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Try the Boston Red Sox, gumshoes!   As noted in a previous thread, the Padres have traded first baseman Adrian Gonzalez to the Red Sox for three prospects - pitcher Casey Kelly, first baseman Anthony Rizzo and outfielder Reymond Fuentes.  The Red Sox will also send a PTBNL San Diego's way.

Update Dec 5 @ 5:40 pm:  The San Diego Union Tribune says the deal is not done yet.  It's believed Gonzalez and the Red Sox are not seeing eye to eye on a proposed contract extension.

Update Dec 7:  Now it looks to be done!  Seven years, $154-million bucks.



Meantime, the Blue Jays are hoping to make a big move of their own in acquiring a Cy Young Award winner.  The Toronto Sun's Bob Elliott reports the Jays are targetting Kansas City ace Zack Greinke and it's believed the asking price will at least be Kyle Drabek and Travis Snider for starters.





Toronto is also looking to bolster the bullpen and made a move towards that end by acquiring Carlos Villanueva from Milwaukee for a player to be named later.  The 27 year-old toggled between starting and relieving with the Brew Crew, going 2-0 with a 4.61 ERA and a save in 50 appearances last year.  His K-BB mark was 67-22 in 52 2/3 innings pitched.  On the negative side, Villanueva gave up seven homers, only averaged 0.94 groundouts per flyout, and his WHIP was 1.33.

Villanueva joined the Brewers in 2006 and his first three seasons were pretty solid, including an 8-5 mark in 2007 as Milwaukee enjoyed its first winning season since 1992.  He also has a 1.000 career batting average in the post-season as he recorded a hit against the Phillies in the 2008 National League Division Series.  We'll see if he will be assigned Ernie Whitt's number 12 for the Jays in 2011.



In Yankee related news, the Evil Empire and Gold Glove* shortstop Derek Jeter agree to terms but say good-bye to first baseman Lance Berkman, who is now a St. Louis Cardinal.

These should be the first of many moves as the Winter Meetings are fast approaching.

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TamRa - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 12:46 AM EST (#226732) #
I really don't believe that there's been anything beyond "due dilligence" in regards to Grienke unless they somehow found out the price was much lower than the reporters are saying.

When Alex makes a move that major we probably won't see it coming at all.



Sherrystar - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 12:57 AM EST (#226733) #
These Greinke for Snider + Drabek rumours are really scaring me. Why? Cause they almost make sense.
christaylor - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 01:26 AM EST (#226734) #
That's reasonable place to start asking, but if I'm the Royals, I expect the answer to be NO but I'm over the moon and accept right away if the counter-offer is Snider and Stewart or Snider and Scrabble.

That being said, I'd kind of like to live in a world where Greinke is traded for Drabek, Gose and D'Arnaud and a team-friendly extension in dollars and years.

A deal for 27 y/o ace and throw some dollars at Beltre (not a fan but he fills a need). 3/$45M? The A's are in on him, how expensive could he be? How does the 2011 team with Greinke and Beltre team not be considered close enough to NY/BOS/TB have a shot at a playoff spot?

It is worth taking a roll of the dice now and these two moves wouldn't be crippling. The more I think of about it 2014 is at least as likely to be more of a mini-rebuild year than the magic year the team competes.
Alex Obal - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 01:35 AM EST (#226735) #
You can never go wrong with an MVP Baseball 2005 reference.
Mylegacy - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 02:08 AM EST (#226737) #
Mes amies, the problem with our beloved  feathered friends is not pitching. We've seven major league ready starters - several of whom could be stars and the rest are at worse potentially all slightly above average MLB starters; Morrow, Romero, Marcum, Cecil, Drabek, Scrabble and Stewart with several others who might even be better than those.

The problem is - without question - hitting. Unless Hill and Lind - BOTH - rebound - and unless Snider turns into the monster we all wish him to become - we will most definitely not be able to play with the elites in the AL East. We really have only one potential, major league ready,  All-Star hitter - Travis Snider. I cannot see even a pretense of an elite offense without him living up to his potential. Were I AA - he would be untouchable - except in the rarest of multi-player trades - the like of which is nearly impossible to forecast.

