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Some Sunday-morning thoughts about baseball and the Yankees.

Disclaimer: While no one on the planet enjoys bashing the Yankees more than I do, the following isn't intended to serve as a criticism of George and Co. Well, at least mostly not. The same argument would apply if the Red Sox, the Dodgers, or the Jays were the team with the largest payroll.

Those of you who follow soccer know that most European leagues feature two or three star teams that are head and shoulders above the others in terms of results, expenses, and ambitions. Players from other teams tend to gravitate to these teams because they have a greater chance of winning, which only increases as players continue to gravitate to them. When a team becomes entrenched as successful, they don't even need to offer more money to sign the best players; often, the best players will even offer a discount to play there, since it's more fun to win than lose.

In baseball, no team has attempted this strategy in the free-agent era until now. The Yankees and the Red Sox both seem to have entirely given up on the idea of developing home-grown stars. The Yankees, in particular, have become a team of hired guns. Let's go around the Yankee diamond:

1B – Jason Giambi: expensive free agent (backed up by cheapo free agents Tony Clark and John Olerud)
2B – Miguel Cairo and Enrique Wilson: cheapo free agents, I think
SS – Derek Jeter: home-grown player re-signed to expensive free-agent contract
3B – A-Rod: expensive player acquired in trade
LF – Hideki Matsui: expensive free agent
CF – Bernie Williams: home-grown player re-signed to expensive free-agent contract (backed up by Kenny Lofton, moderately expensive free agent)
RF – Gary Sheffield: expensive free agent
C – Jorge Posada: home-grown player re-signed to expensive free-agent contract

As you can see, with the exception of second base, all the positions are manned by players signed for big bucks. (Steinbrenner is probably on the phone at least twice a day to Brian Cashman, asking him why the heck there isn't a name player at second, such as Alomar.) Three of the starters were homegrown, but had to be re-signed to huge contracts (the type of contracts that KC, for example, can't afford). The pitchers aren't any cheaper:

SP – Kevin Brown: expensive free agent
SP – Mike Mussina: expensive free agent
SP – Javier Vazquez: expensive player acquired in trade
SP – Jon Lieber: reasonably cheap free agent (I think)
SP – Esteban Loaiza: acquired in trade for expensive free agent
RP – Mariano Rivera: home-grown player re-signed to expensive free-agent contract
RP – Paul Quantrill: free agent
RP – Tom Gordon: free agent
RP – Tanyon Sturtze: just seeing if you're paying attention

For those of you keeping score at home, that's a total of 11 major and 7 minor free agents, plus Tanyon Sturtze. Most teams can't afford more than one or two major free agents.

What I'm wondering is this: can the Yankees keep this up? Most baseball watchers believe in the "success cycle" model of baseball team development. Eventually, the high salaries of expensive veterans outstrip the revenues coming in from ticket sales, merchandising, etc.; as the players age, the team eventually sinks under its own weight and is forced to rebuild, often from scratch. The Cleveland Indians are the classic example of this. But the Yankees appear to be trying to eliminate the success cycle: as one player ages, they just open their wallets again and haul in another one. (Out with Lofton; in with, presumably, Carlos Beltran.) Because they keep winning, they keep drawing fans, who keep bringing in revenue, and so on and so on.

And a new trend is starting to emerge: many players are starting to limit their free-agent options to two or three clubs, or are trying to demand to be traded to a team such as the Yankees. Roger Clemens did this a few years ago, and apparently Randy Johnson wasn't moved at the trade deadline because he insisted that it was the Yankees or nobody. If a team such as the Yankees continues to make the postseason on a regular basis, there may come a day where a player such as Johnson would be willing to grant the Yankees a discount to get a chance to play for a winning team. At that point, I contend, the economics and structure of the game would change.

One final point, slightly related: I claim that the norm in American League history is for the Yankees to win everything. There were the Ruth/Gehrig Yankees, the McCarthy/DiMaggio Yankees, the Stengel-era Yankees, the Bronx Zoo Yankees, and the George's Wallet Yankees. The only times the Yankees haven't won were (a) the 1964-75 CBS era, in which the Yankees were too cheap to spend, and (b) the Mattingly-era Yankees, in which Steinbrenner was too much of a loose cannon for the Yankees to contend.

Thoughts? Comments? Are the Jays doomed to third place (at best) forever?
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_Mylegacy - Sunday, August 08 2004 @ 12:27 PM EDT (#27627) #
Dave, I more or less agree with you.

