Congrats, Vernon. An unexpected, but defientely pleasant surprise.

Not too surprised about v-dub, but Boone over Hudson????? ARG what a gip!

And Orlando Hudson was robbed. Boone didn't deserve it this year.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=algoldglovewinners&prov=st&type=lgns
COMN for all Gold Glove winners.

I read that Vernon is in transit for All-Star Series 2004, an eight-game exhibition tour that sees stars from around Major League Baseball face off against the Nippon Professional All-Stars.

Anyone have any more info on this??

Vernon's a part of the MLB All-Star team that is sent every other year to play in an exhibition series, this year vs. a Japanese AS team. There is more info on MLB.com

Derek Jeter, Gold Glove winner. LOL.

I don't think people should be surprised by Orlando's snub. It usually takes a couple years for your defensive abilities to get noticed by the glove voters, and for them to get off comfortable choices (see: Rafael Palmeiro's dominance at 1st base in previous years).

I'm suprised V-Dub won. I felt like Kotsay deserved the Gold Glove more than V-Dub (although I didn't see every A's game).

At the same time I felt like O-Dog should have won the Gold Glove over Boone.

Maybe it is true you have to really establish yourself one year and then you'll win it next season if you still produce at a high level like V-Dub.

O-Dog winning the Gold Glove would have probably boosted his trade value.

Jeter the Gold Glover at SS. I think I need to get my eyes checked because I saw a different Jeter than the voters.

Congratulations, Vernon!

Derek Jeter winning a Gold Glove? He's a good player, but he's got very little range at shortstop. When I saw the Yankees play at SkyDome (and beat the tar out of the Jays), I was startled to see how many multi-hop ground balls up the middle skidded through for base hits.

Sometimes the old jokes are still the best:

What do you call a ground ball to Jeter's left?
Base hit up the middle

I think Jeter's real first name is "Past A Diving". I mean, how many times have you heard an announcer cry say a ball is "... Past A Diving Jeter!"

in other news, tony gwynn's on crack...his analysis of the GG winners:

Vernon: "He's very deserving of his first gold glove. The only issue in the past was that he was prone to being hurt, so he wasn't playing as many games. He has great mechanics and plays the angles well." (uhh, hurt in the past? the man's played 159 and 161 games his first two full seasons)

Jeter: "It's about time Jeter won a gold glove. With Omar Vizquel not playing every day and A-Rod at third, things opened up for Jeter. But if you watch him play, you'll know he's been a GG-calibre shortstop for a while." ("tony and derek, sitting in a tree...")

I remember at the start of the season when O-Dog was really starting to turn heads and we said "he's probably going to lose the award to Bret Boone's bat anyways". Then after the disaster of the Seattle offence this year we said "hey! he's got a chance now!". Oh how wrong we were....

Well, lets hope they're just on a typical delay and O-Dog gets his props next year.

He has great mechanics

Anyone have any idea what that means?

His Porsche is never in the shop for more than a day.

What does COMN stand for?

COMN = click on my name

This is used when someone's name serves as a link to a URL.

The Gold Gloves are a joke. Jeter and Boone? Ridiculous.

Guzman and Hudson were the top middle infielders defensively, but Guzman doesn't hit well enough to win a GG.

This shows you how ridiculous the whole thing is.

(At least Jeter isn't the WORST rated starting SS, like he was last year. He is something like fifth, if I remember correctly.)

Congratulations to Vernon Wells.

Bret Boone?? You can make cases for Adam Kennedy or Orlando Hudson, but Bret Boone is just unfathomable. We joked on this site that Boone couldn't win the GG with his bat, as he did previously. For those who say that subjective evaluation of defence is more reliable than objective measures, the awarding of a GG to Bret Boone this year is, shall we say it, a difficult piece of negative evidence.

Jeter won a Gold Glove? Who handled the vote count, Tim McCarver?

I think we should just be thankful Rafael Palmeiro didn't win the Gold Glove at shortstop.

Finally Yankee fans have hard proof that Derek Jeter is a great defensive short stop (sarcasm)

Italics begone.

"range percentage" as 2.40. Does anyone know what this means and how they calculate it?


If range percentage is anything like range factor (hmm.... it sounds similar), it's calculated by (put outs + assists)/9 innings.

If range percentage is anything like range factor (hmm.... it sounds similar), it's calculated by (put outs + assists)/9 innings.

That is correct Hamboy

Here is a list of 3rd baseman fielding stats for the American league. While Hinske did lead the league in fielding percentage, I believer Chavez was the best feilding third baseman.

You can also sort that list to compare any position.

On a side note, Orlando Hudson had the best Range Factor of any regular second basman in the AL, while Brett Boone had the worst.

I, personally, think Zone Range would be a better indicator of defensive ability... but that's just me...

Just as aside, Boone had worst ZR of all AL second baggers...

I like a combination of the two stats (RF and ZR).

After doing a quick sort of 2nd, 3rd, and SS, only their pick for 3rd was justifiable. Jeter and Boone were just horrible picks to win a gold glove.

I think there should be a stat that's combination of both RF and ZR, since RF deals a lot with ability to throw (and throw to correct man), and ZR deals with ability of defender to defend the zone he's suppose to cover.

Anyone up to coming up with simple calculation to come up with Zone Range Factor (combo of RF & ZR)? Thought about just adding the two numbers, a la OPS, but since RF is not really a percentage, can't do that...

I think you also have to factor fielding percentage as well, since ZR or RF don't significantly account for errors.

Baseball Prospectus weighs in on the voting.

High praise for Hudson. Less so for Wells.

Our stats actually say that Palmeiro would have been a deserving winner again, leading the AL with a 17/11 score. Carlos Delgado was second, at 16/10

?????

Is Carlos really becoming a better fielder?

I think Wells was a good selection (at least certainly not a terrible one), but i suspect he won for exactly the same reason Jeter did - one pretty play at Yankee Stadium. Boone's made a few pretty plays too - I guess we should rename the 'gold glove' the 'web-gem award for occasional excellence'.

Wells also led all regular centerfielders in feilding %. An arguement can be made that he deserves the award, however I don't think the same can be said for Jeter.

Clay Davenport's Gold Glove choices and explanations in Baseball Prospectus are fine. I'd love to see the proprietary ratings that the Red Sox and A's have; I suspect that they'd be similar.

As for Palmeiro and Delgado leading the league defensively at first base, they are both really average defensive first basemen (Davenport finds Delgado's number suspect). With Minky losing his job, there were, as Davenport points out, no fine defensive first basemen in the American League and Erstad was a reasonable choice.

If range percentage is anything like range factor (hmm.... it sounds similar), it's calculated by (put outs + assists)/9 innings.

In other words, it means nothing.

OOPS, didn't mean to start this debate again. ;)

I'm surprised Tejada didn't get a gold glove. He's now officially the best SS in baseball.

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The astonishing thing is that Jeter has more fielding win shares than Orlando Hudson.

Way to Vernon you are the best and the O-DOG should have won a gold glove as well next year we will have two gold gloves vernon and the o-dog alexis rios will win the rookie of the year.