I am not opposed to trading Drabek, Jenkins, maybe even Gose and McDade for Grienke - but why? Like many I'm not sure which year's record is the real Grienke - why - it's enough to drive a man to drink. Now, there's an idea.  
BumWino - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 07:43 AM EST (#226738) #

Mylegacy, I doff my hat and bow deeply in deference to your sage, lucid and germane 2:00AM comments--undoubtedly fueled by some 17 hours of indulging in one of your favorite activities--with regard to the Jays' possible acquisition of Anxious Guy.  Couldn't agree more.

Jays finished 6th in runs scored last year, I believe 105 runs behind Yankees.  Besides the necessary  improved performances which you have already pointed out, Arencibia needs to very quickly learn how to hit major-league pitching.  And the team needs a DH (Manny?) with a .400+ OBP for the #3 slot in front of Bautista and Wells.

All of the above is moot, if the relief corps loses 30 games.  That area is truly a shambles at the present time.  

It could be much improved if, say, two of Zep, Richmond, Stewart, Litsch can man the front end better than the likes of  gonzo Tallet and Accardo, and Carlson, Roenicke, Lewis, et al, have shown. That would leave Janssen, Camp, Purcey and Frasor at the back end.  Still a little shaky.

But add in a big-time closer like Walkin' Soria and, suddenly, it's not a bad bullpen.  The guy's phenomenal and at 26, he is just entering his prime .  Soria's made 132 saves in 145 opportunities with a 2.01 ERA over the past four years.  

I wonder if a package like Frasor or Camp or Janssen, plus Stewart and McDade, plus the Jays' #1 pick in the 2011 draft would be enough to land him.  Assuming Jays had a window to sign Joakim for $25-$30 million over  three years, kicking in after his current deal expires.

 

Chuck - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 07:58 AM EST (#226739) #

plus the Jays' #1 pick in the 2011 draft

You can't trade draft picks in baseball.

CeeBee - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 08:19 AM EST (#226740) #
If the Jays trade Snider and Drabek/Stewart for Greinke I'll cry, and it won't be tears of joy. We need hitting/defense and late inning relief help much much more than we need another starter!
Thomas - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 10:23 AM EST (#226743) #
The more I think about it, the more I believe this trade would make me sick to my stomach if I was a Padres fan.
timpinder - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 11:34 AM EST (#226745) #

I don't know how anyone could realistically believe that the Jays are, "one more big piece", away from competing for the AL East crown.  They're about three or four pieces away and would be better served developing those pieces from within their own system, at least until they're only one piece away and truly ready to compete.

Having said that, if the money's there for an extension I wouldn't be opposed to a deal that netted Greinke and involved a pitching prospect like Drabek because a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, but trading Travis Snider would be a big mistake and would just open up another hole in the outfield.  And I believe that Snider is going to bust out this year.

I'm not getting too worked up about it though because I don't think AA is stupid.  He's not going to trade Snider and Drabek for two years of Greinke when the Jays aren't realistically going to be contenders over that two year period.

timpinder - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 11:52 AM EST (#226746) #

And A-Gon is going to be a monster in Fenway.  If you take his numbers away from Petco over the past four seasons from 2007-2010, you're looking at a slash line of .305/.383/.592 with an average of 45 homeruns a year.  Give him the green monster, Pesky's pole, and a good lineup, and his numbers are going to be ridonkulous.  I think Boston just became the favourites in the AL East, even if they don't sign Werth or Crawford.  This is a great deal for the Red Sox.

Ishai - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 11:56 AM EST (#226747) #
Greinke for Drabek, Snider, and someone else does not compare favourably from the Blue Jays point of view with:
Halladay for Drabek (one year farther away), D'Arnaud, and Gose.
Would you trade Halladay for Greinke? Would you trade Snider and a Player to be Named Later for D'Arnaud and Gose? Would you trade this year's Drabek for last year's Drabek? I don't think the Blue Jays make any one of those trades.

Of course AA should consider whether this trade improves the team without worrying about looking bad compared to previous trades. But if he does make this trade, it sure looks bad compared to previous trades.

