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Time for 3 in Milwaukee - lets hope everyone survives the trip.

The Jays ER is getting pretty full, but we do have games to play.
  • Game 1 : Gausman vs Misiorowski (RHP) 7:40 PM
  • Game 2 : Cease vs TBD 7:40 PM
  • Game 3 : Corbin vs TBD 1:40 PM
Boy TBD is really busy for Milwaukee eh?

Lenyn Sosa not listed on the Jays active roster yet. Tyler Fitzgerald is, but hasn't played yet. Lukes has a 077 average and a -38 OPS+, Valenzuela is at 52 (next lowest OPS+ on active roster), then Okamoto at 74. Everyone else who is healthy is 100+. I just don't see why Lukes is still getting playing time at this point. There are lots of better options. Yeah, it is just 29 PA but he doesn't exactly have a track record of greatness (96 OPS+ lifetime) and isn't WOW on defense like Straw and Varsho. I like Lukes as a 4th OF but right now he is hitting like a bad hitting pitcher.

The staff has an 11.1 K/9 rate right now (WOW). Lets hope things start smoothing out and we see some wins already. Just 2 1/2 out of 1st despite this slow, injury filled, start of the season. Springer, Barger, Kirk, Ponce, Estrada, all on the IL with Santander, Berrios, Bieber, Francis, Garcia, and Yesavage. Francis & Estrada are just spare parts, but the rest are important keys for the team. Gotta figure the Jays are crossing their fingers that the ER isn't needed this week.
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Gerry - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 04:19 PM EDT (#476719) #
Lenyn Sosa activated, Tyler Fitzgerald optioned.
Glevin - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 04:38 PM EDT (#476720) #
Sosa/Fitzgerald thing is so weird. Didn't even give Fitzgerald an AB in blowout games and now replaced him with someone who has no options and is probably worse. Lukes for Schneider again tonight but I get it because Schenider has trouble with velocity and Lukes is OK and Misierowski has as much velocity as anyone. This might be the worst Jays lineup in a long time though. Going to need a steller Gausman outing.
June Northey - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 06:23 PM EDT (#476722) #
Agreed Glevin - I just don't get it. Fitzgerald (106 wRC+ lifetime) looks to be a decent backup guy (decent defensive stats too, positive every season in the majors), Sosa I don't see any point to having - poor defense, poor offense (outside of HR power - 81 wRC+ lifetime, negative defense every season of his ML career), just nothing there. Very bizarre. Meanwhile Lukes keeps getting chances thanks to ... ummm ... well, he seems like a nice guy but his 90 wRC+ in the post season last year was nothing good, his -37 wRC+ this season is yikes, lifetime 90 wRC+ is 'meh', especially for a guy mainly on the corner OF slots.

Yeah, this makes no sense to me. Lukes really has no right being on this roster right now, let alone getting so much playing time.
Gerry - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 06:44 PM EDT (#476723) #
Trey Yesavage will start for Buffalo tomorrow.

Jose Berrios will start for Dunedin on Thursday.
GabrielSyme - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 06:54 PM EDT (#476725) #
You have to wonder if the Jays think they can help Sosa get more out of the bat... otherwise it seems like like an unnecessary and redundant move. Is Schneider a worse option at 2B than Sosa?

It's way too early to give up on Lukes, in my view. Some bad luck layered on top of a slump. He still has a good balance of skills, it's enough to just give Schneider more playing time while Lukes works himself out of his drought. Nor is there anyone in Buffalo who would be much better: Clase isn't hitting in Buffalo and is unreliable in the field; Pinango has a terrible defensive reputation, would need a 40-man spot, and I don't think is ready even offensively.
Glevin - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 06:59 PM EDT (#476726) #
I don't think Lukes is toast or anything, I just think he's sort of who he was in second half of last year and playoffs which is a 90 WRC+ solid fielding corner OFer. That just isn't a player the Jays should have in their roster as anything more than an up and down guy.
uglyone - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 07:05 PM EDT (#476727) #
fwiw, projections like Sosa (87wrc+) better than Fitzgerald (77wrc+), though neither projects well and neither seems to be much of a fielder.

just stopgaps - but you'd think that's what the likes of Mendoza (88), Lantigua (83), and Kasevich (74) were for.
GabrielSyme - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 07:44 PM EDT (#476730) #
Perhaps an indication of how bad the Jays' pitching development has been in the last decade: the only Jays draftees or signees to start a game this year are Mason Fluharty as an opener, and old friend Matt Boyd, drafted in 2013.

Yesavage will be back, and Joe Musgrove is trying to get back, but that's still a pretty poor track record.
Eephus - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 08:42 PM EDT (#476732) #
Really getting 2023 vibes from this team, as in when they fall behind multiple runs my first impulse is to change the channel.

Gausman is great but with the bats struggling so much the team needs him to be perfect right now, which is a tad unreasonable me thinks.
uglyone - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 09:03 PM EDT (#476736) #
do our pitchers miss Kirk?
uglyone - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 09:12 PM EDT (#476737) #
signs that varsho's power surge is for real.
Eephus - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 09:13 PM EDT (#476738) #
I know Sanchez is 2-2 but this is a moment you really should ph Davis Schneider against the lefty… 6th inning be damned
uglyone - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 09:30 PM EDT (#476740) #
top notch relief from fluharty. that was nice.
Leaside Cowboy - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 09:53 PM EDT (#476741) #
Lenynism.
uglyone - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:15 PM EDT (#476742) #
Schneider demolishes a 98.1mpg heater for a ground rule double.

maybe just play him, i dunno.
uglyone - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:17 PM EDT (#476743) #
Okamoto gets screwed on the strike call (no challenges left?) but comes through huge to tie it up.

still 2 on no out.
uglyone - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:22 PM EDT (#476744) #
okamoto showing surprising speed twice tonight.

first to beat out a grounder and now to get in from second on a hard single to LF by ernie.
uglyone - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:24 PM EDT (#476745) #
ok hoff it's a 2 run lead just relax please.
greenfrog - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:26 PM EDT (#476746) #
Leadoff walk by Hoffman. For the love of…don’t do that
uglyone - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:30 PM EDT (#476747) #
just not cut out for the closer role.

please man hang on.
greenfrog - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:33 PM EDT (#476748) #
Good job to K Sanchez. One out to go.
greenfrog - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:35 PM EDT (#476749) #
Do not like Hoffman falling behind these hitters.
uglyone - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:35 PM EDT (#476750) #
oh man oh man oh man
greenfrog - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:37 PM EDT (#476751) #
Hoff is the worst
Glevin - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:38 PM EDT (#476752) #
Goddamn it. All because of that stupid leadoff walk.
uglyone - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:38 PM EDT (#476753) #
dammit hoffman
scottt - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:41 PM EDT (#476754) #
At least it's entertaining.
uglyone - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:42 PM EDT (#476755) #
can they really go two full seasons just sending him out there to close every time no matter what?
Katie - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:42 PM EDT (#476756) #
What's brewing in Milwaukee is a pair of blown saves.

