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Three one-run losses, including one in extra innings, contributed to a 2-6 Monday on the farm.


Durham 7 Buffalo 1

Buffalo, NY
The Rays also had the Jays number at the Triple-A level. Ricky Romero (0-2) was gored for five runs on six hits and five walks in only 3 1/3 innings. The lefty only struck out two and just 37 of his 77 pitches were strikes. Claudio Vargas lasted one out longer than Romero but allowed an inherited run to score. The Bulls ran him over for two runs on four hits and two walks. Like Romero, Vargas also struck out a pair. John Stilson worked two scoreless innings of one-hit relief with one punchout.

The Herd broke the shutout in the fifth when Jose Reyes drove in the lone run with a single. Reyes had two of Buffalo's six hits. Eugenio Velez had a triple and three walks for a perfect night at the dish and stole his 15th base of the year. Anthony Gose had a bunt single and walk but struck out twice. Kevin Pillar singled and walked. Mike Nickeas had the other base hit and was hit by a pitch. Mauro Gomez, Luis Jimenez and Moises Sierra went a combined 0-for-12 in the 3-4-5 spots in the order. Mike McCoy was the fourth member of the 0-for-4 club.


New Hampshire 6 Reading 3

Manchester, NH
The Fisher Cats got on the scoreboard first when Ryan Schimpf led off the second inning with his 14th home run of the season. Kevin Nolan lifted a sacrifice fly in the third to snap a 1-1 tie and a wild pitch later in the frame led to another run. Brian Van Kirk made it a 4-1 game in the fourth by launching a leadoff jack, his second of 2013. Van Kirk tripled in another run in the sixth and he came home on an Adam Loewen double. Loewen, Van Kirk and A.J. Jimenez shared the clubhouse lead with two hits apiece. Loewen and Van Kirk also worked the count to ball four once. Schimpf also had a base on balls. Brad Glenn contributed a single and a walk. Andy Burns and Jon Talley contributed nothing in eight plate appearances. Nolan and Clint Robinson were both 0-for-3 but Robinson got aboard after taking one for the team.

It's nice to see one first-round draft pick not disappoint on the mound. Deck McGuire (4-7) put together a quality start, holding the Phillies to three runs on seven hits over six innings. His K-BB total was 5-0. Lefthander Evan Crawford overcame two hits to pitch a scoreless seventh. Alan Farina tossed a pair of scoreless innings of one-hit ball with two K's for his first save.


Brevard County 4 Dunedin 3

Viera, FL — Scott Copeland (6-3) allowed two baserunners an inning over five frames as the Brewers scored four runs on seven hits, two walks and a hit by pitch. Copeland served up a solo homer in the fifth that broke a 3-3 tie. He only struck out one. Nine of his 12 outs were of the groundball variety. Lefthander Tyler Ybarra faced just one hitter over the minimum in his two frames. His lone blemish was a walk that was more than offset by four punchouts. Dayton Marze had a walk and a K in one shutout inning.

Dunedin came back to tie the game at 3-3 when a K.C. Hobson groundout and bases loaded walks to Pierce Rankin and Shane Opitz knotted things up in the fourth inning. A Nick Baligod single to lead off the fifth was the last Dunedin baserunner of the night as the last 14 batters were retired in order. Rankin and Gabe Jacobo reached twice with singles and walks. Jon Berti, Marcus Knecht and Gustavo Pierre had the other base knocks. Matt Newman drew a walk.


Dayton 7 Lansing 3

Dayton, OH — A game WHIP of 3.25 for Alonzo Gonzalez (2-7). The lefty was cuffed around for five runs on 11 hits and two walks over four innings. His strikeout and groundout totals were five. Justin Jackson and southpaw Griffin Murphy were victimized for unearned runs in their two-inning stints. Jackson allowed two hits and issued three walks with one strikeout. Murphy yielded three hits and walked one.

Dwight Smith Jr. scored the first two Lansing runs. He doubled in the first and eventually scored on a throwing error by the Dragons second baseman. He then socked a solo homer in the fifth. The final run saw Chris Hawkins triple home a Jason Leblebijian double in the sixth. Smith was the only Lugnut with two hits. Carlos Ramirez also got on base twice with a single and a walk. Christian Lopes doubled while Kellen Sweeney singled. Jorge Flores, Kevin Patterson and Aaron Munoz were hitless in a dozen plate appearances.


