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The homestand wraps up with the Guardians in town.

So it was Wednesday evening, and I'd just watched Yariel Rodriguez stumble through the top of the first. The Jays were down 2-0 before they even came to bat for the first time. I sighed, and started flipping channels. Could Tampa Bay extend the Battle of Florida, and give the Leafs a little help? (They could not.) Could the Habs live to fight another day before their inevitable defeat? (They could not.) Could those old Warriors dispatch the Rockets and possibly give us one last Steph-LeBron showdown? (They could not, and an extremely tall Frenchman made the entire question moot a couple of hours later.)

I checked in on the Jays, who were now trailing 4-0. Chad Green entered the game and gave up his customary home run. So now it was 6-0. I repaired to the back yard to smoke a pipe and listen to some tunes. And lo, there was a text from Eephus. He was at work and wondered how the Jays were doing. "Have a guess" I replied. (He went with "Down 4-1," which was reasonably close.)

And then... and then... he sends this:

Are we at a point where we can compare April to the very worst offensive months in team history?

The wicked, wicked boy. He knows me well. How could I possibly resist pursuing such a dismal line of inquiry? No chance whatsoever, and for a brief moment I grimly contemplated the heavy lifting that would be required, poring through the monthly records for 49 seasons. And then - I remembered! I've done this already!

Well, not all of it. But certainly up to 2015, as I had previously embarked on a quest to determine whether August 2015 was the most dominant month in franchise history. (Long story short - you bet it was.) I don't delete those old spreadsheets - experience has taught me I may need them again some day. It only took about ten minutes to bring this one up to date, and I can now respond to this enquiry with facts and numbers and - wait for it - a Data Table.

It was not the worst offensive month in franchise history. Not quite. But it was really, really bad.

Let's eliminate all the partial months, the handful of games played in March or October. I suppose I could attach them to their neighbouring month, but that's a messy procedure and much more work than I feel like doing. The Blue Jays played 25 games this April. That's enough! It's a normal month. I don't need the five they played in March, which is well on its way to becoming a Baseball Month of its own. And in fact, the schedule pages on bb-ref do treat March and October as separate months, and that's where I pulled the data. (The problems come later, because when it comes to monthly splits - for players, teams, and leagues - bb-ref does attach March to April and October to September. A little consistency, if you don't mind!)

So for now I'm setting the bar at 15 games to constitute a month. This also eliminates June 1981 and August 1994, the two partial months created when the players went on strike. And we're left with 280 months of Blue Jays baseball. And the worst offensive performance came way back in the expansion days, and dear reader, you may want to Avert Your Eyes. The 1978 Blue Jays scored a pitiful 62 runs in 25 September games - that's 2.48 Runs Per Game - while posting a grisly 4-21 record to conclude - almost - their second season. Just as August 2015 was the only time in franchise history that the team scored twice as many as they allowed (170 to 83), September 1978 was the one time the team allowed twice as many as they scored (126 to 62). I'm sure no one noticed - after all, the Yankees and Red Sox were engaged in one of the most famous and memorable pennant races of all time while this was going on. 

It's one of those masterpieces that needs some time and distance to truly be understood. How did such a thing happen?

Well, for starters, the Jays had traded away their best hitter in mid-August. That was their 38 year old DH, Rico Carty. We can't blame them for that. An old DH, and especially one with the knees of a senior citizen, is of little use to a team about to lose 100 games. If someone else wants him - and the Oakland A's did - you take whatever you can get. Which turned out to be a pitching prospect (Phil Huffman) and the old, slow DH that Carty would replace in the Oakland lineup (Willie Horton.)

So that didn't help. But it was mostly a case of the regular lineup being really, really bad.  This is the September batting line for everyone who appeared in the starting lineup for the 1978 Blue Jays during those awful 25 games. You'll notice, if you're really looking closely, that McKay and Gomez appeared in 26 games. That's bb-ref including October games in their September splits. The 1978 Jays played one game in October. Of course, they lost. Luis Tiant tossed a two-hit shutout. No Blue Jay even made it as far as second base. It was an important game, by the way. Boston needed the win along with a New York loss to Cleveland to force a playoff for the AL East title. These things came to pass, and there was indeed a playoff. You've probably heard about it. I may even write a Game Story about it some day, because it was a doozy.