Losing this game would be a gut punch.
greenfrog - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:42 PM EDT (#476757) #
Feel like he should have come in filling up the zone with fastballs instead of throwing all those so-so sliders out of the zone.
greenfrog - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:44 PM EDT (#476758) #
Why not just have used Varland for the entire ninth?
Nigel - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:45 PM EDT (#476759) #
The evidence of Hoffman being a good major league pitcher was small (not non existent) even before the Jays signed him. So this was always a risk.
scottt - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:46 PM EDT (#476760) #
Sliders to righties. Splitters to lefties.
Glevin - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:46 PM EDT (#476761) #
Hoffman absolutely sucked today but he had a 2.35 ERA and a 1.23 FIP so far this year. Jays were not going to not use him as closer.
Eephus - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:46 PM EDT (#476762) #
Really didn’t want to hear all the “Hoffman isn’t a 9th inning guy” discourse again this year, but the dude really is bringing it on himself with outings like this.

Sigh. Those were some great at-bats by the Brewers though. So credit there.
greenfrog - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:48 PM EDT (#476763) #
Whoa Vladdy crushed that pitch.
uglyone - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:50 PM EDT (#476764) #
maybe straw should actually just play more too.
greenfrog - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:50 PM EDT (#476765) #
The Straw that stirs the drink.
scottt - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:51 PM EDT (#476766) #
Maybe the blown save does more to fire the offense than a save would have.
uglyone - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:53 PM EDT (#476767) #
"Jays were not going to not use him as closer."

3rd blown save this year.
greenfrog - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:57 PM EDT (#476768) #
If Hoffman lost confidence in WS game 7, Varland gained confidence in the postseason last year. He is younger, fresher, and has more dynamic stuff. I could see him taking over the closer role this year.
uglyone - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 10:58 PM EDT (#476769) #
"I could see him taking over the closer role this year."

tomorrow, imo.
BlueJayWay - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 11:02 PM EDT (#476770) #
Rather mundane W tonight
greenfrog - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 11:03 PM EDT (#476771) #
Nailed it. And picked up his fielder Okamoto, who blocked Gimenez from making the game-ending out two batters earlier.
mathesond - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 11:05 PM EDT (#476772) #
Had 'em all the way...
Eephus - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 11:05 PM EDT (#476773) #
Far from a pretty win but you’ll take ‘em however you can get em at this current moment.
prospect - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 11:08 PM EDT (#476774) #
That should be it for Hoffman as the closer, please! Let's see if Varland can handle it.

I had a good feeling about this game even when Gausman gave up 3 runs early. Good thing I stuck through the end. Hopefully we can get it turned around.
greenfrog - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 11:14 PM EDT (#476775) #
Yankees, Red Sox, O’s all lose.
scottt - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 11:14 PM EDT (#476776) #
It's April. Hoffman gets a day off and that's it.

He's got 3 blown saves but only 1 loss.

Hoffman is the vet presence. Varland is the workhorse.
Yimi could get some saves once he's back.

Great game.
Nigel - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 11:15 PM EDT (#476777) #
Huge win. Ugly but huge.
greenfrog - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 11:19 PM EDT (#476778) #
The Blue Jays have the second-worst run differential in MLB. But they’re only 2 games back of first place in the division. Have to keep grinding and eventually start getting some roster reinforcements.
Rich - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 11:32 PM EDT (#476779) #
Yes please to Varland closing. Hoffman loves to nibble and doesn’t trust his stuff so he’s often behind then throws cookies. His command isn’t consistent on good enough. He’s had some very good games against lousy opposition but he’s not trustworthy and the contract was a huge gamble to a guy who’s never closed. He blew game 7 to a reserve and had some very shaky saves in the ALCS. Varland is a better option at least right now.
uglyone - Tuesday, April 14 2026 @ 11:42 PM EDT (#476780) #
Also, I think Heineman has definitely earned playing time last year and this year. This should be his opportunity imo. Valenzuela is likely never more than a backup calibre C anyways.
vw_fan17 - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 12:25 AM EDT (#476781) #
Please, just no more Hoffman comeback tours.. Just DFA him already or make him the long guy or something. He's had like 1 easy save in 50 tries.. Maybe we can trade him for Romano?
pooks137 - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 12:48 AM EDT (#476782) #
Also, I think Heineman has definitely earned playing time last year and this year. This should be his opportunity imo. Valenzuela is likely never more than a backup calibre C anyways.

I don't really see any arguments to play Heineman more over Valenzuela unless the coaches think he can win more games for them in the present.

Heineman was nice found money last year. But he's 34, has little future in the league beyond maybe a swan song as a backup or a second-division starter on the cheap. His 2025 career year offense had great timing. But it also mostly came early in the year before he got concussed.

Valenzuela is 25, has a lot more projection and is theoretically your backup of the foreseeable future.

Unless his defense is unplayable or your pitching staff tells you they hate throwing to him, it makes more sense to give Valenzuela the larger share of the catching duties until he plays himself out of a tryout.

uglyone - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 01:23 AM EDT (#476783) #
I mean Heinemen keeps hitting for us.

Valenzuela isn't hitting, and doesn't really ever project to hit much.

Both are good defensively.
Dr B - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 02:32 AM EDT (#476785) #
Jeff Hoffman was having a fine year thus far with 20 SO/9 and 2.3 BB/9. Until today. Which blew his BB/9 to 5.4. He’s always had a bit of a walk problem. It would be an interesting experiment to have him pitch against Ernie Clement: the unstoppable wild pitch versus the unwalkable batter.