Thomas - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 02:53 PM EST (#226752) #
MLBTrade Rumours is reporting the deal has fallen through, as the sides couldn't come to terms on a contract extension.
Thomas - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 02:54 PM EST (#226753) #
Jon heyman is reporting the deal has fallen through, as the sides couldn't come to terms on a contract extension.
CeeBee - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 03:30 PM EST (#226755) #
Glad to hear that :)
Hodgie - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 03:47 PM EST (#226756) #
The Gonzalez trade, if it goes through, will be an interesting case. The only way if makes sense to me is if the Red Sox envision Gonzalez morphing into Pujols for the next few years and that Youkilis is capable of at least providing equal value to Beltre over that time frame.

Otherwise it is an awfully expensive way to marginally upgrade a roster if the reported contract demands are accurate (8 years and $160M + 3 organizational top 10 prospects). For the Blue Jays he would represent a significant improvement to the roster, to the Red Sox I am not as convinced.

TimberLee - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 03:47 PM EST (#226757) #

Unfortunately, from what I see on Rotoworld, I think Thomas may be referring to the Adrian Gonzalez deal falling through. (?) 

 Add me to those who doesn't want to see Grienke at a cost of Snider and Drabek.

dan gordon - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 04:14 PM EST (#226759) #

Yes, it's the Gonzalez trade that might fall through.

Before looking at Greinke's splits, I thought it would be terrible to trade Snider and Drabek for him.  After looking at the splits, I think it would be even worse.  His home park has helped him a fair bit.  His career ERA on the road is 4.12.  His career WHIP on the road is 1.29.  All while playing in a weak division.  Somehow, based on one amazing season, Greinke seems to have been given the label of an ace starter.  For the rest of his career, he hasn't been performing at that level.  I thought one of the most important things for a GM to do was to not overrate players based on one "career year".  AA can't be making a mistake that basic can he?  Apparently the Royals have asked Milwaukee for Braun even up for Greinke.  This stuff is nuts.   

timpinder - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 04:16 PM EST (#226760) #

I think A-Gon would be a pretty big improvement.  If he played anywhere but San Diego his numbers would likely be consistently in the top 10 or top 5 in baseball.   His OPS' the last three years away from Petco have been .946, 1.045 and .980.

Also, Ken Rosenthal is saying that the deal "is far from over".

andrewkw - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 04:56 PM EST (#226761) #
In mostly unrelated news The Nats have signed Werth to a SEVEN year deal!  The Red Sox can't fall back on him and Crawford's price just went up.  If Werth can get 7 years he should get 9.  Of course the tradeoff is Werth will be playing for The Nats.  It must be a big contract, this is real early for a Boras client to sign. 
Original Ryan - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 04:59 PM EST (#226762) #
It must be a big contract, this is real early for a Boras client to sign.

"Let's take it now before the Nationals come to their senses."
andrewkw - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 05:02 PM EST (#226763) #
Yup $126 million.  Same amount as you know who...
ayjackson - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 05:07 PM EST (#226764) #

Wow the market is up.  No one was predicting seven years for Werth.  Boston may be balking at Agon's price, but it just went up again.

We haven't seen contracts like these for several offseasons.

The owners will have a tough time cyring poor ahead of next years Labor negotiations.

Mick Doherty - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 05:24 PM EST (#226767) #
Greinke is gonig tto end up in either the Bronx  or Texas -- whichever team doesn't win the Cliff Lee bidding war will dump massive  prospects on KC.
ComebyDeanChance - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 05:25 PM EST (#226768) #
The internet kids in DC who just want to see Mom and Dad buy something expensive, must be pretty happy this evening. 7/126 million for a 31 year old rightfielder on a team that finished 22 games behind 2 different teams last year, as well as 11 behind another and still 10 behind another, is absurd.

I'm glad that Anthopoulos, Beeston and Rogers aren't proceeding like this.

I have a hard time seeing how the Gonzales deal works for anyone except the Padres. The Pads get a better haul that what they'd get from comp picks, including a 20 year old pitcher in AA. But Boston gets a first baseman who just had labrum surgery, who isn't going to give an injury discount to them the year before free agency. I can't see how it works for the Sox to pay Texeira money to someone coming off surgery, and I can't see how it works for the player to let Boston wait and see him after spring training. He's in no better position then than he'd be in after the season when he's a free agent.