But back to our main subject, and in  the immortal words of Tim the Enchanter, if ye be not Men of Valour, go no further. Consider yourselves warned. Because it's time to step out on the Bridge of Death over the Gorge of Eternal Peril and gaze deep, deep into the abyss.

Player           G    PA    AB    R    H    2B   3B   HR  RBI   SB   CS   BB   SO    BAVG     OBP     SLG    OPS
                                                                    
Rick Bosetti    25   111   106    6    22    4    1    1    5    1    0    4   18    .208    .243    .293    .536
Dave McKay    26    95    89   10    20    3    1    2    4    0    1    6   12    .225    .274    .348    .622
Bob Bailor    23    92    84   10    19    4    3    0    4    0    0    5    3    .226    .294    .345    .639
John Mayberry   22    80    76    3    13    2    0    1    6    0    0    4    8    .171    .213    .237    .449
Roy Howell    16    69    60    9    15    0    0    3    4    0    0    8    6    .250    .338    .400    .738
Otto Velez    18    68    58    4    13    2    1    2    5    1    0    9   10    .224    .324    .397    .720
Alvis Woods    19    68    65    3    12    2    1    0    1    1    1    3    6    .185    .221    .246    .467
Luis Gomez    26    67    62    1    12    1    0    0    6    0    1    2    4    .194    .219    .210    .429
Willie Horton   16    56    54    5    10    3    0    2    9    0    0    2   19    .185    .214    .352    .566
Alan Ashby    15    51    44    2     6    3    0    0    2    1    0    7   5    .136    .255    .205    .459
Rick Cerone    11    41    39    2    7    1    0    1    5    0    0    1    5    .180    .200    .282    .482
Willie Upshaw   11    34    31    1    7    0    0    0    3    1    0    3    2    .226    .294    .226    .520
Doug Ault    10    28    24    2    7    0    0    2    3    0    0    4    2    .292    .393    .542    .935
Butch Alberts    6    18    18    1    5    1    0    0    0    0    0    0    2    .278    .278    .333    .611
Sam Ewing    10    14    12    2    2    0    0    1    2    0    0    1    3    .167    .214    .417    .631
Tim Johnson    15     6    6    0    1    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    1    .167    .167    .167    .333


This wasn't 1968 or anything like that. It was a normal enough year. The American League batted .261 that year. The league OnBase was .326, the league Slugging was .385.

In just one other month in team history have the Blue Jays failed to average a measly 3 runs per game. That was also back in the Bad Old Days - it was September 1981, and I was expecting to see that 1981 squad turn up at some point, as I have always regarded it as the most putrid lineup in team history. The 1981 team managed to go 11-15 that September anyway, mostly because Dave Stieb started seven games and went 4-1, 2.09 (he lost a 1-0 game, because that was his life back then.)

So those two teams, okay. But... through five innings on Wednesday, the 2025 Blue Jays had scored 74 runs in their 25 April games. You can do the math - had Lucas Giolito and the Red Sox bullpen been able to hold on for another 12 outs, we would have had a third Blue Jay team achieving this extremely dubious feat. The sudden homer barrage spared them that distinction, but it wasn't enough to get them out of the Bottom 10. Which I will now reverse, and present as the Top 10 Months of Blue Jays Offensive Futility.

Month        Year    GP    W    L     RS    R/G
                        
September    1978    25    4    21    62    2.48
September    1981    26   11    15    75    2.88
June    1979    30   12    18    90    3.00
June    2010    26    9    17    80    3.08
September    1977    30    8    22    93    3.10

August    2012    28    9    19    89    3.18
August    1981    19    9    10    61    3.21
April    2025    25   11    14    81    3.24
May    1979    28    5    23    91    3.25
August    2014    26    9    17    86    3.31

