze at from a SS, even a poor defensive one. Prospectus has him 5 or 6 wins above replacement in a full season.

I'd sure take him over Woodward.
Mike Green - Friday, February 20 2004 @ 11:27 AM EST (#78001) #
Andrew, .324/.393/.450 is good production from a left-fielder. I'd rather have Jeter out there than Reed Johnson or Frank Catalanotto. He could probably play centerfield or third base capably. If so, he'd be a very fine player obviously.

But, his defence by all measures at SS has been truly horrid over the last 3 years. As a shortstop, he's really not much better than Woodward- he gets an additional 30 singles per year, and then he gives back 20 or 25 of them on defence.
_R Billie - Sunday, February 22 2004 @ 08:55 AM EST (#78002) #
You also have to take into account that the Yankees will be paying Jeter more than ARod for the remainder of their contracts. Sure I'll Jeter long before Woodward or even Cat in left field as long as you give me the $18 million the Yanks are spending on him.

For the LIT discussion, I think others have more clearly made the points I tried to make. But let's face it, that movie wouldn't have been nearly as intriguing if Scarlett Johansson wasn't so hot. :) Bill Murray has also been one of my favourite actors, going all the way back to Ghostbusters and that summer camp comedy, Meatballs or whatever it was called.
_Ben NS - Monday, February 23 2004 @ 04:01 PM EST (#78003) #
I'm a big fan of Matthew E's comment up top, Lost in Translation and Josh Phelps's upcoming breakout year.
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