His statcast page tells an interesting story. In 2026 it is fantastic: brimming with red (including 100 percentile for K%). But that’s a small sample size. In 2025 his achilles heels are more apparent: 26th percentile for BB% and 1st percentile for Barrel %. In other words he walked too many and when they connected, batters teed off on him like it was the Augusta Masters.

In any case, one (very) bad outing does not make a season. I can definitely see replacing him as closer as there are arguably better options (depending on whether you think his 2026 performance is real). But even if he’s last year’s version, he's not the worst in the (pretty decent) Jays bullpen.
Michael - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 03:10 AM EDT (#476786) #
Hoffman is better than he looks after a blown save, and still has value, but absolutely Varland is better IMHO.

That said, I don't want Varland as "closer" because Varland should pitch more than a "closer" does. But if it is a tight game (like 1 run game or even 2 run if the heart of the order is up) then bring in Varland over Hoffman, but give Hoffman the other saves and use Varland for more than just saves. High usage fireman, not closer.
greenfrog - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 05:50 AM EDT (#476787) #
Good post. I don’t disagree with your suggestion, Michael, but what if “closer” is an all-or-nothing role under John Schneider (which seems to be the case)? Would you then anoint Hoffman or Varland as the closer?
Joe - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 06:50 AM EDT (#476788) #
If you have to have a closer, then why not make it Hoffman? Varland is also not perfect, despite the fan base deciding that he's obviously better than Hoffman and that the latter should be DFA'd as he's unplayable (DFA'd pitchers frequently have 99-100th percentile whiff, chase, and K% metrics, right ?)

You don't get to close a game unless your fireman (Varland) has saved the most important part of the game, which is frequently not the 9th.
greenfrog - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 08:02 AM EDT (#476789) #
Last night Hoffman got a save opportunity without Varland having pitched in the game.

Varland subsequently came in to "save" Hoffman.
June Northey - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 09:05 AM EDT (#476790) #
Btw, noticed this is the #10 Jays article at Blue Jays Aggregator right now. Won't be for long I suspect, but first time I noticed something I posted reaching the top 10. Nice.
prospect - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 09:09 AM EDT (#476791) #
If you want Varland to remain in his current role, then make Rogers as the closer. I know he is unconventional but he gets the job done. Don't get me wrong, Hoffman is still a pretty good damn pitcher but we have two guys that are more trustworthy and superior right now.
June Northey - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 09:17 AM EDT (#476792) #
Oh, and after all those injuries the Jays are still just 2 games out of 1st. Of course we have a long way to go before those guys are back, but still, given the nightmare of injuries plus a regular with a -42 OPS+, Kirk's fill in having a 37 OPS+ one has to be hopeful (Heineman is at 110 but that probably won't last).

8 hitters with a 100+ OPS+ right now, 2 in the 90's (Clement & Eloy), 2 more in the 80's (Springer & Okamoto). Just Barger & Lukes sub 0.

10 pitchers (3 not active roster) with a 100+ ERA+ (including Hoffman believe it or not). Leaving 9 sub including Heineman and assorted guys not on the roster (Little for example) so 6 who are actually here. 10 guys with 11+ K/9 right now. Ten. Hoffman at 19.4 K/9 (WOW), now if he could just stop walking guys and giving up homers.
scottt - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 09:22 AM EDT (#476793) #
I think Hoffman is sharper when he doesn't go back to back or sit too long between outings.
Not going after the first guy with a 2 run lead was a mistake.

I don't know what the TBD was about, but the next 2 pitchers look like the current rotation regulars.

Chad Patrick throws a ton of 88mph cutters.
He also mixes mostly a 2-seamer and a 4-seamer, the latter mostly to left handed hitters.

Brandon Sproat is one of their top 5 prospect and a top 100 prospect.
He started 4 games last year and 1 this year. It looks like he was their long man on day 1.
He throws a lot of 97mph  2-seamers and many 94 mph cutters. His secondary pitches aren't as good. 

Neither guy seem to get a lot of ground balls.
92-93 - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 10:08 AM EDT (#476795) #
If the Jays had kept Fitzgerald and brought him in for defense in the 9th (with Clement going to third), Hoffman's outing likely looks fine. Okamoto is not a good defender.
bpoz - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 10:40 AM EDT (#476796) #
IMO with the many injuries there is opportunity for part timers to get to regular status this year like D Schneider.
Nigel - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 10:40 AM EDT (#476797) #
Agreed on Okamoto’s defense. It’s not looked good from day 1 of Spring Training. With Springer injured there’s an opportunity to DH him, Clement to third and Schneider to 2B with some frequency.
electric carrot - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 11:21 AM EDT (#476798) #
I did not see the game last night but did check in via gameday a few times during Hoffman's stint. Based on pitch placement it looked like he had trouble finding the zone. For those who saw the game does that compute?
Mike Green - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 11:45 AM EDT (#476799) #
I did not see the game either.  Hoffman's first batter faced was a disaster. With a 2 run lead in the 9th, walking the leadoff batter on 5 pitches, 4 of which were not close, is inexcusable.  Very different than doing that with a 1 run lead- if you groove one and Frelick hits it out of the park, you are only slightly worse off than walking him.   

However, Hoffman so far has an opposition BABIP of .529 and a HR/FB of 25%.  His numbers are 4.32 ERA, 2.38 xERA, 2.20 FIP, 1.13 xFIP.  He has pitched well in general, and it is extremely unusual to be ineffective with a 44% K percentage (which is what he has done so far).  Whether he should be a conventional closer is another question. Just personally, I would want to have a 9th inning specialist to be able to throw a pitch at least within an inch or two of the zone at will when the situation calls for it.  As would be the case for the leadoff hitter with a 2 or 3 run lead.  
Gerry - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 12:03 PM EDT (#476800) #
Hoffman was not sharp, I wondered if he would find it but he never did. He could have been pulled earlier but he is "THE CLOSER".
Nigel - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 12:54 PM EDT (#476802) #
It was a beauty is in the eye of the beholder type outing for Hoffman. He wasn't hit overly hard, he wasn't helped by his defence and the Brewer hitters put together some good ABs. However, his control (and command) were pretty brutal and that looked like trouble from about 4 pitches into his outing.
uglyone - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 12:56 PM EDT (#476803) #
I guess I just don't get what the argument FOR Hoffman as closer is.

