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In this thread, we will talk about some of the players who missed out on the Top 30 as well as some more background on the ins and outs of the Top 30.

Once you get past number seven in the Blue Jays top 30 you start getting into a lot of questions. Number 8, RJ Schreck, could just be a utility outfielder. Jake Bloss, number nine, has to return from Tommy John surgery and number ten, Fernando Perez, doesn't have the strikeout numbers you would like to see from a propect.

By the time you get into the 20's you are in a large pool of "maybe" guys. There are probably 30 players who some evaluators would put in the 21-30 range in their personal top 30's. Several of the players listed below who we dropped from the top 30 could be argued for inclusion.

The Jays do have several highly ranked prospects in their top seven. The system is top heavy but weak in depth. That is why a lot of evaluators rank the Jays system in the bottom half of teams.


Players Removed From The Top 30


The Jays released Orelvis Martinez on September 15th. He had been designated for assignment so 29 other teams could have claimed him. This was after 99 games in Buffalo where he had a .636 OPS. Washington signed him at the end of September but the didn't play a game for them. I don't see any record of him playing winter ball in the Dominican.

The Jays traded Alan Roden, Kendry Rojas, Khal Stephen and Juaron Watts-Brown at the deadline for playoff push help.

Last years top 30 had just one graduate, Mason Fluharty.


The following eight players were dropped off the list but remain in the system.

Jace Bohrofen, number 13 last year, had a bad year in New Hampshire. After playing well in Vancouver in 2024, he just couldn't get going in AA, hitting .204 with ten home runs .

Jon Clase, number 15, got into 34 games for the Jays and hit .210. His Buffalo numbers were ok, hitting .255 with a .738 OPS but there have been several comments about his lack of baseball instincts. He probably has the strongest argument of the dropped players for remaining on the list, he was our number 31.

TJ Brock, number 18, had surgery and missed the season.

Carson Messina, number 20, has never pitched professionally. He was injured this season but the Jays never revealed his injury other than some talk of inflammation. Jays personnel always talked positively about him but we never saw him.

Adrian Pinto, number 21, has always had injury issues. In 2025 he just had 74 at-bats. He just seems too injury prone.

Ryan Jennings, number 24, is still striking hitters out. His K rate in Buffalo was 13.5. His problem is his walk rate, 7.3 per nine innings in Buffalo. He also gave up 9.8 hits per nine so in total having 17.1 base runners per nine is not going to work.

Peyton Williams, number 25, hit .217 in New Hampshire and struck out in 35% of his at-bats. He hit nine home runs in 300 at-bats, not enough power for a major league first baseman.

Dasan Brown, number 27, hit under .200 between AA and short stint in AAA. He hasn't hit above .200 since Vancouver in 2024.


Players of note who missed.

Landen Maroudis returned from Tommy John surgery in 2025. He did not pitch as well as he had before the surgery. Specifically his velocity was down. There is a different regime in charge of the pitching on the farm. Justin Lehr had told Doug Fox that younger guys take longer to recover from the surgery. Maroudis will be working on arm strength through the winter and we will have to see how he returns in 2026. Remember TJ surgery doesn't work for everyone.

Jared Spencer was initially on our top 30 before dropping off. He was on the list long enough to have a write up. Here it is:

Spencer was a top 200 prospect heading into the 2024 draft. The Phillies drafted him in the 14th round but he didn't sign. He had spent three years at Indiana State but for 2025 transferred to Texas where he became their number one starter. His record was 4-1 with a 3.27 ERA and 66 strikeouts in 52.1 innings.

Spencer is 6'3" and throws from the left side. His fastball sits mid 90's, he has a plus slider and a new changeup. Coming into the spring Spencer was a borderline first rounder and his stock was on the rise. But in late April he injured his shoulder and required season ending surgery. The Jays took him in the eleventh round and paid him just $165,000. For example, Blaine Bullard, selected in the next round, was given $1.7M by the Jays.

The problem for Spencer is that shoulder injuries in pitchers do not have a good track record of recovery. The Jays obviously felt they should take the risk on picking him but they didn't pay him as a guy who will be a top prospect. The extent or nature of the shoulder injury and surgery has not been reported. Spencer appears to be still in the rehab phase of his injury and Geoff Pontes of BA suggests Spencer might not take the mound until 2027.

So we wont see Spencer on a roster to start the season. There is a chance we could see him in the second half of the year but that seems to be a 50/50 bet.


Grant Rogers made 28 starts last season, 20 of them in New Hampshire. He pitched to a 4.07 ERA in AA. At this stage his numbers seem a little shy of major league potential but pitchers develop in a non linear fashion so you never know.

Angel Bastardo was the Jays rule 5 selection at the end of 2024. He didn't pitch in 2025 and the Jays thought of sending him to the AFL but he didn't go. He has to spend time on the major league roster in 2026 but if he survives that he could be assigned to the minor leagues.