I was pretty sure it was all over for the rest of us A.L. Easters last winter when the Spankies signed Sheffield. Curses!

Every day I get more convinced that the only realistic chance the Jays have (and Baltimore and TB) is for a BALANCED schedule so at least we have a level shot at the wild-card.

Go Jays!
Pistol - Sunday, August 08 2004 @ 12:53 PM EDT (#27628) #
So what was Kenny Williams thinking when he took on Contreras' contract?
_Dr. Zarco - Sunday, August 08 2004 @ 12:56 PM EDT (#27629) #
Unfortunately I don't see things changing from the financial perspective anytime soon. I know they'll have disastrous contracts of Jeter and Giambi still on the books in the next few years, but they simply have that much to spend.

My fears were confirmed yesterday when Charlie Steiner was on The Fan in the 5th and 6th. Jerry asked him "would the Yankees have been able to afford Randy Johnson?" Steiner went into this whole talk of how "the Yanks draw 50K even for a 'no-offense' but meaningless game in the middle of August when up by double digits," and how much revenue they are able to generate. So his short answer was "Uh, yeah," rather sarcastically implying Jerry should have known better and not asked.

So I fear the Yanks might avoid the normal downswing of a championship organization for some time to come-although it wouldn't seem this could last forever.
_Marc - Sunday, August 08 2004 @ 01:01 PM EDT (#27630) #
So what was Kenny Williams thinking when he took on Contreras' contract?

He wanted to lay to rest any doubts that he is the worst GM in the American League... But he'll always be the best baserunner at running over third base coaches.
_Mick - Sunday, August 08 2004 @ 01:08 PM EDT (#27631) #
Well, you knew I would chime in here.

First, let me say this -- about a year ago, another member of "the roster" sent me an e-mail and suggested I write an article for Da Box regarding whether or not it was any less "fun" to root for the Yankees because of the way they do business. I've been kicking that around for a while, but never could figure out a sensible way to explan that no, it's not any less fun to people, many of whom believe the Yankees are The Evil Empire. And that It's Just Not Fair.

I will tell you that being a Yankee fan is a birthright. That may sound hokey or even snobby, but how else do you explain my spending most of my growing up years in northwest Ohio, following the Reds and Tigers because they were on the radio, but always coming back to the Yankees? In a single sentence -- it was Dad's stories of watching DiMaggio.

Now, all that said, I've been prognosticating for awhile here on Da Box that the Yankees are in for a precipitous slide to challenge the Horace Clarke Era of the late 1960's. I think it's going to happen pretty fast, and all at once, though probably not for another two or three years.

The things that are happening in YankeeWorld now are a little scary to fans like me, those watching from a distance and not influenced by the back pages of the Post and the News, or by Mike and the Mad Dog on WFAN. Consider this ...

The farm system is barren, the worst it's been since at least 1989 or so. Sure, the lineup is high-priced, but acquisitions cost talent, not just money, and Nick Johnson, Brandon Claussen, Juan Rivera, Marcus Thames, Cristian Guzman, Eric Milton, D'Angelo Jiminez, Jason Arnold, John-Ford Griffin -- all gone. That's just off the top of my head. Oh, right, Alfonso Soriano is in the Dallas area, along with another blow-the-bank future star, Drew Henson.

The manager is looking to get out. The best Yankee manager since Ol' Case won't be in pinstripes in a year or two. How do you think Don Mattingly or Willie Randolph or -- whoever -- will handle the pressure of following a legend? That worked our pretty well for Johnny Keane, didn't it?

The general manager, by all accounts one of the best in the game, has been "outed" by his wife as dreaming of architecting a Red Sox World Series Championship, which means the clock is ticking on his tenure in New York.

The collection of mismatched All-Stars is reminiscent of the Steve Sax/Jesse Barfield/Mel Hall/Steve Kemp/Danny Tartabull mismanagement of the late 1980's. Oh, that team even had it's own blow-the-bank football-baseball player; guy named Deion Sanders. So look around the Yankee clubhouse. You've got a Gold Glove quality first baseman in Travis Lee. And a former All-Star first baseman in Tony Clark. And just signed another former All-Star first baseman in John Olerud. All because All-Star first baseman Jason Giambi is having health problems. So what happens in a couple of years when Jorge Posada needs to move to first base?