He was never a closer before being a jay. As a jay, he's done this:

76.3ip, 4.36era (107era-), 4.61fip (109fip-), -0.1fipwar, -0.2ra9war

that's just plain....bad.

He's blown 10 saves. (not including game 7 world series vs the #9 hitter.)

Every outing is an adventure. He doesn't in any way reduce stress on the pitching staff or mentally shorten games for the bullpen or manager.


Why is he the permanent closer? Does any other good team keep sending out a player performing like this as their undisputed permanent closer? does any bad team even?


Last 2yrs (in order of leverage index when entering the game):

Hoffman: 76.1ip, 1.72li, 4.36era (107era-), 4.61fip (109fip-), 3.47xfip- (83xfip-), -0.1fipwar, -0.2ra9war, -0.1awar65
Little: 72.0ip, 1.37li, 4.13era (101era-), 3.43fip (80fip-), 3.39xfip- (81xfip-), 0.8fipwar, -0.3ra9war, 0.2awar65
Varland: 81.0ip, 1.31li, 2.67era (65era-), 2.95fip (70fip-), 2.93xfip (70xfip-), 1.6fipwar, 1.5ra9war, 1.2awar65
Garcia: 21.0ip, 1.31li, 3.86era (95era-), 3.85fip (91fip-), 3.86xfip- (92xfip-), 0.1fipwar, 0.1ra9war, 0.3awar65
Rogers: 86.0ip, 1.30li, 1.78era (43era-), 2.89fip (72fip-), 3.16xfip- (77xfip-), 1.4fipwar, 2.9ra9war, 1.6awar65
Fluharty: 58.0ip, 1.09li, 4.50era (110era-), 3.71fip (87fip-), 3.95xfip- (95xfip-), 0.4fipwar, -0.2ra9war, 0.1awar65
Fisher: 58.0ip, 0.90li, 1.71era (42era-), 2.48fip (58fip-), 3.26xfip- (78xfip-), 1.2fipwar, 1.6ra9war, 1.6awar65
Nance: 38.2ip, 0.76li, 2.79era (68era-), 2.13fip (50fip-), 2.81xfip- (67xfip-), 0.8fipwar, 0.3ra9war, 0.9awar65
Lauer: 30.2ip, 0.72li, 1.76era (43era-), 2.61fip (61fip-), 4.00xfip- (96xfip-), 0.6fipwar, 0.9ra9war, 1.6awar65


I really don't know - how many other teams keep this level of performance as their permanent closer?



scottt - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 01:01 PM EDT (#476804) #
He seemed hesitant to use the fastball, but the velo was good 96-97mph.
His splitter seems to be consistently outside.
Gaus had the same problem--the splitter fading arm side instead of going down.
The slider was probably landing where he wanted, just low outside near the corner.

I think he was trying to get chases and starting ABs with breaking balls against a team that doesn't chase a lot.
I thought he should have been pounding the zone with the fastball--high, away, on the hands, etc...
Varland threw exactly the same way. He got ahead with the knuckle curve and finished ABs with the fastball.
Except, Varland was throwing strikes.
Maybe that was a team strategy.
scottt - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 01:07 PM EDT (#476806) #
If you accept that Varland is the high leverage reliever and not the guy who goes out there to get 3 run saves, Garcia is the only other guy I see in the role.

Rogers is a rubber arm who bridges to the late inning.
Fisher doesn't have enough experience and does a lot of early high leverage which is also good.
Fluharty is the main lefty.

uglyone - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 01:12 PM EDT (#476808) #
How many other good teams use a guy performing like Hoffman as the Closer?

Other teams seem to use their best guy as closer - and then also push them up for high leverage usage in 8th or 7th innings when needed.

I don’t even know that varland would thrive in the role - but seriously what other team keeps a guy who hS performed like Hoffman as their permanent closer?
scottt - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 01:21 PM EDT (#476809) #
Other teams?
Baltimore Ryan Helsley 
Boston Aroldis Chapman
NYY David Bednar
Tampa Bryan Baker

Helsley has been good. 5 save, 1 meltdown. 
Chapman too, 3 saves, 1 meltdown.
Bednar has 5 saves, but 3 meltdown and a 5.40 ERA.
Baker has 3 saves, 1 meltdown and a 4.26 ERA.
Hoffman has only 2 saves, 3 meltdown, a 4.32 ERA but leads the division in outing (9) and inning pitched 8.1.


scottt - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 01:22 PM EDT (#476810) #
In the AL East, all of them.
Nigel - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 01:27 PM EDT (#476811) #
To add to your point uo - the weird thing is that Hoffman has very little track record of being a good pitcher. He was excellent in 2024 and pretty good in 2023 (his numbers were propped up by a very low HR/FB%). Outside of that, he's been bad in his career. I think the only explanation is that the team believes in the Proven Closer approach (whether that's smart or not is irrelevant) and I think its fair to say that there isn't an obvious replacement on the roster. Varland has been excellent so far this year but his history suggests that he's prone to unusually hard contact and I'm not sure that that is the ideal profile for a Proven Closer.
scottt - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 01:34 PM EDT (#476812) #
AL central.

White Sox, Seranthony Dominguez 3 saves, 1 meltdown. ERA 3.12.
Cleveland Cade Smith, 3 saves, 2 meltdown. ERA 5.00
Detroit Kenley Jansen 3 saves, 1 meltdown ERA 2.45 
KC Lucas Erceg 5 saves, 1 meltdown ERA 2.70 but swinging strike percentage only 4.1%. K/9 only 5.4 
Twins committee of 3 guys. 

