It's not really E______ L_____'s fault that Bauxites now regard him as a figure of Voldemortesque proportions. L_____'s tenure in Toronto may have ended poorly, with the Jays reportedly happy to clear him from the clubhouse, visions of Mike Young perhaps fresh in their minds. But L_____, winner of the inaugural Batter's Box Andujar Award, hasn't really said anything nasty about the franchise, and credited his Toronto pitching coach for teaching him (a little late) the cutter that made him a Cy Young candidate in Chicago last year. But 2004 has been another story for E______, whose Yankee ERA now stands at a sterling 7.08 and who is in danger of falling from the patchwork Yankee rotation. There would be few greater pleasures for the Blue Jays than to be the team that knocks L_____ into the bullpen; behind the stylings of The Illustrated Man, Justin Miller, they'll try to do that tonight. A pitcher's duel, this does not shape up to be; look for a lot of runs and a lot of bullpen activity tonight.
Four words: Listen for the horns.
And your Monty Python quote for today, directed at the Yankees - "And if you thought you got a nasty taunting this time, you ain't heard nothing yet, dappy [american] k-nnnnnnniggets!"
And your Monty Python quote for today, directed at the Yankees - "And if you thought you got a nasty taunting this time, you ain't heard nothing yet, dappy [american] k-nnnnnnniggets!"
I think most are at the Dome, tooting their horns. :)
Gabe Gross with his first career SB. Here's hoping the top of the lineup can cash it in.
Gabe Gross with his first career SB. Here's hoping the top of the lineup can cash it in.
Damn you Kenny Lofton!!!
Anybody read lips? I wonder what Carlos said to he who can't be named.
Anybody read lips? I wonder what Carlos said to he who can't be named.
I love seeing this:
Thank you, CBS Sportsline. That's the best anything I've seen all day.
Yankees
Pitcher IP PC H ER BB K
Loaiza 4.0 74 5 3 4 0
Bullpen
Sturtze
Thank you, CBS Sportsline. That's the best anything I've seen all day.
I think Big Cecil is on the FAN right now. They referenced his son Prince, so it must be him or The Father Of The Artist Formerly Known As Prince.
Sorry, I've been sore all year. That throw will be even better next season.
It's okay, GGA. I'm just glad you posted and not another part of his body.
Will Gabe's man-strength make you stronger next year?
Will Gabe's man-strength make you stronger next year?
Pre-injury: 4.21 ERA, 40.2 IP, 45 H, 14 BB, 32 K, 5 HR
Post-injury: 7.30 ERA, 22.2 IP, 31 H, 19 BB, 6 K, 6 HR
What the heck happened to Justin Miller?
Post-injury: 7.30 ERA, 22.2 IP, 31 H, 19 BB, 6 K, 6 HR
What the heck happened to Justin Miller?
Estefluke Loseria is taken out of the game. 4 and a third innings and at least 4 earned runs for Mr. Fluke (his baserunner is still on).
Tenrun (it)Sturtze(to watch him) is in the game.
Darn, DP.
Tenrun (it)Sturtze(to watch him) is in the game.
Darn, DP.
10 walks in 6 2/3's not good. How you expect to beat the Yankees doing that I'm not really sure. Oh well.
Da King has been really swinging the power bat ever since he left the DL.
With all the illustrious alumni in town, the greatest of them all is going to have a big weekend.
You're right, mistermike, he's been an absolute stiff for 11 years. He certainly doesn't deserve support or appreciation.
Oh yeah, Carlos rules. He's also hitting .240.
And we wonder why people say Toronto is a lousy sports town.
And we wonder why people say Toronto is a lousy sports town.
Not much for comments today. whats a poor guy at work to do, battersbox and espns gamecast didn't come through.
I propose we all shower Carlos with trash from the upper deck during every home-at-bat. That no good loser is barely hitting over his weight. :)
Oh yeah, Carlos rules. He's also hitting .240.
And we wonder why people say Toronto is a lousy sports town.
I'd almost rather see this type of attitude than the blind eye Jeterization we see from some fans and broadcasters.
And we wonder why people say Toronto is a lousy sports town.
I'd almost rather see this type of attitude than the blind eye Jeterization we see from some fans and broadcasters.