And that's nothing compared to the outfield, where Hideki Matsui is the youngest big name player patrolling near the monuments, and not to mention the team's best centerfielder -- playing in left so Bernie Williams and Kenny Lofton can split time wearing down range factor. And Ruben Sierra? C'mon. So everyone says, sure, sure, but Carlos Beltran will be out there next year. What makes you think so? Remember when it was a "mortal lock" that Greg Maddux would don pinstripes?

You have the best shortstop in the history of the game playing third base and the worst fielding shortstop of the past five years playing shortstop. You think there's not something fundamentally wrong with this club? Why does Torre glance longingly at the Exit sign? Because for the first time in his tenure, the inmates -- and that includes King George -- are running the asylum, as they did in the lovely Bronx Zoo days of Goose Gossage and Cliff Johnson beating the living hell out of each other in the shower. (I always wondered how that one got started.)

The Captain wants to play short, even though it's not in the best interest of the club? Done. The incumbent centerfielder wants to stay out there even though he's best suited to DH? Done. The when-if-healthy first baseman wants to stay there even though he's the fourth-best fielding first baseman on the team and the DH slot is open thanks to Bernie? Done.

Oh, and the pitching. Today's starting pitcher is Jon Lieber ... and with today's start, he will tie the no-longer-a-Yankee Jose Contreras for second on the team in starts. Kevin Brown, Mike Mussina and Orlando Hernandez combine to be more than a hundred years old. And, after Javier Vazquez, who's in line to replace them? Sam Marsonek? Brad Halsey? Alex Graman? Again, what makes anyone so sure that Randy Johnson or Johan Santana or whoever will eventually end up in pinstripes? And given the vagaries of pitching injuries, who's to say that'd be a good thing?

As for the bullpen, well, in case anyone hadn't noticed, the Most Important Yankee, Mariano Rivera, has looked decidedly human this year while Tom Gordon and Paul Quantrill are #2 and #3 in the A.L. in appearances ... behind the leader, Rivera. Think that will last long? And again, who's in line to replace these guys? Will the Yankees return to the halcyon days of overpaying for the privilege of watching guys like Steve Farr, Xavier Hernandez and Steve Howe close out ballgames?

Say what you want about the response always starting with "Sure, sure, but they'll just buy ... [fill in name of All-Star here]." That was the plan that led to Matt Nokes, Steve Balboni, Tim Leary and Andy Hawkins.

In two or three years, barring any John Hart-like moves from John Hart, it will be fun to watch the best infield in baseball win a World Series, as Mark Teixiera, Alfonso Soriano, Mike Young and Hank Blalock finally bring a title to Texas. Following the local teams is easy and it's nice to have the positive feeling in a community that wins for the first time, as the Stars did in 1999.

But I'll always have one eye peeled to the northeast, watching the fourth-place Yankees scream in the press at each other as the Boss bitterly complains about how the highest payroll in major league history can't guarantee anything any more, as Roy White replaces Don Mattingly replaces Willie Randolph as manager, only to have Randolph come back to replace White, and as -- okay, this is just me hoping here -- GM Grady Fuson starts the painstaking task of rebuilding the Yankee farm system.
_Dr. Zarco - Sunday, August 08 2004 @ 01:30 PM EDT (#27632) #
I sure hope you're right Mick.
_Jonny German - Sunday, August 08 2004 @ 01:43 PM EDT (#27633) #
Great rant, Mick. I'll be one of those quite enjoying watching the Yankees crumble, and having no sympathy whatsoever for them or their fans.

Tom Gordon and Paul Quantrill are #2 and #3 in the A.L. in appearances ... behind the leader, Rivera.

Yes, it's been very satisfying watching the Yankees in tight games recently calling on Sturtze, Proctor, Prinz. I guess $25M doesn't buy you quite as much bullpen as it used to...
Mike Green - Sunday, August 08 2004 @ 01:54 PM EDT (#27634) #
I more or less agree with Mick. The truly great Yankee dynasties have always depended on a combination of "purchasing" talent and developing it through the farm system. The current Yankee farm system (Japan and Cuba) will probably be unable to sustain the team to the same consistent degree as the Yankees of the 50s say.

I also think that the Indians look to be a very fine ballclub over the next 5 years or so, probably better than the Rangers.
_Cristian - Sunday, August 08 2004 @ 01:55 PM EDT (#27635) #
SP – Jon Lieber: reasonably cheap free agent (I think)

He may be reasonably cheap but remember the Yankees were the only team willing to throw over a million dollars last year knowing full well he wouldn't throw a pitch in the majors. They gave him money just to rehab, gambling that they'd get a return on investment this year? Could any other team have done this?
Thomas - Sunday, August 08 2004 @ 02:33 PM EDT (#27636) #
Great post Dave, and Mick's response was fair as well.