Nolan Perry made 14 starts for Dunedin in 2024 with an 11.2 SO9. But then Tommy John came calling and he missed 2025. What will he look like in 2026?

Chad Dallas is another TJ recovery pitcher. He was a AAA pitcher before the surgery, another question heading into 2026.

Daniel Guerra is a raw pitcher who started and relieved for Dunedin in 2025. His first half ERA was 4.24 and his second half was 2.03. He is still raw but has an excellent fastball up to 96 mph with a developing slider.

Connor Cooke and TJ Brock are two more TJ recovery relievers who were on or close to the top 30 before their surgeries.

CJ Van Eyk has always been on the fringes of the top 30. In 2025 he made 24 starts even though many think his path to the major league sruns through the bullpen. He had an up and down season but any pitcher in AAA is just a few tweaks away from the major leagues. Van Eyk is known for his curveball which could work in relief.

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#2JBrumfield - Wednesday, January 14 2026 @ 01:34 PM EST (#474515) #
Dasan Brown is no longer in the system. The Oakville, Ontario native just signed with Milwaukee.
uglyone - Wednesday, January 14 2026 @ 02:58 PM EST (#474518) #
TBH, Clase should not just be on the list, but imo should be well up the list.

He's younger than Pinango and outhit Pinango at AAA last year. Heck even the year before he had better AAA numbers than Pinango this year. He had better numbers than Pinango had in AA that year.

And whatever questions you may have about Clase's fielding, there's no doubt his fielding and baserunning upside is much higher than Pinango's.
Mike Green - Wednesday, January 14 2026 @ 03:22 PM EST (#474524) #
Adrian Pinto would be one of my top 30 prospects despite all the injuries and minimal playing time.  At age 21 and 22 in Vancouver, he's added significant power and slugged almost .600 in 160 PAs.  He has hit well enough that he could be a leftfielder if he gets healthy.  In my view, he has a better chance of being a major league player than quite a few of the lower half of the top 30.  

It wouldn't shock me at all if he gets placed in double A to start the season and does well there.  
greenfrog - Wednesday, January 14 2026 @ 04:48 PM EST (#474531) #
I remember reading that the Blue Jays have a pre-draft agreement with one of the top players in (I think) the 2027 IFA class. A precocious hitter from the DR. I can’t remember his name. Not sure if the Blue Jays will be able to hold on to that player after the current CBA expires on Dec. 1, 2026.
Glevin - Wednesday, January 14 2026 @ 05:39 PM EST (#474535) #
I'd have both Clase and Pinto near bottom of list. Seo-jun Moon maybe too. International signings start tomorrow but Jays aren't linked to any top prospects so we'll see how those guys perform first.
mendocino - Wednesday, January 14 2026 @ 05:40 PM EST (#474536) #
? '28 OF Angel Montas 5.7m
mendocino - Thursday, January 15 2026 @ 12:42 AM EST (#474544) #
Jays had a tryout today 2029 C Hank "The Tank" Sandoval
6'0 L/R

https://www.instagram.com/hankthetanksandoval/reel/DTgfMdjEYRS/?hl=en

Google AI
"Hank the Tank" Sandoval refers to Henry "Hank" Sandoval, a young, emerging baseball prospect, often highlighted as a catcher with power (high exit velocity) and potential for the 2029 MLB draft class, who is active on social media showcasing his training and skills, distinct from MLB veteran Pablo Sandoval ("Kung Fu Panda") or baseball legend Hank Aaron.

Who is Hank Sandoval?
A Rising Prospect: He's a young catcher (Class of 2029/2030) gaining attention for his strong arm and hitting potential, as seen in Perfect Game profiles and Instagram posts.
Nickname: Known as "The Tank" for his powerful hitting, demonstrated by high exit velocities in training.
Social Media Presence: Active on platforms like Instagram (@hankthetanksandoval, @themac_10) where he shares workouts and highlights.
jz6pwc - Thursday, January 15 2026 @ 09:39 AM EST (#474554) #
2015 IFA class produced some stars. Go find those scouts and build a staff.

Juan Soto,Nationals,2015,$1.5M
Vladimir Guerrero Jr.,Blue Jays,2015,$3.9M
Fernando Tatis Jr.,White Sox,2015,$700K
Julio Rodríguez,Mariners,2017,$1.75M
Andrés Giménez,Mets,2015,$1.2M
Glevin - Thursday, January 15 2026 @ 09:46 AM EST (#474556) #
Mlb had Vlad ranked 7th, Gimenez ranked 19, Soto ranked 25, and Tatis ranked 30. Top guys and top bonuses never made it. It really is kind of a crap shoot but better organizations tend to do better so there's something there.
jz6pwc - Thursday, January 15 2026 @ 09:54 AM EST (#474559) #
That list is basically the best of the last 10 years. So yeah, big crap shoot. Amazing how much money is spent with a very small percentage of them every being MLB regulars.
June Northey - Thursday, January 15 2026 @ 01:16 PM EST (#474577) #
Glevin - good point on the rankings. Kirk wasn't even ranked, nor was Moreno - both were sub $50k signings iirc (IE: kids just happy to be signed).