If Carlos can hit 30 homeruns in this horrid season, every detractor owes him a big apology. He could have mailed it in. Instead, he is focused, locked in and hitting the ball hard in almost every at-bat. Thats all you can ask for.
Just got back from the game. Tanyon Sturtze the winner in relief of E____ L____? Clearly, I've wandered into the Baseball Hell universe.
It has to be said: the Yankees' middle infield is very poor defensively. I've never seen so many six-hoppers up the middle go for base hits. Jeter seems to be able to move about three steps to either side, and Cairo/Wilson aren't any better. The O-Dog would have had at least half of those.
Sturtze's velocity is up, and E_____ L____ has definitely turned back into a pumpkin.
Lots of Yankees fans bringing their kids. As I've said before, I have nothing against Yankee fans, and I have even less problem with cute small children who happen to be Yankee fans. I think they're choosing the wrong life path, but who am I to say? :-)
It has to be said: the Yankees' middle infield is very poor defensively. I've never seen so many six-hoppers up the middle go for base hits. Jeter seems to be able to move about three steps to either side, and Cairo/Wilson aren't any better. The O-Dog would have had at least half of those.
Sturtze's velocity is up, and E_____ L____ has definitely turned back into a pumpkin.
Lots of Yankees fans bringing their kids. As I've said before, I have nothing against Yankee fans, and I have even less problem with cute small children who happen to be Yankee fans. I think they're choosing the wrong life path, but who am I to say? :-)
every detractor owes him a big apology
Some people refuse to acknowledge that Delgado was playing hurt for weeks, if not months. Knocking superstars makes them feel good, so don't expect them to apologize. It's hard to believe that a guy is 2-for-4, takes a fastball in the glutes for the team, has a double off the top of the CF wall stolen by a brillant catch, goes yard off a lefty, drives in 4 and still gets ripped.
Almost as misguided are the radio callers who can't resist taking shots at "Moneyball" even though they haven't read the book, learned everything they know about baseball from newspapers or talk shows and not coincidentally, have no idea what they're talking about. Mike Wilner pointed out on the postgame show that the Yankees went 1-for-7 tonight with RISP and were outhit 12-9 by the Jays, but the difference, as it so often is in the AL, was walks and home runs.
Some people refuse to acknowledge that Delgado was playing hurt for weeks, if not months. Knocking superstars makes them feel good, so don't expect them to apologize. It's hard to believe that a guy is 2-for-4, takes a fastball in the glutes for the team, has a double off the top of the CF wall stolen by a brillant catch, goes yard off a lefty, drives in 4 and still gets ripped.
Almost as misguided are the radio callers who can't resist taking shots at "Moneyball" even though they haven't read the book, learned everything they know about baseball from newspapers or talk shows and not coincidentally, have no idea what they're talking about. Mike Wilner pointed out on the postgame show that the Yankees went 1-for-7 tonight with RISP and were outhit 12-9 by the Jays, but the difference, as it so often is in the AL, was walks and home runs.
I rather enjoyed the first caller on the postgame show tonight. (Laura?) It's not often you hear a female call in to Wilner (don't jump down my throat; I listen to his show every day and it is 99% male callers), and she actually asked an okay question. (Are the Yankees better because they have a bunch of veterans who point stuff out to each other?) The "you know's" and "like's" were prevalent throughout, but still.
Man, I would love to be able to talk about baseball with a girl. If I sound sexist here, I apologize, but it would be really cool. Didn't Bill Simmons do a column on this? Probably.
Hell, forget baseball. I would like to talk about anything with a girl. 17 years so far, and not much to brag about in that department...
You can all ignore this post if you wish, or chalk it up to lack of sleep on my part. ;)
Man, I would love to be able to talk about baseball with a girl. If I sound sexist here, I apologize, but it would be really cool. Didn't Bill Simmons do a column on this? Probably.
Hell, forget baseball. I would like to talk about anything with a girl. 17 years so far, and not much to brag about in that department...