Ron - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 05:29 PM EST (#226769) #

Congrats to Scott Boras. I know MLB is swimming in cash but I didnít see Werth getting 127 million. I wonder if some team will give Crawford a 10 year/200 million deal.

From a Jayís fan perspective, the bargain bin still looks pretty good. I wouldnít be surprised if Nick Johnson and Rich Harden have to settle for a minor league contract with an invite to Spring Training. There hasnít been a lot of public discussion on Manny. We all know heís only looking for a 1 year contract and is interested in playing for the Jays. I wouldn't have a problem giving him a 1 yr/3 million contract with another 2 million in incentives. People say Manny is washed up but he would have been the 2nd or 3rd best hitter on the Jayís last season.

Original Ryan - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 05:32 PM EST (#226770) #
Somewhere in the 7 years and $126 million is a premium for going to a team that has lost at least 89 games in each of the last five seasons.  With Boras being involved, it's also possible the Nationals were bidding against themselves.  If the Werth deal is viewed as a bad team overpaying for a borderline star, it might not move the market quite as much as Crawford, Lee, Beltre and Gonzalez hope it will.  Time will ultimately tell.
Hodgie - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 05:32 PM EST (#226771) #
"If he played anywhere but San Diego his numbers would likely be consistently in the top 10 or top 5 in baseball."

I have heard this a lot over the last couple of days and it could very well be true. The reason I posed the question was a quick examination of WAR for Gonzalez and Youkilis over the last couple of seasons. WAR, which is park adjusted unless I am mistaken, has Youkilis and Gonzalez as both essentially top 5 1B during that time. They have both been great players, with perhaps Youkilis being somewhat undervalued. While not a true challenge trade in the traditional sense, it gives rise to the situation that Gonzalez had better out perform what Youkilis would have given the Sox AND Youkilis had better provide at least as much value as Beltre at the hot corner for the trade to provide significant value.

Alex Obal - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 05:33 PM EST (#226772) #
If the Nationals offered Werth's contract for nothing tomorrow, would anyone take it?
CaramonLS - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 05:54 PM EST (#226773) #
You give that kind of money to a guy who is going to be 32 during the first month of the season?

Disturbing contract to say the least. 

Dave Till - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 06:01 PM EST (#226775) #
Do you think that Jason Frasor will be able to use Werth's contract as a bargaining chip in his arbitration hearing? After all, Frasor was once traded even-up for Werth.

:-)

Alex Obal - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 06:16 PM EST (#226776) #
The US economy being what it is (sports bubble, mhmm?), you could argue this is a risky time to hand out seven-year contracts, full stop.
brent - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 06:27 PM EST (#226777) #
Alex, no one would take that contract because Washington obviously was the highest bidder. It's not like buying out arb years or getting a team friendly contract. This is the free market value of Werth.
Alex Obal - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 06:42 PM EST (#226778) #
Right. That also implies we're living in a universe where Jayson Werth is worth more to the Washington Nationals than to any other team.
Ron - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 06:43 PM EST (#226779) #
Have you ever wanted to meet Snider, Arencibia, Cecil, Romero, Farrell, Walton, Campbell, or Martinez? You will (maybe) get your chance during the Jays Winter Tour.
http://toronto.bluejays.mlb.com/tor/fan_forum/winter_tour.jsp#tab4

The Jays are heading to Kitchener, Waterloo, Calgary, and Vancouver. If you live in Vancouver, you can meet Romero and Cecil at Oakridge Mall.
bmac - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 07:22 PM EST (#226780) #

Rosenthal says now Jays are on Grienke's no-trade list

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22297882/26225676

brent - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 07:22 PM EST (#226781) #

It only has to be perceived by Washington that way. They may also know they are overpaying but can't get top FA players to take their money to play for them.

I'm not trying to defend that it's a good or smart deal, but they did it and it probably will affect other deals for players. Deals like Buck's are worse though, paying good money for okay players.