Salem-Keizer 1 Vancouver 0 (10 Innings)

Salem-Keizer, OR — A great start for "Mayor" Eric Brown went for naught. The Thunder Bay, Ontario native threw a two-hitter over seven shutout innings, struck out eight and did not walk a batter. Nine of his 11 outs in play were on the grass. Matt Johnson sent the game into overtime with two scoreless frames of one-hit ball with one strikeout. Markus Brisker (0-1) took the loss as he gave up two hits and two walks (one intentional) without retiring a batter.

Jordan Leyland
supplied two of Vancouver's five hits, including a double. Nico Taylor also doubled and drew a walk. Brenden Kalfus and Peterborough, Ontario's Michael Reeves had the other base raps. Taylor also drew a walk and stole a base. The amalgamated batting line of Ian Parmley, Andy Fermin, David Harris, Matt Hitt and Jorge Vega-Rosado was an ugly 0-for-20. The C's were 0-for-9 with runners in scoring position and left six on base.


Bluefield 4 Pulaski 2

Pulaski, WV — The Bluef-Jays tied the game at 1-1 when John Silviano homered for the second time this season. A wild pitch plated a Derrick Loveless triple to give the Jays the lead. They broke a 2-2 tie when Silviano doubled home a pair of runs in the ninth. Mitch Nay had a three-hit night while Silviano and Loveless had two apiece. Dawel Lugo and Jesus Gonzalez also delivered base hits with Gonzalez getting his during a pinch-hit appearance for Eric Arce. D.J. Davis, Jorge Saez and Matt Dean all came up with COB in the hit column in 12 at-bats. Arce and Alexis Maldonado were both 0-for-2. D.J. Jones pinch-ran for Silviano in the ninth but did not score.

Lefthander Scott Silverstein was golden with six innings of one-run, four-hit ball. He struck out four with no walks and induced nine groundball outs. Fellow lefty Francisco Gracesqui (1-0) blew the save but vultured the win. He gave up an unearned run on a double that moved to third on a fly ball and then scored on a Dean error at first.  Gracesqui allowed one hit and struck out two. Brady Dragmire pitched a one-hit ninth with a strikeout to get his first save.


GCL Pirates 6 GCL Blue Jays 5

Dunedin, FL — The Jays trailed 4-0 when they finally scored in the fifth, courtesy of a Christian Vasquez walk. Down 5-1, the Jays scored three times in the eighth when Andres De Aza hit a solo homer, Edwin Fuentes doubled home a run and he was tripled home by Anthony Alford. De Aza had an RBI double in the ninth but pinch-runner Thomas Collins III was stranded at second. The only multi-hit game for the G-Jays belonged to De Aza, who also added a walk. In fact, every Jays hitter drew exactly one base on balls except for Koby Kraemer, who managed to hear ball four three times and also took one for the team. Vasquez also wore one with Kraemer. Franklin Barreto, Josh Almonte and Andres Sotillo joined the hit parade. Kraemer and Sean Hurley did not. The Jays were 1-for-10 with runners in scoring position, leaving a baker's dozen runners on the basepaths.

Jesus Tinoco
(0-1) lasted 2 2/3 innings where eight baserunners reached on four hits and four walks. One of his three runs was unearned and he struck out three. Lefty Daniel Lietz stranded two runners for Tinoco but gave up a run on a hit and a hit by pitch. Tyler Gonzales walked one and struck out one in a scoreless frame.  Cale Wine allowed a run on two hits with one strikeout in his one inning. Myles Duvall was victimized for an unearned run on a hit and a walk while striking out one in the ninth. The Jays made four errors in this one with Barreto and Alford booting balls at short and center while De Aza and Vasquez throwing ones away in right and second.


DSL Braves 10 DSL Blue Jays 6


San Pedro de Macoris, DR
— The Jays fought back from a 4-0 deficit and had a brief 5-4 lead before the Braves took the game back for good. Richard Urena plated the first run of a five-run third with an RBI double, Michael De La Cruz drove in two with a base hit and Ronniel Demorizi followed with a two-run base knock. Leudy Garcia doubled home the final run in the fifth. Demorizi and Juan Fuente had two hits apiece. De La Cruz also walked to reach base twice and stole a base. Urena and Deiferson were hit by pitches to go along with their base hits. Juan Kelly doubled while Juan Tejada walked and stole a base.  Javier Hernandez was 0-for-4.