You can all ignore this post if you wish, or chalk it up to lack of sleep on my part. ;)
Lots of Yankees fans bringing their kids. As I've said before, I have nothing against Yankee fans, and I have even less problem with cute small children who happen to be Yankee fans. I think they're choosing the wrong life path, but who am I to say? :-)
The one -- and I mean only -- thing I hate about Yankee Stadium is the number of Big Drunk Dads who haul their six-year-old daughters and eight-year-old twin sons to the bleachers, shut them up with hot dogs and give them nine innings of parental modeling along the lines of "G__Dammit, Jeter, catch the F______ ball! Cairo, you S___!!! Brian F___ Doyle was better than you F_____ are! F____ it!!!! HOW are we only up four runs on these F_____ guys???"
Ah, fatherhood.
The one -- and I mean only -- thing I hate about Yankee Stadium is the number of Big Drunk Dads who haul their six-year-old daughters and eight-year-old twin sons to the bleachers, shut them up with hot dogs and give them nine innings of parental modeling along the lines of "G__Dammit, Jeter, catch the F______ ball! Cairo, you S___!!! Brian F___ Doyle was better than you F_____ are! F____ it!!!! HOW are we only up four runs on these F_____ guys???"
Ah, fatherhood.
Oy.
The problem with Skydome noise has emerged as a twofold problem in my books.
Not only is it the problem of the skydome staff, who have essentially made creative noise illegal, but it's also some of the fans best able to be audible with cheering.
The cheer club TRIED to be in full force today - heckling L----- was apparently heard as far as the press box. Yet, some family in front of us felt the need to swear and such at us for making noise - even over chanting "overrated" at Jeter - which CAUGHT ON with the rest of the stadium.
When will skydome and its non-regular patrons learn that this is a BASEBALL GAME?
All in all a low-point - though we did get some good shots on Jeter - man, he barely even TRIED to get the grounders. I think he made 2 catches on the day, one of which was slow and right at him.
Alex told me a nice story when we met up at the ice cream truck - he apparently got into a shouting match with some Yankee fans over his chanting of "overrated" at Jeter (he was over a few sections away from us). The Yankee fans' big reprisal? To shout "overrated" at CHRIS WOODWARD. Bra... vo.
One other high point - on the first hit of the game, we had an excellent opportunity to utilize one of the greatest jokes ever created on this site - I shouted "What do you call a slow roller to Derek Jeter's left?" to which Aaron replied "Base hit up the middle!".
Thanks, Jim, that was a gem.
The problem with Skydome noise has emerged as a twofold problem in my books.
Not only is it the problem of the skydome staff, who have essentially made creative noise illegal, but it's also some of the fans best able to be audible with cheering.
The cheer club TRIED to be in full force today - heckling L----- was apparently heard as far as the press box. Yet, some family in front of us felt the need to swear and such at us for making noise - even over chanting "overrated" at Jeter - which CAUGHT ON with the rest of the stadium.
When will skydome and its non-regular patrons learn that this is a BASEBALL GAME?
All in all a low-point - though we did get some good shots on Jeter - man, he barely even TRIED to get the grounders. I think he made 2 catches on the day, one of which was slow and right at him.
Alex told me a nice story when we met up at the ice cream truck - he apparently got into a shouting match with some Yankee fans over his chanting of "overrated" at Jeter (he was over a few sections away from us). The Yankee fans' big reprisal? To shout "overrated" at CHRIS WOODWARD. Bra... vo.
One other high point - on the first hit of the game, we had an excellent opportunity to utilize one of the greatest jokes ever created on this site - I shouted "What do you call a slow roller to Derek Jeter's left?" to which Aaron replied "Base hit up the middle!".
Thanks, Jim, that was a gem.
Halladay is slated to make a few September starts, I believe.
Also, I think the Jays should shut down Bush soon...he's only in his second full pro year and he hasn't been starting for very long. I just did some calculations and I figured the rotation for the rest of the year (starting tomorrow with Lilly's start) should go like this:
Lilly (8): NY, SEA, @ANA, @TEX, TB, @NY, @BAL, NY
Batista (8): NY, OAK, @ANA, BAL, TB, @NY, @BAL, NY
Towers (6): SEA, OAK, @ANA, BAL, @TB, @BAL
Bush (3): SEA, OAK, @TEX - last game is the 10th
Miller (3): TB, @TB, @BAL
Now that adds up to 28 of the 33 remaining games. That's because I think Doc will make his return on Sept. 11:
Doc (5): @TEX, BAL, @NYY, @TB, NYY
That may be too many games, and if so, Miller or Bush can spot start. But that's basically how I think it should break down.