FanGraphs has a summary of top IFA up right now. Jays projected to get #11 Juan Caricote, a catcher listed as a 40+ for $1.9 mil. That is all for the Jays in the top 60. No Yankee signings expected, 4 by the O's (#9, 15, 23, 33), 2 by Boston (32 and 56), 3 by the Rays (6, 19, and 47). So not good for the Jays to just have 1, but if they find some birds in the bushes ala Kirk/Moreno then who cares? #51 Cleiner Ramirez is committed to the Mets but might be available as they shifted their budget to a guy the Yankees had set to sign, Wandy Asigen the #1 prospect. So if the Jays have the space, or can trade for it, maybe they can grab Ramirez (an OF who was to get $1.6 mil). Just a shame the Jays couldn't find a way to grab Wandy Asigen as that would've been a coo to take the #1 guy who the Yankees had but dropped the ball on.
GabrielSyme - Thursday, January 15 2026 @ 01:52 PM EST (#474582) #
BA, which definitely has more resources to put into this than Fangraphs, doesn't attempt to rank international signees because it's so hard to get looks at them, even for lots of teams, so I'd put little stock in Fangraphs rankings. And there's nothing wrong with spreading the money out a fair bit either.

BA's signing tracker is up, and they have six names:

Juan Caricote, C, Venezuela ($1.95 million)
Michael Mesa, OF, Dominican Republic ($900,000)
Aneudy Severino, OF, Dominican Republic ($700,000)
Sebastian Casanova, SS, Venezuela
Gabriel Porras, SS, Venezuela
Ayberson Ortega, C, Venezuela
Glevin - Thursday, January 15 2026 @ 03:51 PM EST (#474587) #
https://x.com/i/status/2002089266802012444

Great thread with video of guys Jays are signing.
June Northey - Thursday, January 15 2026 @ 08:55 PM EST (#474594) #
Thanks for the list GabrielSyme - seems BA is the only site with a clean list of it and I haven't given in and paid for that site yet (only so much cash). FG has Caricote as #11 overall, but no others on the top 60. A few more listed there now...

Manuel Parra, RHP, Venezuela
Samuel Orellana, C, Venezuela
Yariel Cordero, SS, Dominican Republic
Alexander Linares, SS, Dominican Republic

It'll be years before we know if any of these guys are boom or busts. But still fun to pay attention to.
mendocino - Friday, January 16 2026 @ 01:40 AM EST (#474645) #
https://www.milb.com/buffalo/roster/transactions/toronto-blue-jays

signed RHP Fayon Dumorne R/R 5'10 205 03/04/06 DR $
signed RHP Sahir De La Cruz R/R 6'1 175 04/10/08 DR $
signed RHP Franiel Severino R/R 6'0 201 11/04/08 DR $
signed RHP Adrian Moreta R/R 6'0 222 11/08/08 DR $
signed RHP Evington Gascon R/R 5'8 205 12/17/08 VEN $
signed RHP Abrahan Diaz R/R ' 180 05/31/09 VEN $
signed C Jose Gori R/R 5'10 206 09/24/08 VEN $
signed C Juan Caricote L/R 6'0 189 11/05/08 VEN $1,847,500 mlb
signed C Samuel Orellana R/R 5'8 170 01/10/09 VEN $
signed C Ayberson Ortega R/R 6'2 185 05/01/09 VEN $
signed SS Ruben Sanchez S/R ' 160 12/13/07 VEN $
signed SS Yariel Cordero L/R ' 165 07/08/08 DR $
signed SS Alexander Linares S/R 5'10 159 02/01/09 DR $
signed SS Sebastian Casanova R/R 5'9 167 02/26/09 VEN $
signed SS Eiker Lothar R/R 6'2 188 04/13/09 VEN $
signed SS Gabriel Porras S/R 5'8 162 04/20/09 VEN $
signed SS Frelian Flores R/R 5'8 155 05/14/09 VEN $
signed OF Aneudi Severino R/R 5'8 203 09/12/08 DR $ 697,500 mlb
signed OF Deret Gonzalez L/R 6'5 225 09/24/08 VEN $
signed OF Luis Nunez L/L 6'0 175 10/09/08 DR $
signed OF Michael Mesa L/L 6'2 209 12/17/08 DR $ 797,500 mlb
Jonny German - Friday, January 16 2026 @ 09:16 AM EST (#474655) #
According to BB-Ref Clase exceeded rookie limits already in 2024.
greenfrog - Wednesday, January 21 2026 @ 10:32 PM EST (#474897) #
Blue Jays on BA’s new top 100:

10. Yesavage
62. Nimmala
66. Parker

Johny King made BA’s “20 prospects who just missed the top 100” list.
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