Starter Jhonny Hernandez only lasted two outs with an unearned run charged on his ledger. He walked three and struck out just one. Denis Diaz had an unearned run among the three on his line. He made through 1 1/3 innings, walking one and plunking one with no K's. Manuel Cordova (1-1) also suffered the indignity of an unearned run as the Braves scored five times against him in 2 1/3 innings. He gave up two hits, four walks and a HBP with one strikeout. Lefty Angel Perdomo limited the Braves to a run on four hits, a walk and a plunk while whiffing three.

Boxscores

*** 3 Stars!!! ***



3. Deck McGuire, New Hampshire — Has struck out 76 batters in 83 innings.


2. Brian Van Kirk, New Hampshire
- Three multi-hit games in a row and is batting .371 over his last 10 games.


1. Eric Brown, Vancouver — The former UBC Thunderbird has an 0.96 ERA in three starts.


Tuesday's Probable Starters...

DSL Blue Jays — TBA @ DSL Mets1, 10:30 am ET.
Dunedin Casey Lawrence (4-6, 4.16) @ Brevard County, 10:35 am ET.
GCL Blue Jays — TBA @ GCL Pirates, 12:00 pm ET.
LansingTaylor Cole (4-5, 3.96) @ Dayton, 7:00 pm ET.
Bluefield — TBA @ Pulaski, 7:00 pm ET.
New HampshireRyan Tepera (6-5, 4.43) vs. Reading, 7:05 pm ET.
Vancouver — TBA @ Spokane, 9:30 pm ET.
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ramone - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 10:06 AM EDT (#274971) #
BP's midseason top 50 is out, two Blue Jays made the list: Sanchez at 24 and Osuna at 43.

Others of note: Syndergaard at 23, d'Arnaud at 28 and Marisnick at 40.

Interesting write ups on them but should I not be posting that on here?
Gerry - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 10:37 AM EDT (#274972) #

ramone:

Because it is behind a paywall you shouldn't copy and paste.  You could summarize a comment or two that is significant to you but don't replicate their work.

ramone - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 10:41 AM EDT (#274973) #
Ok thanks Gerry,

On Sanchez they mention unbelievable upside if everything works out, Osuna they like but say his body and lack of projection keep him out of elite status and Syndergaard has top ten potential for next season.
John Northey - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 10:43 AM EDT (#274974) #
Interesting that BP now has Sanchez and Syndergaard above d'Arnaud on their lists.  Two in the top 50 is good (with 30 ML teams one or two is expected) but interesting that the Jays could've had 5 (10%) of the top 50 if various trades had not occurred. 
Mike Green - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 10:53 AM EDT (#274975) #
Sanchez obviously has the stuff to be one of the best pitchers in the league.  His control is coming along.  The major issue is durability- he has not yet thrown more than 90 innings in a season.  He will be turning 21 on Monday, and he's so far thrown 45 innings this year in high A. 

His chance of being a lights-out closer (if the club wanted to do this) is pretty decent.  His chance of being a reliable 200 inning top-shelf starter is very low.  Now, if you had a creative organization and wanted to set him up as part of a tandem, you'd have a much better chance to get 140 very good innings...

Spifficus - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 12:04 PM EDT (#274977) #

This seems to be a bit of a case of a solution in search of a problem. Sanchez has been handled ultra-conservatively, both in terms of innings and in response to injuries. At the same time, I don't recall him suffering any setbacks for any of his issues.

If this goes on a few years and he's still barely cresting 120 innings in a 5 month season, then it might be time to consider alternatives. Also, that he's 20 and in high-A seems like a positive, not a negative.

Thomas - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 12:20 PM EDT (#274979) #
Syndergaard became the youngest pitcher in the Eastern League this year, I believe, with his debut last night. He struck out 7 over 6 innings.
ayjackson - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 12:23 PM EDT (#274980) #
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is Sanchez's first injury, no? And it's not your typical elbow, shoulder or forearm soreness. My understanding is it's a muscle around the shoulder blade. So I'm not sure durability is a legitimate concern yet, his limited innings count is mostly imposed upon him.