Lilly 8, Batista 8, Towers 6, Halladay 5, Bush 3, Miller 3.
Also, I think the Jays should shut down Bush soon...he's only in his second full pro year and he hasn't been starting for very long. I just did some calculations and I figured the rotation for the rest of the year (starting tomorrow with Lilly's start) should go like this:
Lilly (8): NY, SEA, @ANA, @TEX, TB, @NY, @BAL, NY
Batista (8): NY, OAK, @ANA, BAL, TB, @NY, @BAL, NY
Towers (6): SEA, OAK, @ANA, BAL, @TB, @BAL
Bush (3): SEA, OAK, @TEX - last game is the 10th
Miller (3): TB, @TB, @BAL
Now that adds up to 28 of the 33 remaining games. That's because I think Doc will make his return on Sept. 11:
Doc (5): @TEX, BAL, @NYY, @TB, NYY
That may be too many games, and if so, Miller or Bush can spot start. But that's basically how I think it should break down.
Lilly 8, Batista 8, Towers 6, Halladay 5, Bush 3, Miller 3.
Goddamn my voice is sore from that game. I was the jackass in 124 who booed Randy Marsh for about 5 minutes when he called ?jeter? safe on the tag up where he was out by at least 4 feet.
I also found the silence nice. During Jeter's first at bat, I yelled out "Hey Derek, how's it feel to be the second best shortstop on your team." Some guy about ten rows ahead of me turned around yelled something but I could only make out the word "Jeter".
Of course, the HR kind of put a damper in that.
I also found the silence nice. During Jeter's first at bat, I yelled out "Hey Derek, how's it feel to be the second best shortstop on your team." Some guy about ten rows ahead of me turned around yelled something but I could only make out the word "Jeter".
Of course, the HR kind of put a damper in that.
That was the weirdest thing, I was looking at him, and then he was on JumboTron. I was also on there, but NFH was the desired target of that shot. The people in front of us wanted to kick our asses though. One skinny dude turned around as though to fight and I guess saw us 7 impressive males and sat right back down again. His mom had to take up his fight for him: "you boys are being obnoxious, calling someone overrated!"
"Boo-hoo, go watch Sportsnet."
Babies.
"Boo-hoo, go watch Sportsnet."
Babies.
Oh yeah, get this: JumboTron showed a Yankees cap with red electrician's tape marking an "x" through it. We of course cheered wildly. One American, upset, retorted: "we didn't boo your anthem".
First: it's funny how Americans think they're still in the States when in Canada, being polite enough to accept us playing our anthem at ballgames. Second: it's funny how Yankee fans equate their team with America itself.
First: it's funny how Americans think they're still in the States when in Canada, being polite enough to accept us playing our anthem at ballgames. Second: it's funny how Yankee fans equate their team with America itself.
His mom had to take up his fight for him: "you boys are being obnoxious, calling someone overrated!"
Reading Batters Box over the past 24 hours has been a very surreal experience. When did the SkyDome enter the Twilight Zone? I know that the atmosphere at baseball games in Toronto has always been... different... but this is a little ridiculous. Vocal, enthusiastic fans for the HOME TEAM should not be encountering so much resistance to their efforts.
Reading Batters Box over the past 24 hours has been a very surreal experience. When did the SkyDome enter the Twilight Zone? I know that the atmosphere at baseball games in Toronto has always been... different... but this is a little ridiculous. Vocal, enthusiastic fans for the HOME TEAM should not be encountering so much resistance to their efforts.
What happened? Some widescreen glitch?
Yes. In their opening segment, Sawkiw and Fay were squeezed into a narrow frame, resulting in very elongated heads.
It amused me.
Yes. In their opening segment, Sawkiw and Fay were squeezed into a narrow frame, resulting in very elongated heads.
It amused me.
Next year i'll be going to a couple Jays games, I hope I can get in on the cheer club, sounds like a wicked time harrassing Derek Jeter.