None of these teams were bound for glory. Six of the ten teams are from the early expansion era, before Bobby Cox came to town, so you can depend on them being awful. But not all of the ten were terrible teams, and those other three - 2010, 2012, 2014 -  weren't even terrible hitting teams. They all ended up scoring about as many runs as the average AL team. If not more. The 2010 club finished up at 85-77 in Cito Gaston's last ride around the park. That team actually had a pretty good offence, based on the tested and true formula of hitting lots and lots of home runs. Lots of home runs. The 2010 Blue Jays hit 257 of them, which led the major leagues, the minor leagues, and probably most fantasy leagues by a considerable margin. Jose Bautista was driving that bus, with a team record 54. Bautista's one slump that season (.179/.324/.369) happened to come in June, and the offense shrivelled up and died without him. It wasn't a great offense - that team really didn't do anything besides hitting home runs, but they hit enough of them to be a little above league average in scoring runs. There just weren't enough people on base. They had just  one player who was significantly above average in that part of the game, and that was.... yup, it was the same guy suffering through that June slump.

Something similar happened in 2012. That team was puttering along at .500 (45-45) when Bautista injured his hand (checking his swing against the Yankees, if I remember rightly.) He played in just two more games the rest of the way. But even that team scored 677 runs (league average was 688.)

The 2014 team looked for a while to be a contender. They were 60-50 when the trading deadline came and went at the end of July, and were just a game and a half back of the first place Orioles. But Edwin Encarnacion was in the middle of a six week absence with a quad injury and the team - to the surprise of many, especially in the clubhouse - didn't make any upgrades at the deadline.  They promptly stopped hitting, and stopped pitching and fielding while they were at it. After losing 16 of their next 22 games, they were 10 games back of the division lead by the time September came along. Even so, August notwithstanding, this was actually a good offensive team. They would end up scoring 723 runs, and only three AL teams scored more often. They just didn't score any in August.

So that's my somewhat surprising takeaway from all of this. Of the ten worst hitting months in franchise history, six came from the early expansion days. But the others were all the work of decent (or better) lineups simply having a random bad month. 

So let us hope this is what we will tell our grandchildren about April 2025. Not that I have any, I'm much too young and pretty.

Oh, right. Cleveland. Well, I got matchups!

Fri 2 May - Allen (1-2, 4.21) vs Bassitt (2-2, 2.62)
Sat 3 May - Williams (2-2, 5.14) vs Gausman (2-3, 4.50)
Sun 4 May - Bibee (2-2, 4.36) vs Francis (2-4, 5.28)
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92-93 - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 11:31 AM EDT (#459546) #
Some good signs of life in Kirk's bat lately. The Jays face a lefty tonight, so it wouldn't be a surprise if they DH Kirk and give Varsho a rest.

All 10 runs the Jays scored outside extra innings the last two games came via the HR.

Rodriguez isn't helping much out of the bullpen. Is it time to send him down and see if he can contribute as a starter?
Nigel - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 12:41 PM EDT (#459551) #
I don't know what the right answer is with Rodriguez. I don't think he's got a way to get major league hitters out consistently as a starter (his slider and splitter are just way to inconsistent). To me, the best way to use him is to let him throw as hard as he can for an inning or so as a reliever - pure velocity may be his best path. I agree though that if you want to use him as a starter he has to go to AAA and work on his secondaries and let him build up some innings.
Kelekin - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 01:50 PM EDT (#459555) #
Whether Yariel is a starter or reliever, he'd be best served getting regular innings, and the best place to do that right now is AAA.
Cracka - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 01:55 PM EDT (#459556) #
Rodriguez signed a very unique contract. He can only be sent to the minors with his permission. He has significant incentives for reaching certain innings thresholds each season: $100k EACH for 130, 140, 150, 160, and 170. He also has incentives to finish games: $50k each for 30, 40, 50, and $100k for 60. I don't know what to make of all of this... he'd probably agree to go to Buffalo briefly to get stretched back out, but the team hasn't seemed inclined to use him as a true starter despite several opportunities. He's only thrown 30+ pitches once (opening day), so he's not even really a long reliever at this point. At this point, he's a very expensive low-leverage arm...