As for Osuna, I don't get the lack of projection. He already has a mature body, so he can't develop? He already has a 92-96mph fastball, so no projection is needed there. And to say that his control and offspeed pitches can't develop between the age of 18 and 22 because he already has a mature body is a bit baffling. What am I missing?
John Northey - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 12:24 PM EDT (#274981) #
Sanchez does seem to be handled extremely carefully - 25 IP year one, 54 year 2, 90 year 3, 45 so far in year 4 - however he did miss a month and before that it seemed 25 IP a month was the goal.  If so then another 50 IP and around 100 IP total for the season after losing 25 due to the injury.  That would fit normal goals - 90 + 40 (growth from year 2 to year 3) = 130 and he was on pace for 125 roughly.  That would put him on pace for 160-170 in AA and over 200 for AAA/majors if left down that long.  The missed month hurts but I suspect they'll put him into instructional league to get those 25 innings back.  That puts him perfectly on pace for a full workload by the time he'd be ready for the majors.
Ryan Day - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 12:26 PM EDT (#274982) #
Interesting that BP now has Sanchez and Syndergaard above d'Arnaud on their lists

At this point, the fact that d'Arnaud is clearly cursed must be counted against him.
Mike Green - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 12:36 PM EDT (#274984) #
Sanchez' in-season pattern (so far) has been dominance followed by fade/injury.  Last year, the club didn't give him a start in the playoffs even though he had thrown many fewer innings in the season than Syndergaard. 

Hopefully he comes out strong in the second half and can throw 70 innings over that time frame.  My guess though is that they'll have him go 3-5 innings for several starts, and maybe he will make 50-60 innings during the second half (if healthy). 

Mike Green - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 12:45 PM EDT (#274985) #
Re Osuna, you're missing nothing ayj.  The idea that an 18 year old pitcher in the Midwest League (who has struck out 45 in 36 innings) is limited in projection because it is unlikely that he will add some more mph to an already pretty good fastball reflects a bias towards the hard throwers.  His last outing was pretty poor, and I am (of course) worried about his arm health.  You can probably say that about every pitching prospect.
hypobole - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 12:48 PM EDT (#274986) #
With d'Arnaud, I remember KLaw mentioning that he had downgraded him even prior to his latest injury, although i can't remember exactly why.
ramone - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 12:54 PM EDT (#274988) #
Without quoting the BP article exactly in regards to Osuna they basically said he's going to have to work pretty hard to maintain his current body size/shape.
hypobole - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 01:02 PM EDT (#274989) #
Lack of projection has little to do with secondary offerings. Projectable pitchers have body types, often skinny and broad-shouldered, that can be expected to fill out and add extra mph's to their fastballs simply due to the weight gain.
ramone - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 01:06 PM EDT (#274990) #
Also I wanted to add I've been watching the Bisons a fair amount these past few days, (home allot rehabbing from surgery)and Kevin Pillar is really fun to watch. Absolutely grinds out at bats, lots of 3-2 counts and fouls off allot of tough pitches, he's taken a few walks already as well. Also in the OF he has no regard for his safety, saw him crash into CF wall on a dead run one game.
Gerry - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 01:42 PM EDT (#274991) #

I wonder why Tyler Ybarra is still in Dunedin. 

Ybarra - last 10 appearances - 18 IP, 2 H, 7 BB, 25 K's.

Mike Green - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 02:08 PM EDT (#274993) #
Lack of projection has little to do with secondary offerings. Projectable pitchers have body types, often skinny and broad-shouldered, that can be expected to fill out and add extra mph's to their fastballs simply due to the weight gain.

That definitely is the scouting theory.  Like most scouting theories, it betrays a one-dimensional understanding of the game. Young pitchers become better sometimes because they add mph to the fastball, sometimes because they refine a secondary pitch such as a change, sometimes because they develop better control...
Hodgie - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 02:20 PM EDT (#274995) #
Gerry, if you get the opportunity the next time you are speaking with Dane Johnson, can you please ask him whether the Jays are planning to incorporate Jamie Evans' program across the minor league system? Given the initial success they have experienced with the program at the big league level, I am curious to see if they use it across the organization as a development tool and potential deterrent against injury.
ayjackson - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 02:20 PM EDT (#274996) #
It just seems kind of stupid that an 18 year old's scouting report says he "lacks projection" because he already throws the fastball 95mph.
Mike Green - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 02:29 PM EDT (#274997) #
My impression is that Osuna sits at 92-93 and occasionally touches 95.  The scouts say he lacks projection because there is little hope that in 4 years he will sit at 95 and touch 97-99, as if this is the only way that a pitcher can improve.  Statheads have their silliness, scouts have theirs...What scouts really mean is: "we have no particular reason to believe that a pitcher of Osuna's size will improve, but we don't really know; we have reason to believe that an 18 year old with a projectable frame will improve." The phrase "lack of projection" implies definitiveness which isn't really there.
finch - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 02:46 PM EDT (#275000) #

CC Sabathia is doing quite well considering his body type. And I believe he hasn't had any significant injury. I think Osuna will reach the majors at the age of 20. His ceiling will be a number 2 starter winning 12-14 games a year with a good K/BB ratio.