Mylegacy - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 07:49 PM EST (#226782) #
On Grienke

Grienke has now said he'll accept any trade anywhere.

While I would be pi**ed it we traded Snider in a Grienke package - if AA does that I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that our scouts see something in Grienke that makes them think he can be an Ace going forward in the AL East. If they're proved wrong - then I'll come after AA with my recently sharpened Swiss Army knife.

LouisvilleJayFan - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 08:09 PM EST (#226783) #
"Please Don't Trade Travis Snider" off-season continues...

with the above noted, PLEASE don't  trade Travis Snider!
Original Ryan - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 08:12 PM EST (#226784) #
I wouldn't worry about a potential Drabek and Snider for Greinke trade.  Those names came from a Bob Elliott story, it sounded like Elliott was just speculating on what it might take to land Greinke.  It doesn't appear to be an actual rumour, and it's been blown way out of proportion by the sites that have picked it up.
ZekeBella - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 09:03 PM EST (#226785) #
MLB TR is reporting the Jays are on the verge of trading Shaun Marcum to the Brewers!  http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/12/brewers-close-to-deal-for-shaun-marcum.html
DH - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 09:12 PM EST (#226786) #
I'll assume that Lawrie is coming back this way, in which case I'm a fan. 285/.346/.451 for Double-A Huntsville as a 20 year old. There do seem, however, to be some questions as to his future at 2b.
andrewkw - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 09:14 PM EST (#226787) #
So Marcum is the PTBNL :)

ZekeBella - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 09:20 PM EST (#226788) #
Could this be the setup for the Greinke trade?
Richard S.S. - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 09:24 PM EST (#226789) #

This link might not last long http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=344366 , but it suggests reasons for acquiring Zach Greinke.

1) If Andy Pettitte retires, is New York in trouble?   If Cliff Lee and 'wifey' decide on staying in Texas, is New York in trouble?   If Zach Greinke is traded to Team B and no longer available, is New York in trouble?   If Carl Pavano is the best available Starter, is New York in trouble?   I think they might even finish 3rd.

2) Tampa Bay is hurting and it's getting worse.   Estimates of a $50.0MM to a $60.0MM salary ceiling has them free-falling out of 1st place.   They have a lot of arbitration cases to deal with yet, and still might trade or waive decisions away.   I'm not satisfied the replacements to the departed and departing will be of sufficient caliber this coming year.   As a result, I think Tampa Bay won't finish top two.

3) I believe Toronto can compete this coming year (if you don't, why are you a fan), can be better the next season and even better the following seasons.   We have a narrowing window of opportunity here, in this off-season, that won't come very often.   Our Starting Pitcher was and is good, but not very good.   Our Bullpen was barely just adequate.   Three of our Core players had terrible years, yet we hit well enough to finish much better than projected.   We have a chance.

4) If we have Greinke, no one we compete with will.   None of our budding Aces actually have to be that for the next two or more years.  Of course, having two Aces means your ready for the post-season.

5) http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/12/red-sox-acquire-adrian-gonzalez-1.html means A.A. needs his WOW from these meeting to excite the fan base.   So why not.

And what does this  http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/12/brewers-close-to-deal-for-shaun-marcum.html mean? 

sam - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 09:37 PM EST (#226790) #
I imagine that the deal the prospects coming back must be two of Odorizzi, Jeffress, Rodgers, or maybe that's too much?
Original Ryan - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 09:37 PM EST (#226791) #
Could this be the setup for the Greinke trade?

That was my initial reaction, especially if the report is accurate and the Jays are getting prospects in return.  It could be the first shoe to drop in a three-way trade.

I'm a bit sad to see Marcum go.  He was a very good and very underrated pitcher.  I always enjoyed watching his starts.
greenfrog - Sunday, December 05 2010 @ 10:10 PM EST (#226808) #
If Marcum stays healthy he could be a top 20 starter in the NL next year. He was one of my favourite Jays - nice addition for the Brewers.

Anders - Monday, December 06 2010 @ 10:03 AM EST (#226872) #

I'm not trying to defend that it's a good or smart deal, but they did it and it probably will affect other deals for players. Deals like Buck's are worse though, paying good money for okay players.

