Well, the other thread caught a bunch...how about Alex Gonzalez, Shannon Stewart, Rance Mullinicks, Shawn Green?

the other thread caught a bunch...

Yeah, while I was typing this one!

They got:

1. Moseby
2. Whitt
3. Cruz
6. Olerud
10. Overbay

And you've got
4. Green
7. Gonzalez

I'm going to guess... Shawn Green, Jose Cruz. Jr., Lloyd Moseby, Ed Sprague, Shannon Stewart, Adam Lind, Roberto Alomar, Alex Rios, Raul Mondesi and Alex Gonzalez 1. My Jays knowledge is admittedly post Series mostly, though I am surprised by how many marginal outfielders I thought of.

There's one more spotted: Alex Rios.

Two more to go. Identified so far:

6. Moseby
7. Whitt
9. Cruz
10. Green
14. Olerud
16. Gonzalez
18. Rios
21. Overbay

Sprague, who stands 12th in HRs as a Jay, led the team in 1996.

Ed Sprague is out because he led the team one year (1999 maybe?)

Bonus question: Name the 8 Blue Jays have led the team in home runs in one season only.

This is a wonderful question, although actually asking the question kind of gives away the answer: who stole more bases as Blue Jay - Orlando Hudson or Fred McGriff?

the 8 Blue Jays

Are you counting 2010? Otherwise I only see 7 guys.

Evidently!

4. Jose Bautista (36)*

 

OK. Not gonna play, obviously!

If this question had been asked a month later I would have had another right, as it stands I feel alright getting 5 plus numbers 11 and 12. I can't believe Ed Sprague led the team in homers. Two of these are just devilishly hard/improbable.  

Two of these are just devilishly hard/improbable.

Not nearly as hard as Matthew's original on the Saves leaders. Still two to go on that one as well, and I'm ready to look it up. Completely flummoxed.

More guesses. Velez? Fullmer? Buck Martinez? Darrin Fletcher? Borders? Myers? Bonnell? Damaso Garcia?

Willie Upshaw?

Upshaw led the Jays in '82 and '83.

Velez hit 72. Fullmer hit 50. Buck Martinez hit 35. Fletcher hit 61. Borders hit 54. Myers hit less than 31 (did not make the top 50). Bonnell hit 33, and Garcia 32. (For reference, Overbay is sitting at 81 homers as a Jay.)

Geez, how many homers did Tony Fernandez hit in his various visits here?  Maybe enough to make this list.

Not sure if they have been guessed yet: Lind (didn't lead last year) and Hinske?

Lind has 73, Fernandez 60, and Hinske 78, good for ninth.

The Dude, represents! And then there was one...

James W, Magpie has it that Overbay was in 10th.  You have Overbay with 81, so Hinske couldn't be 9th with 78 unless there's a small error somewhere.

Absolutely right. Rios is the player with 81 Jays home runs. That got stuck in my mind. Overbay has 76 with Toronto.

Has anyone guessed Shannon Stewart?

Devon White?

And then there was one. More HRs as a Jay than John Olerud, but not as many as Shawn Green.

Y'all are gonna smite yourselves upside the head....

I cheated and looked it up.  Can't believe he wasn't guessed!

I gave up, and Magpie's right.  This aint like trying to figure out who had 3 saves or 5 saves in 1982.

Anybody guess Kelly Gruber?

Ding, ding, ding.

The female bauxites let us down......uh, wait a sec....

I thought of Gruber, but didn't he lead the team in 1990?

Well done. So having solved that one, can we finish off Matthew's original puzzler?

The Top 10 guys on the Jays all-time Saves list, who never led the team in Saves in a single season. Identified so far:

15. Downs (16)
18T. Quantrill (15)
18T. Eichhorn (15)
21. Acker (14)
23T. Wells (13)
23T. Lamp (13)
23T. Politte (13)
29T. Lavelle (9)

Two to go, and I'll provide some Oblique Clues.

One guy, while definitely a reliever for the most part may actually be best remembered for something he achieved as a starter.

The other guy... hmmm. While I was at the Dome the other night, I was asked to guess the winning pitcher in the Jays' very first game. I couldn't remember, and I guessed this guy. I was wrong - he wouldn't join the team for another three months.

Fred McGriff hit 35 in 1990, to Gruber's 31.

didn't [Gruber] lead the team in 1990?

Crime Dog, as always.

One guy, while definitely a reliever for the most part may actually be best remembered for something he achieved as a starter.

(Just trying to move things along.) Is this the Guidry thing?

Crime Dog, as always.

Well, of the two ways '90 could have happened, that was the other one.

Is this the Guidry thing?

Yup.

I like the Guidry thing. I want to tell the story. Especially the way it ended!

I give up. What's The Guidry Thing?

Looking forward to the next Massive Magpie Opus headlined "Recounting the Famed 'Guidry Thing'"

You've probably already heard the story, actually. It's a neat bit of trivia; not much more. But I'll let Magpie give the details.

The Guidry Thing

In 1978, Ron Guidry had one of those years that pitchers have, every now and then - Steve Carlton in 1972, Dwight Gooden in 1985. He laid absolute waste to the American League, winning 25 games, 9 of them by shutout. He struck out 248 and had an ERA of 1.74. Only three pitchers were able to beat him: Mike Caldwell, Mike Flanagan, and Mike Willis (of the Jays, and one of the missing pieces.)

You notice what the three pitchers had in common?

The 1978 season, as is well known, ended in a dead heat between the Yankees (14 games out of first place in July) and the Red Sox. Guidry would start the one-game playoff to settle the issue. Were Red Sox fans discouraged - well, yeah. But in their haunted, dread-laden, superstitious hearts, they clung to a ray of hope. Guidry, who normally worked on four days rest, would be making his third consecutive start on just three days rest. But much more important, their starting pitcher would be Mike Torrez.

Did it work? In the second inning, Yastrzemski actually pulled a Guidry fastball into the RF corner for a homer, and a 1-0 lead. In the sixth, a Rice double, a Burleson single and an IBB to Fisk brought Fred Lynn to the plate with the Sox up 2-0 and two runners aboard. Lynn pulled a line drive deep into the RF corner... and Lou Piniella materialized out of nowhere to catch it and end the inning. ("What the hell was he doing there," Lynn grumbled afterwards. "That's 30 feet away from where he normally plays me. He had no business being there." Piniella later explained that he and Munson talked between innings, agreed that Guidry's fastball was more the speed of a slider this day, and some LH batter would be able to pull him.)

Torrez took the Red Sox into the 7th, and then... Bucky Dent. Everyone knows the rest.

So the moral is - being named "Mike" only takes you so far. You also need to be LH, and crafty probably helps.

Your oblique clues are a bit too oblique for me, but if we're going to go back to the 1977 team - how about Mike Willis?  or Lemancyck?

Ooh, great story Mags. I don't recall hearing it before, and as a Yankee fan with my first name, I think that's one I'd remember! Tell it again, unkle maggsy ...

It was Willis, and you were typing your post while I was announcing that it was... Willis.

So - one more. Bearing in mind that whatever can go wrong, will go wrong.

Tell it again

Tempting. It was one of the most gripping, dramatic baseball games I have ever seen - practically by itself, it justifies the whole Red Sox-Yankees thing. Just an incredible ball game. And I didn't even bother with the final three innings. Which were not without drama. And all kinds of intensely interesting side-notes. (Like, why didn't they pinch hit for Bucky Dent? Why was he using Mickey Rivers' bat?)

"Bearing in mind that whatever can go wrong, will go wrong"

Someone named Murphy, perhaps?

Finally!