In my opinion, he should be a top 25 prospect given his age/level and his results. Kid is damn good!  

Ryan Day - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 02:47 PM EDT (#275001) #
It would seem that if Osuna isn't in super-elite shape, he has room to improve just by strengthening his workout/nutrition regimen. Maybe not, of course; maybe he's a David Wells type guy who's not a fit & toned specimen, but has the strength & flexibility where he needs it.

It also seems inconsistent to say that with Osuna, what you see is what you get, while few people question whether Sanchez's obvious control problems will improve.
hypobole - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 02:53 PM EDT (#275002) #
There seems to be a comprehension issue here. Projection only deals with fastball speed. "Lacks projection" doesn't mean non-prospect. A pitcher with no projection can still develop their secondaries, they can learn to add movement to their fastball, they can improve their control and command - they can become an excellent pitcher. What they don't do is add mph simply by filling out their bodies, because their body type is already filled out.
Mike Green - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 02:58 PM EDT (#275003) #
Except the phrase "lacks projection" leads to "not as high an upside"...The scouting lingo suggest definitiveness where everything ought to be qualified.  Osuna has very "upside".  He could be the best pitcher of his time.  Maybe he'll turn out to be better than Greg Maddux. Obviously I am not holding my breath.  Equally, Aaron Sanchez might be better than Roger Clemens, but I am not rushing out to place bets on that either.
jerjapan - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 03:08 PM EDT (#275006) #
Also I wanted to add I've been watching the Bisons a fair amount these past few days, (home allot rehabbing from surgery)and Kevin Pillar is really fun to watch. Absolutely grinds out at bats, lots of 3-2 counts and fouls off allot of tough pitches, he's taken a few walks already as well. Also in the OF he has no regard for his safety, saw him crash into CF wall on a dead run one game.   Reed Johnson v.2 ... I love players like this.  Good to hear, and how do the rest of the Bison's look at the moment?   Good luck with your rehab!
ayjackson - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 03:18 PM EDT (#275008) #
"There seems to be a comprehension issue here. Projection only deals with fastball speed. "Lacks projection" doesn't mean non-prospect."

Yes, while I didn't take it to mean "non-prospect", I think I did hang on the term a bit too much. I think they're still very high on him, just noting that he misses out on the elite upside that Sanchez and a few others have because of a perceived potential to work in the mid-to-high 90's with the fastball.
uglyone - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 03:40 PM EDT (#275013) #
Syndergaard is so good. We'll miss him much more than D'Arnaud, I'm guessing.
hypobole - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 03:57 PM EDT (#275018) #
My biggest issue with Osuna is the Mark Prior-type high elbows delivery. This is a huge red flag indicating arm lag. He already has a UCL injury - will he be able to stay healthy enough to realize his potential?
Mike Green - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 04:08 PM EDT (#275020) #
That is completely fair.  I have concerns about Sanchez' health too, but I am certainly not a biomechanics expert.
ramone - Tuesday, June 25 2013 @ 04:13 PM EDT (#275021) #
"Reed Johnson v.2 ... I love players like this. Good to hear, and how do the rest of the Bison's look at the moment? Good luck with your rehab!"

Thanks Jerjapan, AA was actually on the Bisons broadcast last night, he said Gomez was a real find and they want to try him at 3rd and think his power bat plays well there. Gose looks just terrible, often striking out on 3 or 4 pitches, when I watch at least. I saw Goins makes a few great plays at short before Reyes took his spot but he seems pretty average at the plate. Stilson when on is filthy, but I've seen him the next outing have really poor command of his fastball. Sierra to me hacks at everything thrown his way. Obviously I'm no scout and these are just the thoughts of a fan who in his wife's opinion watches too much baseball :)
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