I would have to say that there is no comparison between the Yankees current salary structure, and the Blue Jays when they had the highest payrolls in the early 90s. There was never this degree of difference between the Jays and the other teams in the majors, and the Jays only brought in a couple of free agents to take them over the top. We did have the ability to keep our stars once they became stars, but players like Alomar, Carter and White were acquired in "baseball" trades, where money was not a leading factor.

This offseason will tell a lot. If Randy continues to insist upon the Yankees, and they acquire him for a measly package of prospects, things aren't as over as some would think. If Beltran is signed and Bernie is shuttled out of New York, or at least to the bench/DH, then things may remain the same. If Beltran ends up somewhere else (Dodger Blue?) and the FA acquisitions are limited, then we may have seen the peak for the Yankees for the next several years.

However, many thought this year was going to be the first in the downslide, and that Theo's Red Sox would take the division, and look at how that's playing out.
robertdudek - Sunday, August 08 2004 @ 02:44 PM EDT (#27637) #
Mick,

In 5 years you'll be able to repost your fine rant, changing the names and a few of the sentences.
_Jim - Sunday, August 08 2004 @ 02:56 PM EDT (#27638) #
Wilson was acquired by trade. I believe it was Damaso Marte they dealt for him.
robertdudek - Sunday, August 08 2004 @ 03:02 PM EDT (#27639) #
In fact, I recall very similar rants occuring on Baseball Primer three years ago.
_Mick - Sunday, August 08 2004 @ 03:29 PM EDT (#27640) #
In fact, I recall very similar rants occuring on Baseball Primer three years ago.

Then those rants would have been severely misplaced. In the 2000 World Series, the Yankee lineup included:

Original Yankees: Posada, Jeter, Williams, Ledee, Spencer, Leyritz (with Soriano on the way the next year); Yankees Acquired in "Baseball Trades" (talent for talent): T. Martinez, O'Neill, Justice, Knoblauch. The big free-agent mid-season acquisition, Mr. Canseco, didn't even make the post-season roster. The unnoticed, no-big-deal offseason free agent acquisition was Scott Brosius.

The pitching staff was anchored by original Yankees Pettitte, Rivera and Mendoza, along with international free agent Orlando Hernandez, trade-acquired Nelson and Clemens (I know, I know) and a melange of big-name free agents and trade acquisitions who didn't pan out, like Cone (4-14, 6.91), Gooden (4-2 in long relief), Neagle (7-7, ERA near 6, in exchange for then-prospects Eddie Yarnall and Drew Henson, among others) ... you get the idea.

In fact, the Yankees don't win those World Series they won without several GREAT trades, from a purely talent perspective:
- Roberto Kelly for O'Neill
- Sterling Hitchcock and Russ Davis for Martinez, Nelson AND Jim Mecir

In fact, that Tino deal might rank as one of the all-time heists in Yankee annals.

To be fair, looking back, there were bad deals -- Knoblauch for Milton, Guzman and Buchanan? Ick. Giving up Ledee -- who appeared to have much more value at the time -- AND Jake Westbrook AND Zach Day for David Justice? Double ick.

So there were good and bad deals. But they Yankees were parlaying talent for talent at the time, not buying up everything in sight, as they did in the late 1980's and as they appear to be trying to do now.
robertdudek - Sunday, August 08 2004 @ 03:48 PM EDT (#27641) #
I was referring to the imminent demise of the Yankees due to age and a weak farm system (circa - mid-2001), not the way they were built.
_Ron - Sunday, August 08 2004 @ 04:01 PM EDT (#27642) #
It's important to remember the aquisition of A-Rod and Vasquez was through trades and the players that were dealt (Soriano, Johnson, Rivera) where drafted and developed by the Yanks. They didn't buy those players.

I don't see the Yanks dipping and playing below .500 ball for a long time. George refuses to lose and because they play in the biggest market place they bring in the most revunue. Just from television and merchandise revunue alone, I'm sure they make more than other clubs from all their revunue streams. And like others have said because the Yanks always win players want to join the team.

I'm a Yanks fan (bigger Jays fan though)and of course excluding when they play the Jays I love it how the throw money around like it's nothing. As a fan I love a owner who injects money back into the team and doesn't pocket all the profits.