Well if you miss on a 3 year 18 million dollar deal, ok, not the end of the world. If you miss on a 7 year 126 million dollar it can cripple an entire franchise. So while I agree in principal that it's better to pay extra for elite talent than for middling talent, Werth is making three times as much for over twice as long as Buck. And let's face it, Jayson Werth is in his 30s and had injury problems - if you could take any player in baseball for the next 7 years, Werth wouldn't be in the top 75.

John Northey - Tuesday, December 07 2010 @ 10:20 AM EST (#227018) #
Agreed completely Anders about Werth. Here is a guy who has been pretty much dumped a couple of times in his career, has suddenly had an amazing peak and now is cashing in after 3 good years and 1 great year. Right as he is hitting age 32 - the age most players start to decline rapidly.

I suspect Werth's contract will look a lot worse than Wells contract in about 2 years if not right away.

Also, I find it funny how people say that a guy who is great at conditioning should have a longer career. If there is one thing you can improve on for a player it is his conditioning habits I would think. Plus guys like David Wells weren't exactly having short careers with big bellies.
bpoz - Tuesday, December 07 2010 @ 11:51 AM EST (#227024) #
HOLD THE PRESSES !!!

I am sure everyone is way ahead of me in this one, since I only just thought of it. Because of J werth, how much is J Bautista going to cost? # of years & Total $.

Mike Green - Tuesday, December 07 2010 @ 12:24 PM EST (#227026) #
JC Bradbury in Sabrnomics supports the Werth deal and suggests that very good players age basically flat.  So, I wondered about Werth's comps and ran a Play Index for age 29-31 with IsoP>.220, HR>85, BB>200, SO>370 which gave me 10 players, Jayson Werth, Sammy Sosa, Carlos Delgado, Mo Vaughn, Pat Burrell, Alex Rodriguez, Dale Murphy, Carlos Pena, Jim Thome and Jeromy Burnitz.  I immediately threw out Mo Vaughn and Pat Burrell on the one side (too big and poor defenders) and Alex Rodriguez and Jim Thome on the other (much better hitters).  The best comp (by far) is Burnitz, who had pretty good years at age 32 and 35 but that was about it.  Murphy would have to be the nightmare scenario for the Nats.  A great player through age 31 (he hit .295/.417/.580 that year), he basically collapsed after.  Sosa had (of course) a higher peak than Werth and lasted to age 34. Delgado held his value pretty well, but had been a much better hitter than Werth through age 31 (OPS+ of 143 vs. 121)

Anyways, if you're looking for evidence that great players age basically flat, you will not find it in my little study (not that this comes as any surprise to anyone aside from JC Bradbury). 

Chuck - Tuesday, December 07 2010 @ 12:29 PM EST (#227027) #

Because of J werth, how much is J Bautista going to cost? # of years & Total $.

Bautista is not a free agent. He will be after 2011. The magntitude of his presumed regression in 2011 will obviously speak volumes about the contract offers he will see.

Alex Obal - Tuesday, December 07 2010 @ 12:37 PM EST (#227029) #
Presented without comment, a line from Bradbury's article on Albert Pujols' next contract:

When league revenues have been growing at a rate of 8-9 percent per year, salaries escalate quickly as the revenue growth rate compounds. In 2019, $27.5 million is going to seem like peanuts.

CeeBee - Tuesday, December 07 2010 @ 02:02 PM EST (#227031) #
I like peanuts.... just a handful will do :)
bpoz - Tuesday, December 07 2010 @ 07:17 PM EST (#227053) #
Hi Chuck... I was talking about J Bautista as a FA for 2012. I would like him to do well in 2011. Would we be able to afford him then as a player with 2 excellent years. Right now he is ours for 2011, the guess is $8mil through Arb for 2011. As you say, whatever he accomplishes in 2011 will determine his FA contract.
One possibility is 2011 Arb and then take the draft picks OR be the highest bidder or whatever it takes to win the J Bautista FA sweepstakes.
Another possibility is extend him now.
Maybe there is something else.

That is what I was suggesting.
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