Separately, I'm wondering if Michael Stefanic is going to get a shot soon. He's now in his 3rd year of being above .450 OBP in AAA. We need another infielder and another RH bat, and Alan Roden doesn't really have a role right now. There wasn't really a spot for him on the 40-man roster until yesterday, but Erik Swanson had a setback and now is a candidate for the 60-day IL. We're facing LH starters in 3 of the next 6 games... maybe now is the time to give him a shot?
Waveburner - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 02:13 PM EDT (#459557) #
I think that is a good idea Cracka, Stefanic seems worth a shot and Roden has just been awful.
His actual line is terrible at .181/.256/.264 but even more concerning is that his contact quality is so awful than his expected stats are even worse than his actual line. He is just utterly overmatched right now and the team has too many outfielders.
I like Roden long term, but he is not showing any signs of being a Major League hitter.
John Northey - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 02:29 PM EDT (#459558) #
Agreed Cracka - Roden needs to play in AAA and get hot before getting to continue his rookie year imo (a 50 OPS+ just doesn't cut it over 82 PA). Might as well leave Barger out there in RF with that killer arm vs LHP, 3B when a RHP is on the mound. See if his bat can get going (44 OPS+ right now). Call up Stefanic to be the backup IF and move forward. My gut says the Jays keep it as is for a bit longer - get Roden up to 100 PA before sending him down. It is strange how little anyone complains about Roden - that is an ugly batting line 181/256/264 from a corner OF is unacceptable.

Rodriguez and Schneider might be an attractive combo for a team out of it that thinks they can unleash the potential in them (assuming the Jays eat some of Yariel's contract). Not sure who they could trade for that would be useful (3B or corner OF) but there is bound to be someone out there - ideally on the last year or two of their deal. Given how cheap and bad the ChiSox are Andrew Benintendi might be available (112 OPS+ this year, 104 lifetime, was a quality fielding LF at one time, 20 HR last year, owed $17.1 this year, $17.1 next, $15.1 in 2027, currently in his age 30 season). The options are very limited, most decent players on bad teams are young and/or controllable for years so they won't trade those guys.
mathesond - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 03:01 PM EDT (#459559) #
I found it amusing (in the 'baseball is amusing' kind of way), that in September '78, Roy Howell had all of 4 RBI, when the previous September he had 10 RBI in one game (against the eventual WS champion Yankees, no less). And he had 3 HR to help him get to 4 RBI.
SK in NJ - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 03:13 PM EDT (#459560) #
I agree with letting Rodriguez throw as hard as possible for one inning and hope for the best. If he turns into even an above average reliever, then it's not terrible value at $6M a year, though obviously not someone you'd want to be paying that type of money based on current performance.

Barger starting in RF tonight against a LHP. I'm glad the team is giving him a real shot. He passes the eye test, and the underlying numbers are very strong as well. Whether he's an actual breakout candidate remains to be seen, but you can't fake exit velocity and bat speed, plus he hasn't been chasing as much this time around. I like him more than Roden at this point.
Marc Hulet - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 03:41 PM EDT (#459561) #
Now is the time to DFA Davis Schneider. He's not hitting at all in AAA so no one is likely to claim him outside of maybe Pittsburgh so he stays in the system and you have room on the 40-man for Stefanic.
Kelekin - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 03:45 PM EDT (#459562) #
11 outfielders on the 40-Man is objectively hilarious.
jerjapan - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 03:55 PM EDT (#459563) #
Great read Magpie! 

I could see Schneider getting the DFA.  Berroa is another option, but he seems to have more utility as a bench piece. 

Y-Rod was a high leverage reliever in Japan, no?  If they feel those secondary pitches aren't working with big league hitters, I like just leaving him in the pen, see if he can get a good run going.  Too soon to see him as a sunk cost. 

Little has to be seen as a successful reclamation project for the FO, and we have had far too few of those.  The arms they've been cycling through as the 8th guy this year have been overwhelmingly awful.  I know not to expect much, but yeesh. 

Everyone is talking up Barger's approach - the radio guys as well as TV.  He is definitely turning heads.  I was pleasantly surprised by his D last night at 3rd. 