I know a lot of fans cry foul and say it's not fair, well the owners had a chance to make it a more level playing field when their was almost a lockout 3 years back and they got exposed as liars. If teams were losing so much money as they said they were they would have put in a hard cap or a luxury tax that is set as let's say 65 mil instead of the 105+ mil it is right now.

It will be interested to see if the NHL owners are bluffing or not.
_Mick - Sunday, August 08 2004 @ 04:13 PM EDT (#27643) #
I was referring to the imminent demise of the Yankees due to age and a weak farm system (circa - mid-2001), not the way they were built.

Well, that too was then likely the product of Yankee-hating and an overactive New York media looking for stories. Looking at the next seaon's (2002) roster, you had:

- A starting lineup where the only players older than 31 were Bernie Williams and Robin Ventura, with (presumably) Juan Rivera at 24 and Drew Henson at 22 on the way to replace them, with Bernie going to the bench and Giambi moving to DH as Nick Johnson took the 1B job. The projected Johnson-Soriano-Jeter-Henson infield wouldn't have anyone turn 30 for another two years and wouldn't have averaged 30 years old until 2008.
- A rotation featuring whose ace was an in-his-prime Mike Mussina (32) with Andy Pettitte (29) and Ted Lilly (26) then Jeff Weaver after the trade (25) ready to follow, with the "best left-handed pitching prospect since Ron Guidry," Brandon Claussen, on the horizon and still a year away from being dealt to the Reds.

I remember, very clearly, feeling that the Yankees were set for another six or seven years at the time. I no longer feel that way.
_Jim - Sunday, August 08 2004 @ 05:49 PM EDT (#27644) #
'Giving up Ledee -- who appeared to have much more value at the time -- AND Jake Westbrook AND Zach Day for David Justice? Double ick.'

Flags fly forever...... There is no title in 2000 without Justice.

'I was referring to the imminent demise of the Yankees due to age and a weak farm system (circa - mid-2001), not the way they were built.;

Well, they went from 4 titles in 5 years to none in the past three... as far as the Yankees are concerned that is a demise.

'It will be interested to see if the NHL owners are bluffing or not.'

I think the way that NHL front offices have handled the offseason so far - laying off staffers for example shows that they are *NOT* bluffing. I follow the financial aspect of the game more closely then the game on the ice (that's what happens when your team picks up and moves to North Carolina), and all signs point to at the very least the majority of the season being lost. It is going to be one of the more interesting sports labor situations,especially since I don't care if they play or not, and I don't have any emotional attachment to getting play started.
Dave Till - Sunday, August 08 2004 @ 08:56 PM EDT (#27645) #
Mick - thanks for providing such a detailed and thoughtful response to my post. (I was out all day, so I just saw this now.) What I like about Da Box is that people here try to generate more light than heat; on other boards, this would have turned into a flame war.

For any other team on the planet (even the Red Sox), the Yankees' approach in the past offseason would have been tantamount to suicide. You normally can't win by bringing in a posse of 35-year-old free agents; when they age and/or break down, you wind up with nothing except a huge wad of useless contracts.