AL West
Athletics committee of 3 guys.
Houston committee of 3 guys.
Angels Jordan Romano  4 saves 1 meltdown ERA  5.40
Seattle Andes Munoz 1 save, 1 meltdown ERA 3.00
Texas 2 guys
scottt - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 01:39 PM EDT (#476813) #
The team believes in player having a defined role and being mentally and physically prepared to perform in that role.
GabrielSyme - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 01:39 PM EDT (#476814) #
A note of interest about Schneider's double last night - at 111.1, it was the hardest ball he's ever hit in the majors, by 1.8 mph, a pretty significant margin. He's never been a statcast darling, in part because his EVs have never been that impressive, but establishing a new upper bound is significant.
uglyone - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 01:46 PM EDT (#476815) #
not sure what you mean tbh, scott.

This year + Last Year:

Chapman: 67.1ip, 1.76li, 1.20era (28era-), 1.82fip (42fip-), 2.71xfip (64xfip-), 2.8fipwar, 3.7ra9war, 3.1awar65
Bednar: 69.1ip, 1.60li, 2.60era (62era-), 2.21fip (53fip-), 2.77xfip (67xfip-), 2.2fipwar, 1.8ra9war, 1.9awar65
Baker: 75.0ip, 1.23li, 4.08era (100era-), 3.88fip (93fip-), 3.03xfip (72xfip-), 0.6fipwar, 0.3ra9war, 0.4awar65
Helsley: 62.1ip, 1.54li, 4.33era (106era-), 3.94fip (97fip-), 3.70xfip (90xfip-), 0.4fipwar, 0.2ra9war, 0.3awar65
Hoffman: 76.1ip, 1.72li, 4.36era (107era-), 4.61fip (109fip-), 3.47xfip (83xfip-), -0.1fipwar, -0.2ra9war, -0.1awar65


1. Chapman and Bednar are in an entirely different league here, obviously.

2. Hoffman is worse than Baker and Helsley.

3. Helsley was one of the premier closers in baseball before imploding late last year. So far this year he's back to his previous dominant ways. If he falls back towards last year's outlier performance and the Orioles keep him as permanent closer, then i might see an argument. Although even then he at least has successful history as closer which Hoffman doesn't.

4. Baker is 6th in leverage of the rays' relievers. He's not at all a permanent closer or even their first choice closer. He's had 3 saves this year only because the rest of the bullpen and probably the 1st 2nd and 3rd closer choices have all imploded so far this year.
Gerry - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 01:47 PM EDT (#476816) #
Yesavage pitching now for Buffalo, just gave up a home run in each of the first and second innings.
uglyone - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 01:49 PM EDT (#476817) #
nice to hear, Gabriel. It looked scorched off the bat for sure. It was a 98.1mph heater up in the zone, but in the zone.

just an outlier for now, but possibly a sign that the ABS system might give him more confident swing decisions at high velo.
pooks137 - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 01:51 PM EDT (#476818) #

Commenters have speculated that Hoffman requires a Goldilocks level of usage to be at his best - not overused, but also not allowed to sit for a week at a time.

If Hoffman goes back into general circulation by losing the closer job, he's going to see his workload increase to pitching whenever his arm isn't falling off like Varland, Fisher, Rogers & Fluharty currently are.

The Jays rotation currently can't reliably make it through 5, they have no long man and they are embarking on a month's worth of consecutive games.

I shudder to think what "Jeff Hoffman, setup man" 's performance could deteriorate to without thd current kid gloves treatment he's already getting.

uglyone - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 01:58 PM EDT (#476821) #
looking at gameday velos for yesavage so far:

4-seam

93.9 ball
93.3 foul
93.3 ball
93.9 swinging strike
94.5 strike
93.6 homerun
94.5 foul
95.0 ball
92.5 single
93.2 strike
93.0 single
94.2 ball
93.6 strike
93.8 foul
94.0 ball
93.7 foul tip
92.8 strike
92.9 groundout
94.1 swinging strike
94.2 foul
93.6 ball
92.6 ball
93.6 flyout


doesn't look like his velo is there yet.


the second homerun came off an 86.3 slider that ended up middle-middle.
uglyone - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 01:59 PM EDT (#476822) #
pooks - so you want Hoffman to close because you feel you have to essentially hide him?
uglyone - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 02:01 PM EDT (#476823) #
p.s. Hoffman has the most appearances and most batters faced of any of our relievers so far.
greenfrog - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 02:15 PM EDT (#476825) #
Could be that Hoffman has "the look" of a closer (6'5", 235, throws pretty hard, has a breaking ball and split) and that's part of the reason the Blue Jays have him in the role.

If he were 5'10" and threw 93-94, he likely wouldn't get any consideration as a potential closer.
mathesond - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 02:22 PM EDT (#476829) #
Are there many 5'10 pitchers who throw under 95 with regular roles?
vw_fan17 - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 02:30 PM EDT (#476830) #
Thanks uglyone. That was my point - Hoffman has been "at best mediocre" for a year+. Sure, during last year's "run out of nowhere", keep going with what you had. But even then it was clear, he wasn't that reliable.

I just have zero confidence, much like Romano's last year here. He seems to be always "hoping" he'll be able to find the strike zone and that if he actually does get the pitch into the zone, it won't be a home run. Now sure, 96 mph+ and some stuff, it will work out some of the time. But it never seems to happen when you need it most, just randomly, based on luck-of-the-draw. And almost never against a good team.

He DOES seem to have a knack for only giving up the tying run, not the winning run, more often than than I'd expect, but that's pretty weak consolation..

Not sure if Varland is that guy either - he seemed to have a few issues with high leverage as well, and seems better at being the setup guy, although maybe that was overuse?

I would actually give Rogers a shot - he seems to at least be able to find the strike zone consistently, and more or less have a rubber arm. I don't have a great suggestion, just that I'm tired of "wow, we managed to come back and get a lead? Oh, (*&@#$, Hoffman's warming up.."
uglyone - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 02:32 PM EDT (#476831) #
They're letting Yesavage pitch into the 5th now, approaching 70 pitches.

He's doing pretty well but his fastball is now hovering around 91 only.
greenfrog - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 02:34 PM EDT (#476832) #
You can up the numbers a bit if you feel the need to quibble with the example.

Other AL East closers:

Chapman 6'4", 235, avg FB velo 97.2 in 2025
Bednar 6'1", 250, avg FB velo 97.1 in 2025
Baker 6'6", 235, avg FB velo 96.7 in 2025
Helsley 6'2", 235, avg FB velo 99.3 in 2025

Hoffman "looks" like those pitchers in terms of stature and velo, but without equivalent statistical results on the field.
Kelekin - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 02:46 PM EDT (#476835) #
I think match-up dependent closers is a completely fine modern approach.