The people in front of us wanted to kick our asses though
Oddly enough, the best insults came from this young kid that sat in front of us. He kept repeating everything that NFH said in a sarcastic tone. He didn't really get angry at us, he just chose to stick it to us in a different way. This was completely different than the other young guy who pretended he was wearing the tough guy pants that evening.
Oddly enough, the best insults came from this young kid that sat in front of us. He kept repeating everything that NFH said in a sarcastic tone. He didn't really get angry at us, he just chose to stick it to us in a different way. This was completely different than the other young guy who pretended he was wearing the tough guy pants that evening.
Anyone else see NFH on the Jumbotron?
I liken this event as a microcosm of the Batter's Box. When they panned to us on the Jumbotron, each of us were engaged in little conversations and I had my head in a big stack of stats sheets that Robert gave me.
I liken this event as a microcosm of the Batter's Box. When they panned to us on the Jumbotron, each of us were engaged in little conversations and I had my head in a big stack of stats sheets that Robert gave me.
I watched a bit of game in an hour last night and you could only hear us on the TV if you know what to listen for. CHIIIIIIKEEEEEEEEN for the throw-overs to first was about the clearest. Doesn't matter, though, since Esteban could certainly hear us. The funniest was when he started timing his pitches to occur in between our long, drawn out LOAIIIIIIZAAAAAAAAs while we were refilling our lungs. He started doing this after a visit from the pitching coach. So we started retiming our chant -- LOAIIIIZALOAIIIIIIIIIIIIIZAAAAAAA! That's hard on the lungs.
Mrs. Hank reported that while she was driving over we were loud and clear on the radio.
Mrs. Hank reported that while she was driving over we were loud and clear on the radio.
Vocal, enthusiastic fans for the HOME TEAM should not be encountering so much resistance to their efforts.
Yeah, it's a sad, sorry state of affairs.
Yeah, it's a sad, sorry state of affairs.
The one -- and I mean only -- thing I hate about Yankee Stadium is the number of Big Drunk Dads
I'm probably the person on this site that has spent the most time at Yankee Stadium as a Jays fan at Tor-NY games (20-25 games). Believe it or not, my experiences there are usually positive; the crowd is fun and knowledgeable. Typically, the friendly people outnumber the good-natured ribbers, and good-natured ribbers outnumber the ill-natured ribbers.
That said, there are always Big Drunk Dads. One of my permanent Yankee Stadium memories will always be one of these BDDs literally dragging an embarrassed son toward us.
Son: Dad, I don't want to yell at them.
Father: You got to. (to us) You s___, you a__holes! Get the f___ out of here! A__holes!
Son: Dad, let's go home...
Father: Not yet! A__holes!
By the way, the Jays were not competitive and there was not US-Canadian friction during this particular incident. Woe be to Leaf fans in New Jersey when, say, Canada doesn't join in a war of aggression...
The sitting/booing through O Canada was just the start of the "fun" at the Meadowlands that night. The highlight was definitely the angry denials of the fans in front of us when we pointed out the small matter of Brodeur, Stevens, Niedermayer, etc. being Canadian: "New Jersey is in the USA!"
I'm probably the person on this site that has spent the most time at Yankee Stadium as a Jays fan at Tor-NY games (20-25 games). Believe it or not, my experiences there are usually positive; the crowd is fun and knowledgeable. Typically, the friendly people outnumber the good-natured ribbers, and good-natured ribbers outnumber the ill-natured ribbers.
That said, there are always Big Drunk Dads. One of my permanent Yankee Stadium memories will always be one of these BDDs literally dragging an embarrassed son toward us.
Son: Dad, I don't want to yell at them.
Father: You got to. (to us) You s___, you a__holes! Get the f___ out of here! A__holes!
Son: Dad, let's go home...
Father: Not yet! A__holes!
By the way, the Jays were not competitive and there was not US-Canadian friction during this particular incident. Woe be to Leaf fans in New Jersey when, say, Canada doesn't join in a war of aggression...
The sitting/booing through O Canada was just the start of the "fun" at the Meadowlands that night. The highlight was definitely the angry denials of the fans in front of us when we pointed out the small matter of Brodeur, Stevens, Niedermayer, etc. being Canadian: "New Jersey is in the USA!"