But I suppose that you could win if you can just bring in a fresh batch every year. Like you, I think that's infeasible; however, since teams keep their financial data secret (and shuffle revenues around to plead poverty even when they're rich), I have no idea what payroll the Yankee franchise can realistically support. I suspect that we are about to find out.
_Greg - Monday, August 09 2004 @ 11:37 AM EDT (#27646) #
Just a quick correction Ron... Soriano wasn't drafted by the Yanks, he was also an expensive purchase....
_George and Comp - Friday, October 08 2004 @ 03:12 PM EDT (#27647) #
Soriano will go back to the Yankees as free agent. (Similar to the basketball deal when the Spurs traded Sean Elliot to Detroit for Dennis Rodman, and Elliot returned to San Antonio the next season.) I think that has been the plan all along. Soriano will go back to the Yanks as soon as the playoffs are over.
_George and Comp - Friday, October 08 2004 @ 03:12 PM EDT (#27648) #
Soriano will go back to the Yankees as free agent. (Similar to the basketball deal when the Spurs traded Sean Elliot to Detroit for Dennis Rodman, and Elliot returned to San Antonio the next season.) I think that has been the plan all along. Soriano will go back to the Yanks as soon as the playoffs are over.
_George and Comp - Friday, October 08 2004 @ 03:13 PM EDT (#27649) #
Soriano will go back to the Yankees as free agent. (Similar to the basketball deal when the Spurs traded Sean Elliot to Detroit for Dennis Rodman, and Elliot returned to San Antonio the next season.) I think that has been the plan all along. Soriano will go back to the Yanks as soon as the playoffs are over.
_George and Comp - Friday, October 08 2004 @ 03:13 PM EDT (#27650) #
Soriano will go back to the Yankees as free agent. (Similar to the basketball deal when the Spurs traded Sean Elliot to Detroit for Dennis Rodman, and Elliot returned to San Antonio the next season.) I think that has been the plan all along. Soriano will go back to the Yanks as soon as the playoffs are over.
_George and Comp - Friday, October 08 2004 @ 03:13 PM EDT (#27651) #
Soriano will go back to the Yankees as free agent. (Similar to the basketball deal when the Spurs traded Sean Elliot to Detroit for Dennis Rodman, and Elliot returned to San Antonio the next season.) I think that has been the plan all along. Soriano will go back to the Yanks as soon as the playoffs are over.
_George and Comp - Friday, October 08 2004 @ 03:13 PM EDT (#27652) #
Soriano will go back to the Yankees as free agent. (Similar to the basketball deal when the Spurs traded Sean Elliot to Detroit for Dennis Rodman, and Elliot returned to San Antonio the next season.) I think that has been the plan all along. Soriano will go back to the Yanks as soon as the playoffs are over.
_George and Comp - Friday, October 08 2004 @ 03:13 PM EDT (#27653) #
Soriano will go back to the Yankees as free agent. (Similar to the basketball deal when the Spurs traded Sean Elliot to Detroit for Dennis Rodman, and Elliot returned to San Antonio the next season.) I think that has been the plan all along. Soriano will go back to the Yanks as soon as the playoffs are over.
_George and Comp - Friday, October 08 2004 @ 03:13 PM EDT (#27654) #
Soriano will go back to the Yankees as free agent. (Similar to the basketball deal when the Spurs traded Sean Elliot to Detroit for Dennis Rodman, and Elliot returned to San Antonio the next season.) I think that has been the plan all along. Soriano will go back to the Yanks as soon as the playoffs are over.
_George and Comp - Friday, October 08 2004 @ 03:13 PM EDT (#27655) #
Soriano will go back to the Yankees as free agent. (Similar to the basketball deal when the Spurs traded Sean Elliot to Detroit for Dennis Rodman, and Elliot returned to San Antonio the next season.) I think that has been the plan all along. Soriano will go back to the Yanks as soon as the playoffs are over.
_George and Comp - Friday, October 08 2004 @ 03:13 PM EDT (#27656) #
Soriano will go back to the Yankees as free agent. (Similar to the basketball deal when the Spurs traded Sean Elliot to Detroit for Dennis Rodman, and Elliot returned to San Antonio the next season.) I think that has been the plan all along. Soriano will go back to the Yanks as soon as the playoffs are over.
_George and Comp - Friday, October 08 2004 @ 03:13 PM EDT (#27657) #
Soriano will go back to the Yankees as free agent. (Similar to the basketball deal when the Spurs traded Sean Elliot to Detroit for Dennis Rodman, and Elliot returned to San Antonio the next season.) I think that has been the plan all along. Soriano will go back to the Yanks as soon as the playoffs are over.
_George and Comp - Friday, October 08 2004 @ 03:13 PM EDT (#27658) #
Soriano will go back to the Yankees as free agent. (Similar to the basketball deal when the Spurs traded Sean Elliot to Detroit for Dennis Rodman, and Elliot returned to San Antonio the next season.) I think that has been the plan all along. Soriano will go back to the Yanks as soon as the playoffs are over.
_Mick - Friday, October 08 2004 @ 04:41 PM EDT (#27659) #
George, I realize you feel strongly about this, given you posted it 12 times, but frankly, I hope you're wrong. As a 2B, Sori is sorry ... a fine DH in the making and the Yanks have plenty of those. Presuming Giambi is healthy next year -- not a sure thing -- you can't afford to have Sori and JG on the left side of the infield or anything hit between them will roll all the way to Sheff. Keep Cairo at 2B until one of the kids is ready.

Incidentally, Sori is not eligible for free agency, though it's true the Rangers are looking to trade him. The current rumour is Sori and the Ho to Wrigley for Sammy Sosa II: The Texas Two-Step Return.

If the Cubs will make that deal, the Rangers should jump on it, just to dump Park.
_Mick - Friday, October 08 2004 @ 04:57 PM EDT (#27660) #
I meant "right side of the infield," of course ... though Soriano came up as a SS and Giambi as a 3B, that would be scary.
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