There are some things to watch with Fisher this year. Good stat line, he's been dependable just like last year. But compared to last year, his extension is down 0.3 inches, his heater and cutter is down a tick, and curveball down two. Less spin rate and movement on all his pitches too. He's still getting results but it's something to watch.
pooks137 - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 02:59 PM EDT (#476836) #

That's interesting that Hoffman has seen so much work so far in an absolute nightmare of an opening month with few wins.

But looking at his Gamelogs, there's not much atypical usage.

He's only pitched on consecutive days twice. No outings longer than an inning. And no appearances before the 9th.

There was one questionable 4-run win Game Finishing appearance, which is probably the only quibble against Schneider.

The point still stands that Hoffman gets the predictability in the Proven Closer role that none of his other colleagues in the bullpen enjoy.

He does pitch almost exclusively at high leverage. But his workload is almost completely dependent on the team's performance & close and late situations.

He knows he will never get called upon before the 8th inning. So he can do his pregame rituals much like a starter would.

And he'll hardly ever/never be asked to pitch 3 games in a row even if the team goes on a run.

uglyone - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 03:08 PM EDT (#476837) #
well, for me, using a reliever as the closer because you think the closer role is easier than most other relief roles is probably wrong.
Glevin - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 04:48 PM EDT (#476839) #
Lukes leading off, Schneider on bench. I could barely understand it when facing a pitcher who throws 100 but this is just insane.
92-93 - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 04:54 PM EDT (#476840) #
To further that point, Sosa is starting. A guy who wasn’t good enough for the White Sox. Khakis gonna khaki.
Nigel - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 05:02 PM EDT (#476841) #
Tonight's lineup is a perfect example of "everything went right last year". Last year they would roll out a lineup like tonight that made very little sense yet it would look like genius by nights end more often then not. Maybe genius maybe luck - who knows. So far this year it hasn't gone that way very often. We'll see tonight.
uglyone - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 05:58 PM EDT (#476842) #

I like Valenzuela and see him as a solid backup option sometime soon (highly doubt he's starter material at any point), but imo Heineman really should be the main catcher while Kirk is injured.


Heineman last 2yrs at levels

MLB (2025-26): 194pa, 121wrc+, 7.7war650
AAA (2024-25): 206pa, 116wrc+

Projected: 84wrc+


Valenzuela

MLB (2025-26): 21pa, 36wrc+, 0.0war650
AAA (2025-26): 122pa, 79wrc+
AA (2024-25): 721pa, 105wrc+

Projected: 68wrc+
scottt - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 06:46 PM EDT (#476845) #
Closing is more mental, but you don't warm up 3 times because the starter gets in and out of jams.
scottt - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 06:49 PM EDT (#476846) #
Sosa has faced Patrick before and gone 0-4.

Frelick is 4-10 against Cease. Turang is 3-10.

The only good news tonight is that Gary Sanchez is catching.
Katie - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 06:52 PM EDT (#476848) #
I agree re: Heineman and Valuenza.

I think Valuenza will be a very solid backup catcher for the team, probably as soon as next year, but reading some other Jays message boards, they want to release Heineman when Kirk is healthy and keep Valuenza. Valuenza has more future than Heineman, but Heineman is producing more now and is a better backup for the present.

I will admit I didn't think much of the Valuenza trade at the time, but this is one of these small marginal moves that I think Atkins and this front office have become relatively good at. I didn't think much of trading Wagner, as limited as he was, for a defense-first catcher at Double-A, especially since he provided useful depth in case of injury in a contending year, but I have hardly thought about him since the trade and Valuenza has a good likelihood of being a useful backup catcher.
Katie - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 06:53 PM EDT (#476849) #
I remain unimpressed with the Sosa move, but hopefully I write a similar post in 2027.
Glevin - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 07:08 PM EDT (#476850) #
Heinemen has been worth 0.5 FWAR defensively despite costing the Jays two games almost by himself. Doesn't seem to really add up to me. I'd split time pretty evenly between him and Valuenzuela. Huge drop off from Kirk to either.
uglyone - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 07:48 PM EDT (#476853) #
wow a first inning lead. refreshing.
greenfrog - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 08:01 PM EDT (#476854) #
Good pitching by Cease in the first inning, helped out by some nice infield defense.

Hopefully Sanchez wasn’t too badly injured on that play in LF.
greenfrog - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 08:05 PM EDT (#476855) #
Gimenez could probably drop a bunt down the third base line for a hit against that defensive alignment.
Eephus - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 08:22 PM EDT (#476857) #
Just send Lukes down for a bit already. He ain’t helping anybody right now and clearly needs a reboot (90s cgi cartoon style).
Eephus - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 08:23 PM EDT (#476858) #
(They obviously won’t demote him unless he’s still putting up the OPS of a bad hitting pitcher by the end of April, methinks).
Glevin - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 09:18 PM EDT (#476859) #
Lenyn Sosa has the same number of hits for the Jays as Lukes does this year.
SK in NJ - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 09:21 PM EDT (#476860) #
I don't know what Davis Schneider's true talent level is, but I'm sort of hoping that he's traded for his own sake. Being benched for IKF in the playoffs, and now not being able to get a start at 2B against a RHP over Lenyn Sosa (who has historically stunk against RHP) is beyond any sort of scouting report.
Mike Green - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 09:28 PM EDT (#476861) #
Schneider ought to have been in the starting lineup somewhere tonight.  Hopefully, he gets a chance to play nearly every day beginning soon.  
greenfrog - Wednesday, April 15 2026 @ 09:34 PM EDT (#476862) #
You’re probably right, Mike, but Lukes did just make a nice catch in a key situation (deep line drive to RF with one out and one on in the seventh inning of a 1-0 game).
Michael - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 04:18 AM EDT (#476863) #
Well one way to avoid the closer question is blow the lead in the 8th. But a 2-1 loss is much more on the offense than the defense. But yeah, Heineman and Schneider should be playing more.
scottt - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 06:23 AM EDT (#476864) #
Rogers is great against sluggers, but contact hitters who just want to put the ball on the ground and run might not be his window.
Varland in the 8th and Rogers in the 9th would have worked better.

