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Reader Phil asks I have a question on waivers in MLB. Say a player is put on waivers. The CBA says that if a player is released, then the team must pay him a termination fee, which during the season, is the balance of his contract. If that player is picked up, is the original team off the hook completely?



That's right. It's one of the reasons there are fewer waiver claims than there used to be, since teams are more hard-pressed to take on the size of contracts nowadays. When a player is claimed off waivers, his new team inherits his contract in its entirety; including all years, all salary obligations, any option rights, and any buyouts that a player may be due. This can be expensive, and it means that a player like Manny Ramirez (memorably, this past winter) can be slipped through waivers without being claimed.

You can always ask Craig about the CBA, and he'll try to give the right answer. E-mail me at craig@battersbox.ca.

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_Jonny German - Sunday, July 25 2004 @ 07:50 PM EDT (#48632) #
Craig,

Long-time reader, first-time asker. Love your work. I'll ask my question and then sign off and wait for your response.

When a player is called up from the minors mid-season, is he paid the major league minimum ($300K), or a pro-rated amount of this?

Jonny in K-Town.
_sweat - Sunday, July 25 2004 @ 08:00 PM EDT (#48633) #
Can a trade be worked out via the waiver wire? ie Carlos refuses to be traded, but a deal is sturck with the team that claims him, and the jays dont bother to pull him back etc.
second part: whats are the different types of waivers, and how do they work.
sweaty in k-town.
_NDG - Sunday, July 25 2004 @ 09:13 PM EDT (#48634) #
Could the Jays offer Delgado arbitration in order to continue to negotiate with him through the winter, but if no agreement is made, reject the arbitration decision win or lose? Wouldn't this make Delgado an unrestricted free agent without compensation, exactly as he would be if the Jays didn't offer him arbitration? I seem to remember this happenning to Pokey Reese a couple of years back and don't understand why more teams don't offer arbitration, and just walk away if they don't like the decision. I'm sure there's some kind of circumstance involved but don't know what it is, which is why I ask thou, oh wise one.
Craig B - Sunday, July 25 2004 @ 09:28 PM EDT (#48635) #
When a player is called up from the minors mid-season, is he paid the major league minimum ($300K), or a pro-rated amount of this?

He's paid the pro-rated amount once he's added to the 25-man roster or the major league disabled list.

Also, some minor leaguers are on major-league contracts, so their pay would not change. For example, if Carlos Delgado were to clear waivers and be sent to AAA, he would still be receiving his $18.5 million salary to thrill the fans in Syracuse.

Can a trade be worked out via the waiver wire? ie Carlos refuses to be traded, but a deal is sturck with the team that claims him, and the jays dont bother to pull him back etc.

All the time. This is often how trades get started, especially on or after the trade deadline... a player on team A is put on non-irrevocable waivers, and team B claims him, his team pulls him back, General Manager A calls General Manager B and says "you can have him if you let us have prospect C".

whats are the different types of waivers, and how do they work.

This question, and NDG's question, are a little more complex and I will deal with them in a future installment.
Craig B - Sunday, July 25 2004 @ 09:28 PM EDT (#48636) #
By the way, guys, say hello to the good folks of K-town for me.
_Jim - Sunday, July 25 2004 @ 09:43 PM EDT (#48637) #
Quick question about outrighting. IIRC, a player can be outrighted once by either a team or once in his career...

Does that player have to clear waivers to be outrighted, or can a player be outrighted once and not have to clear waivers? I believe that Brian Buchanan was outrighted by San Diego last week and I was just wondering exactly how that worked...
robertdudek - Sunday, July 25 2004 @ 09:51 PM EDT (#48638) #
In Delgado's case, his no-trade clause prevents him from being claimed on waivers by another team unless he approves of the deal.
robertdudek - Sunday, July 25 2004 @ 09:55 PM EDT (#48639) #
My understanding is that arbitration is binding - once the arbitrator makes a decision the contract is guaranteed. If a team releases the player, they are on the hook for that 1-year sum less whatever any new team pays him.

You can, however, non-tender an arbitration-eligible player: That player becomes a free-agent. The Jays did this with Jose Cruz a few years ago.
_Daryn - Monday, July 26 2004 @ 07:44 AM EDT (#48640) #
but if no agreement is made, reject the arbitration decision win or lose?
...
My understanding is that arbitration is binding - once the arbitrator makes a decision the contract is guaranteed.


You cannot reject an arbitrators decision... I think the team (and maybe the player) has the option of electing a 1 year or 2 year contract, but its always at least 1 year...
_MatO - Monday, July 26 2004 @ 09:51 AM EDT (#48641) #
I think NDG may be confused between NHL arbitration and MLB arbitration. I believe a team can walk away from an NHL arbitration decision which makes the player a free agent.
_mr predictor - Monday, July 26 2004 @ 04:39 PM EDT (#48642) #
Robert, are you suggesting that his no-trade clause prevents Carlos from being claimed on waivers or are you referring specifically to sweat's post and a waiver/trade arrangement?
robertdudek - Monday, July 26 2004 @ 04:59 PM EDT (#48643) #
My comment is in reference to Delgado's contract specifically. Other players' no trade clauses may not have the same restrictions as Delgado's. Then again, they may.
_Spicol - Monday, July 26 2004 @ 05:02 PM EDT (#48644) #
Great pics, Aaron. I like the Rios one especially...very good framing.
_Rob - Monday, July 26 2004 @ 05:08 PM EDT (#48645) #
I agree, Spicol. Wait...what are we talking about? :)
_Spicol - Monday, July 26 2004 @ 05:49 PM EDT (#48646) #
Well, yes, yes, to the untrained eye, I posted on the wrong thread. But to the eye that has brains, I'm making a point about marriage! For you see, marriage is a lot like an CBA provision on waiver claims.
_Cristian - Monday, July 26 2004 @ 06:35 PM EDT (#48647) #
Great recovery Spicol. However, if you don't start dishing the gossip I'm leaving here and enrolling in the 'how to eat an orange' class instead.
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