Roden, on the other hand ... consensus remains high on the kid, but he's struggling.  With so many OFers, swapping him out for Stefanic would make sense. 
Nigel - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 04:08 PM EDT (#459564) #
That was a great read Magpie. As someone who sat in the LF bleachers in the old Ex on at least a couple of nights in September 1978 I can confirm those were bleak days indeed. The excitement and newness of the expansion year had worn off and the reality of sucking for a while had begun to sink in. Plus, (and I tried to find the exact game without luck) Alvis Woods put on one of the single worst outfielder fielding exhibits I have ever witnessed on one of those nights (misplayed balls, throwing to the wrong base, etc.). I ended 1978 with my love of the game highly damaged.
92-93 - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 04:23 PM EDT (#459566) #
Tonight's game features the 23rd (CLE) best offense vs. the 26th. The Indians are 18-13 with a 13-18 Pythag.
Petey Baseball - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 04:49 PM EDT (#459567) #
I’m glad my prediction in Spring Trianing that people should calm down about Alan Roden and that he’s Kevin Barker (no reason for that name, I just listen to his show) came true.

For the trillionth bleeping time, stop reading so much into Spring performance.
soupman - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 05:15 PM EDT (#459568) #
Roden struggled at AA, but hit well at all the other levels until now. Is that because he was facing the stereotypically better velocity you see in AA? I haven't watched enough actual games, but from what I've seen that seems to be an issue for him.
Kelekin - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 06:00 PM EDT (#459569) #
Roden struggled at AA because they tried to completely change his mechanics and it took him a while to adjust.

He's not the first to struggle to adapt to the ML level. I strongly believe he has what it takes to be a major league bat.
uglyone - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 06:04 PM EDT (#459570) #
Is Santander can suck epic ass for 100pa so can a rookie.
GabrielSyme - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 07:00 PM EDT (#459572) #
Interesting to see Barger getting a start against a lefty. Although the only configuration to get another right-handed bat into the lineup would be to go Straw/Springer/Santander in the outfield, move Kirk to DH and put Heineman behind the plate, so perhaps Barger's start isn't indicative of anything other than a desire to give Varsho a day off and a lack of right-handed options.
Petey Baseball - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 08:09 PM EDT (#459573) #
Well with Allen getting strike calls a foot off the plate down, away and in, it’s a wonder he’s not pitching a perfect game. Just brutal, brutal stuff.
greenfrog - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 08:34 PM EDT (#459574) #
What an incredible start to the season for Springer. Credit to uglyone, who was probably the leading “Springer could still be good” voice in the off-season.
Petey Baseball - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 08:50 PM EDT (#459575) #
Barger’s leg kick just makes his swing so unbalanced and herky jerky. Count me completely unimpressed.
lexomatic - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 09:10 PM EDT (#459576) #
Our old friend Santana doing damage again.
uglyone - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 09:33 PM EDT (#459577) #
it's painful to watch the kids struggle and maybe that makes Lukes patient controlled approach look all the better.

I'm a Lukes fan. Lacks a lot of pop, and I don't know if he can hit lefties, but he's a useful player imo.
SK in NJ - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 10:02 PM EDT (#459578) #
Lukes surprisingly projects pretty well for a 4th outfielder. Would have no issues if he stayed on with Roden going down. The issue is they really need two of the Buffalo guys to pan out, preferably one who can play 3B and the other in the OF. Have to hope Barger’s underlying numbers eventually turn into actual numbers. That would certainly help.
99BlueJaysWay - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 11:05 PM EDT (#459579) #
Cheer up, chums! The team has won 3 in a row!
John Northey - Friday, May 02 2025 @ 11:52 PM EDT (#459580) #
Right now the Jays are fun to watch - late inning charges, amazing defense at times, key players coming back. Enjoyed watching Scherzer on the bench acting like every pitch was a coin flip as to ball or strike. If the ump had seen that he'd have been kicked out quickly I suspect. Good to see Francis and Lucas (I think) beside him during the game.

Leaders - Little leads the majors in games pitched at 17 in 32 games, Hoffman leads the AL in games finished at 13 (a NL'er has 14. For a surprise, Chad Green is tied for 4th in caught stealing with 3 despite being a reliever.

Just fun to look at that stuff sometimes. Super early so it just says the Jays are really counting on Hoffman and Little right now. Gotta say Fluharty is really earning the teams trust right now too though. Once Sandlin is back it'll be a strong big 6 in the pen and if Yariel can just stop nibbling around a big 7, leaving just the mop up role as a 'oh crap' slot. Drastic improvement from 2024. Critical with the 5 hole being a black hole right now, and Francis becoming a pumpkin again.
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