Also, Flu is best used against guys who are high in the lineup otherwise you'll see pinch hitters.
Then, he's facing 2 or 3 right bats and you might be loading the bases for the top of the lineup.

It's clearly roles over strategy.
Glevin - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 06:56 AM EDT (#476865) #
Jays tied for league lead in unearned runs allowed. Backup catchers have helped cost the Jays three games already. Kirk really is team MVP. In the end though you can't score one run and expect to win and this lineup is really pathetic right now. Jays need Springer and Barger back ASAP.
Ryan Day - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 09:14 AM EDT (#476866) #
Can't blame Schneider for going to Rogers in a tough game, but why pull Fisher after 5 pitches? He probably could have faced another 2-3 batters. Don't pull pitchers unnecessarily; the next guy can always be worse.

Of course, reliever usage is just shuffling deck chairs with the offence currently demanding the pitching be absolutely flawless.
uglyone - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 10:55 AM EDT (#476869) #
jays have actually been average offensively overall (98wrc+) so far, but are sabotaging themselves with a 77wrc+ wRISP, good for 29th.

the poor royals are somehow only hitting for a 36wrc+ wRISP.
uglyone - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 11:03 AM EDT (#476871) #
wouldn't mind just trying to ride hot hands just to see what happens.

2B Schneider 31pa, 142wrc+
CF Varsho 67pa, 132wrc+
1B Guerrero 74pa, 157wrc+
LF Sanchez 57pa, 119wrc+
RF Straw 18pa, 133wrc+
SS Gimenez 67pa, 123wrc+
C Heineman 20pa, 121wrc+
DH Jimenez 8pa, 101wrc+
3B Clement 71pa, 85wrc+
lexomatic - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 11:08 AM EDT (#476872) #
Wanted to comment after the game but wasnt able to load the site until this morning... so maybe 12 hours. Anybody else?
The 5 pitch pull is a typical over managing from Schneider/ mgmt. It doesnt really matter though until a loss.
Like everyone says gotta hit more.
uglyone - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 12:09 PM EDT (#476873) #
today's actual lineup:

LF Schneider
CF Varsho
DH Guerrero
RF Sanchez
2B Sosa
1B Okamoto
SS Gimenez
3B Clement
C Heineman


close!
Nigel - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 12:18 PM EDT (#476874) #
In 2025 the Jays were 2nd (behind the Dodgers) in hitting with RISP with an OPS+ of 117. That was juiced by the highest in MLB (by a fairly significant amount) BABIP with RISP at .329. There's a fairly significant element of good and bad luck involved in the 2025 v 2026 comparative offenses.
uglyone - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 12:25 PM EDT (#476875) #
I dunno, jays seemed elite offensively last year no matter the situation.


Overall: 112wrc+ (#4)

Based Empty: 110wrc+ (#4)
Runners On: 116wrc+ (#3)
With RISP: 122wrc+ (#2)

Low Leverage: 114wrc+ (#3)
Med Leverage: 111wrc+ (#5)
High Leverage: 110wrc+ (#4)
uglyone - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 12:27 PM EDT (#476876) #

Arden Zwelling
@ArdenZwelling
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George Springer (toe) has resumed swinging in the visitors batting cages in Milwaukee; taking flips and hitting off a tee for now.

Running will be his biggest test. But it’s possible Springer’s ready to be activated from IL around beginning of Blue Jays homestand next Friday.
uglyone - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 12:30 PM EDT (#476877) #
Jays this year:

Overall: 98wrc+ (#17)

Bases Empty: 87wrc+ (#19)
Runners On: 113wrc+ (#16)
With RISP: 77wrc+ (#29)

Nigel - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 12:32 PM EDT (#476878) #
They were a good offensive team last year - that wasn't really my point. The team BABIP for the year was .299 (a little above average) but their BABIP with RISP was unusually high. They were very good but also had some luck.
uglyone - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 12:36 PM EDT (#476879) #
Arden Zwelling
@ArdenZwelling
John Schneider said Springer was swinging aggressively and that if he can face adequate velocity against machines it’s possible he doesn’t require a rehab assignment.

“It looked pretty normal, which is good. He’s feeing better,” Schneider said. “The swing looked like George.”
uglyone - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 12:37 PM EDT (#476880) #
a little high maybe, but babip is one of the things that goes up with runners on and with runners in scoring position, as the defense can't position itself solely based on the hitter's batting profile.
uglyone - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 01:16 PM EDT (#476883) #
plausible best lineups...

Using past 1 Calendar Year:

1. DH Springer 592pa, 156wrc+, 4.9war650
2. LF Schneider 237pa, 136wrc+, 4.7war650
3. 1B Guerrero 679pa, 144wrc+, 4.3war650
4. CF Varsho 338pa, 125wrc+, 5.2war650
5. C Alejandro 479pa, 117wrc+, 6.2war650
6. 3B Barger 525pa, 102wrc+, 2.5war650
7. 2B Sosa 533pa, 101wrc+, 1.6war650
8. RF Sanchez 554pa, 96wrc+, 1.5war650
9. SS Clement 613pa, 100wrc+, 3.4war650

B. UT Lukes 443pa, 95wrc+, 2.1war650
B. OF Straw 288pa, 85wrc+, 3.2war650
B. IF Gimenez 364pa, 71wrc+, 2.1war650
B. C Heineman 171pa, 106wrc+, 6.1war650

X. UT Jimenez 8pa, 101wrc+, 0.0war650
X. OF Santander 146pa, 60wrc+, -2.7war650
X. IF Okamoto 68pa, 81wrc+, 0.0war650
X. C Valenzuela 24pa, 43wrc+, 2.7war650



Using Fangraphs Combined Projections:

1. DH Springer 470pa, 116wrc+, 2.2war650
2. LF Sanchez 382pa, 106wrc+, 2.0war650
3. 1B Guerrero 608pa, 147wrc+, 4.6war650
4. RF Barger 357pa, 104wrc+, 2.0war650
5. C Alejandro 317pa, 115wrc+, 6.2war650
6. CF Varsho 533pa, 102wrc+, 2.9war650
7. 3B Okamoto 508pa, 112wrc+, 2.9war650
8. SS Gimenez 545pa, 97wrc+, 3.3war650
9. 2B Schneider 263pa, 108wrc+, 3.0war650

B. UT Lukes 332pa, 100wrc+, 2.2war650
B. OF Straw 163pa, 74wrc+, 0.8war650
B. IF Clement 558pa, 96wrc+, 2.7war650
B. C Heineman 166pa, 84wrc+, 3.1war650

X. UT Jimenez 56pa, 92wrc+, 0.0war650
X. OF Santander 25pa, 102wrc+, 0.0war650
X. IF Sosa 138pa, 89wrc+, 0.5war650
X. C Valenzuela 109pa, 68wrc+, 1.8war650

uglyone - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 02:57 PM EDT (#476886) #
1st pitch double play not what we needed there, vladdy.
uglyone - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 03:07 PM EDT (#476887) #
manager searching for ways to lose now.
Nigel - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 03:17 PM EDT (#476888) #
There have to be some nervous people in the front office watching Okamoto. It's still early but he really doesn't look good at the plate or in the field.
uglyone - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 03:28 PM EDT (#476889) #
baseball used to be fun.
SK in NJ - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 03:36 PM EDT (#476890) #
Without Kirk (who might be the most important player on the team), Springer, and Barger, there really isn't a lineup the Jays could put out there that looks any good, especially with the way Okamoto is looking (he was a wild card coming into the season). It's too early to get worried about Kazuma, but if the Jays are wrong about him, then it's going to be a massive issue. They really need him to reach his pre-season projections offensively.
Glevin - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 03:46 PM EDT (#476891) #
So many winnable games if anyone could hit at all. Really painful. Getting Springer and Barger back would be a big help but guys here now have to hit too.
uglyone - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 03:47 PM EDT (#476892) #
I mean anyone not reaching their preseason projections is bad, but you hope that as many do better as do worse.

if Okamoto ends up on the bench with Barger or Clement starting at 3B and more playing time for Schneider or Sanchez or Lukes so be it.
greenfrog - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 03:53 PM EDT (#476893) #
Last chance to salvage an otherwise horrible two games.

At least Corbin had a strong start. He could be a useful pickup for the Blue Jays. He says that he’s healthy and feeling good.
Nigel - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 03:58 PM EDT (#476894) #
The team feels very 2024ish right now.
uglyone - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 04:18 PM EDT (#476896) #
was hoping things would get better, but we get the two most painful losses of the year instead.
Glevin - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 05:00 PM EDT (#476897) #
Really hard to see how this team is going to win games for the foreseeable future. Nothing really Schenider can do except shuffle and hope something hits.
christaylor - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 05:22 PM EDT (#476899) #
They are only 4 back in the loss column! They can still win this thing!
dalimon5 - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 06:36 PM EDT (#476901) #
The last 4 posts here at batters box are a perfect summary of my emotion and this team right now:

"The team feels very 2024ish right now. was hoping things would get better, but we get the two most painful losses of the year instead. Really hard to see how this team is going to win games for the foreseeable future. Nothing really Schenider can do except shuffle and hope something hits. They are only 4 back in the loss column! They can still win this thing!"

Maybe now more than ever the FO needs to make a bigger move that they otherwise would have made at the deadline. There's always a way to make an early splash...it's just going to cost you more.

greenfrog - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 06:48 PM EDT (#476902) #
I think the team has to ride this out and see what happens. Maybe they'll turn it around, maybe not. Big trades are rare this time of year. Teams generally want to wait to see what they have before making radical changes to their roster.

It's still so early.

Tucker: .239/.350/.343

Bo: .228/.271/.304

Marte: .211/.273/.408

Brendan Donovan (.294/.431/.529) sure would have helped, but the other big names that were talked about last off-season wouldn't have helped the Blue Jays much in the early going.

If he team just plays up to their potential and gets healthy (apart from Ponce), they should be able to compete.
greenfrog - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 07:37 PM EDT (#476904) #
The Yankees and Max Fried lost 11-4 to the Angels today. Baltimore is losing 3-0 to the Guardians in the 6th inning.

The Rays beat the White Sox today and are 11-7. The rest of the division is around .500 (just above, at, or a few games below).

April baseball.
TamRa - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 07:43 PM EDT (#476905) #
The next two games could set up an interesting decision next time through. Corbin did well enough to start on Wednesday when his turn comes up again (assuming Yesavage starts next Tuesday)But technically lauer could go on 4 days rest that day. If Corbin starts then they are off on Thursday and they have the option to skip either Lauer or Scherzer if either/both don't look good over the next two days. Doesn't seem like they would want Gaus and Cease to go on 6 days rest again so soon.
Michael - Thursday, April 16 2026 @ 09:41 PM EDT (#476907) #
Yeah, the season feels sad so far however they've had some really nice pitching and have some starters coming back soon and aren't that far out of it.

If Springer comes back and Barger comes back and both hits that could be a real boost and then Kirk comes back in about a month or so (hopefully). And while Okamoto looks not that great, Gimenez and Varsho are all performing well; Straw and Schneider well in limited usage.
GabrielSyme - Friday, April 17 2026 @ 11:58 AM EDT (#476914) #
The nice thing about Okamoto is that the only problem offensively I can see is contact. That's obviously a big problem, but at least it's not complex. His launch angles, hard-hit rate, swing decisions, everything else looks at least average or good. Obviously the hope is that this is more an adjustment issue than a more fundamental problem.
dalimon5 - Friday, April 17 2026 @ 01:11 PM EDT (#476915) #
I remain confident with Okamoto. He will be top 3 hitter on the team by season's end.

Vlad being outhit by Heineman his last 120 ABs or so is a big issue and it's not his fault. Get the man some protection.
June Northey - Friday, April 17 2026 @ 07:44 PM EDT (#476917) #
I'd probably skip Scherzer to give him arm a full shot to heal up. He hasn't been effective so giving him extra time off might be a good idea. 4 1/3 IP over his last 2 starts with 10 ER allowed 3 BB 5 SO 7 H 3 HR. Very ineffective. Giving his arm a break might be smart.
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